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Tivoli Gardens Documentary - Hard Road To Travel - Public Housing in Jamaica 

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This a documentary made in the late 1960s perhaps by a fledgeling Jamaica Information Service (JIS). The film chronicles the history of the Tivoli Gardens public housing development. Edward Seaga the member of parliament for the constituency was a young sociologist who formulated a plan to develop the area that was once called Back-O-Wall. The area was the location of the city dump and a sprawling shanty town that was a breeding ground for crime.

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@chrisper94
@chrisper94 2 года назад
Although this experiment devolved into a political garrison and a new "back a wall", I will give Mr. Seaga credit for dreaming of a better society. I am sure that some of the people of Tivoli have used the experiment to lift themselves out of poverty and into a better life. We must all continue to dream.
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica 2 года назад
Well said👏🏽
@carlenewilliams5467
@carlenewilliams5467 11 месяцев назад
Many doctors lawyers footballers come from right there I know my cousins are doctors dentist nurse ❤just the crime amd voilence destroy down deh
@winstonkeen7402
@winstonkeen7402 6 месяцев назад
How did this place turn out to be the mother of all garrisons ?
@pure1239
@pure1239 5 месяцев назад
​@@winstonkeen7402becsuse that was the original intention . Look at the place now.
@Bluntburnatr888
@Bluntburnatr888 4 месяца назад
@@winstonkeen7402ask again😂😂
@annettashannon8077
@annettashannon8077 Год назад
This documentary brought tears to my eyes. True community development and nation building. What a visionary Mr. Seaga was! I have new found respect for him. ONE LOVE🇯🇲
@joli8166
@joli8166 Год назад
Oh don't leave out the part where he installed dons to force the community to vote for him and ship in guns, he built and destroyed it.
@realdalgayle8004
@realdalgayle8004 10 месяцев назад
​@@joli8166 Interesting to say the least. I've always disliked Seaga, and thought he was just a puppet of the United States.i watched most of this documentary, and was about to comment on this great endeavor he undertook with tivale gardens,then I came across your comment, and I'm reminded of the reasons I never liked or trusted this man.this guy has a very big hand in crime ridden Jamaica 🇯🇲 that exist today.no doubt about that.
@deidradahl2802
@deidradahl2802 10 месяцев назад
@@realdalgayle8004 --True the USA helped him to undermined the Manley government because Maley wanted an equal life for Jamaicans. In 1980 over twenty cases of guns went missing from a ship in the middle of the ocean, used to kill hundreds of Jamaicans. The Eventide Home with than 100 old people were padlocked from the outside and set alight using petroleum jelly found only with the CIA, to blame the PNP government. Seaga built up HIS community, but Manley wanted that for the whole country. In 1976 the National housing Trust was instituted, , which housed thousands of Jamaica's poor. Tivoli gardens residents got their houses actually free, and was paying only about Ja$15 monthly, while others had to pay thousands. But it came with a price, the Dons rules Tivoli to this day
@robertcamble3543
@robertcamble3543 8 месяцев назад
Seaga also played a role in Jamaica music . He started w.i.r.l which turned to Dynamic Sounds after a fire . Late 50s . Then went into politics .
@deidradahl2802
@deidradahl2802 8 месяцев назад
@@robertcamble3543 That is for those who likes Reggae. The whole country NEEDED housing, medical care and jobs, to say the least
@4evahodlingdoge226
@4evahodlingdoge226 10 месяцев назад
Everybody dressed decently, well groomed and no false hair back in those days, can we please bring this style back.
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica 10 месяцев назад
There is no going back… but going forward we should love ourselves a lot more🙏
@Thatgirlbreee
@Thatgirlbreee 7 месяцев назад
Hair extensions and wigs have existed since ancient Egyptian days. It’s hilarious how people actually think these things all popped up recently 🤣
@paulhenry2859
@paulhenry2859 Год назад
I remember those days when I was little boy from denham town I use to love and visit my cousins and friends in tivoli and love going to the library and then after watching the drum corp practicing when Paul Dushing was the drum major
@andrenefinn704
@andrenefinn704 Год назад
Where in Denham Town? I lived in a Tenament Yard on Wellington Street. I too Loved to visit Tivoli. I remember visiting the Center where they held various activities.
@paulhenry2859
@paulhenry2859 Год назад
@@andrenefinn704 Dumfries street at the corner of wellington Street next door denham town centre
@andrenefinn704
@andrenefinn704 Год назад
@@paulhenry2859 OMG, I knew a childhood friend named Paul. Have an awesome day!!
@paulhenry2859
@paulhenry2859 Год назад
@@andrenefinn704 it might be me lol or my cousin Paul from Wellington street he lives in the big yard on wellington Street
@djgenius626
@djgenius626 Год назад
Sounds awesome
@monickporter262
@monickporter262 Год назад
An amazing initiative to restore hope in individuals needing to experience a different kind of life has now returned to what it was prior. I will continue to pray to see a transformation in this historical community 😢🙏🏾
@xinephoenix1688
@xinephoenix1688 11 месяцев назад
The man was a visionary. Respect
@pure1239
@pure1239 6 месяцев назад
Sure he was a visionary for building the gunman factory . The people got tricked Most people living there are unable to read or write . Hard drugs has taken over the place and dont even mention them murdering themselves and others everyday.
@jessiey31wayne90
@jessiey31wayne90 Год назад
Very impressive I didn't know all this, the leaders then did well and truly we can see that
@mcx1991
@mcx1991 Год назад
When "Back a wall" was transformed into Tivoli Garden the only thing it didn't have was a fire station. it was a good initiative, however we all see how it turn out....
@mikerobinson549
@mikerobinson549 2 месяца назад
I see decency and respect in this. I may have been around too. I was born at jubilee hospital in Denham Town. This is my born ground
@andrewsergent574
@andrewsergent574 10 месяцев назад
To God be the Glory great things He has done. Greatness is a Humanitarian bread. Jamaica the Land we love, thanks Mr Seaga and the ones who make it possible.
@buttyscott1
@buttyscott1 10 месяцев назад
The last time Seaga toured Tivoli, he said he wished he could tear it down ..Now the mother of all garrison
@andreamayhew1504
@andreamayhew1504 7 месяцев назад
I really enjoyed watching this video, it gave me a lot of insight into the history of Kingston and politics around that time.
@megao28
@megao28 6 месяцев назад
This documentary will help bring love and great change towards peace and honor to the beautiful land of Jamaica 🇯🇲 🙏🏾 ❤️ ✨️ I am a seed of greatness, and Tivoli's beauty will rebirth. "The rose that grew from concrete." IamOmegasWill ❤
@philliplyn2692
@philliplyn2692 Год назад
Loving this one thanks for sharing very information blessed love to all knowledge is power hopefully everyone pays attention keep up the good work 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica Год назад
Bless 🙏
@roxannebryan7456
@roxannebryan7456 8 месяцев назад
The politicians today should take a page from his book!
@devertonpasley4942
@devertonpasley4942 7 месяцев назад
As to what respects? Can you specify?
@fleurettemvangulden7883
@fleurettemvangulden7883 Месяц назад
@@devertonpasley4942To maintain the environment and people as aspired by Seaga
@richardporter154
@richardporter154 Год назад
I remember growing up hearing about Tivoli Gardens and imagined this place being like the wild Wild West. The very first time I walked through the community after becoming a student at Tivoli Gardens Comprehensive I couldn’t believe my eyes,was this the place that people feared, that upon entering would be instant torture and death. I walked through that community five days a week, I ate at PWD,I had lunch in the community and not once did I have any need to worry or fear. Now is a total different time, the area is plagued with violence and truly lives up to it’s moniker “Mother of all garrisons”.
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica Год назад
History lesson…BTW, PWD is no more, those were the days🙂
@chantalwright9772
@chantalwright9772 8 месяцев назад
I saw a video of someone touring Tivoli Gardens recently and was shocked because it was not what I had formed in my mind from what I heard. This is why it is always good to check things out for ourselves because people will lead us astray with their bias opinions.
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica 7 месяцев назад
Jamaica can be dangerous… Tivoli has gotten some bad press but there are many marginal communities in Jamaica are very similar.
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica 7 месяцев назад
@nevinreid311 😂😂😂
@jamdum2290
@jamdum2290 7 месяцев назад
Same, I used to attend Denham town secondary. I was a part of the track and netball team, used to trained at Tivoli high school play ground..Sometimes I am alone at the bus stop waiting on the Spanish town bus after training with no fear. How does time change 😢
@PamelaDacas-ds8lz
@PamelaDacas-ds8lz Месяц назад
Wow! this is what was needed for all communities in Jamaica that surely would have given the great majority of people a chance. Instead a lot of them were forced to leave Jamaica to look for a new life abroad to find work. In so doing a lot of them experienced poor housing and general institutional racism for years. They would have been better off in a community like this documentary shows in their own country of Jamaica. Tivoli gardens back then was a thriving community and the vision for it was on point. Corruption today has prevented a lot of Jamaicans in poor communities from experiencing this kind of development. Even Britain could have learnt from such a vision back in those days, a third world country that achieved this. Wish I was brought up in such an environment that I could have thrived in that way. All benefitted from babies to pensioners. A true utopia society. I found the documentary extremely encouraging. I’ve never known a prime minister in my life time to have done this. These documentaries should be shown in schools to show parents and children how a thriving environment impacts their future.
@ashebermulugata9
@ashebermulugata9 8 месяцев назад
As much as I am opposed to the politics of Mr. Seaga I admired the development of " bakka wall" into the Community of TG. Sad to see it evolved into the garrison of garrisons.
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica 8 месяцев назад
Not many can be as honest as you 👏🏽
@oneK_876_31
@oneK_876_31 8 месяцев назад
You must be mindful of the role of propaganda and how it specifically impacted Mr. Seaga. How much of what we have learnt to accept about Mr. Seaga is true? How much is propaganda?
@deuangerman
@deuangerman 3 месяца назад
Were you a PNP man?
@carlenewilliams5467
@carlenewilliams5467 11 месяцев назад
Big up to west kg born and part grow seaga was about education amd improvement in his division,born right kph live right beside Denham tow station my mada move to Oxford Street I love my growing up there but that 70s election did a toll in west kg,am really happy my mom was one othe smart parents back then who took us away from the crime and voilence, 😢it was too much nah forget weh me come from.thank you for this reminiscing ❤if politics didn't step in oxford st would've look like tivoli gardens that was his plan and the next party won and that idea was shelve😢in the 80's they did build a couple buildings in rema and surroundings Though seaga was well love by tg that is why he never lose that seat ever.
@deidradahl2802
@deidradahl2802 8 месяцев назад
When a government is in charge of a nation, they must run that country for all the people, not just their own constituencies. Edward Seaga did well for his communities, but remember it backfired when the Dons started to disrespect him. He named the dons on national tv, for the soldiers to arrest I do not remember the details in full
@nyakwarObat
@nyakwarObat 8 месяцев назад
Gullible folk missed their was a hidden agenda and still haven't figured it out yet. Unbelievable
@soniadrummond2169
@soniadrummond2169 5 месяцев назад
People looked fine natural beauty, it is sad i can see big from then to know, please bring back that first Lovex
@nerdknowledgeunlimited6023
@nerdknowledgeunlimited6023 6 месяцев назад
Exactly what I should've added in my post. If the party that took over in 1972 had followed suit. Jamaica would be a first world country today.
@DwayneBryan
@DwayneBryan Год назад
I'm 10 mins in this flim and I'm very confused how this concept didn't work out for Tiloli Garden! Because this idea is gold! What happened!?
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica Год назад
You have a valid question, however, I am not going to attempt an answer.😀 Some research into the politics of time and the urban blight in Kingston should shed some light. Thanks for watching and for the comment/ question. Perhaps if you watch the whole thing you might get some insights.
@DwayneBryan
@DwayneBryan Год назад
@@TheRealJamaica lol I watched the entire thing. I take it u get this question alot hence ur hesitation to answer.
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica Год назад
Yes, I get that question sometimes but that’s not the reason why I’m not answering. The answer may not be to the liking of everyone so I leave it to you to do some research and figure it out😀
@DwayneBryan
@DwayneBryan Год назад
@@TheRealJamaica gotcha. I would like to hear your point of view though if that's okay
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica Год назад
This video is about Seaga’s arch rival’s constituency. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--oFD32uCknk.html Bear in mind that public housing in Jamaica is usually linked to political loyalty, at least in the 20th century. That is the real problem.
@Iriequeen621
@Iriequeen621 14 дней назад
Boi dem days were good I can recall the free zone that was created for job creation Seaga wanted betterment for the people of the country
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica 11 дней назад
@@Iriequeen621 Tru dat
@michaelcousinsjr.5760
@michaelcousinsjr.5760 10 месяцев назад
This is the same method used in the United States...every ghetto was once a shining new "housing projects "
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica 10 месяцев назад
There is a lot of truth to that, but remember that was the model for public housing at the time. The model has proven to be unsustainable. We can’t blame Seaga for that, my feeling is that he was following the paradigm of the period. If you watch my public housing video on McIntire Villa the architect said Manley had a different view of public housing which involved low rise rather than multi story dwellings. Both McIntire Villa and the owner occupied bungalows in Tivoli have been well maintained to this day.
@nyakwarObat
@nyakwarObat 8 месяцев назад
@therealjamaica..No disrespect but you sound gullible. You seem adamant in Championing seaga. So easily bought with a bit of money and shiny things even now. This was just a new system of slavery masquerading as redemption and seaga was the guy appointed to administer the proceedings. Do not be naive
@oneilclarke8494
@oneilclarke8494 Год назад
The plan is legendary but over time, the evolution of that community became a disaster.
@nyakwarObat
@nyakwarObat 8 месяцев назад
Because there was a hidden agenda. Simple really
@stacyvibes2749
@stacyvibes2749 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for this great piece of history. Sadly anytime something is an "experiment" or a "project" created for poor black people, it's usually becomes a problem, why? Well because it starts off like a well oiled machine, being cultivated and cared for by it's donors and inhabitants. Until something goes wrong and the people get depressed and anxious and the donors disappear, then the machine gets rusty and can't move anymore and everyone suffers.
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica 9 месяцев назад
Wow..profound
@sismaryofbethany3854
@sismaryofbethany3854 7 месяцев назад
The curses we are under. Read Deuteronomy 28. We are the chosen children of God, who strayed from his laws and are blinded to who we are and that our God requires our obedience. So we get the curses v 15-68 instead of the blessings v 1-14. Nothing will work for us except complete obedience to the God of Israel.
@user-tc2fc4pm6o
@user-tc2fc4pm6o 6 месяцев назад
And then after all this tivoli gardans turn out bad and in to a ghetto under the watchful eve of bruse golding smh look how beautiful Tivoli garden was back then
@pamelacampbell7314
@pamelacampbell7314 7 месяцев назад
Wow wow so it can be done Jamaica can be uplifted
@soniadrummond2169
@soniadrummond2169 4 месяца назад
Beautiful video, please bring back ❤ that first Love
@londonbowcat1
@londonbowcat1 5 дней назад
8:00 urban renewal is negro removal ? Raising attainment through the maternity centre then the day care centre. 3 months to 3 years. Transfer to infant school with playgrounds and meals. Age 6 is primary school across the road giving them a grounding whilst developing curiosity towards life. Age 12 is comprehensive school . Academic vocational etc then specialized at 15. Arts and crafts Home Economics Vocational training or other programmers Supplemented by community centre . Business learning work and play.
@Iriequeen621
@Iriequeen621 14 дней назад
Omg where did all that vision went mighty God Mr seaga did a marvelous work in developing that community look how much amenities were created for the community. If Jamaica had stayed on that path we would’ve been so industrious, but a the same ppl dem mash up the community
@MITVIZ
@MITVIZ 10 месяцев назад
Jamaica was really on the right path
@mamajenskitchen1880
@mamajenskitchen1880 Год назад
And hopefully none of those youngsters end up as gunmen and waste their life’s all in the name of loyalty to politics and greediness 😢
@Ranksbanks248
@Ranksbanks248 8 месяцев назад
This is a very true story.
@stacychin6008
@stacychin6008 4 месяца назад
God is love ❤️ love my people one love ❤️
@jessiey31wayne90
@jessiey31wayne90 Год назад
I see the current pm holness trying but not hard enough!.today I saw pics of a social housing beneficiary who was crying and I was moved,I do hope his initiatives can reach thousands more!
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica Год назад
Public housing is a tricky issue, there is the question of who should benefit and when. There is no question that Jamaica has a housing crisis. More people would be served, however, if government were to provide land and infrastructure instead of trying to construct finished houses for a few. There is a long forgotten tradition in Jamaica of community members cooperating to build homes for each other. In addition to serving far more people with the available resources, a community self help approach would build cohesion and a sense of responsibility. Both of which are sorely needed. Thanks so much for commenting.
@jessiey31wayne90
@jessiey31wayne90 Год назад
@@TheRealJamaica valid point indeed and I do agree with you!
@courtneymark7948
@courtneymark7948 5 месяцев назад
How was it funded. Looks like a great deal of money.
@jamdum2290
@jamdum2290 7 месяцев назад
Papa Eddie. The man wasn't for no handout. He created vision and jobs for his people. RIP
@lifeisgood8640
@lifeisgood8640 5 месяцев назад
Love this vedio everyone innocent
@kingjbo680
@kingjbo680 Год назад
This is fascinating. I guess 1972 had something to do with what happened there after.
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica Год назад
I think so too🤔
@fleurettemvangulden7883
@fleurettemvangulden7883 Месяц назад
Opposition fuc*d it up to tear down one man and destroy the constituency who would loyally vote JLP
@shawnrichards1393
@shawnrichards1393 9 месяцев назад
This was one member of parliament who spent taxpayer money on the people and not only himself
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica 9 месяцев назад
Seaga was never accused of enriching himself, current politicians did not learn that lesson
@marciarobinson8200
@marciarobinson8200 Год назад
The word of God says the poor will be poorer and the rich shall be richer still
@Shonieedits
@Shonieedits Год назад
Now i see and know for sure andrew is the worst prime minister thus far
@djgenius626
@djgenius626 Год назад
When Jamaica was nice
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica Год назад
Less violence but more poverty…go figure 😂
@4evahodlingdoge226
@4evahodlingdoge226 10 месяцев назад
@@TheRealJamaica Shows you that poverty isn't the only cause of crime and violence.
@adriiko
@adriiko Год назад
This is shocking to watch knowing what Tivoli Gardens is now. How did it go from such a promising new development to one of the most precarious areas of the city ?
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica Год назад
To be clear, this is propaganda film that was produced by the government of the day which developed Tivoli Gardens. It is worthwhile researching the history of the place. I will say no more.😉
@andrenefinn704
@andrenefinn704 Год назад
No Where throughout the world is the same. I moved from Kingston in 1981; I migrated to Washington DC. Once known as " Chocolate City and The Murder Capital" in the 80s. DC is now 50 percent White people; Homes in DC now value 1 Million or more. However, once again, the rise of violence resulting in Murders has started. Every day something is going on.
@Grogu-485
@Grogu-485 Год назад
Bad minded PNP happened that is the downfall of Tivoli
@JustisHype
@JustisHype Год назад
@@Grogu-485 😂😂 People die from lack of knowledge
@Rasheens-Story
@Rasheens-Story Год назад
They got the most help and didn't take care of it
@fleurettemvangulden7883
@fleurettemvangulden7883 Месяц назад
So it seems the opposition party influenced the political arena that brought this into a shootout alley in the late 70’s and 80’s. Seaga brought hope and advancement to the dirt poor and the future of their children.
@AngeliaMcfarlane-rf4yq
@AngeliaMcfarlane-rf4yq 8 месяцев назад
HELL on earth I use to spend holidays there with my aunt she was the spiritual mother for Eddie Seaga at Ebenezer Zionist church and one of the first tenant who moved in on Keith Avenue
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica 8 месяцев назад
What does “hell on earth” mean?
@islandsurveyor
@islandsurveyor 3 месяца назад
Before being named Jamaica Information Service it was called API. I can't recall what those initials meant
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica 3 месяца назад
Actually it was originally JIS then the PNP changed it to API (Agency for Public Information) and Seaga promptly changed it back to JIS in 1980 when he came to power.😂😂😂
@CurtisCT
@CurtisCT 20 дней назад
Wow, everybody under HEAVY manners! But what happened? How did we get from that wonderful utopia back then to where we are now?
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica 18 дней назад
@@CurtisCT Sorry… Jamaica was never Utopia. Don’t be fooled by the video
@CurtisCT
@CurtisCT 18 дней назад
@@TheRealJamaica I agree, but that Tivoli Gardens project looks remarkably similar to the various social housing projects built in countries like Sweden, Germany and Russia in the 50's and 60's. It was the exact same concept and produced the exact same results with smiling, well-behaved and well-looked after citizens featured in similar (propaganda) documentaries.
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica 18 дней назад
@@CurtisCT The US projects turned out differently. I strongly suspect that Tivoli Gardens was based on the projects
@CurtisCT
@CurtisCT 18 дней назад
@@TheRealJamaica Maybe, but that still doesn't explain what happened and how it became so run-down. Was it a matter of neglect? Lack of funds? How did Tivoli devolve into a sovereign ghetto?
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica 16 дней назад
@@CurtisCT The bungalows are owner occupied and well maintained. The high rises are tenant occupied and are in very poor condition. The government is the landlord.
@jmartin4204
@jmartin4204 9 месяцев назад
what year was this documentary made I am guessing the late sixties early seventies but exactly when in that time . Great channel this is and a great documentary . Many I know did not like Seaga said the worse PM Jamaica ever had but I liked him and I could vote in Jamaica JLP all the way , and hope they win the next elections .
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica 9 месяцев назад
Thanks @jmartin4204. I found this documentary in my archives, it was given to me about 20 years ago for use in a UWI production about public housing in Jamaica. I assume it was a JIS production and was most likely done in the late 60s. I am not sure about the exact production date. Seaga was a visionary but not without controversy, I had the honor of working for him in a professional capacity for about a year, he was an interesting and erudite man.
@jmartin4204
@jmartin4204 9 месяцев назад
@@TheRealJamaica Thank you for this , this was Tivoli Gardens in its hey day sadly in recent decades not like this anymore . It was a beautiful layout , I was around in that time I was older would live there . I passed through Tivoli Gardens over the on visit to Jamaica from the UK sadly its hey day was gone . What did PM Seaga make of his once flourishing project going into decline over the years and did he know Christopher Coke .
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica 9 месяцев назад
@@jmartin4204 I can’t say what his thoughts were, however, when I filmed him touring the area one Christmas he knew many people by name. That was remarkable!
@Sayiiddawa
@Sayiiddawa 3 месяца назад
One of the toughest political garrisons
@rylisland
@rylisland 2 года назад
Good history lesson. It would be interesting to see what has transpired over the years from this documentary and see what it’s like now. Was the experiment sustained.
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica 2 года назад
That would be interesting rylisland. As you may be aware the Tivoli experiment was not without controversy. A comprehensive look at Western Kingston a half century later would be instructive.
@davidscott3726
@davidscott3726 2 года назад
Noooo,became the mother garrison
@Josh-wf7de
@Josh-wf7de Год назад
The experiment worked. The turning point was when the USA got involved in Jamaicans politics and wanted a particular leader to win. To do so they facilitated the import of gun and then came dons. That election was the bloodiest in jamaica's history. We are still baring the harsh fruit of that political involvement. The US saw a communist tendency. Weather that was so or not they decided to nip it at the bud....Jamaica has never been the same and Tivoli is the largest garrison in Jamaica
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica Год назад
@@Josh-wf7de There is an interesting study/book (can’t recall the name) that looked at gun violence in the area from the 1940s. The area was fraught with problems way before independence.
@39Missmel
@39Missmel 11 месяцев назад
Wow this is amazing, how and who destroyed this Garden and why this was such a good thing for the community????
@Iriequeen621
@Iriequeen621 14 дней назад
Is the Kiwanis Center still up and running anyone knows?
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica 4 дня назад
Don’t know
@AnthonyEvelyn
@AnthonyEvelyn 11 месяцев назад
Lee Kwan Yu saw our master plan and run wid it. We on the other hand burned our original copy of the master pan.
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica 11 месяцев назад
Not sure that story is correct @AnthonyEvelyn. Lots of Jamaicans said that about the Singaporean icon. If you look at the development choices that both countries made you won’t see many similarities. It’s true that Singapore pursued a manufacturing model but they also evolved into services. They placed a far greater emphasis on education than we did/do and their civil services were/are staffed by their best and brightest. One key takeaway is that Singapore was not a classical democracy, Lee was a benevolent dictator of sorts, that’s how he and his inner circle could achieve the phenomenal growth and development. That model had its disadvantages as well. Check it out.
@AnthonyEvelyn
@AnthonyEvelyn 11 месяцев назад
@@TheRealJamaica The man himself said he came here in 1967 and was shown what the govt at the time was doing and planned to do, some ideas he took with him back to Singapore which was just a transshipment port with a big shanty town behind the huge wharfs. He came back in 1975 to see how we were progressing and was disappointed. LKY's opposite member was a eloquent speaking loquacious and verbose populist, luckily for Singapore he didn't come to power.
@4evahodlingdoge226
@4evahodlingdoge226 10 месяцев назад
@@AnthonyEvelyn He definitely didn't copy the democratic socialism Manley implemented which destroyed our country.
@andrenefinn704
@andrenefinn704 Год назад
I remembered Jamal, now kids are bragging about being Dunce.
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica Год назад
That’s hilarious 😂
@bennettstephenson9090
@bennettstephenson9090 Год назад
were you a student their?
@andrenefinn704
@andrenefinn704 Год назад
Not sure if You're being sarcastic. No, I was not a student there. I was a kid volunteer; I escorted my grandaunt who wanted to learn how to read. While there, I helped others. Most of whom were elders. We lived Walking distance from the location, so it was a no-brainer.
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica Год назад
@@andrenefinn704 It’s sad that the recent history of Jamaica is not known to the younger generations. Jamaica has emerged from such a bad place during colonial times and has achieved so much. It would be worth while to pause and appreciate how much progress has been made over the last 70 years.
@JustisHype
@JustisHype Год назад
@@bennettstephenson9090 😂
@londonbowcat1
@londonbowcat1 5 дней назад
29:15 what song?
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica 4 дня назад
@@londonbowcat1 Jamaican folk song
@inezsmall8474
@inezsmall8474 4 дня назад
He didn’t work with ministers of housing Wilton Hill, what he did he made himself prime minister and minister of finance, so the money was controlled by him.
@soniadrummond2169
@soniadrummond2169 5 месяцев назад
Beautifully dressed babies sweet 💕
@Grogu-485
@Grogu-485 2 года назад
The best Prime Minister and MP in Jamaica's History.
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica 2 года назад
Spent a year documenting his last political campaign... he was an extraordinary man
@charlesjames1464
@charlesjames1464 Год назад
The best until, Andrew Holness.
@04foreverinvincible69
@04foreverinvincible69 7 месяцев назад
Is Micheal Manley
@utah245
@utah245 Год назад
When did evil step in????!!!
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica Год назад
1494!
@Christopher1964agm.comch-fb7nk
@Christopher1964agm.comch-fb7nk 11 месяцев назад
It step in 19 80 when jlp and the pnp started fighting for vote and start giving guns to the youth
@mamajenskitchen1880
@mamajenskitchen1880 Год назад
What happened .
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica Год назад
Jamaica happened
@margaretkirkland8965
@margaretkirkland8965 Год назад
Tivoli was a tribute to eddie seaga lebanese jewish heritage
@oneilclarke8494
@oneilclarke8494 Год назад
A swear this scene 26:15 is completely staged...🤣. I also like the part about 2 man police team having nothing to do and that people walk about freely day and night without fear, yet, burglar bars (grille) are seen on the flats.
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica Год назад
Lol you are correct it was a staged scene but that is common in films like this. Bear in mind this is a propaganda or PR film for the Government of the time. Thanks for watching!👍
@oneilclarke8494
@oneilclarke8494 Год назад
@@TheRealJamaica You're welcome, it was a pleasure.
@richardporter154
@richardporter154 Год назад
If memory serves me correct that so called Police post or police station was shut down after one of it’s enforcers went inside dismissed the two I.S.C.F that were working and removed a man that ran inside for protection. He was thereafter neutralized.
@buttyscott1
@buttyscott1 10 месяцев назад
Farce is a farce
@oneK_876_31
@oneK_876_31 8 месяцев назад
Based on what was said at the end, this was recorded 10 years after its development. Do you really think that if so much effort was placed in people's personal development, they would have to have been closely policed? The question I have is what happened in the 70's? Was it enhanced or systematically destroyed?
@rasjunie
@rasjunie 2 месяца назад
This whole Garden thang is American Government u can find these same Garden inna Los Angeles....Nickerson Garden Avalon Garden etc....
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica 2 месяца назад
I believe you’re right. The Tivoli Gardens model was taken from the US.
@user-tc2fc4pm6o
@user-tc2fc4pm6o 6 месяцев назад
They even cut out the part in the song and said seaga name there vewing him as there god smh you cant do that thats why Tivoli is like that
@londonbowcat1
@londonbowcat1 5 дней назад
19:50 Steel bending Masonry Wood turning and carpentry Cultural life like Steel Pan!
@dwaynesmith6278
@dwaynesmith6278 Год назад
When did all this change!! I will say politics..cuz Tivoli now is a Dump!!! Wudn live dh so prfr go ochi
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica Год назад
Many ask this question. Remember this is a propaganda film made for the architect of Tivoli! You are right about the effects of politics that and many other communities in Jamaica. Thanks for the comment, please subscribe
@solomonbeckford1885
@solomonbeckford1885 5 месяцев назад
The people should be hopeful?
@londonbowcat1
@londonbowcat1 5 дней назад
21:00 Steel Pan says Better Mus Come.
@londonbowcat1
@londonbowcat1 5 дней назад
22:20 who is that ?
@nerdknowledgeunlimited6023
@nerdknowledgeunlimited6023 6 месяцев назад
I wish that this was copied nationwide. I don't think that Seaga was given enough credit for what he did for Western Kingston and what he wanted to do for Jamaica. His government needed at least 20 years to make a significant transformation to Jamaica. Many Jamaicans are impatient. They thought that the country wasn't moving at their speed which is the reason they voted out the JLP.
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica 6 месяцев назад
Good point, however, when one is suffering patients is not a virtue. The rhythm of Jamaican democracy is two terms. Seaga did what he could in the time he had, other leaders should have taken up the challenge of providing public housing for the poor…and in fairness some did🙏
@londonbowcat1
@londonbowcat1 5 дней назад
18 key punch Short hand and typing Sales and cashier Electronic Library Youth clubs for expression But I don't see China people in these spaces and I wonder why !
@joli8166
@joli8166 Год назад
The same man who built it destroyed it.
@TheRealJamaica
@TheRealJamaica Год назад
Wow, profound!🤔
@Grogu-485
@Grogu-485 10 месяцев назад
PNP destroyed it
@04foreverinvincible69
@04foreverinvincible69 7 месяцев назад
Bingo
@devertonpasley4942
@devertonpasley4942 7 месяцев назад
Stop the blame people. No need for that..
@londonbowcat1
@londonbowcat1 5 дней назад
​@@devertonpasley494215:50 2 Africans on that board. West Kingston trust is China people !? Business and industry dominating these spaces
@yfox646
@yfox646 Год назад
When I watch this all I can think is ( what went wrong )....jah jah
@andrenefinn704
@andrenefinn704 Год назад
You're comparing 60 and 70s to today's society with Social Media that has a huge impact worldwide
@londonbowcat1
@londonbowcat1 5 дней назад
​@@andrenefinn7041963 they laid out the scheme. Isn't that Coral Massacre ?
@londonbowcat1
@londonbowcat1 5 дней назад
​@andrenefinn704 27:00 1000 dwelling units High rise rental units 1/3 2/3 are terrace, duplex and single unit bungalows. More desirable on more costly Planning line and lay out Rental units not concentrated in one unit
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