To those who've accidentally ended someone's life, what went wrong? 

Well yeah but also it's daft to assume you will just be killed outright. She could be left in excruciating terrifying pain for minutes/hours, dying slowly. Or she could be left with terrible injuries & disabilities including the loss of limbs or brain damage. It happens. Why risk it.

Ive been in a dark headspace before and know how rough it is but I find dragging anyone else into it (ei doing death by other driver or death by cop) is crappy as hell. If you want to go out in a way that hurts as many people as possible that isn't a terroristic then by car is the biggest and easiest way for that Them 'using' that innocent person traumatizes that person both physically and mentally, and that trauma may make that person want to do the exact same thing that the crappy person couldn't do on their own which caused them to 'use' that person in the first place. Also there is no guarantee that the person will die and then if they live they are most likely left disabled and in a worst position than they were previously (medical bills, potential criminal charges, disabilities, etc) all the while there are innocent people who are now traumatized or dead themselves (one case I recall where someone went over the center line to end it and they lived but the other driver died, so the person who failed to end it was tried for manslaughter or murder or something, there might have even been kids in the car or kids involves somehow, she might have been pregnant when she died? hard to recall). Then there is the fact that in order to reach 'lethal speeds' your more likely doing this crap on a highway and that can lead to a pile up that will end up with many people wounded or unalive. You also can't determine who will be in the vehicle you choose 100% nor who are in the vehicles that may collide with the initial vehicle afterward. Your likely to get at least 1 vehicle with kids depending on the time of year and day. I feel people do this even more to truck drivers tho but don't realize that these people are the life blood of goods in our country as they literally transport goods across it and they see/go thru some horrific shit because people see a transport and think 'it will get the job done'.

@@madhatterline Oh yeah just thought of something, compartment syndrome. They get a crisis unit to help calm the person down/de-escalate as the crew figure out what to do, they realize they don't want to die but then go into a crisis when/if they figure out that they are as good as dead when they remove the wreckage that's pinning them. Imagine having probably about all of 30mins - 1 hr to come to terms with your death for real and not being able to tap out/second guess (which is usually why someone wants something 'fast' so they can't second guess and follow thru but they would get time to second guess but be unable to 'undo' it, existential fear and panic until the wreck is moved and they die. That would be really scary emotionally, which for someone already pushed towards that point may be even more terrifying than just a slow and painful death but feeling fine, feeling like they have 'hope' because of how compartment syndrome works and then be told or realize they are going to die and be fully aware of when its coming, you would be crapping your pants if your bowels weren't severed).

i feel like this is a good time to remind everybody to not guilt trip suicidal people for this though. the last thing people going through these kinds of things need is to feel even worse about themselves

@@cultofmel theres no guilt tripping unless actually drag others into their plan. Intrusive thoufhts happen so if you have thoughts to end it that way its different than actually commiting it using someone else so people who just think kt shouldnt feel guilty. Being suicidal doesn't excuse actively hurting others in the process od hurting/ending yourself. Ive been in that headspace and had to go to the hosptial because of it. Ive had intrusiv4 thoughts of doing similiar (and likr I said, nothing wrong with the thoughts, intrusive or otherwise, because its born from the headspace your in, its acting on them that is wrong as you hurt more than yourself) but luckily I live where there is free healthcare and the local psyche ward staff arent lacking empathy so being sdmitted regularly didnt screw me up more and made comfortable when I felt myself "slipping" to self admit. However if I were to act on some of the intrusive thoughts I had involving using other people driving as my "means to an end", then I would be held accountable for any trauma or death others face in the wake of the wreck Ive made and should be. It is becauze of the state of mind I did that but I still did that, you know what I mean? It wont erase the pain of the others who are now suffering by you or somene you love saying you did it to end your pain. It also isnt guilt tripping to state facts, that if I hadnt jumped in front of that truck then that road pile up with X amount of people dead and Y amount injured woildnt have happened because it started from me colliding with the truck. So it would be my fault. If stating this makes someone feel bad about their future plan then thats GOOD because it might help them delay enough to get help instead of thinking up a new one. Its also good because it shows they have empathy for others and a coubsellor can use that as an 'anchor' to help give them a will to live. I lived for my cats for example. Or if its about something they did in the past then there isnt much to say besides hopefully they got help and/or are working on themselves but you csnt change the past. And again, thoughts/plans do not automatically make someone guilty/make them have to feel guilty. They should talk about it to others, whether thru a helpline, friend or something, to get help before it gets to that point. Suicidal people shouldn't feel guilty about having intrusive thoughts or plans like this znd should reach out. I really hope that they can get help like I did The issue is if they act on it or want to act on it that they should know how many people they would be hurting besides just the innocent person in the car or truck. And also that its not 'guaranteed' that they 'wont make it' so then they potentially made their life 100x worse too. These are facts that if they live, they have to live with and everyone else invovled along with their loved ones too (and if suidicidal person doesnt make it that latter group of people, including their loved ones, will have to live with it). If these facts deter people from commiting this way then good, I hope they dont deter from seeking help and speakinf about it because like I said, action =/= thoughts/plan. Even if they were on thr curb but change their mind its dtill better than following thru and I hope they get help

Well said

Tired driving can have similar affects to drunk driving. If you’re tired while driving, make sure to have plenty of caffeine. And most importantly, pull over somewhere safe and take a rest. It’s better to be late for something, even super important, than to harm yourself or some one else because of your exhaustion.

Or have distractions such as phones, food, etc

@@Dxisy_Fields yeah that to wasn’t really focussing on that

Well ty for this comment I am about to ture 15 yet not driving but in y state they don't teach not to drive tried but now when I drive I would not drive tried.

I know grief does crazy things to a person but I still think that’s very very crappy of her to do to someone considering she’s the adult in the situation.

@@japanesejackalope yeah, hopefully she realises & apologises.

I understand the outburst but i dont understand literally lying and deliberately messing someone else up. If it had been a noose i would understand, although the op still would not have been responsible so with time having passed i hope he realized that even before learning the manner of the friend's death.

My mother has lied about people's self harm methods before, but she has narcissism, so it's completely within her normal character to flat out lie about things like that if the truth reflects badly on her.

I noticed that. I usually don’t notice what’s going on in the game game but wow.

*HYPOCRITE!*

This type of story is why 2A advocates exist.

I think it was because he was already dying. Apparently one of the dying behaviours is that you naturally do this and cough. Completely automatic. Cheyenne stoke shortly there after and then off you go to heaven after some amount of time. All part of the dying process. He was probably holding on to find out what would happen to his dog after his impending death.

That guy better keep that dog safe till the end of the fucking earth If dude held off death itself to make sure the dog was okay, HE MUST STAY SAFE, HE IS A VIP

It's crazy that literally a single person blames op. That's messed up. I doubt he was even responding to her at all. And even if, by some weirdness, hearing about his dog did tip him over the edge, in what way is talking about his dog a mistake on her part? Finally he had a stroke. Complications from the stroke killed him. God.

Honey, I'm so sorry for your loss💗

It wasn't your fault. You DID say something. You didn't know what she did. So don't hate yourself. That's the last thing she would've wanted.

You did take action. You made sure your dad checked up on her. That's all you could have done, realistically. I'm sure you tell yourself you should have known. But you couldn't have known. And therefore, you couldn't have done anything.

Awwwwwwww... Stories like this that involve pets always tug at my heartstrings even more than other stories of such kind. Bless Sacha and may her owner rest in peace. (Also, I am so sorry, I know this is completely unrelated and maybe a little rude of me and I apologize, but I just cannot help myself: seeing your profile pic and username has made me so excited, I love love love VFlower and was not expecting to see another fan on here! :D)

@@dinoheartnerd2265 I'm super stoked to meet another VFlower fan too, I don't think its rude! I keep the username and profile pic so I DO meet other fans! I haven't heard about Sacha since, since my friend doesn't care for her owner anymore, naturally, but the last I heard of her she was doing about as well as a bird can without their first bonded owner. Birds are really sensitive so they do often live with anxiety after losing someone, but otherwise she was in good health and loved. She will always be a little piece of their grandma's history so I'm sure she's getting the best care even now. And she's probably still alive, parrots live a really long time, especially macaws

@@CasualVFlowerEnjoyer Aaaaa I am so happy and excited about that then, thank you so much!! I only got into Vocaloid as a whole several months ago, but Flower has been one of my biggest hyperfixations ever since I started getting into Vocaloid (got introduced to it thanks to my favourite producer, GHOST and Pals, their work has been one of my big hyperfixations for that exact same amount of time as well). I adore Flower so much and am kinda in love with her, to be honest 👉🏻👈🏻 What about you, if I may ask? Do you know/like GHOST? Do you have any favourite songs featuring Flower? And yes, I know, birds are very intelligent and sensitive indeed. I used to have my own pet bird for a while, a rosella I named Spike. I got him for my 14th birthday in January 2016 and he was lovely and made me really happy. I did what I could to take care of him, I was very limited in my abilities because I had him at my father's place that I would only visit for the weekends and some holidays (long story, my parents are divorced and my father has been an abusive bastard my whole life), but Spike and I's time together did not last too long sadly... He passed away later that same year, in October 2016, because he got attacked by a cat or a weasel while in his cage that was kept outside on the porch of my father's house. He was given emergency surgery but did not make it. I was not there when it happened and only learnt about it once he had already been buried. I have felt so guilty for so long even though I know none of it was logically my fault, I could not have done anything and I was only a child (already dealing with an abusive alcoholic father, a lot of mental health issues, ongoing trauma, and more), but I still miss him and I feel so terrible about the fact that his precious life was cut short like that...

@@dinoheartnerd2265 I'm in love with her too lol she's like, cringey to say but, my main waifu. Be still, my lesbian heart lol I'm not as big on English vocaloid songs, I mostly prefer Japanese producers. I would say my favorite song featuring her is a cover of Close To You, she sounds very real in that one. Ghost Rule is also great because she was originally intended to be used in rock music so her growl is exceptionally good. I've been into vocaloid since 2008, I'm old af Which is why I'm glad Flower almost technically has a canon age of 26 rn, her official Twitter up until a year ago listed her birth year as 1997, a year younger than me. Its not there anymore, for whatever reason, but I'd still prefer it to be true rather than her being a perpetual teen like other vocaloids. Idk I'm ADHD rambling now woops I'm sorry to hear about your birdie's untimely end. I had two parakeets growing up, at different times. My first was named Joey and he didn't like anyone except me and mom. He was cute and my mom got him at a flea market if you can believe it. Mom ended up giving him away because she got tired of how noisy he was. We had him for years but one day she just decided he was too much. I was pretty little so I don't remember much about what happened to him after. My second bird was named Sundae and I gave him up to someone who had two parakeets but one died and now the bonded parakeet was lonely. Sundae was by himself so I thought maybe it would be best for him and the other parakeet if they were together. I didn't have the energy or room for two birds, my mental health and living situation were kinda rocky then. But I do know Sundae and his little friend are two peas in a pod now.

@@dinoheartnerd2265 Oh and I want to say that I don't shun English vocaloid music to be pretentious or anything. Back in 2008, and for many years after, there WAS no English vocaloid music. So I'm just used to the Japanese voicebanks, artists and such. Many are still around, like Neru and Giga.

I am extremely sorry to hear all of that, that is just so incredibly traumatic; not only the incident itself but the fact that you are forced to live in such conditions and under constant threat. I empathize with you fully (not just as a woman but especially as a woman who cares deeply and is outspoken about women's issues). You did absolutely nothing wrong. I am so proud of you for defending yourself and surviving. Please take care of yourself, I am sending much love and well wishes.

Or in most countries in Europe. The cops press charges if something serious happens.

I've had nothing close to that but I hit a deer on the interstate in my car, everyone was okay (but the deer) but I keep feeling regret or guilt that I should've been paying more attention when realistically I couldn't have done anything - this experience has helped me to focus more when driving in the future but I am still scared by seeing deer or anything in the road. I cannot imagine your experience which is a thousand times worse. wow.

It’s so selfish to use another person to kill urself. ofc don’t commit at all, but if someone will they should not drag another person down with them

What do you mean AS a playing card?

@@Edicius_Yelnats sry I meant with lol

1) I have a similar story. My mom had a stroke when I was a teenager. Dispite I heard of key clues of stroke, it didn't help me, because women's strokes often differ from the classic scenario seen in man's cases. In my mom's case, she just went to sleep for 3 days and woke up an inadequate person. Given how hard she worked, such a long "nap" wouldn't have surprised me, and I thought that she deserves to finally have a rest, but it turned out to be a sign of something abnormal. It took us a few more days to realize that she suddenly forgot how to do everyday things (for example, she burned a pot of meat on the gas stove and didn't even notice, sitting in the kitchen in a cloud of smoke), had strange habits (she constantly made her own tea and forgot about it, there were 6 mugs of tea on the coffee table), misremembered her experiences or "invented" new memories. Unfortunately, she behaved too adequately in the hospital to be diagnosed with a stroke. However, blood vessel ischemia was noted, signaling that her blood pressure had risen to 300+ units at some point. 2) Had a conversation with Laura Branigan's best friend Natalie. Laura died of aneurism despite being aware that something is wrong for weeks. She for some reason decided to ignore headaches, but would complain about it to her friends. Natalie tried to push Laura into going to hospital, but Laura resisted with all her limbs like a little child. Then Natalie decided she had had enough, and withdrew from the problem.... Only to find her friend dead a few days later. She still can't forgive herself for not doing enough to send Laura to the hospital.

me neither

i agree, and also funny stuff

Go watch a different channel then.

Love that idea!

​@@spicymeatball3297 average rainfurrest attendee behavior

@@liamzakhaev nobody cares about you either, weeb

Really bro... On this video of all others? Shame.

to be fair, I posted that before I processed the title. That's on me

thank you for this explanation