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Toji vs Idle Transfiguration 

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The body vs the soul is one of the biggest debates within the world of Jujutsu Kaisen. In this video I will be taking an interesting look on that debate and ask the question... Would Idle Transfiguration Work on Toji?
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@reaps2661
@reaps2661 Год назад
basically if yuji's a natural enemy, toji's more like an actual predator
@apenasumdesenhistaeso159
@apenasumdesenhistaeso159 Год назад
This comment is so funny and i can't explain why
@Maaseruu
@Maaseruu Год назад
not only toji can resist mahito's technique, he has a split soul katana which directly cut someone's soul, which of course one and only mahito's weakness. So yeah he's built to kill mahito
@meisnewperson
@meisnewperson Год назад
@@apenasumdesenhistaeso159 fr
@skychieftain
@skychieftain Год назад
@@Maaseruu how can toji resist Mahito's technique?
@martianfn2012
@martianfn2012 Год назад
@@skychieftain this video speculates that tojis soul is stronger than others
@dabricio
@dabricio Год назад
Toji is simply built different. Literally "me personally, I wouldn't let that slide" the character.
@Malvium
@Malvium Год назад
Toji the kinda guy to say "who cares" and literally not care about anything.
@uruacufutsal1
@uruacufutsal1 Год назад
He is quite literally built differently
@UwU-xk5cx
@UwU-xk5cx 11 месяцев назад
@@Malvium The only reason bro didn't go into a Itachi arc and massacred his whole clan is cuz he couldn't care less
@user-iz8qk5lt2h
@user-iz8qk5lt2h 11 месяцев назад
Go/jo didn't let it slide against him either
@marquistf1996
@marquistf1996 11 месяцев назад
Literally. Toji does whatever he wants.
@alawaysrandin9462
@alawaysrandin9462 Год назад
Toji's body is shown to be able to completely override somebody's soul, and he's also explicitly aware of the shape of his soul. I don't think Mahito could alter Toji's soul when Toji's body is so powerful that it can erase _other_ people's souls.
@aguywithalotofopinions412
@aguywithalotofopinions412 Год назад
Yeah but he can only do that when they’re inside him. At least as far as we’ve seen. So it’s similar to how Yuji keeps Sukuna under control. And Yuji wouldn’t be able to resist idle transfiguration without Sukuna
@nem0men_901
@nem0men_901 Год назад
@@aguywithalotofopinions412 I really like the choice of words in your first sentence
@shepardice3775
@shepardice3775 Год назад
@@aguywithalotofopinions412 Yuji probably could resist Idle Transfiguration better than pretty much anyone else without Sukuna, for the same reasons why he is in control as the vessel and not Sukuna. Totally immune? No, but resistant? Definitely. Yuji, like Toji and Maki (though to a lesser degree) has a natural superhuman body.
@seanandre4432
@seanandre4432 Год назад
​@@aguywithalotofopinions412 "they can only do it when they're inside him" pause 💀
@nelsonbobbysundani7728
@nelsonbobbysundani7728 Год назад
@@shepardice3775 well said 👏🏼...well said
@patrickmorin752
@patrickmorin752 Год назад
I feel that it is very likely that he won't get one shot by it, he soul alone was enough to take back his own body if I remember
@xanderalexander2545
@xanderalexander2545 Год назад
It was his body bringing his soul
@xanderalexander2545
@xanderalexander2545 Год назад
Also that's why I think he wouldn't be affected as his body seems to lead his soul
@darkhero0685
@darkhero0685 Год назад
The only thing the old lady summoned was Toji body information not his souls, yet Tojis body was so powerful that it completely took over the vessels soul and created a copy of himself (the creator confirmed that the Toji in shibuya is not the real Toji).
@sgcastle8389
@sgcastle8389 Год назад
@@xanderalexander2545 that's different his body took over someone else soul, not his own. If we follow Mahito explanation the soul creates the body, so logically we can say that Toji's soul created a body that won't allow someone else soul to play with its product (which is toji's boy). But since Mahito attacks the soul that created the body i doubt Toji could fight his own soul.
@xanderalexander2545
@xanderalexander2545 Год назад
@@sgcastle8389 his body changed the form of someone else's souls as specific his soul wasn't summoned
@romulolima1181
@romulolima1181 Год назад
I love how now everything we use to sustain toji's theories can be used for Maki aswell lol
@giulianacesca4711
@giulianacesca4711 Год назад
I wish ppl remembered this more often
@singsbadly
@singsbadly 11 месяцев назад
Yuji too, because his soul was strong enough to withstand sukuna. Related to his physical strength even before he was a sorcerer.
@flaredemon9959
@flaredemon9959 11 месяцев назад
Maybe at later stages but even when she achieves Toji's level of raw power, She is nowhere close to same awareness of the soul as Yuji or Toji. It's more connected to one's self-image.Maki can resist it, but to shrug it off is highly unlikely.
@bigboy2217
@bigboy2217 10 месяцев назад
@@singsbadly naw definitely not the same. Everything about toji can be inferred to be true about maki because they share a heavenly restriction. However yuji is just similar in a couple observable ways. The process to compare them is like exactly backwards to what you are saying.
@fg009letyrds8
@fg009letyrds8 10 месяцев назад
Current Maki already is able to keep up with 15f Sukuna in terms of attack speed, reaction speed and move speed, so even the peak Shibuya Mahito would definitely lose even if we scale that Mahito to be equal to Jogo. So yeah, she stomps Mahito.
@motivatedman4630
@motivatedman4630 Год назад
Usually, a soul comes before the body. In Toji's case, it's complete opposite. It doesn't mean he'll be immune to Mahito's ability, no. But imagine, that when Mahito touches someone's soul, he reshapes it like a piece of clay. In Toji's case it won't be clay. It will be stone or something like that. Basically, Mahito *can* change the shape of his soul, but it will take much, much longer to do so.
@LetCode96666
@LetCode96666 Год назад
True, plus Mahito will find his chopped up hands in his pocket every time he tries to touch Toji
@goblinrat6119
@goblinrat6119 7 месяцев назад
Well the thing is that even if he shapes the soul, then... what? Toji literally does not need a soul to inform his body. His body is so strong that *it* tells the *souls* what it should do. So by definition it does not matter what his soul is like, as far as the existence of his body is concerned. So he might be... disoriented, I guess? Momentarily confused before his body just puts it back into shape?
@enjoyer6
@enjoyer6 2 месяца назад
@@goblinrat6119when he was in that grandsons body all that happend is that his body overided his soul and was just acting on pure instinct. When mahito transfigures Tojis soul he could easily do it and Toji wouldn't have any resistance to it. Mahito could easily destroy his soul but his body would just devolve into a similar state like before probably. Which isn't really a wincon for Toji since he's dead. His body just lives on
@goblinrat6119
@goblinrat6119 2 месяца назад
@@enjoyer6 I guess the question is, what does it practically mean to transfigure his soul, in a scenario where it might or might not (we have not, after all, gotten any definitive, canonical answer to how this would interact) actually affect him bodily? Idle Transfiguration does not destroy souls, it changes their shape, thereby changing the shape of the body (as the reality of Mahito's technique says that the soul comes first and the body follows, as he puts it). However, Toji's body, and functionality, is independent of the soul (he was functionally resurrected due to a possession, where his soul was explicitly not brought back), and in fact ignores the soul (the grandson's soul being in the body meant jack shit and got overridden). So, in this scenario, what does it practically speaking mean that Mahito might change the shape of his soul, if the effect (the change of his physical form) does not manifest? Saying he "dies" is kind of questionable, considering Mahito doesn't specifically kill you anyway (well he does, but you didn't die because Idle Transfiguration touched your soul, you died because your body blew up due to it, for example, so unless your body actually submits to that change, you're not dying). Even if his soul's form got changed in some sense, his body can seemingly override the soul anyway. (It does not ultimately matter how strong Mahito's technique is, in itself, because he's not forcibly remolding your body. He's making your own soul do it. And thus, the only pertinent part is that Toji's body can tell a soul to fuck off and stop bothering him.) Of course, all of this has a lot of theorycrafting and guesswork. The actual answer might be anything due to factors that were never considered or detailed, due to the simple fact it was never necessary in the series itself.
@enjoyer6
@enjoyer6 2 месяца назад
@@goblinrat6119 if Mahito changes the shape of Tojis soul, even if his body resists it I'm sure having a disfigured soul would have disastrous effects on his mental. After all, when his body over-writ the grandsons soul it didn't bring his back or anything. He became a senseless fighting machine with no free will. Until the power of love saved him Ofc. Anyway it might not of even been Toji that was special. It could of been the glitch it the seance technique due to his body having 0 cursed energy that made him go crazy. Nothing about his body resisting the soul but the revival just going wrong.
@ShatteredGlass916
@ShatteredGlass916 Год назад
I personally belived that ANY person, as long as they still have their soul, are susceptible to Mahito's technique. The next is question is how strong/ fortified said target's soul is, which ofc different from people to people
@mizonami1934
@mizonami1934 Год назад
That can’t be the case though, since Sukuna is completely immune. Even if it is strong, it still makes Mahitos technique ineffective
@MirioFN
@MirioFN 11 месяцев назад
he isn't. Mahito still touched him@@mizonami1934
@Literally___Me
@Literally___Me 11 месяцев назад
@@mizonami1934Sukuna has a strong soul
@fernandoreimpell2818
@fernandoreimpell2818 11 месяцев назад
​@@mizonami1934 its not that he isnt suspetible, its that sukunas souk is too strong for mahito to handle
@forgetfullsanity
@forgetfullsanity 11 месяцев назад
@@fernandoreimpell2818 also the fact that sukuna would 100% one shot mahito then so he just gave out warnings
@ShinyNumber1
@ShinyNumber1 Год назад
Very huge chance that Toji's body's lack of cursed energy may make idle transfiguration that him the same as a building or object, hence Gege saying it'd be like a bug in a program.
@mosesmkandawire3032
@mosesmkandawire3032 Год назад
Idle transfiguration doesn't target cursed energy but the soul.
@albert6157
@albert6157 Год назад
@@mosesmkandawire3032 even inorganic and inanimate objects have souls in jujutsu kaisen. Thats why the soul liberation blade works. But Mahito can only manipulate souls of organic and animate objects like humans. (With curse energy) but since innate domains treat maki and toji as the same as inanimate objects and terrains, he may be able to avoid it in Domain expansions. Toji's body override someone else's soul. Meaning their soul is the body, freed from cursed energy. I believe that they are immune, as it is explicitly stated, they are sensitive to but immune to curses as they lack cursed energy similar to the terrains around them. They are basically tough inanimate objects in the eyes of jujutsu. Anomalies.
@mosesmkandawire3032
@mosesmkandawire3032 Год назад
@@albert6157 where in jujutsu kaisen does it say even inorganic things have souls?? All because tojis soul can override other peoples soul doesn't exactly mean he is immune to idle transfiguration. All because domains treat them as inanimate objects doesn't mean a direct attack from a curse spirits CT can't affect them too. I believe toji can resist it but not for long. 3-5 hits of idle transfiguration from mahito can kill him. They are nothing like sukuna who is so much aware of his soul than they are. Even toji having override that guy's body he couldn't fully control himself and had to kill himself to not kill megumi
@albert6157
@albert6157 Год назад
@@mosesmkandawire3032 when they explained the soul liberation blade, they explained the idea of the ability to see the shape of souls of both organic and inorganic objects
@albert6157
@albert6157 Год назад
@@mosesmkandawire3032 at the end of the day, its all hypotheses, opinions and speculations. It can only be confirmed by the author.
@aguywithalotofopinions412
@aguywithalotofopinions412 Год назад
While he’d likely not be as vulnerable to it as your average sorcerer, I seriously doubt he could resist it for too long. If Mahito can tag him 4-5 times, he’s dead. Of course, the question is whether he can before Toji cuts him to ribbons so many times that he runs out of CE. Or just uses the Inverted Spear Of Heaven if he has it. Man, Toji is just so freakishly powerful, I love it. Can’t wait to see him animated
@shishisonson100
@shishisonson100 Год назад
Spoilers from latest chapters: Domains absolute hit don't work on Toji or Maki
@aguywithalotofopinions412
@aguywithalotofopinions412 Год назад
@@shishisonson100 oh right I forgot
@khulmach9662
@khulmach9662 Год назад
Toji owns the Liberation Blade, so he can easily attack Mahito's soul.
@sl3kii875
@sl3kii875 Год назад
@@khulmach9662 the fucking what
@aguywithalotofopinions412
@aguywithalotofopinions412 Год назад
@@khulmach9662 it’s called the split soul katana and yeah you’re right. Although the Inverted Spear should give the same result
@Zyluki
@Zyluki Год назад
honesty, he's probably immune my reasoning: the soul is almost certainly connected to innate domains, due to the fact that mahito enters sukuna's innate domain when he touches his and itadori's souls to add onto this, the only sorcerer(aside from sukuna) who has shown to be resistant to mahito is nanami, who said the one height of cursed energy he could never achieve(aside from reversed cursed technique) is a proper domain expansion looking at this with my confirmation bias, this could imply that nanami has put all the pieces for creating a domain in place, except for power and talent which means that his innate domain is ready to expand once he gains the raw power and skill to do so, which is why I think he was resistant to idle transfiguration, whilst Sukuna, someone who has a perfect domain, is immune why is this important? if this is true, this means that mahito is actually manipulating the shape of people's innate domains, and not the core of their souls toji does not have an innate domain, which is why has has no cursed energy so in other words, he has no soul for mahito to manipulate, whether it's through touching him or using his domain(which cannot detect him)
@chaitanyaravisankar2330
@chaitanyaravisankar2330 Год назад
Great deductions.. Damn I hope this sort of explanation is given in the manga
@2j-light
@2j-light Год назад
Gojo states that a sorcerers development is based on their cursed tech. The higher echelon are dominated by ego. Ego something Nanami lacked. You have to have a well defined sense of self to make a domain. This is a really good theory. Since idle transfiguration’s still on the table through Kenjaku I wouldn’t be surprised if this got confirmed to be true.
@jamespa7193
@jamespa7193 11 месяцев назад
This is false lol, the soul is literally your soul in JJK. It’s one of the most important motifs. Toji’s soul would be stronger than his manipulation not “he has no soul.”
@propanesquid5234
@propanesquid5234 11 месяцев назад
what about nobara? she couldnt make a domain but died after the first tap
@jamespa7193
@jamespa7193 11 месяцев назад
@@propanesquid5234 because it’s false everyone has a soul
@toodaloodio
@toodaloodio Месяц назад
2:13 bro did NOT needa say his government name 💀
@THE_HONOURED_ONE_LOL
@THE_HONOURED_ONE_LOL Месяц назад
💀
@macktheknifee9301
@macktheknifee9301 Год назад
Let's not forget about Soul Split Katana. If Toji can use it he can perceive the souls of inanimate objects, meaning he can kill Mahito in less attacks than Mahito can kill him 😂
@smitchyboi
@smitchyboi 6 месяцев назад
In the battle against Todo vs mahito. Not even his black flash can't kill him because it didn't directly hit his soul. So Toji is quite capable of harming mahito's soul with the split soul katana or destroy his domain and negate his curse techniques with the Inverted spear of heaven.
@Ikworsu
@Ikworsu 2 дня назад
@@smitchyboi Uh, no. As the name implies, the "soul split katana" targets one's soul, reason why it can bypass the durability of organisms or cursed spirits, the only way to really harm Mahito is by damaging his soul, and Toji's understanding of souls along the Split Soul Katana would do exactly just that. He'd be basically immune to Mahito's techniques thanks to his understanding of his and other's souls, and he has the weapon to deal with Mahito's type without any problems, he's an even worse opponent to Mahito than Yuji was. (Yuji's barely decent understanding of souls thanks to Sukuna's prescence was enough to make himself immune, Toji's superior understanding would put him even above that)
@smitchyboi
@smitchyboi 2 дня назад
@@Ikworsu let's not also forget, he can basically destroy anything mahito creates with those two tools, Including his domain and transformation.
@RedLogicYT
@RedLogicYT Год назад
I believe he can resist it, and that would mean Maki can too. However I'm not 100% sure.
@lordofthehawks
@lordofthehawks Месяц назад
Even if he couldn’t he could just stab himself with the inverted spear of heaven.
@bonafidecatlover3443
@bonafidecatlover3443 11 месяцев назад
1. The Inverted spear of heaven allows Toji to obliterate the domain with minor inconvenience. Negating any aspect that could bring it up as an advantage. 2. The Inverted Spear of Heaven, again, is a weapon that completely ignores cursed techniques. This makes every single attack lethal against Mahito, not because it can hurt his soul but because it removes the invulnerability the technique provides him. (Debatable) 3. Toji's superior physique puts him on the top of JJK, he'd completely speed blitz and handle Mahito the same way a WWE Champion would handle a toddler. 4. If for any reason Mahito is determined to be an unbeatable opponent due to his invulnerability provided by idle transfiguratiin, Toji isnt the type of person to avoid running from a fight due to his pride. He'd be out of there faster than when he walked out on Megumin.
@lanlingwang8489
@lanlingwang8489 11 месяцев назад
not only techniques, it can negate literally everything.
@spacebar3288
@spacebar3288 10 месяцев назад
Even if the Inverted Spear of Heaven is debatable against Mahito, we still have the Split Soul Katana. That thing explicitly does direct damage to the soul, and it could kill Mahito with enough slices.
@tristanlau1213
@tristanlau1213 9 месяцев назад
The domain won't work on Toji even without the spear, those with heavenly restriction and zero curse energy like Toji or Maki in manga would not be recognized by domains as living beings.
@lanlingwang8489
@lanlingwang8489 9 месяцев назад
exactly. only Sukuna DE works on Toji.@@tristanlau1213
@EazierThanEazy-e
@EazierThanEazy-e 2 месяца назад
ngl he to fast to even be touched by mahito lol
@darwinspain4831
@darwinspain4831 Год назад
I think it would work on toji but it would take forever to kill him.
@iruka6284
@iruka6284 Год назад
Really out here ramping out these quality videos on a crazy regular basis fr one of my fav RU-vidrs keep it up man
@BrokenRonin
@BrokenRonin Год назад
I'm glad you are enjoying the videos! Hope to keep putting out videos you can enjoy
@dmowalk.tv86
@dmowalk.tv86 Год назад
Would have loved to see mahitos face if something like that happened like someone making idle transfiguration useless , without a sukunna I feel the madness of him not being able to comprehend it would have drove him insane
@manuelcamara6400
@manuelcamara6400 Год назад
Now we definitely need a fight between Kenjaku and Maki.
@marcioamaral7511
@marcioamaral7511 Год назад
Maki would get folded Don't get me wrong she's really powerful But Kenjaku has cursed spirits than can probably kill her real fast
@mysteryman8787
@mysteryman8787 Год назад
@@marcioamaral7511 Naoya is arguably one of the strongest curses so far. At her current level, she beat even him easily. Especially since she has a sword which negates defense, the only “curse” that could beat Maki now is Sukuna, Mahoraga, and Gojo
@oreki8707
@oreki8707 Год назад
@@marcioamaral7511 lol no ,maki cannot be a worst matchup for Geto's ct
@onesmileybaldy8303
@onesmileybaldy8303 Год назад
@@mysteryman8787 brother,Kenjaku is a being that has been alive for more than 1000 years,the amount of knowledge on cursed energy this guy has is only rivaled by Sukuna and he has the busted technique of a guy that can store thousands of cursed spirits,many of them most likely special grade. Doesn’t matter how much you hype up Maki,she isn’t taking that W.
@mysteryman8787
@mysteryman8787 Год назад
@@onesmileybaldy8303 Bro I am not hyping any shit up. We already seen what would happen with 0 CE HR and CSM. In that encounter Toji won. Maki and Kenjakue would just be the same thing. The only way Kenjaku is winning is with outside factors and planning, because Geto is in no way faster than Maki, who can react at one of the fastest curses we seen. Kenjaku would only win with a spirit we had never seen, which could be faster Naoya, which I don’t find likely he has.
@berlinglasgow9585
@berlinglasgow9585 11 месяцев назад
short answer no because heavenly restriction is a broken and completely unexplored ability in the JJK verse
@TheDreadNought22
@TheDreadNought22 Год назад
Thanks for bringing us such good videos on a constant bias. Waiting for that Miwa peak video
@BrokenRonin
@BrokenRonin Год назад
Thank you for enjoying the videos I put out so regularly! Miwa video on the way as well
@brandon1687
@brandon1687 9 месяцев назад
Very detailed video, you even brought out the information from interviews which are usually very hard to find. P/s: Toji had the weapon that hard counters Mahito, the split soul Katana that skips the hardness and just slashes directly to the soul
@kingki1953
@kingki1953 2 месяца назад
Which one?
@brandon1687
@brandon1687 2 месяца назад
@@kingki1953 wdym which one?
@chriswalker6233
@chriswalker6233 Год назад
Can we just imagine if mahito had a binding vow for his curse technique he would be OP
@on1onsalt902
@on1onsalt902 10 месяцев назад
It’s quite simple, the stronger the soul the more resistance you have to idle transfiguration. The body and the soul are the same, Toji has a crazy strong body therefore a crazy strong soul. Toji one shots mahito with soul split katana.
@ash-2650
@ash-2650 Год назад
These heavenly restrictions characters are presented as bugs in JJK world and they are immune to many things. We already encountered a similar situation in relation to domain and this situation also won't be any different.
@JacoreyLuttrell
@JacoreyLuttrell Месяц назад
2:43 why mahito tweaking like that
@patrickmorin752
@patrickmorin752 Год назад
Would yutas cursed technique be able to copy angels technique to prevent cursed techniques? If so could the group use that to free gojo without have them kill yuji and sukuna?
@EXQUIS1T3
@EXQUIS1T3 Год назад
If that is a possibility, it wouldn't be possible without a great sacrifice, like losing a shit ton of his CE potential and/or sacrificing one of his biggest powers (either sacrificing Rika completely, or losing the ability to copy any other CT)
@patrickmorin752
@patrickmorin752 Год назад
@@EXQUIS1T3 yeah, even if it is possible gege will find a way to put a twist on it
@greatteacherdaffy6219
@greatteacherdaffy6219 Год назад
@@EXQUIS1T3 Why? Yuta's never been shown to have been forced to put limitations like that on his copied techniques
@EXQUIS1T3
@EXQUIS1T3 Год назад
@@greatteacherdaffy6219 true, but having such an insanely big feat shouldn't be possible so easily. It just would be a cheesy plot armor strat
@Kisuke258
@Kisuke258 Год назад
@@EXQUIS1T3 the limit is that it can only be used for 5 minutes.
@badassproductions4734
@badassproductions4734 Год назад
Well damn so basically mahito would need to pull a yuji where he lands a 100% power black flash to even do any notable damage
@murcielagokj
@murcielagokj Год назад
I don't think he can even touch toji at all. I bet he can even dodge the sure hit from mahito's domain
@Blackjesus327
@Blackjesus327 Год назад
Even if mahito can damage his soul. Because of how strong it is, he’s need quite a few hits on the soul. While toji is much faster and has a weapon that attacks the soul directly. Toji blitz and one shots. I don’t even see a way for mahito to ever win unless you make toji go in bare handed.
@myusername3689
@myusername3689 9 месяцев назад
Even if Toji goes in bare handed, he’s way too fast and skilled to get touched by Mahito. Not to mention, Toji can likely see souls without any weapons due to his heavenly restriction, meaning he can whoop Mahito without soul damaging weapons.
@Sam_ByRushian
@Sam_ByRushian 24 дня назад
Dying light Soundtrack 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥 i regonise it anywhere
@TO5993-j
@TO5993-j 2 месяца назад
Regarding the strength of the soul, is it possible to bring Gojo back using Kenjaku CT? Like when part of Geto body regained their original consciousness that few seconds during Shibuya Incident. Like I hope there could be a bug for Gojo to finally return to life
@doopdope2211
@doopdope2211 Месяц назад
I think the soul piloting Gojo's body would have to do something he disagrees with. Geto was able to reflexively choke Kenjaku only when he was in the middle of sealing Gojo, his best friend. Every other act of villainy done in Geto's body want met with that reaction tho - despite knowing Yuki, Geto didn't react when Kenjaku fought and killed her. I'd say the main issue rn is that Gojo gave Yuta permission to pilot his body. He didn't care. I also can't see Yuta doing something that Gojo disagrees with so much that he reflexively does something. But idk, disagreement with what the body is doing is the only emotion we've seen be able to trigger the dead, but there might be another way
@theguywhoasked2957
@theguywhoasked2957 15 дней назад
Mahito is extremely broken His soul manipulation simply ignores durability Toji is done once he uses idle transfiguration
@AYAZakin-i9z
@AYAZakin-i9z 12 дней назад
toji is immune to idle transfiguration even *if* he is not ı think he will still win he is almost faster then sound he can survive a short ranged reversal red from gojo himself he can one shot %90 of jjk characters he beat the shimata out dagon and toy with him and he is immune to all domain expensions all he have to do is act faster then mahito then jobs done
@neekogregory1885
@neekogregory1885 Год назад
Toni most definitely needs 2-3 touches but he gotta get touched first and if you really think about it, it’s Tojo he ain’t finna let Mahito get a chance to move
@shadowplayer11.86
@shadowplayer11.86 11 месяцев назад
Mahito would need to actually be able to touch Toji before he could do that. With Toji's speed, he wouldn't have to worry about that even
@shiroe6130
@shiroe6130 Год назад
wheres the promised miwa video??? i feel betrayed, nice vid btw
@BrokenRonin
@BrokenRonin Год назад
Miwa video is in the works, but a 20 minute video is gonna take a little while to put together. Glad you liked the video
@shiroe6130
@shiroe6130 Год назад
Ight i'll wait
@luigio8484
@luigio8484 Год назад
alternate answer: toji decks mahito in the shnoz before he gets a chance to touch toji's soul
@SwagUnicorn82
@SwagUnicorn82 2 месяца назад
i cant tell if the background music is dying light or not
@Otzar987
@Otzar987 3 месяца назад
Why does Toji in the thumbnail look like Yuta
@froopydoopy-x3f
@froopydoopy-x3f 11 месяцев назад
As shown with panda the soul is located inside the body and can be moved consiously so most likely mahito traces the cursed energy of the soul to find it and reshape it, that would make toji completely immune to idle transfiguration due to his souls basically being invisible due to the lack of physical or cursed energy prescence, that would mean mahito would need to be in contact with toji for a while to even find a soul, and im willing to bet any enemy of toji that gets in contact with him for more than 0,1 sec is basically done
@t3hlandstv309
@t3hlandstv309 Месяц назад
dying light soundrack goes hard
@2j-light
@2j-light Год назад
Sukuna is vary much an outlier when it comes to idle transfigurations effects. Primarily cause Sukuna is enlightened. Similar to Tengen they are beings that transcend logic. It’s stated that Sukuna is an example of what would happen if Tengen let go of his remaining humanity. Become a being ambivalent to all things. Gojo is also enlightened but to a lesser degree since he won’t budge on his humanity. It’s why he doesn’t have the body dysmorphia that Sukuna and Tengen have. Toji and Maki might have some invulnerability but we’ve seen Mahito fight someone with heavenly restriction. Mechamaru or Muta. Mahito even reversed his restriction completely. Though heavenly restriction can effect people differently so maybe the Toji/Maki brand of restriction gives soul hacks.
@AlphaNinjaFTW1
@AlphaNinjaFTW1 11 месяцев назад
mechamaru lost heavenly restriction the moment he was healed
@therizzler777
@therizzler777 11 месяцев назад
Toji's soul and not his body is the factor here though. Tojis soul should be 1000000 times stronger than mechamaru
@fg009letyrds8
@fg009letyrds8 10 месяцев назад
Mechamaru definitely still has Cursed Energy in him, Toji and Maki are far above Mechamaru in terms of Heavenly Restriction Hierarchy.
@montecristo7527
@montecristo7527 2 месяца назад
Toji would one shot Mahito, he has the inverted spear of heaven and he's too fast for even Gojo with the six eyes to keep track of
@farsous10
@farsous10 2 месяца назад
Too fast for pre round 2 gojo yea, but gojo became too fast for toji after that. But you’re right mahito is so much more inferior to toji, he would get one shot not just with inverted spear but soul split katana would also do damage on him
@akriel67
@akriel67 Год назад
I would say that mahito technique would work but it’s would take like 5-8 attaches to fully the distort the soul I mean that’s what I got since of nanami but it would work
@halcyon2190
@halcyon2190 Год назад
Toji has no cursed energy to subconsciously defend against it like Nanami did
@anotherjhon8193
@anotherjhon8193 Год назад
Mahito: OK then I wi... Toji: No. M: What? T: I said no. You won't. M: :/ T: :) M: But... I didn't ev... T: The answer is still no. M(thinking to himself): "Damn is that how Itadori feels when I start to annoy him?"
@woods93bullet44
@woods93bullet44 Год назад
Toji is legit just "Fuck around and find out"
@hazalbakunawa2373
@hazalbakunawa2373 Год назад
This was a question that's been bugging me, thanks for answer it. So Mahito's technique is resisted not nullified.
@itsjustvin7630
@itsjustvin7630 Год назад
So far only Angel could negate it
@orbitxgalaxy697
@orbitxgalaxy697 Год назад
I’m pretty sure mahito wouldn’t even react to Toji and just get straight one shotted 😭 in a real fade but I would like to think he can resist it
@infinityis0
@infinityis0 Год назад
One of my favorite creators asking one of the most interesting questions in JJK. Based. Even better since I just saw this on reddit
@Blah2000Blah
@Blah2000Blah Год назад
Superior body = superior soul
@joel2754
@joel2754 Год назад
I think that the quality or strength of a Soul can be interpreted as toughness or malleability of the Soul considering Idle Transfiguration. While normal, run-of-the-mill Souls are like Blobs of Clay to Mahito, Souls like Toji's are more akin to a Block of Steel in terms of durability. That he faced Sukuna when he wanted to use Idle Transfiguration on Yuji could just be the fact that Mahito involuntarily touched both Souls, since they are entangled and roam the same body, falling in line with Kenny's statement of the Soul(s) being the Body and the Body the Soul(s), thus giving Sukuna the chance to turn it into a battle of Domains, as he's still an individual just not in control of the body he roams. So, like, Toji would probably get a few freebies before getting Chronenburged.
@randomcatname7792
@randomcatname7792 Год назад
Considering Maki, who is arguably weaker, but in no way stronger than Toji, can completely negate domains, it seems highly improbable that Toji would not be able to effectively completely negate this skill just as easily
@㭊
@㭊 Год назад
they are relative, maki is probably already a bit stronger then Toji...💀😭
@10000Winters
@10000Winters Год назад
Agreed. The revelation that domains DONT EVEN RECOGNIZE HER and can’t be used on her along with her own comparison to Toji makes me think that his greater heavenly restriction means he has zero cursed energy as well.
@maxine6566
@maxine6566 Год назад
@@㭊 she probably will be stronger than him in future fights but currently they´re the same level as per her latest fight
@redkingosiris3800
@redkingosiris3800 Год назад
Stop this bullshit THEY ARE EQUAL I REPEAT THEY ARE NOW CONFIRMED EQUAL ain’t no she is arguably weaker she is as strong and since she’s still alive she will grow to be stronger in the future
@randomcatname7792
@randomcatname7792 Год назад
@@redkingosiris3800 Aside from the small part where until the last chapter she was in, which leaves it ambiguous, she was confirmed weaker
@georgegobin1839
@georgegobin1839 Год назад
Im new here but was wondering if.....Mob Psycho could solo every character in jujutsu kaisen?!😅
@BrokenRonin
@BrokenRonin Год назад
Not a bad video idea at all. I might just make it
@georgegobin1839
@georgegobin1839 Год назад
@@BrokenRonin Thanks👍 I think it would make for an awesome idea too. Well while im here I think some other jujutsu kaisen vs mob psycho 100 ideas that I have are maki zenin vs Ryo Shimazaki or sukuna vs mogami. Ok that all. Thank you for commenting and your videos are awesome!👍
@SupremeDad18
@SupremeDad18 2 месяца назад
if the Qu was a cursed spirit
@bdpchamp3907
@bdpchamp3907 11 месяцев назад
Even if idle transfiguration worked on Toji, he’s too fast for mahito to ever touch. Mahito was getting into exchanges with and losing in close quarter combat with yuji, Toji would completely blitz him. And being that toji has the split soul katana in his arsenal, which is a weapon that directly attacks and cuts the soul, he’s tailor made to kill mahito and ignore his usual resistances
@RadiationEnthusiast282
@RadiationEnthusiast282 11 месяцев назад
Domain expasion has guaranteed hit effect (except for dagon) so i'm not sure target's speed revelant or not
@bdpchamp3907
@bdpchamp3907 11 месяцев назад
@@RadiationEnthusiast282 this is correct, but taking character personalities into consideration, mahito never looks to start any battle with domain expansion and he especially wouldn’t do so with Toji who he’d think was just a weak human with no cursed energy. His domain expansion also has a start up time and toji can absolutely kill him before he even has time to open it up. It really would only take a few slashes with the soul splitting katana to kill him. Edit : also as per the manga with makis recent fight in the culling games it was confirmed that those with no cursed energy like toji and maki are unaffected by the sure hit condition of a domain because they are perceived by domains as objects and not sorcerers due to their lack of cursed energy.
@LeeXY-07
@LeeXY-07 2 месяца назад
What happens if toji eats a finger and becomes a vessel ?
@saif-gv6gl
@saif-gv6gl 2 месяца назад
Most people would die, only Yuji and Megumi's are vessels, Yuji being a bit special because he can actually imprison Sukuna instead of getting possessed like Megumi, possibly because of his dad being the reincarnated Sukuna's twin
@iceninja9x425
@iceninja9x425 11 месяцев назад
Imo Mahito could potentially harm Pre-Death Toji as Toji's Soul and Body exists at the same time. But "reanimated(?)" Toji would be immune to idle transfiguration because his Body exists, and Mahito's CT would only be affecting the supressed soul, which may not affect Toji whatsoever. And this is just my Opinion and speculation
@TheBluePhoenix008
@TheBluePhoenix008 9 месяцев назад
Well, for Idle Transfiguration to hit, he'd have to _touch_ toji. Mahito is getting jumped(admitly off guard) by Yuji. I highly doubt he'd be able to touch Toji if Toji knew his technique. Then it's just a matter of Mahito using his domain which might just be ggs, it all depends of Toji's kit. If he's got those heaven cutter things, I'd give it to Toji mid diff.
@Whodene13
@Whodene13 Год назад
To awnser it we have to understand how soul is works in the jjk universe. The possibility to override ones soul with just the body and the fact that body is directly connected to the soul what was written when gojo was getting sealed and he saw geto, their chat where Gojo has directly seen Getos soul inside of controlled by kenjaku body. So there is a big chance that it would be not so useful. We could also just assume that depending on how much stronger someone is thjan the user less it works wuch could explain why he had to use couple of morphs to make a change on toudo
@nico21989
@nico21989 Год назад
if mahito could revert mechamaru's heavenly restriction he could do the same with toji
@VolfKami
@VolfKami Год назад
🤣🤣 I feel like an idiot, the premise of this video is Mahito laying a hand on Toji. I just watched the Maki video, and was so confused on how Toji would get touched during the fight
@popbat
@popbat 2 месяца назад
i just thought of a matchup, shibuya mahito vs 15 finger sukuna cause mahito is stronger than jogo and could maybe hold his own longer against sukuna (probably not win though)
@Makintosh5665
@Makintosh5665 9 месяцев назад
There's actually still big potential for the soul curse, his ability of evolution is very op. There's also a thing in my mind, he can control souls but with accurate souls manipulation you can basicaly do clones of other sorcerers and possibly even manipulate them
@marksoriano375
@marksoriano375 Год назад
Mahito CT can affect Toji. Soul and body tagged along and both on the series can be damaged, mahito can see he's target percentage how vulnerability they become to he's attack. Toji body can be exhausted,damage etc. On some point he will be.
@Caernunnos
@Caernunnos 11 месяцев назад
Sukuna isn't immune to Mahito's technique, he is able to defend against it but it is very much a conscious effort, If Mahito was able to withstand Sukuna's attack while landing Idle Transfiguration enough time, eventually, Sukuna would be affected . He isn't immune so much as he has a counter mesure against it
@raimeihakke6552
@raimeihakke6552 Год назад
Day One of Asking for :TOJI vs YUTA🙏🏾
@nelsonlazcano7732
@nelsonlazcano7732 Год назад
Toji 2 weapons, WIN.
@the_infinexos
@the_infinexos 4 месяца назад
The thing is, even if Toji wasn't immune/resistant, he is far faster than Mahito. He is the peak of physical capabilities because of his inability to use jujutsu. If Mahito struggled with Yuji, Toji would be another tier, as evading his touches would be child's play ...however, as far as I know, Toji doesn't have a way to directly damage souls. He could speedblitz Mahito all he likes, but the fact is all Mahito has to do is regenerate until Toji hopefully runs out of stamina
@j.e.thomas9759
@j.e.thomas9759 Год назад
Hell No...Toji would make the technique bounce back on Mahito...Mahito would be transmogrofied
@singsbadly
@singsbadly 11 месяцев назад
This is also probably why yuji doesn’t let sukuna take over. His body and soul are ripped!
@Жэка-ф5ч
@Жэка-ф5ч Месяц назад
Well mahito can try to do it if CATCH THIS MF FIRST
@DreamOrbzLOLZ-iS-hANdsOME
@DreamOrbzLOLZ-iS-hANdsOME 11 месяцев назад
When you think about it. Toji with prep time can ass whoop everybody.
@Goomoonryoung
@Goomoonryoung 11 месяцев назад
Toji’s body has a zero cursed energy so it’s naturally resistant against cursed techniques and domains with barriers don’t even register Toji being inside
@melonbutters3568
@melonbutters3568 2 месяца назад
I like a lot more the theory of someone in the comments which argues that maybe Mahito's souls manipulation is strictly related to inner domains, therefore, the lack of any cursed energy (The literal pillar of any tech, specially, domains) Toji has no inner domain that can be altered, and so Toji would be inmune, hence this "bug".
@goblinrat6119
@goblinrat6119 7 месяцев назад
Toji just literally has muscle memory. He doesn't need something as inconsequential as a soul to tell his body what it should be like. It fucking knows. His body can backwards engineer him back into existence because he's Built Different.
@buggytheclown1533
@buggytheclown1533 3 месяца назад
Toji: … Get your unwashed hands off of me you freak! *proceeds to brutally and ruthlessly annihilate Mahito*
@arcuslux516
@arcuslux516 Год назад
The massive IF Mahito can even touch HIM, bro speed blitz + soul splitter boom, Toji was hired to kill a curse and poor poor Mahito is just another victim of the GOAT.
@thetrueyuu8474
@thetrueyuu8474 11 месяцев назад
Toji: “Yeah idk how you grandchild’s soul got lost, probably couldn’t handle my body.” Pause
@MadMax22
@MadMax22 Год назад
A little clue. Mahito was looking for the perfect body to reflect his soul. So maybe that's what sukuna did to achieve his two faces and four arms look.
@aPink_Lemon
@aPink_Lemon 7 месяцев назад
Straight up I don’t think Mahito could keep a hand on Toji long enough
@ThatGuy-c5g
@ThatGuy-c5g 11 месяцев назад
I mean, Im pretty sure the heavenly restriction works by weakening your soul but strengthening your body, while heavenly pact would strengthen your soul for weakening your body.
@FraudHawk-pk9cb
@FraudHawk-pk9cb 3 месяца назад
Okay toji vs mahito is basically hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby because toji is way faster than mahito so even if his cursed technique worked on toji he can’t even touch him and his domain won’t work because toji doesn’t have any cursed energy
@t_raywen8750
@t_raywen8750 Год назад
This is a question that could be answered in the future. After all kenjaku could use it on maki one day.
@Poopyhead3
@Poopyhead3 2 месяца назад
Mahito manipulating bodies:😱 The QU manipulating bodies:💀 If ya know ya know
@laissezfaire4693
@laissezfaire4693 Год назад
I'ma make my guess before I watch to see if I'm anime smart, FUCK NO I think the only way to bypass the hax of idle transfiguration is to be aware of your own soul n I don't recall him being able to at all, the only way I think he could is his cursed weapon that nulls cursed technique
@haikei888
@haikei888 3 месяца назад
All in all, even if idle transfiguration does work on Toji, I doubt Mahito would be able to get a hit on him. But that's what domain expansion is for, so the question still stands
@NotEvenOverThere
@NotEvenOverThere 3 месяца назад
I believe it would work but in a similar manner to with Nanami on a larger scale. So he would likely be able to just take normal damage like a regular fight and mahito would have to actually subdue him like with Yuji. Just watched and realized we said the same thing
@ElijahYandell
@ElijahYandell 11 месяцев назад
Play the show what would happen in simple His body is a soul Fire his body being so tough you probably takes a lot more energy To make it shift and form. for sukuna He's a curse and curses have infinite soul
@00J-Tone
@00J-Tone Месяц назад
Even if Mahito could it would take so much effort Toji would have killed him many times over by then
@TojiFushigoroWasTaken
@TojiFushigoroWasTaken 10 месяцев назад
dying light sound track?...someone's got good taste
@flamesage6796
@flamesage6796 9 месяцев назад
I find this video interesting. Not only for the topic, that's just a fascinating idea. But the way you were able to gather the information and prove an idea you had. Also the fact the information was all there, to come to such a conclusion. JJK sure is interesting.
@disastrous-vr4pi
@disastrous-vr4pi 10 месяцев назад
This is a trigger video if yuji smacked mahitos cheeks you think toji wouldn't? Come on bro no contest he doesnt have minor resistance ...he can override other ppls soul completely and is a counter to almost every sorcerer he was literally a sorcerer assassin mahito wouldn't even know how to approach this guy let alone kill him😅
@TheAyin9999
@TheAyin9999 11 месяцев назад
i disagree breaking free of grandma seiyan technique was because of his physical not soul he took over grandma seiyans grandson because he was incredibely powerful with his physicality not his soul
@Bagrieru
@Bagrieru 7 месяцев назад
For me it sounds way simpler. Protecting your soul could be something much more animalistic and instinctual, wich people with Heavenly restriction fit in with their senses an everything
@nitroz.
@nitroz. 7 дней назад
i think the reason sukuna is immune to it is not because he is this strong, but mainly because its mahito attacking yujis soul and sukuna is just existing there, kinda like a bodyguard since its not in his best interest for mahito to turn his vessel into a vegetable, so when he interacts with yuji sukuna stops him with shrine like they are having a one on one, i imagine if sukuna had no vessel he would get damaged like others
@serbanstein
@serbanstein 2 месяца назад
My theory is that Mahito needs to feel your cursed energy to target your soul when he touches you, but since Toji/Maki has no cursed energy, their soul is invisible and cannot be locked on.
@hasanalsarray5173
@hasanalsarray5173 11 месяцев назад
Idle transfiguration won't work because tojis body overrites his soul
@Zen_Zay
@Zen_Zay Год назад
Idk how I’m just now discovering this video but this is a question I’ve been asking myself for a couple weeks and now I have a little more clarity on the subject.
@Headsmashmedia
@Headsmashmedia 17 дней назад
*dying light menu music in the background* Me: I respect you even more
@josephvaccariello4181
@josephvaccariello4181 10 месяцев назад
I mean mahito was able to mess with another heavenly restriction users body (the a lot of cursed energy type) who likely would have had its own type of awakening but like toji soul is likely just high level due to his heavenly restriction so i still think soul manip will fuck him up after a few hits. Now if he has the soul splitting katana mahito has no chance but like against the berserker version with just a nearly destroyed playful cloud i think he would win
@User4gaming835_came_back
@User4gaming835_came_back 17 дней назад
would mahito kill megumi if he touched his dogs? or would idle trasfiguration work on mahoraga? therefore mahoraga is a shikigami and does not have a soul but its own mind.
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