Tolarian Tutor: Thoughtseize And Hand Disruption - Improve Your Magic: The Gathering Gameplay

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Thoughtseize. It’s the spell of choice that’s become eponymous with Hand Disruption. It’s been at the core of many popular formats for many years now - whether in Theros Standard or in Modern, where it sees the most play. Even when Thoughtseize isn’t legal in a format, the family of hand disruption spells that are legal see a lot of play.
Hand disruption is one of the most annoying forms of interaction to play against, and oftentimes, one of the hardest forms of interaction to master. Today, we’ll be digging in deep into what you need to know in order to maximise the payoff from using Hand Disruption spells. We’ll be looking primarily at the common play patterns and tips and tricks of using Thoughtseize.
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@DylanCEdh 3 года назад

Wow, it’s been awhile since I’ve seen a tolarian tutor video. That’s actually how I found your channel. Takes me back.

@lowlyspy 3 года назад

Oh man this is like those days where you walk into class to see the tv cart already pulled in. Someone get the lights and lets enjoy what we get to learn today.

@cinnamonhenke2143 3 года назад

My favorite days!

@danieldeckard3370 3 года назад

You're welcome for the 69th like

@emobassist 3 года назад

When i always saw the old tv on a cart i knew it was a good hour

@dataghost2307 3 года назад

After graduating high school, I couldn't figure what to do with my future. That's why I decided to continue my education with Tolarian community college. Now, not only do I piss my friends off on game nights, I pissed my parents off by not going to a real college. Thank you Tolarian community college! 👍 😋 Here is where the magic begins! 😏

@tommyg121 3 года назад

The Tolarian Tutor series is how I found TCC, stoked to see it come back!

@Haplessrabit 3 года назад

As someone who's deck knowledge is not the greatest, building a deck around hand disruption and Surgical Extraction/Extirpate may not be the easiest to play. But it sure makes learning fun.

@Alikaoz 3 года назад

Getting to know what your opponent is up to is half the advantage. Gotta love nigh perfect information.

@Alikaoz 3 года назад

Never forget to shock yourself against burn.

@alexandervdb 3 года назад

Fetch, shock, thoughtseize, scoop

@zasma 3 года назад

@@alexandervdb fetch, shock, thoughtseize *laughs in death's shadow*

@hopping_moon 3 года назад

@Almer Lahar just yes

@tavitalvensaari6355 3 года назад

Crack this Bloodstained Mire, I'll find a Sacred Foundry and shock it. Tap for a Red, cast Shock targeting myself.

@someoneishere3536 3 года назад

As a burn player this comment section is basically what happens

@GolfJuliettWhiskey 3 года назад

I've stopped playing magic, but I haven't stopped watching prof!

@reubenshiflet1952 3 года назад

Dont forget the best anti hand disruption: one with nothing

@schrottinator 3 года назад

Glint-Horn Buccaneer agrees.

@unstopable_rob 3 года назад

No it's lion's eye diamond, because it's got a black lotus on it

@reubenshiflet1952 3 года назад

@@unstopable_rob got me there

@unstopable_rob 3 года назад

I know this because when I would play legacy I couldn't afford led so I just ran one with nothing

@nikos731 3 года назад

Good video, but I would have liked a special mention to Hymn to Tourach, one of the best (if not the best) Discard spells ever that can also hit lands randomly and creates CA, while I would have also appreciated mentioning one of the main problems discard have nowdays, which is playing around Veil of Summer.

@SimeonCogswell Год назад

I know these are older, but as someone who's getting back into Magic after 20 years I've found the whole series priceless for learning how to play in a new environment, thank you!

@lockhartwalker1431 3 года назад

I'm so glad the professor is continuing the tolarian tutor series, it's a really good. Keep it up Prof!

@ave_maria323 3 года назад

It is

@hundun5604 3 года назад

Hard to believe this has only 73k views. These study vids are so good. Knowledge is power. 🧙‍♂️💪

@justinem4117 3 года назад

Thoughtseize, a great card in 60 card constructed but not so useful in commander as commander players typically have enough answers that a little bit of targeted hand disruption doesnt really do a whole lot, but in modern? Total powerhouse! Also i enjoyed this detailed philosophy on hand attack ^^

@JonaxII 3 года назад

Actually, it's still pretty awesome in duel commander. The main issue with it in normal commander is not based on deckbuilding differences, but more in having three opponents, leading to what you said - it not being able to get all answers with it. Even more important: you set yourself (and the victim) at a -1 card disadvantage compared to the other two players.

@charleybrett1663 3 года назад

@@JonaxII I agree, although I think it gets better for cedh (even in a 4 player group) as it can be used like how prof talked about in legacy to check for counters before attempting your combo. Of course, there are still potentially two other players with counters, but that's still a 1/3 improvement and it can be better in certain scenarios (such as if one of your opponents is nonblue, or tapped out).

@JonaxII 3 года назад

@@charleybrett1663 true, but these kind of all in combo decks (like Sidisi ad nauseum, I love that pile, lol) tend to be at the lower powered end of the cedh spectrum, so I tend to forget them... The dreaded "people outside cedh hate me if I play it, in cedh I rarely win, so I can never actually have fun" power level, at which somehow half of my brews end up.

@charleybrett1663 3 года назад

@@JonaxII Godo, K'rrik, and Selvala are all pretty good imo

@noesunyoutuber7680 2 года назад

@@charleybrett1663 Having played a K'rrik deck, it's very silly. You don't even care about all-in combos, you just play mana rocks and then start casting Sheoldred on Turn 4 and other nonsense.

@GarciLP 3 года назад

Wonderful advice, and very well put, coming from a Modern Jund pilot! A terrific resource I'll be pointing to whenever someone asks me for pointers on the deck :)

@JohnnyDeLeo1 3 года назад

I love this series! I play Nic Fit and Storm in Legacy where hand disruption is a key part of the game plan. I honesty believe that learning how to play with Cabal Therapy made me a better Magic player overall. Hand disruption is a powerful tool in every MTG players list of skills and everyone should learn it! Thanks for putting this together Prof!

@smegmalasagna 3 года назад

3:50 I generally agree with these points but it all depends on the sort of deck you are playing of course. If you are playing eight rack then Raven's Crime is not a bad choice since you are completely focused on them discarding a lot of cards (so eventually they will have to throw away their good stuff) but also emptying your own hand as quickly as possible to get more value out of Liliana's +1.

@andrewrichter3185 3 года назад

Not to mention emptying your own hand as fast as you can so that your ensnaring bridge is useful

@Xiphosedoesmc 3 года назад

Professor can you give me an extension? This material is messing with my hand

@cliffordsherman7702 3 года назад

Gamer Gavin if your hand was disrupted you will need a note from a judge to get an extension.

@RL_22 3 года назад

Prof: ...For the people that already play at Friday night magic. 2020: *Yes, but no.*

@nemanjadomanovic151 3 года назад

Protip: keep cards revealed to opponent upside down to remind you what your opponent has seen. And yes I mostly run into jund at FNMs.

@danieldeckard3370 3 года назад

To build on this, anytime I'm playing in a tournament at any level I write down any card I see go into an opponent's hand. For example, cards like Goblin Guide, Militia Bugler, etc. but also anything I see with Thoughtseize, Duress, etc. but don't forget to cross it out/erase it if they cast it (unless you notice it has a different art than the one you already saw). This is really helpful for making decisions later in the game.

@agiledrunk737 3 года назад

I really like this tip, thank you.

@luliby2309 3 года назад

Yeah! Tolarian Tutor is back! Also, props for using the proper term "sandbagging" instead of "slow-rolling". So many Magic players have no clue what slow-rolling actually is.

@Kattywagon29 3 года назад

PROF, perhaps in the future it would be helpful to mention why certain strategies/cards are better for certain formats. For instance, Thoughtsieze is not a card you see very often in Commander. Some people might not understand why that is. SIDE NOTE: Glad to see Tolarian Tutor is back! These videos have always been helpful.

@lucenildofilho5710 3 года назад

The way he speaks in this video is so much better than the older ones! Nice improvement prof!

@Jakar_Umbra 3 года назад

I've barely gotten into the video but the discontinuity of the art on the wall changing to Thoughtseize when the zoom in cut happened has distracted me significantly enough to comment.

@ShatterPalm 3 года назад

An appreciation for thoughtsieze was what led me to my prefered playstyle: Midrange. Back when I was first really getting into magic and looking up professional decklists, I eventually ran across a list for Modern Jund from one of the world championship, Ken Watanabe's I think. Out of everything on that decklist, I understood the purpose of the hand disruption cards LONG before I ever understood the worth of most of the rest of the spells on that list (it is actually embarassing how long it took me to figure out that tarmagoyf was good)

@kogai311 3 года назад

I love these intermediate level videos, they really help bridge the gap between learning the game and learning to win the game

@arkealunas4043 3 года назад

Thank you so much for this!!! I love all your content, but the Tolarian Tutor series is by far my favorite!! 🧡💙

@danieldeckard3370 3 года назад

Something that could make for a good video later on would be this, anytime I'm playing in a tournament at any level I write down any card I see go into an opponent's hand. For example, cards like Goblin Guide, Militia Bugler, etc. but also anything I see with Thoughtseize, Duress, etc. but don't forget to cross it out/erase it if they cast it (unless you notice it has a different art than the one you already saw). This is really helpful for making decisions later in the game.

@mattpk1609 3 года назад

As dire as the MtG landscape might be i'm always glad for safe havens like TCC to enjoy it.

@EarlNimbud 3 года назад

LOVED this episode. the breakdown and deep dive on these lines were so insightful and helpful, thank you

@TolarianCommunityCollege 3 года назад

So glad!

@thekitchenchikens 3 года назад

Been playing a lot of mono black discard in historic lately. Always good to refresh the basics. Thanks Prof!

@TheBloodGod8 3 года назад

A new Tolarian Tutor video? Great to see this series still going! I used these videos as a good starting point when I was learning more about how to play Magic

@TolarianCommunityCollege 3 года назад

More to come!

@TheBloodGod8 3 года назад

@@TolarianCommunityCollege I'm excited to see what you have planned!

@Aldrnari956 3 года назад

Hey, the Prof is teaching people how to use the thing in MTG I hate the most. Thanks, Prof! Now I get to play against hand disruption non-stop on arena for the next couple weeks.

@ericwaraujo 3 года назад

These are the types of videos that brought me to this channel. Thanks for bringing them back Prof. (And, yes, I also really appreciate your willingness to call out the mistakes that have been happening in magic. To be continued...)

@justinrose6911 3 года назад

I am so glad to see this series continue! I love it! Keep it up, Prof!

@jacobb6435 3 года назад

This is a great idea for a new series I think, I appreciate hearing some of the finer points of tactics and would like to see other topics explored. Keep up the great work I love what you're putting out

@KiraKibosh 3 года назад

TOLARIAN TUTOR! This series is how I found your channel. I'd love to see more of these in the future!

@TolarianCommunityCollege 3 года назад

More to come!

@thoreal6587 3 года назад

Thank you for making this video, I have been trying to teach people how to more effectively play the game, and this packs up any knowledge I could attempt to give them in a concise manner

@jdcaporali 3 года назад

This is one of your best videos, Professor! Thanks a lot for sharing this amazing information. I will watch it several times because there's a ton to learn!

@TolarianCommunityCollege 3 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@AIMLESS-NAMELESS 3 года назад

This is exactly the video I’ve been looking for! Thanks for the quality content as always

@richardpaley 3 года назад

Great to see this back was as informative as ever and am looking forward to the next.

@hearsyourgear4335 3 года назад

you should do more of these videos rather than product reviews because I feel this is where you really shine

@petrkovacs3191 3 года назад

I´m just making UB Control and this episode was very useful. Thank you prof.!

@KalElelVigilant 3 года назад

A very, very interesting video. Love watching you positively adding to the game and players, Prof.

@untrustworthyshelfing9953 3 года назад

Really good job with this one. Clear objectives, well-taught.

@NerdPhil 3 года назад

Hand Disruption has 2 upsides: Revealing information and removing a threat. Cons: It can cost life and you may not develop your own board. Overall: Cheap hand disruptions have immense value. Expensive hand disruptions needs to be played at a time when you're already ahead. Great vid!

@selkokieli843 3 года назад

another con is when the opponent has no good cards in hand (or none at all!) in jund mirrors it's often a good idea to sideboard your hand disruption away to instead have cards that will always do something after both players go into top decking.

@NerdPhil 3 года назад

@@selkokieli843 That's a good point. I totally forgot you can whiff at times.

@sethlarson9433 3 года назад

Great lesson prof! Looking forward to more of these in the future.

@BackyardRonin 3 года назад

Nice definitely one of my favourite series from TCC. Collabs between prof and Emma always seem really well thought out

@son_of_thor8448 3 года назад

Love this!!! Keep up the good work guys! It’s nice to focus on gameplay

@davidoconnor3664 3 года назад

I miss the old learning videos and super indebth deck strategy (old affinity video, got me to buy the deck, to bad months later mox was ban) please continue these sorts of videos. Always amazing to see u bro

@jefffu3820 3 года назад

Thanks for the tips! I always hate dealing with hand disruption, but I love black. This will definitely help me both defensively and offencively.

@User__Not__Found 3 года назад

This is the best video I've seen you put out in a while! I hope you're doing well, thank you for this great explanation :)

@thomasorourke8065 3 года назад

Totally going to go over some of the other episodes now! Thanks proff

@michaelwright248 3 года назад

Great episode prof. Looking forward to more in the series.

@luke1x 3 года назад

Glad to see another one of these videos! Keep up the great work!

@theADHDGames 3 года назад

This video was absolutely fantastic. Super helpful

@Aguila1138 3 года назад

Prof! I love this style of video! And coincidentally I've recently been thinking about my Pioneer decks that use Thoughtseize and how to play that card better

@rando7096 3 года назад

This series is how I found your channel..thanks for remembering and expanding upon it :)

@TolarianCommunityCollege 3 года назад

Welcome!

@backtosquarefun 3 года назад

Such great information to share with everyone. Thanks again PROF!!!

@Insanir 3 года назад

Many years ago, in a time before Thoughtseize, I played a somewhat budget MBC in my game store. My deck was full of Black Rituals, Duress, Kozilek's Inquisitions, Cabal Therapies and Mesmeric Fiends. I once won against Reanimator with an opponent's Iona on black on the battlefield. I managed to race him down with 2 Vampire Nighthawks. It is my personal wartime story :D

@cinnamonhenke2143 3 года назад

Thank you! That was very helpful! I love these type of videos. You and your team do a great job.

@TolarianCommunityCollege 3 года назад

Our pleasure!

@etheos90 3 года назад

Loving Tolarian Tutor, especially with my favorite all-time card

@harrycraig7794 3 года назад

Soooo glad to see this video, since my Neheb the Worthy edh deck depends on hand disruption!

@RyeFields 3 года назад

Your 8 rack video years ago made me a dirty rack player, but I've now moved to legacy with pox. Thank you for showing me the light in how to become a better evil player.

@RichardSmith-fm1ul 3 года назад

As always great installment! Loved this lesson, I have recently bought into the pieces to play this strategy. You could have not picked a better time to make this video!

@AG-up7ph 3 года назад

I love how the picture changes in the background throughout the video. It really seized my thoughts.

@ewoudhoudt9205 3 года назад

Thoughtsieze is good in edh as well to fish out those nasty counters.

@wynterz_7744 3 года назад

It's less effective because there is 4 players and it only tagets one though

@DrMonty-ng5fo 3 года назад

In that case, silence or veil of summer would serve you better.

@camj1758 3 года назад

Vicious rumors is for this but they choose what to discard and mill 1

@DrMonty-ng5fo 3 года назад

@@camj1758 Well in this context, they would just discard something other then a counterspell. But yes, vicious rumours is a solid 3 for 1.

@chezpizza3869 3 года назад

I love these tactic videos. I wish there was more videos like this that delve into other mechanics (especially set specific mechanics).

@TolarianCommunityCollege 3 года назад

Glad you like them!

@chezpizza3869 3 года назад

@@TolarianCommunityCollege i love them. They have totally improved my game and my deck building skills.

@xChikyx 3 года назад

this was really useful. I play a Nath discard commander, and sometimes I have no idea what's best to discard

@canadianham 3 года назад

Oh man its nice to see tolarian tutor. I am really excited to see more.

@jameswilson4328 3 года назад

More of these! And might I suggest a video on Prison effects, soft and hard locks in constructed formats, how to play/sequence them, and how to interact with them!

@zrinkobaricevic642 3 года назад

Hey Prof, as somebody who played Death's shadow for as long as it was a deck, I really liked this video! Could you do more of them? for example, on different counterspells and how o best use them, flash creatures, aether vial,... Will watch with great interest the TT!

@forpeanutjelly4323 3 года назад

It's been a while since I've last watched a video by the professor with the pandemic and all. Glad to have the time to catchup to all these great videos.

@TolarianCommunityCollege 3 года назад

Welcome back! :)

@er00ic 3 года назад

I'm just glad to see you continuing this series.

@kunu9051 3 года назад

As a general rule I would add that taking a snapcaster mage is usually the correct choice. Because if you take another spell they will just be able to flash it back.

@supernoodles908 3 года назад

Remove value engines

@janktribal9238 3 года назад

I love tolarian tutor! Glad to see it back.

@hiygamer 3 года назад

I'll be looking forward to seeing what else you cover in future episodes.

@LArchimage 3 года назад

Really glad to see this series is back! :)

@Chaoslizard 3 года назад

High quality video, Thanks Prof!

@JaimeAGB-pt4xl 3 года назад

I remember a deck I build back in original Zendikar, the strategy revolved on Liliana's Caress x4 and Bloodchiefx4 Ascension at the beginning of the game, the putting painful quandry x2 in play, while the rest of the deck was discard from hand and removal effects ... eventually I would game life for every card sent to the graveyard from anywhere, or even if they managed to play the card... Super Fun when everything worked but it was Hard to do so.... Fun times still

@AZDeathMetal 3 года назад

I love your channel so much. :) You are appreciated!

@enigmasshadow9435 3 года назад

Been awhile since you did a Tolrian Tutor video. Yay!

@TheAmericanDragn 3 года назад

Boy, it's good to see one of these again. It's been awhile. :)

@tempestofthought 3 года назад

Really like this series, glad it's back

@FenristheWhiteWolf 3 года назад

Love to see this kind of content. As you can always learn something interesting when it comes to Magic the Gathering

@TolarianCommunityCollege 3 года назад

Glad you enjoy it! More to come!

@horsesattack 3 года назад

This is a great episode 😀 I’m learning something

@joseluki 3 года назад

This is a cool format, good job!

@seyproductions 3 года назад

As an 8+ Rack player, I approve of this lesson. Nice to see a video under this series again.

@Rayalda 3 года назад

Yes! So happy that Tolarian Tutor is back!

@AtrociousNightmare Год назад

13:59 made me laugh IRL so much xD delivery was perfect haha

@augustw7710 3 года назад

YES! Finally another Tolarian Tutor episode!!

@magicbknight8024 3 года назад

Great video, love that this series is coming back

@TolarianCommunityCollege 3 года назад

Us too!

@ApoEdvarg 3 года назад

Really glad this series is back :)

@ChaosHedgehog2 3 года назад

It's great to see this back!

@kingsnogaryen6292 3 года назад

Brilliant card tech! Great work!

@TolarianCommunityCollege 3 года назад

Thank you! Cheers!

@efiras5041 3 года назад

YES! finally a video that will help me to master my tinybones deck, thanks Tolarian ❤

@chrismaxwell3001 3 года назад

Yay! Great vid refocus. More please. 🤗

@TheOneTrueEfrate 3 года назад

My favorite hand disruption was in black summer. t1 swamp dark ritual dark ritual hymn to tourach hypnotic spectre go.

@ianoneill8392 3 года назад

I play 4 thoughtseize and 3 agonizing remorse in Historic Black devotion. Pretty pleased that I’ve picked up some of these tricks just through experience, but I do still have a tendency to go go for the bombs over enablers. I think that’s more correct than usual in this case though, since it’s a control deck.