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Tom Dwan Finally Agrees to Pay 

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Update - Tom Dwan has agreed to pay all of the claimed debts by Peter Jetten after arbitration. This video covers his shaky responses to the several unpaid debt claims made by other poker players.
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@AlexDuvall
@AlexDuvall 3 месяца назад
This follow-up video took FAR longer than expected due to how difficult the interviews were to get through haha enjoy... #grumpy
@velipulla3936
@velipulla3936 3 месяца назад
First to speculate about this comment!
@michaelstephens9852
@michaelstephens9852 3 месяца назад
Great work!
@TOM-C.
@TOM-C. 3 месяца назад
I watched the entire interview over on Nick's vlog, and I too am on the fence. Tom was entirely unforthcoming in his diatribe about his debt woes. The entire interview provided no conclusion to any of his accused debts, and I'm still at the same point, mentally, I was at before the interview, what a waste of everyone's time! 👍😎✌🗽
@D.D.-ud9zt
@D.D.-ud9zt 3 месяца назад
In the dim-lit room where shadows play, Tom Dwan lingered, debts to repay. But Gramma, a figure with tales untold, Stood firm and resolute, fearless and bold. A gangster's guise, with a heart of steel, Gramma approached, with a silent appeal. Tom Dwan quivered, his bravado gone, As Gramma's presence lingered on. "Settle your debts," Gramma's voice rang clear, A warning to heed, a reckoning near. For in the world of cards and bets, Debts unpaid lead to deep regrets. Tom Dwan, once defiant, now faced his fate, As Gramma's gaze left him in a state. With a nod and a gesture, he conceded defeat, His debts settled, his honor complete. For in the realm of poker's sway, It's not just about the games we play. It's about honor, respect, and trust, And facing one's debts, no matter the cost.
@brianwilson7624
@brianwilson7624 3 месяца назад
Tom is so good at bluffing not even he knows if he is telling the truth. What a legend.
@BigL718
@BigL718 3 месяца назад
Like a cop
@nyrangersfan4578
@nyrangersfan4578 3 месяца назад
Vertucci is a real life Doctor Evil, stroking his cat during the interview.
@AlexDuvall
@AlexDuvall 3 месяца назад
lol
@bbbbBEOTCH
@bbbbBEOTCH 3 месяца назад
😂😂 hes the type of dude u send out for some cocaine and he ends up in a hotel with ur chick and the drugs lol
@timothykyllonen9628
@timothykyllonen9628 3 месяца назад
Hilarious
@internetguyfromtheinternet
@internetguyfromtheinternet 3 месяца назад
you can learn a lot about a man by the way he strokes his cat
@herokillerinc
@herokillerinc 3 месяца назад
​@internetguyfromtheinternet that's what SHE said😂
@quokka_11
@quokka_11 3 месяца назад
Are we not gonna talk about Dwan making the world look up his nose while he does his Elizabeth Holmes impression?
@PokrPro21
@PokrPro21 3 месяца назад
💯
@bogdans1343
@bogdans1343 3 месяца назад
Yeah!, he’s definitely deep in debt….and you have to be nice to him to get your money back!
@newlyborncorn
@newlyborncorn 3 месяца назад
Don't bite the hand that feeds you
@PedroTRamos1
@PedroTRamos1 3 месяца назад
Apparently hes just as good at bluffing his opponents off felt as he is on the felt.
@um8440
@um8440 3 месяца назад
Tom is a scammer dude, 12years and no payment?
@meepk633
@meepk633 3 месяца назад
What if you had your own friends and emotional life to participate in? Do you think you'd still be here getting performatively angry about the debts of total strangers?
@epauloconnor
@epauloconnor 3 месяца назад
Tom Dwan is a perfect example of why I'll NEVER loan money that I'm not willing to NEVER see again or that I wouldn't be willing to just gift. Because there is usually only a 10% chance you'll ever see that money again.
@brickcitybeatdown
@brickcitybeatdown 20 дней назад
The 5 bucks you have to loan
@SlowMoebius
@SlowMoebius 3 месяца назад
Tom is a weasel.
@jaydiaz2
@jaydiaz2 3 месяца назад
Yep, even looks like one
@simonlong2305
@simonlong2305 3 месяца назад
He does seem a weasely
@oreocarlton3343
@oreocarlton3343 3 месяца назад
Not by nature, but eventually he developed the private jets and prostitutes lifestyle that put people in debt
@simonlong2305
@simonlong2305 3 месяца назад
@@oreocarlton3343 I am very interested in this lifestyle stuff as regards Dwan. Where do you find stories. I’m no saint myself so it’s not just purience. Thanks
@oreocarlton3343
@oreocarlton3343 3 месяца назад
@@simonlong2305 I've read a comment saying that lol, it does check out
@johngleue
@johngleue 3 месяца назад
So you borrow money and then not pay them back until they get justifiably upset about not being paid back, and then you can just refuse to pay them back for being so "uncool"?
@SerErryk
@SerErryk 3 месяца назад
This is how weasels operate. They will always make you out to be the bad guy.
@genehanlon-lake9774
@genehanlon-lake9774 3 месяца назад
That’s the gist of it from what I can tell
@DeeP-_PerspectivE
@DeeP-_PerspectivE 3 месяца назад
Dwan has gone down hill, he has double bags under his eyes permanently and is probably full Degen status. Stimulants and poker all hours of the day chasing a rush whether he loses or wins. GG Durr you fell for the professional gambler meme
@newlyborncorn
@newlyborncorn 3 месяца назад
Dwan is a cool guy. He shouldn't have to pay IMO. Not if Peter's being a dick.
@johngleue
@johngleue 3 месяца назад
@newlyborncorn If you borrow money, you pay it back. It's that simple. Even if you borrow money from a dick. That dick lent you money, didn't he?
@theMaster...
@theMaster... 3 месяца назад
Dwan came across as extremely dodgy and a bit of a Scumbag to be honest.
@markfromct2
@markfromct2 3 месяца назад
Yes Mr. Master. I agree. I actually liked him and respected his awesome reads and bluffs on the table. Guess his reads and bluffs extend beyond the felt.
@TheTastefulThickness
@TheTastefulThickness 3 месяца назад
When someone so obviously scummy has normies thinking, "might be dodgy tbh" these are the times i know im a genius.
@DeeP-_PerspectivE
@DeeP-_PerspectivE 3 месяца назад
Dwan has gone down hill, he has double bags under his eyes permanently and is probably full Degen status. Stimulants and poker all hours of the day chasing a rush whether he loses or wins. GG Durr you fell for the professional gambler meme
@user-fq5bw5uf1i
@user-fq5bw5uf1i 3 месяца назад
@@DeeP-_PerspectivE I don't have too much of an opinion about Tom Dwan, but your statement is pure subjective claims with no ground for evidence. Does this shit bubble out of your brain regulary. Scary.
@DeeP-_PerspectivE
@DeeP-_PerspectivE 3 месяца назад
@@user-fq5bw5uf1i Yes it does, hence my name : ) Although I'm usually pretty accurate on my shit bubbled calls/reads
@FraggerM8
@FraggerM8 3 месяца назад
"doubt Tom has done anything malicious" dawg...
@rolirolster
@rolirolster 3 месяца назад
I can't imagine someone owing me 400 grand, winning 3.5 million, and me letting them walk away without them paying me every penny back.
@blueelephant4971
@blueelephant4971 3 месяца назад
They could walk away but they'd be walking to the hospital-if they could still walk that is.
@ashotofconfidencemusic5819
@ashotofconfidencemusic5819 3 месяца назад
Tom definitely didn't win 3.5 million though. He likely only had a very small piece of the action so only actually won a small portion of that large pot.
@XiagraBalls
@XiagraBalls 3 месяца назад
@@ashotofconfidencemusic5819Yeah, then it gets complex. If he'd paid off H next to him, he would have peed off his backers, right? But then he could also have just lied about how much he'd been backed to stop H claiming back his $400k there and then, rt?
@Esoterik_NW
@Esoterik_NW 3 месяца назад
Clearly you don’t understand makeup or the many flaws in Jettens statements.
@jwr3289
@jwr3289 3 месяца назад
I don't understand the makeup though, so he owes Tom over 1 mill only if he wins but is never winning? I ain't being funny but if he owed me 1 million and then started griping about 250 I'd be pretty pissed off
@adoredpariah
@adoredpariah 3 месяца назад
Is Tom's belt buckle also his phone/camera? What kind of angle is that?
@curthennig9448
@curthennig9448 3 месяца назад
It's a Mike Postle fan cam.
@tr0wb3d3r5
@tr0wb3d3r5 3 месяца назад
😂😂😂😂
@SuperMofaux
@SuperMofaux 3 месяца назад
There are two ways to lose a friend. One is to borrow, the other to lend.
@DubYuhGChoppa
@DubYuhGChoppa 3 месяца назад
Your channel made me aware of competitive poker drama 3 days ago and I'm already super invested lol. Keep up the great work g it helps the newbies like me especially a lot
@AlexDuvall
@AlexDuvall 3 месяца назад
Haha amazing love to see this... welcome brother
@DubYuhGChoppa
@DubYuhGChoppa 3 месяца назад
@AlexDuvall I just tried playing Texas Holdem on the WSOP app for chips that aren't worth anything and it was already intense. Can't imagine how people hold it down live with massive pots on the line but I'm definitely here to learn
@DubYuhGChoppa
@DubYuhGChoppa 3 месяца назад
@@AlexDuvall really appreciate you🙏
@TheWaitingRoomTWR
@TheWaitingRoomTWR 3 месяца назад
Tom is a great story to show your kids of why not to gamble.
@330miggs
@330miggs 3 месяца назад
15" POKER HAAAAARRRRDDD
@RecoveredRidleyTruther
@RecoveredRidleyTruther 3 месяца назад
Eh, he's also one of the greatest cash game players ever...but not a great money manager
@gesus.christ99
@gesus.christ99 3 месяца назад
it's polarizing, he's in the top 3 live cash player of all time but olso he's a dickhead gambler who plays out of bankroll
@binhhuynh5979
@binhhuynh5979 3 месяца назад
Gambling is fine but just make sure you don't make a bet your ass can't cash.
@josephmcbrien7646
@josephmcbrien7646 3 месяца назад
​@@binhhuynh5979that's why I always bet my ass
@bazzza4613
@bazzza4613 3 месяца назад
Tom owns me 10$ for a beer in 2008
@brickcitybeatdown
@brickcitybeatdown 20 дней назад
So does your mom
@ImWatchingYou2012
@ImWatchingYou2012 3 месяца назад
Rule of thumb .. never loan money.
@rickystephenson518
@rickystephenson518 3 месяца назад
To Tom
@eelsify
@eelsify 3 месяца назад
@@rickystephenson518 never loan money to a gambler
@alleneng
@alleneng 3 месяца назад
to anyone thats not your immediate family
@GTFBITK
@GTFBITK 3 месяца назад
If you loan money. Ask for collateral.
@Jackaroo.
@Jackaroo. 3 месяца назад
Never loan money ever. If your family needs money, give it to them as a gift, and if they pay it back, cool, if they don't that's ok, but they will never get another dime going forward.@@alleneng
@nicholi2789
@nicholi2789 3 месяца назад
What grown man uses the word grumpy so often to describe their interactions with other grown men?
@AlexDuvall
@AlexDuvall 3 месяца назад
Don’t be grumpy
@nicholi2789
@nicholi2789 3 месяца назад
@@AlexDuvall Listening to Tom’s incomprehensible babbling is making me grumpy..
@simonlong2305
@simonlong2305 3 месяца назад
I think grumpy is becoming “ a thing” in poker and other circles
@Felix0770
@Felix0770 3 месяца назад
Hey Alex I see the Maryland flag in the background. Do you play at Maryland L!VE?
@DeeP-_PerspectivE
@DeeP-_PerspectivE 3 месяца назад
Dwan has gone down hill, he has double bags under his eyes permanently and is probably full Degen status. Stimulants and poker all hours of the day chasing a rush whether he loses or wins. GG Durr you fell for the professional gambler meme
@sup3rshe3p20
@sup3rshe3p20 3 месяца назад
Haralabos body language when Tom is scooping 3.1 million pot is priceless lol
@KarLetroN
@KarLetroN 3 месяца назад
The worst part is how he can barely get a sentence out without some pathetic chuckle that makes him come across incoherent.
@mydemon
@mydemon Месяц назад
Stress. Shame. Guilt.
@jeffreyjoseph2737
@jeffreyjoseph2737 3 месяца назад
Good video. I think someone else said it, but i literally stumbled upon this, and you have good content. Keep it up
@1xavi2
@1xavi2 3 месяца назад
After watching this im confident that Tom Dwan is grumpy
@anthonyf596
@anthonyf596 3 месяца назад
Grumpy is one of the nicer things id call him
@curthennig9448
@curthennig9448 3 месяца назад
He should be Trump's VP. Dodge debt.
@TraumaER
@TraumaER 3 месяца назад
@@curthennig9448trump is way more honest than Dwan.
@curthennig9448
@curthennig9448 3 месяца назад
@@TraumaER Are you sure? Trump should take up Poker instead of golfing all the time.
@joeshields2005
@joeshields2005 3 месяца назад
@@curthennig9448Tom should replace “Heels up Harris “ as vice president. I’m sure he can do more than just awkwardly laugh at everything lol
@TraumaER
@TraumaER 3 месяца назад
Dwan is a modern day Ungar minus the skill and personality.
@parthenocarpySA
@parthenocarpySA 3 месяца назад
The common traits are...????
@TraumaER
@TraumaER 3 месяца назад
@@parthenocarpySAdegenerate, dishonest about debts, not as good as advertised long term, bad hygiene, drug use.
@darylmixan8170
@darylmixan8170 3 месяца назад
​@@parthenocarpySAmassive massive drug use
@sharthun2009
@sharthun2009 3 месяца назад
Tom is just practicing giving answer to a Senate Hearing Committee on Capitol Hill.
@CrimsonWulph
@CrimsonWulph 3 месяца назад
I went to Boston University with Tom. Over the short period we were there together he “borrowed” about $4500 from me to gamble online. Doesn’t seem like much but it was at the time for me as it was about 50% of my net worth. He always promised to pay me back. Over and over again. Until i got completely ghosted when he dropped out. Never saw or heard from the dude again. Next thing i know hes winning multi million dollar hands and im still struggling with money to feed my kids
@matthewwestcott9138
@matthewwestcott9138 3 месяца назад
Wow, that's truly awful. Thanks for sharing, what an absolute scumbag. I got strong compulsive liar vibes from him in these recent interviews. Also, deadbeat vibes. Once you've seen one dickhead act like this, it's easy to spot.
@USMCLib3rty
@USMCLib3rty 3 месяца назад
Imagine lending 50% of your net worth to
@elasticharmony
@elasticharmony 3 месяца назад
He owes my friend Mickey mouse cause all that money he wins is his!
@larrywheels762
@larrywheels762 3 месяца назад
Unreal. The mob should collect plus interest. This Dwan dude is a scumbag.
@Forgetaboutit166
@Forgetaboutit166 3 месяца назад
Tom finessed you my boy
@YoungCub
@YoungCub 3 месяца назад
0:21 do you owe him 226k? Dwan: “so…….” 🤦
@user-cv6vw3ek1p
@user-cv6vw3ek1p 3 месяца назад
All the high stakes and winning million dollars is a facade, all these guys are backed by rich guys and the high roller players could be just there for TV time. Do not ever risk 100k or million bucks on games. Thats insane. REspect money and play 2/5 or 5/10 for the love of the game
@TheBroadwood
@TheBroadwood 3 месяца назад
This is the way.
@Randy1337
@Randy1337 3 месяца назад
No, that is not true. Jean Robert Bellande is a billionaire, just like Tom Dwan is
@YoungCub
@YoungCub 3 месяца назад
Big fucking facts.
@terrys394
@terrys394 3 месяца назад
If this doesn't convince you to never loan money to gamblers nothing will.
@daredevil5371
@daredevil5371 3 месяца назад
ty Alex for making it clear i was so confused by the amount of people hes in debt too. Tom owes people money end of story. bro cant keep his word its crazy
@mike111202
@mike111202 3 месяца назад
tom looks geeked out on addies.
@nathanl3792
@nathanl3792 3 месяца назад
Tom borrowed my girlfriend and called her his wife !
@simonlong2305
@simonlong2305 3 месяца назад
Is this true? Or a joke? If true more details would be fun. If a joke it’s a pretty good one?
@fraddstar
@fraddstar 3 месяца назад
This was a brilliant summary, thanks for the video ! Don't lend money to gamblers ladies and gentlemen. Or better don't lend money to anyone.
@jd31068
@jd31068 3 месяца назад
This guy has balls, he decides he doesn't need to pay if the person he told he would payback doesn't act nice? da foq Dwan going all Eric Lindgren
@PokerPillar
@PokerPillar 3 месяца назад
Alex, there is a really loud flag in your background. You might want to turn it down a bit next time.
@alleneng
@alleneng 3 месяца назад
theses a clear lesson to be learned here. Dont lend money. pretty simple
@AirgunJohnny
@AirgunJohnny 3 месяца назад
So what can we gleam from all of this? Have your staking and gambling pieces held in escrow or something of that nature
@xavierm4866
@xavierm4866 3 месяца назад
Please work on NOT sounding monotone. Couldn't finish video because of that issue.
@virajdharmarathne1901
@virajdharmarathne1901 3 месяца назад
I remember once phill hemsworth said to tom” kid u gonna be broke soon” after a hand showdown
@andrewmartin7697
@andrewmartin7697 3 месяца назад
Ya he said “we’ll see if you’ll even be around in 10 years” Hellmuth was kind of half right. Dwan is still relevant in poker but not in the way he would have hoped/used to be. And ya he seems over his head in debt.
@estelaguarda5423
@estelaguarda5423 3 месяца назад
He ain't broke though, that's why it is frustrating for these guys he owed money too cause he has the capability to pay, he just don't want to, the high stakes lifestyle consumed him I guess.
@darylmixan8170
@darylmixan8170 3 месяца назад
Loaning large sums USED to be a norm back in the day before easy access to funds... When cash was at home, invested, or at a bank... Now its Very Very hard to understand how and why gamblers loan large amounts... I understand in private games where cash isnt on the table and debts settled within 3 days, but loaning isn't necessary as much.
@guybrushthreepwood8174
@guybrushthreepwood8174 3 месяца назад
It's as if there is a reason why entities draw up written legal contracts when 100s of thousands or even millions of dollars exchange hands for loan purposes.
@PaddyRoon7
@PaddyRoon7 3 месяца назад
"Well if you're not gonna be nice (by letting me keep avoiding payment and jerking you around forever) then I don't owe you anything" Dwan is not a stupid guy, he knows that logic is complete and utter bs. You think he's never borrowed money from anyone who was willing to force him to pay? You think he pulled that shit with them? The reason he's making that argument is that he knows he can get away with it. He's just a standard gambling addict these days, and he should be blacklisted from every casino + poker event until he pays his debts.
@andrewmartin7697
@andrewmartin7697 3 месяца назад
Complete BS! He’s just taking advantage of the fact these guys aren’t going to do anything besides talks shit about him
@blackbond2406
@blackbond2406 3 месяца назад
This whole buying peoples action and lending money is the problem.. if the steaks are too high for you, take it down a notch lol I don’t see why these players are too stubborn to play lower limits with full equity of their money on the table
@ChonkySlotDonkey
@ChonkySlotDonkey 3 месяца назад
lmao the saga continues
@9outs553
@9outs553 3 месяца назад
They need start writing these deals on paper.
@Flyfishingguy1994
@Flyfishingguy1994 3 месяца назад
Man this bums me out, durrr has always been one of my favs.
@schmuckpuppet4842
@schmuckpuppet4842 3 месяца назад
Yeah same here. He probably has some expensive hobbies like sports gambling and other stupid stuff. If he had just focused on his game he would have gone on to absolutely personify the game of poker, but I guess even that's not enough. We always want more.
@Pluralofvinylisvinyls
@Pluralofvinylisvinyls 3 месяца назад
Yeah I liked him too. This doesn’t necessarily make him a bad guy. No one knows what’s going on in his life right now. He could be battling addiction or mental illness. The pro poker player lifestyle takes its toll if you’re not taking care of yourself
@MrFurley2u
@MrFurley2u 3 месяца назад
Not me, those deer in the headlights eyes tells a lot of stories, awkward, untrustworthy, and very slippery!
@ericwong3868
@ericwong3868 3 месяца назад
@@schmuckpuppet4842doesn’t it look like he aged very fast. He looks like a baby in the Hellmuth clip
@Flyfishingguy1994
@Flyfishingguy1994 3 месяца назад
@@Pluralofvinylisvinyls for sure! I haven't turned on the guy out right or nothing. Just sucks!
@tenningale
@tenningale 3 месяца назад
Don't lend money. If you have money, don't let people know.
@jasonsmith1288
@jasonsmith1288 2 месяца назад
Ive been told stories about some of these big time poker players losing big money and then playing 18 -24 hrs straight trying to get the money back
@jessicaleung6085
@jessicaleung6085 3 месяца назад
The camera view of Tom's crooked nose makes him look like Pinnochio while HE'S spewing lies.
@colemarbosili3405
@colemarbosili3405 3 месяца назад
How he end up like that?
@spiderdog74
@spiderdog74 3 месяца назад
You've really got some people worked up. Malcontents make for good engagement! 🤘🏻
@Leifmommy
@Leifmommy 3 месяца назад
Tom Dwan can't pay them because he is broke how he able to pay each of them when he's broke But how they loaned him a money anyways right Bob asked to make a sports betting dunno what exactly their agreement he mentioned that he got in trouble with that he end up losing money because he got investigated
@jimmyjambon9206
@jimmyjambon9206 3 месяца назад
This is crazy to me. You don't clear up those kind of numbers where I come from, then you are straight up going to be taking the room temperature challenge.
@natew8882
@natew8882 3 месяца назад
Why would you want to reduce your chances of getting your money back to zero?
@jimmyjambon9206
@jimmyjambon9206 3 месяца назад
@@natew8882 In business you inevitably take losses. Rolling a deadbeat up in a blue tarp is a good business decision in that it helps to ensure future losses to be less frequent. "Anybody seen Billy?, haven't seen him in a while..."..."no, me neither. I heard he owed Jimmy and he vanished..".
@Yourfavoritedealer
@Yourfavoritedealer 3 месяца назад
This is a lot of poker pros. More then you guys think.
@4thandinches
@4thandinches 28 дней назад
Which makes the term "poker pro", an oxymoron.
@SS-br5ff
@SS-br5ff 3 месяца назад
I hate that one of my biggest inspirations in poker has gone down this path
@davidbrackney289
@davidbrackney289 3 месяца назад
Tom Dwan walking around joking as though it isn't that serious. Perhaps he'd feel different if someone like KGB or Grama gave him a little reminder that payment is due.
@D.D.-ud9zt
@D.D.-ud9zt 3 месяца назад
Sell his debt to Grandma.
@YoungCub
@YoungCub 3 месяца назад
@@D.D.-ud9ztlmao ahahahahaha Thank you for this contribution
@Mitjitsu
@Mitjitsu 3 месяца назад
It could be Tom Dwan is broke and relies on backers. So only has a small piece of himself in those big games, or he lives a high maintenance lifestyle. So his winnings are barely enough to keep him afloat.
@noelsen1337
@noelsen1337 3 месяца назад
Tom still one of the biggest legends. Dude it's poker, a lot of people lend money to each other. For example giving Isildur1 a Million when he is on tilt do you think is a good idea?
@idonttext9783
@idonttext9783 3 месяца назад
Its a complicated backing issue
@AlexDuvall
@AlexDuvall 3 месяца назад
Yes
@lexbraxman9270
@lexbraxman9270 3 месяца назад
TBH Tom is one of the last few big name poker players who I would think is in debt or has no integrity. He always seemed solid
@Numberonechesspest
@Numberonechesspest 21 день назад
I guess I could of seen this coming the way he played 64 off suit back in the day
@iankavanagh1385
@iankavanagh1385 3 месяца назад
He would make a good politician
@zachdelong1039
@zachdelong1039 3 месяца назад
Since we talking about it Tom owes me $4.54 and 2 sticks of double mint gum. I want my money man! Where’s my money man?
@epauloconnor
@epauloconnor 3 месяца назад
Anyone that loans Tom Dwan money in the future, only has theirselves to blame.
@richboyprado
@richboyprado 3 месяца назад
People adding interest to “just owe me”
@ramprat5812
@ramprat5812 3 месяца назад
lol not quite the same as floating a buddy $20
@Vietboy004
@Vietboy004 3 месяца назад
He looks exactly like a friend i know runs from his debts and people have to keep asking and chasing him for their money this is mess up
@johnkim8907
@johnkim8907 3 месяца назад
Tom lost his whole bankroll against Chinese poker players while he was in Macau. Tom thought he could beat Chinese poker players ended up losing his whole bankroll.
@MrHahaJayuman
@MrHahaJayuman 3 месяца назад
Why is your second sentence just a synonym for the first sentence? In other words, you only needed one sentence.
@f.g.h604
@f.g.h604 3 месяца назад
Because he is chinese
@DeVinschi
@DeVinschi 3 месяца назад
Same applies to you 😂
@nqtien310
@nqtien310 3 месяца назад
hahahahm.... lollll@@DeVinschi
@herokillerinc
@herokillerinc 3 месяца назад
​@@MrHahaJayuman😂😂😂 see what he did? 😂😂😂
@cronstrubzo
@cronstrubzo 3 месяца назад
i used to look up to this guy when i was young.. so sad to see the other side of him
@drbryant23
@drbryant23 3 месяца назад
Did these guys lend Dwan money without a signed promissory note? That is foolish.
@donaldmurphy3212
@donaldmurphy3212 3 месяца назад
They all got durrrrrrrred..
@johnd5619
@johnd5619 3 месяца назад
LOL wtf is a guarantee if its not paying the money?
@MrMarco855
@MrMarco855 3 месяца назад
The part that's too cringe for me is, how can you owe a sizable amount, then show up and play at the same table with the guy you owe, as if there is no debt? I'd be way too uncomfortable if I was the guy that owed the money, way too tempted to deposit a boot in the ass if I was the guy that was stuck.
@ChrisSuswal-de9tj
@ChrisSuswal-de9tj 3 месяца назад
They are very strange people. I'd rather deal with mediocre players like myself who don't deal with getting f'd over by people taking advantage of you. Keep everything on the level
@michaelstephens9852
@michaelstephens9852 3 месяца назад
You can't make 2 million on a live stream and not pay back your backers. Obviously, you're gonna look like the bad guy.
@tobiasgeorgi6513
@tobiasgeorgi6513 3 месяца назад
Beautiful camera angle from Tom :)
@AceGibson1959
@AceGibson1959 20 дней назад
I have been playing poker for years, I did take out loans several times. However, I only took loans out if I had enough in my safety deposit box to cover it. Usually when I took out a loan I paid it back within one or two days. Taking out these 6 figure loans seems really insane to me.
@brickcitybeatdown
@brickcitybeatdown 20 дней назад
Cap
@rustycolon9368
@rustycolon9368 3 месяца назад
Degens lending to other degens. What's new?
@dhenbhoy
@dhenbhoy 3 месяца назад
If I was owed 1.6m in make up and the guy was bleating about 2-300k then I'd be pissed as well.
@spleeeen4it
@spleeeen4it 3 месяца назад
You have absolutely no value of money do you. Most people never see ,200 k in their lifetime.
@88mphDrBrown
@88mphDrBrown 3 месяца назад
Make up isn't a normal debt. It isn't a normal loan and they should've come to an agreement about what is owed if he stops staking Peter.
@martinworld7214
@martinworld7214 3 месяца назад
0:38 FFS the only time Vertucci aint getting a massage he's massaging his bloody cat
@markfromct2
@markfromct2 3 месяца назад
Look. Top players are super smart. That is why we created basic laws for loan contracts and courts to uphold them. If I say to you, hey, loan me $100K on a handshake, You would laugh in my face. Enough said.
@Nikodemis
@Nikodemis 3 месяца назад
Tom looks like Mr Bean from underneath
@insomnyteq
@insomnyteq 3 месяца назад
When are people going to learn that being a great poker player mean you are a great person
@jeremyrogers6179
@jeremyrogers6179 3 месяца назад
I'm still confused, does Tom owe Peter or not? 🤔
@ashotofconfidencemusic5819
@ashotofconfidencemusic5819 3 месяца назад
He does owe Peter. The thing is even if Peter is deep in make-up dwan only has three options: He can keep putting Peter into games with hopes that he recoups the makeup (peter can't profit until he gets out of makeup) He can end the deal with Peter and be out the 1.6 million He can end the deal with Peter by selling the makeup to another investor that would take Peter on as a horse. There is not a world where it is okay for tom to just not reimburse peter for tournament entries he had action on
@jamestan4425
@jamestan4425 3 месяца назад
He owes me $985 million , he paid me $90 million only.
@elasticharmony
@elasticharmony 3 месяца назад
If he got kidnapped would his mom pay?
@Pseedholm
@Pseedholm 3 месяца назад
So Peter owes Tom 1.x million, but Tom also owes Pete 250k?
@spuriouseffect
@spuriouseffect 3 месяца назад
Wow. The scumbag calling the kettle black. If I said to someone that I wasn't paying them back unless they were nice about it, I would totally expect them to kick the shit out of me. That's what Tom needs. There is no reason for him to act like this.
@SamHabash
@SamHabash 3 месяца назад
Debts Will Accumulate Neverendingly
@330miggs
@330miggs 3 месяца назад
15" POKER HAAAAARRRRDDD
@drmichaelsunsschoolformath
@drmichaelsunsschoolformath 28 дней назад
Its not as simple as Tom owing ppl, hes disputing these debts and it seems like hes staking and being free rolled as well, "somewhere in between" is such a cop out, hes probably way closer to the honourable side
@YouTubeaidsreal
@YouTubeaidsreal 3 месяца назад
Dont lend gambler's money unless your ok with never seeing it again
@NerdSmuggler
@NerdSmuggler 3 месяца назад
All the debts that seem direct seem to be paid. The messy 3, 4 or 5 way deals are messy and seem to fall on Tom. There have been so many allegations against Tom for 10-15 years, its hard to see his side. But these all dont seem clear other than Jungle
@TheMelvinWei
@TheMelvinWei 3 месяца назад
Sounds like he's been living his whole life off loans from others. No interest, no time limit on repayment, and no beatings.
@Pluralofvinylisvinyls
@Pluralofvinylisvinyls 3 месяца назад
I’ve been taking a break from poker since 2019, including watching it or keeping up with poker news, and I knew there was going to be drama with Tom Dwan when I looked him up. Though I figured he’d just be broke. His style of poker isn’t very sustainable
@curthennig9448
@curthennig9448 3 месяца назад
Hellmuth always told him years ago that we'll see where you're at in 20 years kid.
@Pluralofvinylisvinyls
@Pluralofvinylisvinyls 3 месяца назад
@@curthennig9448 I think I remember hearing him say that, but to be fair, anyone who beats hellmuth gets that speech lol
@oreocarlton3343
@oreocarlton3343 3 месяца назад
​@@curthennig9448well he made cash poker watchable unlike helmuth
@dlove2830
@dlove2830 3 месяца назад
I NEVER loan people money at the poker table...for this very reason.
@martinworld7214
@martinworld7214 3 месяца назад
well that & not having any to lend I guess
@matthewmclean7471
@matthewmclean7471 3 месяца назад
god when they show the reponses from this dude the camera is so shaky it makes me sick
@gophukyurselvs3621
@gophukyurselvs3621 25 дней назад
Tom claiming Jungle Man is acting in good faith is hilarious coming from someone that owes Jungle hundreds of thousands still 😂😂😂😂
@imacarrot6570
@imacarrot6570 3 месяца назад
So wait. Did Tom back Peter in poker and Peter lost 1.6 million of Tom's money? But that doesn't matter unless Tom backs Peter again and then if Peter won he would start paying off the 1.6 million with those winnings? And this process protects a backer? I clearly do not understand.
@88mphDrBrown
@88mphDrBrown 3 месяца назад
It's impossible to understand without knowing the terms of their agreement. Usually staking is just a loss if the player doesn't win. It's the backer betting the stake for x% of the profits. They decided to make it more complex and is impossible to understand without knowing the specifics. It sounds like they didn't come to any specific understanding about make up if their backing relationship ended.
@Just_Pele
@Just_Pele 3 месяца назад
Dwan will pay back the meat but gets butthurt over the juice, that's the simple answer. If he agrees to the interest, that's 100% on him and he must pay it. Yeah, I understand that oftentimes rates in the gambling world can be quite predatory, but I strongly doubt he's agreeing to those types of terms (such as 5% per month). But if people are loaning money without specifying *_exact_* terms, that's on the guy fronting the loan, even if Tom is taking a while to pay back the principle. Don't loan money if you can't handle business and/or can't communicate well.
@Dario.991
@Dario.991 3 месяца назад
I would maybe somewhat believe him if it was a one time thing but bro there' dozens of cases that were brought to public where you owe a big chunk of money to someone so god knows how many more we don't even know of.
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