TOMB RAIDER (Zero Punctuation) 

Montesama314 There's also the fact that by making us play as Lara, we are automatically invested in her survival on some level, if only because she has to survive for us to continue playing. But yeah, all that gratuitous violence that is inflicted on Lara did make me feel kind of dirty and ill, especially since they're all directed like a porno. Get as close as possible, so that we can see every last detail of how that spike penetrates Lara's body. Of course, I still felt more sympathetic towards the villain than Lara by the end, because she's just an awful person in this game...

MoffMupp It's funny how, from my point of view, the game is bigoted towards BOTH sexes. To offend women, it takes a powerful, independent character like LARA FUCKING CROFT and puts her through the "please protect me" filter and displaying-and I can barely bring myself to TYPE this word anymore-misogyny. To offend men, see the example with Lara VS Nathan, and keep in mind that it depicts murder as somehow more acceptable than rape. I don't want, like or care for female protagonists that I have to defend, not even sexually. (I kind of am turned on by the tough ones, so there's a bit of a conflict of interest, but it's working in favor of a good cause, so ignore it if you must) LARA CROFT IS NOT SOMEONE YOU HAVE TO DEFEND!!! SHE IS THE KIND OF LADY WHO GOES IN, MOWS EVERY FUCKING BAD GUY DOWN, AND THEN LEAVES AS THINGS EXPLODE BEHIND HER!!! (I don't remember the tombs exploding behind her, though, so...eh.) SHE IS NOT THE KIND OF PERSON WHO WOULD JUST TAKE ALL OF THIS SHIT!!! *starts foaming at mouth, nose starts bleeding*

It gets even better when you realize the VERY controversial comments about the rape scene that the developers mentioned in an interview on E3. One of the reasons they removed it, they said first: They don't project themselves into the character. They want to protect her/be her little helper compared to being her like all male characters. So yeah... Pretty accurate there. He then goes on to talk about the rape scene. They then take their fuck up and interviewed a woman who was doing part of the development (yes, a paid employee for the company) and had her talk for 45 minutes about how she looked up to Lara Croft and did all her archery because of her. Which I sighed, turned away, and walked from any chance of the game. EDIT: He also said, I can't remember exactly word for word, but traumas like rape make women stronger and better characters.

+Sara Nightfire god this is the only time i would say i have ligitamitly seen sexism forced on a character

For a RU-vid commenter, you have an unusually good point.

@@khamjaninja. I'm currently playing the sequel to the Tomb Raider game (still in the first half of the game, I guess, but there's SO many side missions of "do X things" that I've forgotten what I was doing next), and I'm going, "okay, so your dad died, and you feel you have to continue his journey to feel closer to him. Have you tried therapy?" She keeps feeling a compulsion to do this, and it's just not needed for her character. She could have just gone, "the island changed me, and I want to uncover every mystery there is, and OH, this weird villain organization's in the way? Lemme kick their asses." They don't NEED all this daddy issues drama, and frankly, I don't care. There was only one character I ACTUALLY was interested in from the first game, and it wasn't Jonah who keeps with her through the trilogy--it was Lara's friend Sam from the first game. In the ending, she made it out of a mystical ritual, nearly inhabited by the spirit of an undead witch queen from Japan. THAT sounds like a character we should be bonding with over shared traumas in a terrifying but ultimately heart-pulling buddy adventure. Instead, so far, it's just Lara, talking to herself at campfires and to whoever is giving her missions.

@@khamjaninja. ​ thank you for articulating part of why I hate this game with a fiery passion. It really oozes “let’s make it feminist (but not really) because we don’t want to be subversive enough to ostracize more right wing male players while pleasing a culture which is currently in the middle of maybe almost taking women’s rights seriously” the irony is that older more sexualized renditions of Lara-while still not having much of a character arc, had heaps more agency, personal charm and likeability. I’m not talking about her huge boobs, although I’m sure that drew many people to her back then 😅… I mean the fact that she was a witty, classy, calm femme fatale who was very intelligent and educated. She was a bit on the insane adrenaline junkie side, which made for good humor but also made her compellingly exist in the margins between bravery and foolishness. Going back to agency though, the old Lara didn’t HAVE to do anything, she was so utterly free that she stared death in the face on the daily without fear. She was the batman of female video game characters, beloved for how untamable and badass she was. Beloved also for how she genuinely just loved her work. She was obsessed with mystery and attaining new knowledge and experience. She wasn’t doing it for a male relative… She was doing it for herself! In her old biography it expressly says she was rebellious towards her parents. So why they made a reboot and said “ok let’s start with a game where she’s a spineless wimp of a kid” is beyond me. It satisfies basically no one, correct me if I’m wrong.

What I find funny is this game contains the line "sacrifice is a choice you make loss is a choice that's made for you" and yet the developers and script fighters don't seem to know the difference

A bit like how the new Halos dont even metion The actual Halo...

*Raiding tombs!?*

Lazise Halo Strange, that. Only reason for them to still be called Halo is because nobody would recognize the name "Promethean-Shooting Simulator 2015"

Yeah, they should have called Halo 4 just Reclaimer Origins or something that would fit

What made me upset was that there was a halo ring in the game but instead we had to go to the space station. I really liked the mission but I think they could have got more out of the story if we went to the halo ring.

I think they took too many pointers from anime.

@DarkSonic180 did you not play Underworld with her thong diving suit? Or any of her shorts-in-the-jungle-despite-sunburns-and-bugs huge boobs games? She wasn't a bit sexualized, she was a gigabit sexualized (nerd humor)

@DarkSonic180 How does that not qualify as being sexualized?

@DarkSonic180 What do you think the intention was? Practicality? Feminism?

@DarkSonic180 Sure it is.

i want to know what rock climbing mentor teaches you how to shoot a bow with laser fucking percision because I WANT HIM TO TRAIN ME

James O'Neill "...it does explain that Lara had survival training..."

Shaquille Makowka even master archers can't shoot a arrow with that amount of accuracy.

But a mouse and keyboard can. How annoying would it be if your arrows just missed occasionally to be realistic?

HardModeGaming it would be more believable

+Mike Fogarty Actually, the enemies seem so inept, it actually works against me. It's cartoonish how closely I keep missing them, because I expect them to go in one direction, and they jerk around like headless chickens in the last milisecond. I'm not even kidding, their panic and confusion is by far my biggest challenge with them.. Also, I've never seen auto regeneration this fast. Even when enemies got me almost dead, they would never get another shot off before Lara fully regenerated in what feels like 2 seconds. How can you take the survival aspect and Lara falling on her face every two minutes seriously when she heals so fast, I can cross a field through heavy machine gun fire and be fine? This brings handholding to a new level, and the survival genre is the last that should do that.

+Mike Fogarty Does decimating virtually every inhabitant, including an ancient Japanese army, on the island with loads and loads of arrows, rifle bullets and shotgun pellets count as survival?

+Dan Author Nah, I got through 50% of the game, but I got tired of it.

The only thing that changes later in the game is much less quicktime events than in the beginning. I don't usually mind QTEs much, but these ones are broken in so many ways, they seriously dragged the game down

Agreed. I played this game for like an hour and all I did was watching cutscenes and doing QTEs. The climbing is also too cinematic, like Uncharted, i.e. watching Lara losing her grip and falling down because the ledge she was holding on to broke. What a piece of garbage.

also not to mention that gameplay lara does not fit in with cutscene lara or the story characters. In the first 30 minuets lara has been beartrapped,impaled by a spike,shot about 50 times and falling off of anything every 5 minutes and then all of a sudden a character is bitten by wolf once and is now dead. So we have a super hero inside a world where if you step on a pebble you explode

Then proceeds to get her ass handed to her by about 12 guys _after having already killed hundreds of enemies_. If that wasn't a prime example of Cutscene Incompetence I don't know what is.

The game was freaking flooded with moments where she could sent an arrow through that guy's cranium and ended everything. It didn't make me hate her, but I did yell at the screen and laugh in disbelief when she FINALLY killed the guy

I am playing that fucking game, and it is seriously giving me a headache over sheer fucking incompetence of Lara, in that cut scene she has a fucking SMG, why the bow and arrow? like wtf, when she gets her arse kicked a moment later they make it a point of showing them taking it away. What the fucking hell!!!!!!, a group of 30-40 people in a room and what does she use a bow, God!!!!!

Huge flaw alert... Nothing forced them? Let's see how much fun these games become if you don't partake in any of the objectives tied to the main storyline. Any game I've played that allow you to "choose" to participate Leave you with no story or ending if you choose not to participate. Either way it's the same, unless you like roaming around environments doing side quests or nothing at all. You, the player, force the character because there is no point in playing otherwise.

Just don't forget this is basically Lara's origin story. Origin stories choose the protagonists, not protagonists choosing origin stories. So Lara being the cosmic plaything is accurate, since this forces her to become the badass Tomb Raider. Nothing happening in the game is really HER choice, except fighting to survive. Which, when you think about it, it's what LIFE is about, really? You're trapped in a world full of nutcases repeating mistakes of the past generations and making new ones and you have no other choice but cutting your way into wealth or at least pleasant stability while hoping the world won't blow up because humanity are jerks and the universe an infinitely bigger jerk.

actually Lara chose to risk her own life and the others, like that one time, where she (SPOILER ALERT) takes the gun and orders the pilot to land. That is a choice of her character.

Barholtworld Like I said, origin story. She didn't choose to go into it, but she chose to fight to survive it.

***** I bought the series on the same steam sale, unless you like quick time events don't get too exited.

Honestly, I felt immersed in the game. The characters all had a personality and so it was quite interesting. Sure they were stereotypical archetypes, but it wasn't bad, just there. The only character that I felt nothing for was a certain character we know that died from a certain incident with gravity. Most of the time I just kept thinking to myself I was going to slaughter the big bad in such a way even Kratos would think "whoa, TOO FAR MATE!" I even went so far as to use only a bow and pistol unless absolutely necessary for progression ala obstacle, just so I could feel a godly might saying "TASTE MY HEADSHOTS FROM ARROWS AND PISTOL ROUNDS YOU PUNY SWINE!" I swear, 85% of the deaths were from what you might call "structural cranium failure". Honestly, I enjoyed the game to death, but it felt empty, completing it in only 15 hours tops, as well as getting 70% effortlessly.

yeah, I just got the bundle which gives me all the Tomb raider games including this one and all DLCs. and all those DLCs are crap and I am glad I got them through the bundle.. but there were also PTW DLC for multiplayer that came with it... too bad I am not even going to play MP as it seems as tacked on as my preschool doodle on my mums fridge.

It was a pretty fun game in my opinion, but there were many ways they could have improved upon it to take it from "decent" to "spectacular". The mechanics, as Yahtzee points out, are introduced and then promptly forgotten about. Some of the violence directed towards Lara was a bit over the time, and for a game that's generally known for it's puzzles, I would have much rather have had intelligent and ingenious ways to avoid combat or solve problems. However, many of the injuries she obtains, the only notable injuries of which would be the pipe through her side, a bear trap, and a tumble through the forest. The pipe and bear trap, while looking severe, can actually be explained away as being superficial, while the tumble through the forest can merely be stated as luck. I know from experience that the human body is both incredibly fragile and incredibly durable at the same time. The combat itself is decent, though a couple of the weapons, while they have their niche uses (like the shotgun) are just sub-par compared to the others (specifically the bow) that the only time you really ever use them is when the game forces you to overcome certain obstacles. As for the plot and character development, I do have to point out, that being in that situation, having only a single freak out after killing someone would be fairly normal. Any person, you, me, or anyone else, if confronted with a similar situation, are going to pretty much do one of three things. One: You freeze, which means, you die. End of the story. Two: You try to flee, where you may escape, you may not, but you don't fight, which leads to Three: You fight back, using whatever means available. And you continue to do so until you're safe. So Lara's character development, for her ability to take so many lives, is both believable and understandable. That said, there could have been far more to her development, as the only real choice she really makes is decided to rescue her friends. Everything else just kinda happens to her, or she is told she has to do something. Overall, the writing was okay, but could have been better, with additional character development, and more choices from the protagonist that pushes the story forward that isn't along the lines of "I have no choice". The combat could have been streamlined, with the under utilized tools either removed, or re-balanced. Additional options and puzzles, clever, thought out ways to avoid/end combat and solve problems wouldn't have gone amiss, especially for a Tomb Raider game. And mechanics that make a lot of sense for these games (like having the player hunt for food) kept throughout the story. Even if additional survival mechanics were required as part of the story, as long as it makes sense, and helps provide more depth, than go for it. Otherwise, don't introduce mechanics you'll never use again.

Good for you... It's been months! more than a year now! 3 years and still couldn't complete the game! I couldn't not force myself to play this game! No matter what I do! the point is.. worst ever! next to DmC!

Good you didn't try the multplayer, it was godawful. Glitchy, laggy and plain horrible to play.

Stannis TheMannis Worse than the actual multiplayer gameplay was the fact they made multiplayer achievements. I find it both sad and frustrating that I can't get 100% completion on the game's achievements, because almost no one plays the multiplayer.

8 years later, still true.

Yahtzee needs a choke-hazard warning. You normally need to be eating/drinking something for this to apply but, with him, you sometimes end up expelling all your air laughing and unable to get it back for ninety-some seconds. Funniest games-review channel on RU-vid. : )

It normally takes me dozens of videos to actually subscribe to someone, but this guy had me subbed in the first vid.

Dan Author Sounds like this went through it's own version of development hell. Just get one writer and stick with it lol. I either want it to be good all the way through or god awful all the way through. If it's going to have average to meh gameplay, I at least want the dialogue and story to interest me (which it didn't). Frankly the story lost me when you were trying to rescue Sam from the cultist in the caves and their compound

+Dan Author Exactly. I may not have pieced together everything (probably from a lack of exploring at the time lol) but I did figure out that something magical was going on since it became super obvious early on.

*She went from poor innocent Lara Croft who doesn't want to* [...] I have to disagree. She was Rambo 2.0 from the beginning. We as a players, a.k.a. sociopaths with pretty decent murdering skills, got our weapons very early in storyline and They didn't create any system that makes Lara shoots poorly for those first stages of storyline. With small help of these skills I mentioned before Lara became murdering machine at the moment She laid her hands on random dusty weapon on that party island.

+The36th A very good eye. The only real explanation I could dig up for that is the fact she and...the Irish/Scottish badass who was doing Reyes went on adventures. They say he taught her things for surviving like hunting, camping, etc. Not very solid when she still is given no limits but story and gameplay constraints at the time though and you can stick an arrow through a deers eye socket with pinpoint accuracy. I think the only explanation for that is she was on the archery team. Still not a good one. I could be a trapshooting pro but that doesn't mean I can have a gunfight with experienced survivalists and live to tell the tale lol. You sir brought up a very good point that shows another huge flaw in this game (and it actually helped me expand upon it too!). Look at us go! Now we need a think tank to put the screws to the Last of Us. I may be the only one who wants that though.

+Dan Author On the money my friend. She has this training apparently but her character doesn't do anything relatively within character. I wonder if Rise of the Tomb Raider (a more stupid name than Xbox One if you ask me personally) does anything to remedy the fact. I bet 100 dollars it doesn't. As for the Last of Us: my issues with RWBY (whole other topic), Tomb Raider, and The Force Awakens are all the same with my issues for that game. I will say this though: play it if you can, the unnecessary PS4 if you have one due to the fact it has more content (if you can find it cheaper) then decide if it's worth your time. I won't tell you anything other than it completely pissed me off that people said it was flawless because it isn't. I can handle people having an opinion, I can't however handle illogical nonsense. But play it however you can in order to make a true decision. It might surprise you. But then again, it didn't do squat for me and it's the exact thing I like: a zombie apocalypse game.

Haha, it weird though, uncharted 1 adopted Lara crofts "treasure hunter" story, meanwhile the new Lara croft adopts uncharted physics engine and climbing mechanics, its kinda like two kids copying each others work without realizing the other ones doing it :L

Prince of Persia begat Tomb Raider begat Prince of Persia begat Uncharted begat Tomb Raider

You took 3-D to uncharted territory! Now you're just in Uncharted's territory! Indiana Jones, Epic Rap Battles of History.

"So how do we make this game more serious?" "I dunno, MAKE IT FUCKING GREY"

the sequel has fucking snowflakes on her eyelashes....snowflakes on her eyelashes thats where all the money is geting dumped -_-

Snow flakes and Laras hair...money well spend-Suare Enix

another "almost rape" scene i am 90% sure

Yeah, in the last few games before the reboot she was pretty much what you described, but the story had gotten absolutely bonkers so I don't blame the developers for wanting to start with a fresh continuity.

Because we have to apeal to all those womans and boys that cant see a breast wiouth covering their face, or screaming sexism, so they throw that to the toilet, and sell us the content of the toilet. Lara croft, wiouth the actitud, the confidence, the sexuality, the puzzles, the plataform, to appeal to the boys and the feminist, totaly ignoring the players and fans that make tomb raider, tomb raider

You can easily make a sexy character with personality that is a good feminist icon in a game or comic or anything. Chloe is a pretty good example. She's got flaws, she has merits, shes independant but that doesn't stop her from having feelings, etc.

Maddy Ramskill True, true, but dont forget, in order to write those tipes of characters, require time, thinking, love for the character and the franchise and more importantly desire to do it, i hardly doubt you see these tipes of characters in today triple AAA industry, maibe in a secondary character, or one that haves a digital clock showing how much before it pass to a better life

Kinda ironic considering how back in the day people called uncharted tomb raider with a man as the protagonist

Now we have come full circle, while Uncharted was a TR clone in spirit, it has its own quirks with more focus on combat rather than plattforming and now TR decides to abandon the tomb raiding and plattforming for generic third person shooter Baysplosion galore that gets high praises because the main character is a female that shoots guns and not because of her character (or lack there of)

Which is now Lost Legacies...

Lewtable I definitely know what they were going for, they wanted a game that realistic and show Lara as being a vulnerable human. But that's not working for Tomb Raider, the Tomb Raider games were so fun *because* they weren't gritty and realistic. Old Lara was a clever bad-ass in those games.

Lewtable i agree with you, but the game wasn't bad, not out standing good either. just slightly above average. This is my exact problem with the game for me, it wasn't a tomb raider game that your use to (i never really go into it, no point of lying about it but ive played it before, never really liked it personally) and its not realistic either. Not a bad game but solid, but for me it falls under the uncanny valley in a way.

I liked the game, very much. But then I haven't played any other Tomb Raiders. I thought the gameplay was nice 'n' fluid and the story kinda sucked me in.

***** The story was one of the things I didn't like. Mainly because I'm a fan of the earlier Tomb Raiders that were on PS1, instead of a realistic story like this game, the older ones were kinda silly and over-the-top. I miss games that were like that, now it feels like too many games are trying to be gritty and realistic, I never felt like it fit a Tomb Raider game.

toshineon How is a God trying to inhabit a dead person for the entire game realistic?

it was a good game. i wont deny that. but as it is called Tomb Raider i am basing my judgement on other Tomb Raider games... therefore the game is bullshit and doesn't deserve the title of Tomb Raider... Tomb Raider is the first game... not this hunkc of shit. if it was called... Bitch with small tits goes survival horroring around an Island... then maybe id have liked it.

Chelsie Owens I'm playing it right now because it was free on Xbox last month. It's a shit game. There really is no central mechanic there. It's just "press this button to do this one time." I can't play it for more than 5 minutes at a time because it's just all the boring parts of Assassin's Creed. So far it's running along a preset path while the thing you're jumping on occasionally falls. I keep remembering I have fun games or more interesting things to do and just start doing that instead. Like at one point, either Lara or someone on the radio says she "can't just wait around here" after a 10 minute cutscene. Well that was exactly what I did because I stopped paying attention during the cutscene to browse tumblr. The cutscene ended and Lara had been standing there for 15 minutes before I remembered I was playing a game. Absolutely uninteresting and a perfect example of how AAA action games are wasting massive budgets failing to entertain.

***** They were great games. That's why it has such a large fan base, you dolt. They brought something to the table no other game did at the time. Cool atmosphere, large exploration areas and fun 3D platforming. You felt like a tomb raider, figuring out puzzles, surviving natural disasters, and dying a shit ton doing it. Hell it didn't even warn you when a big ass bear tried to eat you, you're only warning was a growl. You know like real life? I went into this Tomb Raider thinking I was getting what the title promised. I got a Third Person Call of Duty with quick time events. Oh and some exploration on the side when the plot wasn't anywhere nearby (these were the best parts). And honestly the story was painfully predictable. For me, please note, for me.

***** what the fuck. no. the Tomb Raider (2013) or when ever it was as i dont give a shit about it, had no puzzles. none. nada. also no tombs where being raided. also it was calling itself a survival game. you only had to do the fucking hunting once and that was for a tutorial. amongst other reasons is why this games was shit.

+Michael Prymula have you played any of the good tome rader games or uncharted or both then looked at this game and wondered why every one hates this version of one of the strongest women in gaming

Your opinion. Does not really "=" anything. :3

Comparing it to other games where you get shot a billion times and no compromises at all, Tomb Raider does it slightly better though. Many critics criticise the fact she gets beat up like a punching bag, some still criticise she isn't beat up enough. Can't make everyone happy.

man, I am so glad I'm not the only one who disliked this game. I really can't stand tomb raider or assassin's creed 3 and 4 because the characters instantly turned into badasses with barely any sort of "how" explained. Far cry 3 was alright here though, since I chalked Jason's transformation up to him being high the whole time.

Yahtzee doesn't agree with you. He named this game as one of his top contenders for his #5 slot of Game of the Year. It ended up losing along with The Last of Us to Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance, but he described it as okay. And given how tough Yahtzee is on games, this is something of an achievement for Tomb Raider.

nextlifeonearth Not a bad game, its fun enough, it could be better if the character wasn't such a punching bag as you say.

I got a Tomb Raider Definitive Edition ad instead ._.

RU-vid has ads?

Erwin Schrodinger Only for those who can't install a pop up blocker.

Chris Minato Or for those that don't want to, because ad revenue is an actual thing, and they can usually spare a minute or two of their time. Volvo's four minute ad can go fuck itself, though.

Max Esposito I actually got a 20 minute long ad once. I have no idea what it was advertising, because I skipped it as soon as I saw how long it was, but still... an ad like that was made.

That was the most pretentious comment I've ever read "can we really know who we are?" I mean come on mate this game is not well written its badly written. The story is like an episode of scooby doo in how ridiculous it is, the character arcs are so inconsistent and the game has no hidden themes in the background there's no subplot it's not as smart as bioshock or spec ops. It's nowhere near that I cared more about the characters in Blood Dragon than in Tomb Raider

Agreed. It was funny how Jason went from a scared college kid to an invincible murder machine after his first battle. Also gotta love how he's an instant expert with every weapon he picks up even though he's never had any training on any of them.

Several thousand Bees far cry 3 is awsome.

Several thousand Bees you have a point i guess.

The thing about Brody was that him being completely fine with everything that's happening was important, he was a psychopath, we were not supposed to feel sorry for him, we were supposed to feel disgusted by him and see him spiral down a psychopathic train. Lara we need to feel sorry for, she is a good person in a bad situation that quickly adapts to murdering people.

Far cry 4 was a lot worse in that regard

+Dream Melody I know. Not even Nathan Drake can withstand all that. Remember how much pain he was in when he was shot in the chest? That's why Nathan Drake is more respectable than this impostor of Lara Croft: he has human emotions.

But it's name is fucking stupid and it's really annoying when I'm looking up walkthroughs and having to add 2013 to the end.

If you thought Tomb Raider 2013 is a stupid title, just look at Rise of the Tomb Raider, the title of a sequel even though it would fit better in the first reboot game

Lobstromonous Entertainment If it wasn't called Tomb Raider with a character not named Lara Croft no one would think this had any connection at all to the original series

Lobstromonous Entertainment i personally found this to be a chore to play through and din`t even beat it.

+Dan Author Maybe that was the point? It makes for bad gameplay, but interesting commentary that the only thing that was really scary about them was their appearance and presentation. As soon as someone starts taking shots at them, they crumble, just like Himiko's whole plot (when the princess committed suicide). All it took was someone telling the emperor he had no clothes to make his impotent wrath irrelevant. I thought the game was alright. I could have done with, as the review said, more exploring and platforming and less "jump from behind cover, gun some dudes down, get back behind cover" gameplay. And I certainly could have done with less annoying characterization. I didn't want to rescue Sam in the end, and I had started hoping that Reyes or Alex would have had more screen-time.

He say in a previous video that he doesn't hate them all together he just thinks that when they are generally used they are used wrong since they are never really a core part of game play not just randomly sprinkled through out the game.

They went with overboard whit QTEs. They don't work with keyboard and mouse imo.

The only QTEs I like are the ones from Resident Evil 4, and only because they were so fucking hard.

Sometimes, you are right. Tomb Raider could be considered an example of doing them right. There ARE games where they replace gameplay, though.

bigfatcarp93 Heavy Rain, Farenheit, Beyond Two Souls...

+Jaime Grey it is uncharted but they fuck up one of the strongest women in video games and i think uncharted had more tomes in it probably

+Jaime Grey I actually really don't think TR ripped off Uncharted -- probably the only person that'll ever say that. I don't even know why people say as such. If anything Uncharted did, I feel TR did a lot better. I felt more progression with upgrades and leveling certain skills, rather than just running and gunning, then climbing a cliff for a short break from shooting.

***** well they are both rip offs of the Indian johns formula evil group goes after thing then hero goes after thing then hero destroyes the item

Tell us more about this Indian Johns fellow

+Strange Axle That's because TR chose to have rpg elements, thus the feeling of progression that you are talking about. Still TR couldn't have possibly done this better since Uncharted never implemented rpg elements in the firstly place so there is no comparison possible there. And this is one of their fundamental differences. And I prefer to make references about inspiration, rather than "ripp offs". I believe such negative term couldn't be applied to neither of those great games.

i agree

2:05 Two gameplay elements that really have no place in AAA games.

Yahtzee didn't like it because Yahtzee wants a game where ALL of the protagonist's actions are driven by the player. Games like Half-Life where "cutscenes" at least let you look around the room, and to a lesser extent Fable 3 where the moment-to-moment resource management has implications on the moral choice system which in turn has impact on the gameplay

***** The problem is that the other 95% is menu hopping and simply walking around. Everything that actually advances the game is buggy, broken QTE.

I loved the game, too, but I agree with Yahtzee on basically all counts. So often I was thinking "Jesus Christ. Aren't they gonna give this woman a break? She's just spent the last half hour falling down holes, caught in a currents, clinging to rock faces for dear life, getting the shit kicked out of her and being shot at and set on fire, constantly, without a break. AND WHY HASN'T SHE STOLEN A COAT, YET?" There were also a lot of cinematics, particularly the opening one, where I was left wondering why I'm not the one controlling her. Like the boat crash would have been so much more awesome if I'd just been in control of her. As it was, it was a cinematic. And the two Scottish characters felt so very contrived, while Lara's voice actor was...really not good enough. As for that 'Arc'...yeah, I found the disconnect between freaking out over her first kill and being constantly rewarded for headshots and "finishes" a bit annoying, as well as the being encouraged to straight up murder people who MIGHT want to kill me. She becomes more jaded as the game progresses, sure, but most of the character development is just a clever use of the introduction of game mechanics masquerading as such. Was a fun game, though. Gorgeous, too. But way too many shootouts, not enough stealth and platforming, and not enough rewards/context for the collectibles. Still, £3.99 well spent.

Steve Stevenson I misread Boner Cancer in the video.

She is REacting to Sam being kidnapped each time. Being Proactive would be her deciding "fuck this defending ourselves Im going to kill all the cultists that way we dont have to worry about them".

memnarch129 To be fair, if she'd done that, everyone would have complained about how out of character it was.

TheChessicfayth Ill agree. Was just pointing out that her saving Sam four times isnt her being proactive but reactive.