Tongue and Groove / Rail and Stile Router Bits - Shaker Style Doors Making 

I just tried this and really needed to hear you say , “don’t worry it takes practice, the more times you do it the better you’ll get at it!” Not feeling discouraged

You're as good as always. What I admire about you is how patiently you explain step-by-step mentioning all necessary details to get perfect job.

I'm 41 years old and I'm disabled so I started looking at making doors for my house and I am just learning how. I figure I can't afford to buy them so I should learn to make them for myself. I really like how detailed your instructions are and that you talk slowly so that I can understand what your saying very clearly. Thank you for the great video!

Thanks, I have in mind to do a bunch of cabinet doors and drawer fronts and have been hesitant about what joinery method to use. The few little techniques you showed here for measuring and dialing the setup will give me more confidence to get started.

Great video and I really like the way you get the measurements for the rails, would have never thought of doing it that way. Thank you for that trick.

Hi Colin! I’ve been enjoying your videos for years and finally got around to subscribing today. I consider myself an intermediate amateur, and I’m enjoying woodworking in my retirement. Having been a technology trainer myself for 30 years before retiring four years ago, I have to tell you that I really appreciate your style and thoroughness in your explanations. As an add to this video, I wanted to mention a tip from something that I picked up a few years ago, and it’s quite simple where tongue and groove or rail and style bits are concerned. Let’s say that the tongue of your tongue cutter (or rail/cope cutter) is 7/16” long, which you and I have. Then you simply need to cut all of your rails and stiles to a width of 2-7/16”. As you said, you then cut your stiles to length by using the desired height of the finished door. You will cut your rails to length by always taking your desired door width and then subtracting 4” from that. Thus, if you want a 13-1/2” wide finished door, simply take 13-1/2” and subtract 4”, and you will cut your rails to a length of 9-1/2”. If you always cut your rails and stiles 2-7/16” wide, your magic number is always 4”. If the tongues on your tongue cutter are 1/2” long, then always cut the rails and stiles to a width of 2-1/2”. The “magic number” will still be 4”, an easy calculation!

You are amazing and have such a talent for teaching! Thank you for these VERY informative videos.

You My Sir, describes how to gather the measurement for Rails the MOST EASIEST WAY ON RU-vid!!!!! THANK YOU SO VERY KINDLY! Goode (Houston, Texas)

collin i have done this a few times and everytime i come back to this video,,,it has helped me so much,,you are a great teacher,,

What a way to go to bed... watching your vids Colin. You rocks my friend! Two thumbs Up !

By watching this I believe I figured out what my issue was with cutting my tongues. I was flushing the bit teeth up with the top of the board instead of focusing on the bottom. So I was left with a .008 thick piece of the board along the bottom of the board. But if I had done it right I believe the bit would’ve worked fine. Thanks again for an amazing video Colin. You’re such an incredibly helpful man.

Just wanted to say Colin , you are one of the better teachers out there on woodworking. Love your style and candor:)

Mate! What a a nugget of gold. Thank you.

i watched alot of videos on here about making the rail and stile doors but i think yours is the best,,have done made about 4 doors with 2 more to go,,,,looks good and thank you so much,,

Thank you so much sir, I'm new to woodworking, but I visit you video's often to find help. You have one of the best woodworking channels on RU-vid!!

Colin ... I just got the same set of router bits and started practicing on scrap. I started with the grooves 1st, like the majority of advice says to do. I come to the conclusion that your method of starting with the tongue is the better way for making everything even. Thanks

You have the gift of being able to teach. Thank you

Good video, I am soon to be building 29 doors to remodel the kitchen and this really helped. Thanks

You explain everything perfectly - my interest in woodworking is renewed, so thank-you 😊

Thank you. You explain everything very well. Easy to follow. Blue tape, good idea.

Thanks Colin 👍 I've had both these bits for awhile and dared not to use them 🤣🤣 but watching your video has told me everything i needed to know 🤘🤘

Thanks man. I read had a rough time with these bits. Now it all works out.

Great tips Colin. Routing is my weakest thing right because it seems harder for me to line my bits up right but I keep on practicing and I know I will feel more secure in time. Especially with all the good tips and tricks you teach me how to do.

Hiya Colin . Though I’d let you know , I have learnt so much from you . As a disabled dude with mobility problems you have proved to me , it’s not that hard to make stuff . The only thing holding me back ... is me ...

The video was excellent. It was just to much for me to understand right now. I get the gist but I’m not at the point where I completely get it. I’m at the very beginning of understanding how to work my tools but I’ll come back to this video when I’m ready cause I’m interested in learning how to make cabinet doors for my house. Great video!

I haven't used those bits yet. Thanks for the help to learn how to use those bits and how to measure.

What a helpful video! You're a great teacher!

This will make a perfect picture frame!

Thanks Colin it was just what I was looking for. Great vid.

Another great video Colin, thank you. Good explanation as always. Keep on posting please.

Great video! Simple steps for a wonderful finish.

Nicely done explaining everything! Thank you.

This is was wonderful. Youre a great teacher!

Very informative Colin. Thank you. I've made some picture frames with butt joints but this video inspires me to venture on.

Thanks for sharing. So much time I watch your videos and so many things I learned. Greetings from France

Thank you for the detailed video and your time!

Thank You! Ready to Try it myself Now!

Thank you! Nice and slow for people like me!

You made that super easy to understand. Thank!

Great job explaining everything thank you

Excellent tutorial, thank you!

Fantastic video - greatly appreciated!!!

Thankyou Colin, this was a beneficial presentation . . . Chris . . . Norwich, England

Excellent demo.

Very well explained and illustrated

Thanks. You are very good with detailing❤❤

as usual perfect video, thank you.

works great Collin,,thanks for the info

Colin you are always interesting and informative 👍👍🇬🇧

This is soooo useful. Thank you.

Excellent videos, Colin. Regards from your newest fan from Brazil.

Super simple explanation

So really good tips! Thanks

Great video. I'll have to do some practice runs with setting up the height of the router bit. Barry

Thank you sir for very informative and best presented video

Very helpful video. Thanks for your help

I learned a lot from you thanks master

Great tutorial Colin. I think I will have to get some new router bits to add to my collection!

Great demo, Colin!

Thanks Colin, one more time & have a nice day.... :-)

Nice one Colin. Have to get some of these bits too

Well explained Colin!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

You made it look easy.

Excellent video, i Learned a lot

As always, Colon, well done sir.

thanks man you,r great

Good video. Great idea with the blue tape and on testing the height of the groove cutting bit. I have a set of tongue and groove bits and I don't like that the groove is too wide for 1/4 plywood. Maybe there are better sets of bits out there than the one I have? The last set of doors I made I used a table saw and had a better outcome. But some of this has to do with my router appears to move slightly up and down while in its base in the router table. I have a Porter Cable router and used some Yonico bits.

What a great training video thank you

Thanks for the video, really inspiring! Going to get some tongue and groove bits soon ready for when I need to make a door.

Nice. Thanks

Good Projekt.

Great video. Thx

Great video! Thanks for sharing.

I just made my first pair of these doors using my dado blade set on one table saw and a regular blade on the other. Both are jobsite grade tablesaws and i had to really wrestle to get the one with the dados flat. Turnes out the stock insert is bent. I made a zero clearance insert but it didnt fit super tight so i had to be careful on startup of the saw. It wanted to fly out. Anyway.. im gonna try your tip on.making the tongues first to see if it helps me dial things in faster. I spent a bit of time matching them up at first. Thanks...

That was good Colin ... well done regards Mike

Excellent

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 GREAT JOB 👍👍👍👍

Good job Sir 👍

Colin, this is an outstanding tutorial for me since I am a beginner. Really fancy the router table. What model/brand is the router table?

Thank you...

Buena clase

Thanks.

Wonderful

Thank you very proper technique on how to do this now i know ....thank you

GOOD VIDEO..SUBSCRIBED

Very nice video Colin! Some day I hope to be half as good as you!

Great idea tongue to tongue

I like your push grips with sticky mesh on! I'll be definitely doing that! With the end grain work for the tenons would you say that it is better to have a sliding table or table it is no better either way?

Hi Mr. Colin, I just LOVE your videos and how you teach us, it's understandable to me. Can you tell me whatthe inside measurements to this

thank you

Nice job

You got a new subscriber today

Colin thank you. Theses are the type of doors I want to build. I followed your link to buy the bits off Amazon. Could you do a video or tell us where to find a video on setting the bits up. Using the shins etc...

Great tutorial only wish it was in metric and thanks for the tip of using tape for the back.

good vid thanks as always. perhaps you addressed it somewhere, but is the dual router bit approach, as opposed to a single bit used at 2 different levels with a workpiece flip in the middle, recommended by you to save time. Is that the only advantage compared to a single horizontal groove cutter bit?

Great vid - thanks. Was looking for the link to the marking bars! ???

Hi Colin. I love your videos. You are a master woodworker & appreciate all the amazing contents you provide on your channel. How many passes/door would you say one can make before the bits get dull?

I routed all my grooves first, only once I went to fit one up did i realize that my grooves were not 100% square to the work piece. Probably an issue with how my router is mounted or how it locks down. It's not really an issue for edge profiling but when it comes to joinery it can be a real issue. I'm not sure how to fix it, either. I need to be able to reference the angle of the shank relative to the table surface and make sure it's square, I guess. May need to use shims of some sort between the router and the table.

Thanks Col well done I'm just in the middle of making my home made router table and learning all the bits excellent video mate.

Thanks for the video, but how did you measure for the face of the wood?