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Too many inputs? No problem! Steam Deck Action Layers Tutorial 

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@Fukkatsu
@Fukkatsu 2 года назад
The options and customizability Steam input gives the user is insane. Console makers need to take notes.
@werpu12
@werpu12 2 года назад
Yes that was one of the heavily overlooked aspects of the steam controller. The thing was so versatile it literally was crazy. Instead it got hammered for being too complicated and you actually had to learn to use that thing.
@LycoLoco
@LycoLoco 2 года назад
Absolutely. Having extra buttons is a good thing and something both Microsoft and Sony are afraid to change about their consoles. Valve and PC games are the only ones willing to take control chances
@Soheil-ev6ls
@Soheil-ev6ls Год назад
That's because the majority of console players don't want complexity. Perhaps if more people requested it, such a feature would be developed.
@Horrorz95
@Horrorz95 2 года назад
Keep going man. This Steam Input series is actually amazing and you're the only one with a Deck that's goig hard on it so far.
@Rhomagus
@Rhomagus 2 года назад
Agreed. No one else is focusing on Steam Input. He could easily capitalize on this and make it his niche.
@jaredf6205
@jaredf6205 2 года назад
Valves experience with the Steam controller was really important for this kinda stuff.
@werpu12
@werpu12 2 года назад
Indeed this is basically what the Steam controller provided (and all the testers ignored by criticizing it that it was not an xbox controller). Thats also the reason why after the initial criticism the steam controller now is regarded as one of the best controllers ever done for the pc, it was all the software and innovative approach.
@rawbeanuk
@rawbeanuk Год назад
@@werpu12 To be fair to reviewers, this is functionality that was added a good year or so after the SC came out. Reviewers and the public dismissed the SC too quickly, but also it took a long time for even Valve to realise all its potential. They didn't even include gyro aiming as a default option on release, it was added as a default template only after the community made a big thing of it. The handy thing is the deck can take advantage of everything learned over the lifespan of the SC. Just hope the success of the Deck allows for a SC2.
@jex-the-notebook-guy1002
@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 Год назад
If you ever watched part of the steam input presentation from valve you'd know they thought of something big that only a few implemented. Look at No Man's sky. It has multiple tabs on the default configuration. 2 of them are for on foot and flight. Without those tabs you'd have manual toggles for action sets. With these tabs it switches automatically freeing up space. The presentation presented the idea of thinking in "actions" instead of inputs. Instead of press A to jump, it's press jump to jump. You then let the user assign what input goes to jump.
@1zklz
@1zklz 2 года назад
I am worried I might spend more time setting up controls for games than actually playing on the steam deck lol
@Dracossaint
@Dracossaint 2 года назад
The best thing about it, is there's things like community profiles!
@Shadow__133
@Shadow__133 Год назад
@@Dracossaint Over 10 games and I have yet to find a worthy community profile. Most are 💩.
@Mizufluffy
@Mizufluffy 2 года назад
Even though I'm very familiar with Steam Input features I think it is really cool to see these for the Steam Deck not only because the UI is different from the desktop version but also because Steam Deck has more input methods than the Steam Controller so it's cool to see practical use cases for the extra buttons.
@ActionGamerAaron
@ActionGamerAaron 2 года назад
4:53 The casual gamer experience.
@madjunir
@madjunir 2 года назад
Pretty awesome! The configurability Never stops surprising me. I would love to see a few more examples for different games. And I hope developers take advantage of these features
@stevefury90
@stevefury90 6 месяцев назад
I return to this video over and over again. Thanks to your tutorial I'm able to play WH4K Gothic Armada with my steam deck with all the hot keys in my track pads layers.
@skeletorusgaming689
@skeletorusgaming689 Год назад
Duuuuuuude, your videos are changing the way I play games. No longer getting frustrated with not fully supported games but charging the configuration of the steam deck controls and adding layers makes them so much fun now
@LycoLoco
@LycoLoco 2 года назад
Having two trackpads and 4 back buttons really opens up the ability to add sets and layers which most other controllers don't have.
@werpu12
@werpu12 2 года назад
Trackpads also are great for movement and camera control. The right trackpad as trackball allows for insanely fast camera swipes combined with fine movement. Aka... swift swipe the camera literally is flying into the direction in a speed almost not achievable with a mouse. Touch the pad again with your thumb the cam comes to an instant stop and then you can use the thumb for fine granularity. Unfortunately not every game with cam control can work like that, many are too rigid in their thumbstick controls or switch to mouse keyboard entry and adjust their help messages accordingly (witcher 3 being a major offender in this area) Valve has added some simulated mouse joystick input (aka send joystick signals close to a mouse) but this is not entirely the same as going raw trackball mode.
@LycoLoco
@LycoLoco 2 года назад
@@werpu12 very true on all counts. I challenged myself to put movement on right pad on the Steam Controller and now all of my builds start that way. Camera control with pad + gyro is second only to a mouse, as well
@saifaddeenal-manaseer6325
@saifaddeenal-manaseer6325 2 года назад
@@werpu12 nice, thanks I didn't know that.
@svenabend360
@svenabend360 Год назад
Also possible to set the other trackpad menu as a Mode-Shift to L4 so you don't need to set an Action Layer. You can also assign Quick Save and Quick Load to the same "button" in Menus. Add extra command and set one as regular and another as e.g long press, double press etc. E.g you can assign regular press for flashlight, long press for Night vision goggles.
@aydenbales
@aydenbales 2 месяца назад
Thanks for the quick tutorial! I used this to help me create action layers to navigate the cameras in FNAF 1 with my pro-controller.
@jfitz1982
@jfitz1982 2 года назад
Thank you so much for these helpful guides, I don't think I would even have known about these configurations without them! Keep up the good work!
@spurlz2248
@spurlz2248 Год назад
Dude... THANK YOU for finally demystifying the action set layer configuration for me! Your video was super helpful.
@PavelGuicho
@PavelGuicho Год назад
I've been looking for a tutorial like this. It's so helpful. Thank you!
@ImBaeg
@ImBaeg Год назад
Fantastic explanation! I was curious what the action sets did and you simplified it so well with a great example. Thanks!
@blendpinexus1416
@blendpinexus1416 Год назад
this helped tremendously in figuring out layers and action sets for me
@danthaman8216
@danthaman8216 Год назад
I have been watching steam deck vids for a week and this is the first time I am hearing about this feature. that is wild and I am excited to try out options.
@jmb3d
@jmb3d 2 года назад
Thanks for showing this. I always wondered how I would implement this when I run out of buttons to program. More Steam Input tutorials would be great!
@Anna_Rae
@Anna_Rae 2 года назад
My favorite layer thing to do is have the right trackpad act as a dpad when you click it. That’s 4 buttons (even 5 if you add a center button) nested under the trackpad you’re using all the time for aiming
@CrystalStarGaze
@CrystalStarGaze Год назад
The buttons look easily customizable. That’ll come in major handy. Thank you for the description on the layers your awesome
@QuentinMatthysBoeckmansYJ
@QuentinMatthysBoeckmansYJ Год назад
Thanks that helped me with how to set up a controller 🎮 scheme for a game that needed a button for each magic spell !!! 👍🏻
@Thornskade
@Thornskade 2 года назад
As I played the Worms series quite a bit, in the Steam configuration (and sometimes using ControllerCompanion which is similar and existed before Steam Input) I set up quick select combinations for weapons. So holding select and pressing B brings up the grenade, A the bazooka etc., that sort of stuff I did some specific things to aid me in specific situations in certain games. For example, in Rocket League, I made it so when I press a shoulder button, the right trackpad will simply do nothing but pull the camera down. This allows me to effectively have two camera settings, one for dribbling where I can see from atop my car, and the regular one for everything else (wish they'd just make the ball transparent so you can dribble properly without shenanigans)
@fractyon3344
@fractyon3344 2 года назад
This was super informative and well explained, any videos explaining functionalities of the deck that might not be obvious for the average user are great
@avc6700blk
@avc6700blk Год назад
Came here looking to learn about action layers and discovered the radial wheel for track pads. Thank you for the info, earned my sub!
@gamingmimi2
@gamingmimi2 5 месяцев назад
How did you use your track pad radial wheel? Looking how to use it for rotating objects held in your hand to build structures.
@stvalmass
@stvalmass 2 года назад
This is really good content, keep it up please! I'd love to see more examples of this being used. The customization for Steam is truly next level!!
@jui79
@jui79 Год назад
🤯 amazing !!! Trying to get the controls ready for DCS world. Soooo many buttons, this will help a lot. Thanks
@michaelcooper9554
@michaelcooper9554 2 месяца назад
THanks for the tutorial on how to get them to work, I was close to working it out myself but this got me over the line
@clumsycaden5708
@clumsycaden5708 2 года назад
Wow that was really helpful, and I’m also impressed that steam implemented these options
@bibabutzemann5661
@bibabutzemann5661 5 месяцев назад
My favourite is directional swipe on gyro by pressing L2. In WoW i use it to play my druid to transform to a cat or bear by moving the steam deck up or down. And when i press L2 and L3 together, then moving the controller around does heal abilities.
@sandman7793
@sandman7793 Год назад
Thank you for this video. You helped me get amiibo working on BOTW. I was struggling to figure it out. You earned a subscribe and thumbs up.
@novitrix9671
@novitrix9671 9 месяцев назад
Legend, huge thanks for the important explanation I was looking for exactly how to do 1 button to have other options on already used controls. Really wanted to nest/chain commands and I think this will be my goto trick!
@antwanefort
@antwanefort 2 года назад
Let me go ahead and click that bell. I want all your videos. I have had my Steam deck for about three days now and it is way better than I even imagined. The trackpad and controller support is a game changer.
@AkoaGenesis
@AkoaGenesis 2 года назад
This is such a great help now that i have my deck and need better button mapping
@sethbondi8479
@sethbondi8479 2 года назад
These video are so helpful omg. Thank you so much!!!
@Fade2GrayOG
@Fade2GrayOG Год назад
Thanks for this! I working on getting Guild Wars 2 set up the way I want. There are some community presets already out there but none of them are quite right, so this will be a big help.
@jeffp.9369
@jeffp.9369 Год назад
this was great!! I've got to dig in on radial menus
@craftavenuecreations4931
@craftavenuecreations4931 4 месяца назад
Thanks so much!! I needed exactly this for Sims 4 Live/Build Mode ❤
@Rhomagus
@Rhomagus 2 года назад
Awesome man. Thanks for the demonstration. So glad the Deck has action layers. I'll be using them for basic umbrella configurations for FFXIV. When I touch the center it will turn the whole TouchPad into an analog stick. When I tap certain zones it'll activate a face button or a directional pad press. I'm going to save the Joysticks for Radial Menu shortcuts.
@LAN-w-
@LAN-w- Год назад
Thanks to this guide, I was able to play tab targeting rpg games smoothly with a controller.
@carlthewinner
@carlthewinner 2 года назад
Great tutorial! That is really awesome. My Steam Deck is still listed for Q2. I want it to be here! :)
@Viewer19
@Viewer19 2 года назад
So refreshing to have a channel that shows wgat an SDeck CAN do, Thanks
@zZiL341yRj736
@zZiL341yRj736 10 месяцев назад
Oh man this is amazing, I'm playing old games like Resident Evil 5, I'm using a Dualsense with full Keyboard Binding just be able to aim with Gyro as Mouse. I wanted to create a Layer where I can just hit a button and it will shift to Controller type so I can do the QTE properly. I think this is the key to do it.
@cyber7550
@cyber7550 2 года назад
This is amazing 🤩 Thankyou so much for your content 🙌🏼
@user-fr1ys2wn4t
@user-fr1ys2wn4t 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the guide. Very well explained!
@leandrocerencio
@leandrocerencio 2 года назад
Controller support for Steam is impressive. Now, Sony and Nintendo should improve pad support. I used layers and sets, my Fighting Stick doesnt have LS and RS. I set up Layers for LS and RS.
@Bentmetal13
@Bentmetal13 2 года назад
I like it, I'm not big on messing with controller mapping buy I definitely see the value in it. I'm currently playing fallout 4 on pc and SHOULD re map puncing/throwing Alt button to something but keep putting it off
@savmass
@savmass 2 года назад
That is really cool! Thanks for sharing.
@moncr79
@moncr79 2 года назад
Another great video on the controls!
@FRETW1ZARD
@FRETW1ZARD 2 года назад
Super helpful! Thanks dude
@harpalhayer7372
@harpalhayer7372 2 года назад
These videos are so informative!
@saickrivera4610
@saickrivera4610 Год назад
Thank you for your help, this days it's difficult to come by people like you, i want you to know that my heart will never stop appreciating your generosity..
@streetphone4619
@streetphone4619 9 месяцев назад
Thank-you Thank-you Thank-you and Thank-you. THIS is the video I needed.
@YannickBo
@YannickBo 2 года назад
Can you add alias to the radial menu? So it says quick save instead of F5.
@Moskeeto
@Moskeeto 2 года назад
You could in the old Steam Input UI but not currently in the new one. I imagine they will bring it back soon though.
@ricardowilliams3765
@ricardowilliams3765 2 года назад
This might be the best way (and the only way) to play Mario Galaxy 2 without a Wii mote portably. in theory, you could map that star icon to the track pad, have the shoot button mapped to ZR, and you're done.
@NerdNest
@NerdNest 2 года назад
You could just map the star icon to gyro.
@RJSamonte
@RJSamonte 2 года назад
Great content, this gives me hope I can play Civ 6 on the deck!
@WeWickd
@WeWickd 2 года назад
the the configuration settings are awesome. just set up my steam controller for elden ring. Q2 can't come fast enough. I want my steam deck🤪
@harry619
@harry619 2 месяца назад
Very helpful! Thanks!
@GuyManley
@GuyManley 2 года назад
Happy more people are going to be learning about how useful steam's input api is. I'm the only one in my group of friends that even touches it.
@SeanDS89
@SeanDS89 2 года назад
so cool! thanks for making these videos, when I get my Steam Deck I will definitely mess around with this kinda stuff :)
@liiqaonmarz6451
@liiqaonmarz6451 4 месяца назад
If I could upvote u 100x, I would… I’m playing guild wars 2 and trying to have my controller set up like ff14. And I couldn’t add an extra left trigger shift mode but thanks to you this works. I ❤ u. I been trying to figure out for 2 days.
@Viewer19
@Viewer19 2 года назад
A function (Fn) key with multi function sets, brilliant!
@officialdabaws5228
@officialdabaws5228 Год назад
really good for mmo's like wow and ff14. basically at the cost of the 4 back buttons, you multiply the face buttons and bumpers by 5.
@saifaddeenal-manaseer6325
@saifaddeenal-manaseer6325 2 года назад
This is really nice to mimick pressing a button, like middle mouse, to change what the mouse movement does. For example, normal mouse movement moves the cursor, and moving it while pressing middle button rotates the camera. One crazy idea is to use this to type using the buttons, lol. For example, pressing L4 makes the d-pad, ABYX buttons and shoulder buttons type letters A-L, and while pressing R4 they type M-X, etc... Yeah, you'd have to learn a new typing system, there's why it's crazy.
@maverickyoutube3660
@maverickyoutube3660 2 года назад
Wow this is great! I can map ALL guns in DOOM Eternal to quickswap :) Thanks for the hidden gem setting here NerdNest!
@saifaddeenal-manaseer6325
@saifaddeenal-manaseer6325 2 года назад
I thought about that when I learned about the track pads. It should be possible to map all the weapons using both track pads, no?
@danielt3104
@danielt3104 2 года назад
This is incredible!
@gadfield7425
@gadfield7425 6 месяцев назад
Super helpful ty bro
@ToastedSynapseGaming
@ToastedSynapseGaming Год назад
Came back to say that Action Sets will work great with Diablo 4. Specifically for navigating menus, skills, inventory etc. By using Mouse&Keyboard commands. Having the trackpad enable a layer that gives you a mouse and changes triggers to clicks, back buttons to shift for compare, Space for junk and other necessities. Then when you take your finger off, you're back to the Default controller and ready to fight demons. However I did find that for trackpad touch there might be a problem if you set it to "Hold Action Layer". It didn't switch properly, but very easy fix: Set trackpad touch to change the action set to M&K (or however you name it) and now it's changed permanently, but you enter M&K's bindings and go to trackpad and tell it to switch to Default on trackpad release. So both layers will have a command to switch to the other one. It may very well work with just the hold command (like you showed in your video), but it didn't for me at the time. Maybe because my layer was in parallel (not under) the Default layer so that all my commands were blank and not inherited. Don't know. Try it if you have Diablo. You'll be much happier with navigating the menus/UI like this 😁
@SamuHell782
@SamuHell782 2 года назад
The customization is freakin' awesome!
@Rodelero
@Rodelero Год назад
"I've got Oblivion running one of my all time favorite games" My man.
@lurker1316
@lurker1316 2 года назад
For something as straightforward as "save state/load state," I'd probably just map them to L4 and R4 directly, but it's definitely useful to have tutorials for these input options and neat to think of the crazy amount of possibilities.
@saifaddeenal-manaseer6325
@saifaddeenal-manaseer6325 2 года назад
It's a valid point, but maybe for someone who presses the back buttons by mistake, it might be better this way.
@wootsat
@wootsat 2 года назад
Is there a way to download other people's configurations? I'm imagining different games having their own popular input set ups you can just grab quickly and start playing with
@NerdNest
@NerdNest 2 года назад
Yes
@werpu12
@werpu12 2 года назад
Yes this has been in there since the Steam controller. Actually Valve is building upon thousands of user configurations already which were done for the SC and now work for the deck... So you already should have a good coverage of customized user inputs for many many games.
@psyboyo
@psyboyo 2 месяца назад
RU-vid only lets me press once on the Like button. I know this because I tried it 99 times. Had to be an odd number of course. Great short video, thanks! ^^
@LucaPassini
@LucaPassini Год назад
Fantastic video, this could be really useful on strategy games such as Stellaris and CK3.
@tf2293
@tf2293 2 года назад
This is amazing!!
@ProtoPropski
@ProtoPropski 8 месяцев назад
Been setting up a World of Warcraft Controller Binding for awhile, and thanks to this I went from 8 Action Bar Slots to 16 For those curious cause WoW doesn't natively have Controller Support, and I'm running 3.3.5 WOTLK (NOT CLASSIC I'm on a Private Server, so this is the original WOTLK) which doesn't support Controller Mods period Instead I use the Bartender 4 mod/addon and set 8 action bars to have 3 slots each, then set 4 to vertical, and 4 to horizontal, and thanks to. BT4's snap mode I can make a cross by snapping a Vertical Action Bar inside a Horizontal one do this 4x, and size them up by 1.5x and BOOM I just recreated FFXIV's Controller UI which you can look that up for reference, now I just setup the D-Pad, and Face Buttons I set them all up 1-8, and then used an Action Layer and set them up again, but used Shift then 1-8 for each using the Sub-Command option for multiple buttons, then just changed the keybind with BT4's built in Keybind Setup (which is just click action bar icon, and then click the keybind you want it to be set to, so the D-Pad of choice, or Face Button) Now I just set the Action Layer activator to Hold and put it on the Left Shoulder Button, and done. Now that's just the tip of the iceberg, I setup Target Keybinds that target nearby enemies, that you can click to cycle, or hold to loot after your done with it, and I have Auto-Loot enabled, so it just pulls it all into my Bags That and so much more, tbh this is better then the Controller Mod I remember, and it's all in a Steam Deck, so I'm very happy with it. I especially like how because everything is layed out like a Controller UI, I don't need to think about what is where, or too many sub-commands I just click the associated button, and if need be use the mode shift to get the Action Layer which ALSO has every button layed out for convenience of sight
@NerdNest
@NerdNest 8 месяцев назад
Glad I could help.
@TopBadge
@TopBadge Год назад
This is great for setting up save state hot keys in emulators.
@ADreamingTraveler
@ADreamingTraveler 2 года назад
The Steam Deck just continues to impress me. When I think I've discovered everything it offers I find something new.
@EdKenUK
@EdKenUK 2 года назад
This is pretty cool!
@DevinBowen
@DevinBowen 2 года назад
Love it! Keep it up with the steam input gold! Does the deck have the ability to change the icon on the radial/touch menus?
@MrMasterKaio
@MrMasterKaio 9 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@schnier0179
@schnier0179 2 года назад
awesome can't wait
@Chris52
@Chris52 2 года назад
As I have never been a fan of the dpad there are certain games where I will have an action layer that temporarily converts one of the sticks to a dpad to select stuff (like Elden Ring which has a specific dpad quick-menu). Might also make one that swaps from gamepad style gameplay to gyro/mouse controls.
@mikairu2944
@mikairu2944 Год назад
holy shit this is next level. Trackpads with customizable actions should be a standard
@ActionJaxonH
@ActionJaxonH 2 года назад
Thank you so much! I made an action layer for Monster Hunter Rise where holding LT activates gyro for blademasters, but double clicking right analog switches to Gunner mode where both LT and RT activate gyro (also for Insect Glaive) but couldn't figure out how to do it on Deck
@kylebengzon5412
@kylebengzon5412 4 месяца назад
2024 and still useful Thanks for this
@gamingmimi2
@gamingmimi2 11 месяцев назад
Excellent tutorial on action sets. I would like to make a Subsistence action layer for my left track pad to bring up the map AND scan the entire map. Any ideas how? I’ve mapped (M) when clicking the left track pad brings up the map, but I can’t see anything other than my current area. This is an important action to be able to do.
@hervegirod1479
@hervegirod1479 Год назад
Hello, your videos are great! I used them to create two virtual menus depending on ActionSets on XCOM. However, I would have preferred to have two action layers inheriting from only one Action Set, and only set the menus depending on the activated layer. I there a way to set an action layer by default on an action set?
@digitalifted
@digitalifted Год назад
I am unable to modify the default settings in a game that has a game pad setting by such as Final Fantasy 14 using the action sets. Is there a way to over ride this?
@gamingmimi2
@gamingmimi2 5 месяцев назад
This video is amazing. Q: Say you wanted to use a radial action set to rotate objects in your hand. What PC keyboard commands would emulate do so on the Steam Deck? I.e. Forward, backward, right 90^ or 180^ flip, left 90^ or 180^ flip. Trying to build structures.
@Arzeefy
@Arzeefy 2 года назад
We need more steam input Tutorials 😅
@GlitzPixie
@GlitzPixie Год назад
this was like having my third eye opened
@Cra1gst
@Cra1gst 2 года назад
can you use this type set up to run macros multi buttons , and having toggle run on any game will be great
@FPChris
@FPChris Год назад
I use a wireless 360 controller to play Horizon Zero Dawn. I want to add a mouse aim on Left Trigger Full Pull. How would I do that?
@badmoose01
@badmoose01 Год назад
Is there any way to do a button combo? Like if l1 and r1 are their own inputs but you can activate a third input by clicking them both at the same time?
@NerdNest
@NerdNest Год назад
Yes. It’s called a button chord under the gear icon.
@JadesOfGrey
@JadesOfGrey Год назад
I bought Nights Into Dreams and the title screen says “Press Enter to start” and none of the buttons are mapped to Enter. I went into the controller setup just like in this video but I don’t see an option to set the Pause button for example as Enter. Can you describe exactly how to do that?
@Deli5150
@Deli5150 2 года назад
i really hope they make a steam controller V2
@gehtdianschasau8372
@gehtdianschasau8372 2 года назад
I like having options. I won't bother chaniging controls for every game, but for Elder scrolls like games, that i intend to play for hundreds of hours, i will do that, and i will also play around with frs and framerates. Is there any way to save a couple of power and control profiles for specific games? When i play skyrim at home on the deck, i don't care about power consumption and might play it with mouse and keyboard, on the road, i'd like different settings, also i need a higher frame rate with a racing sim than with a click and point adventure. It seems easy enough to change all that, but my personal perfect settings for a game, might be terrible for a different game.
@squizzlor
@squizzlor Месяц назад
Setting up these controls seems like a pain in the butt. But I feel like these advanced options will pay off, just it isn’t translating well so far.
@ThuisYoutube
@ThuisYoutube Год назад
Does anyone has more crashes with a heavy custom layout with radial menu's ? seems like if they are quite heavy with alot of bindings and all it will corrupt it and is prone to alot of crashing of the steamdeck
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