Too Much BASS??? Shure M44-7 vs. Ortofon Concorde MkII MIX 

Thanks for sharing this test 👍

Ottimo suono della shure m44-7 con bassi potenti

Cool to find your channel. I like trance too. Subbed. I've got the same Ortonfon mostly to play old vinyls. For turntablism VNL seems to be well liked.

A good, fair review. I have never owned Shure needles so can't offer any real input in terms of comparison with the Ortofons, which I do own (Mk1). I'm a little disappointed, though, that the sound test didn't include the first 20 seconds or so of the track because according to the waveforms there is a very pronounced difference between the two carts/needles. Can you explain what is going on there? Is it a boomy kind of distortion on the bassline of the track that is accentuated more by Shures relative to the Ortofons?

Great review! Would be really cool if you compared the spectrums as well!

hi, man....did the same test ...years ago, but with old eliptical stylus.... the elipticals will sound way better in definition and maybe in stereo separation than the m44, but elipticals tend to do a little more vinyl wear. The ortofon club sounds with a little more definition than the shures, but in the club...it depends on the sound system, not many can reproduce with so much definition as any monitor speaker. VTA and overhang angle with the m44 will not impact so much the audio, because the needles are very forgiving. BUT the corcorde not, fixed and the dependance with the tonearm its obvious... well...nice done man!!! Both of them will give you good results. i prefer more round sound, more bassy, so n44g and n447 for me. Even the shure encores sound nice on da club.... you need a pink or white noise vinyl :) and do the measures with measure mike. greetings from germany!!!

Will changing M447 with M44G stylus helps in comparing with the Concorde MIX? But in general I think elliptical needles do have an better impact retaining the original sound compared to spherical. The bad about elliptical is that it causes faster wear and tear. Correct me if I am wrong.

Do you know if we can put the stylus from the concorde mk2 scratch on the original scratch cart? the OM Scratch White one

Is that needle you're using on the M44-7 a Jico Club? Impressive how people talk about it, but seeing this comparison with an Ortofon MK2 Mix, I see Jico light years ago. It doesn't sound good at high frequencies, at least that's what I could see. I was disappointed in Jico's quality. I'm still using the original N44-7 that I have, both in the capsules and spares, in storage.

I think Shure has ceased production of all their cartridges, so they're basically EOL. But there are substitute styli made by brands like Jico for most Shure carts.

The Shure will sound better if you dont set it up like a straight tone arm. The way you have it tracking will make it sound worse than it really does.

I am a Die Hard Shure Man but when I bought Ortofons I immediately noticed the sound difference. Sound has more clarity with Ortofon. Biggest mistake most people make is not setting Antiskate to zero for Ortofons. Not Setting AntiSkate will definitely shred your vinyl into little pieces.

IMO the best sound quality dj cartridge is the Ortofon Club MKII. But only for mixing not scratching,due to the elliptical stylus.

wow the high hats sound sooooo much clearer on the m44-7, imo anyway! Still bought the concorde mix though. not shabby at all!

Just to join you on the nerd fest... I wonder if the twisted cartridge of the sure impacts the sound at all?

A song with vocals and guitar would've been much better for testing

The ortofons sound clearer on my headphones. Shure seems a tadd muddied

Shure sounds much better on that well played record

The Shure sound more bass