Hey everyone, to follow up on what I said at the start of the video, my primary goal is to provide the best content and information I can. On occasions when I feel that the data we have available isn't providing a clear, confident picture of where the meta is and what decks you can rely on, I will use my intuition to help craft the list. Thank you for being awesome
Considering the widening gap of card acquisition between new and older players, the longer the SD delays tweaking player credit/token gain and card series drops, the worse the quality of data is going to be for you going forward. Having *more new players* in the pool won't instantly give you "better data" for best decks. It'll be the same set of meta defining cards beating players who don't have those same meta defining cards.
It really doesn't matter..the game fixes your matches to be 50% winrate and keep you playing and moving up and down below infinite. It's such a slog grinding through all the retreat only fixed matches every season. That's the only reason they can give out the free gold because it ensures more playtime and engagement
One thing people didn’t think about with arishem is how important knowing what your opponent is playing is. The surprise factor and doc ock are the real reasons why arishem is so good.
The sad part that I have around 0% winrate around Arishem and it is just dumb like they can put 20+ power on 1 lane each turn starting from 4. And believe me EVERY Arishem player playing doc oc. There is no surprise factor at all. I know exactly all they cards like Blob and others. You just can't play around everything lol. Haha so funny...
@@MisterEO_YT Yes, but less so that. People need to remember the randomness really is a detriment that requires the deck to have a +1 max energy just so it can function. I've have games where my hand draw was so back that I couldn't play out any cards until turn 4. In normal decks, we can minimize this by choosing our own curve. Arishem forces a curve on you and you have no way of knowing whether its going to be good or not.
@@An.Unsought.Thought not at all. SD has been working the last 2 years to make bad and average cards better. Most cards that you play ahead of curve are lonely better than whatever your opponent can play. Playing cable on turn 1 is better than most 1 costs you play on 1. Playing cyclops on turn 2 is better than most 2 costs you’d play on turn 2. Arishem is a ramp deck with not enough downside. Other ramp decks were never played this much because of the frustrating downside. Arishem is “fun” because it feels good to be ahead 1 energy without the card play limitations, and ACTUALLY WIN. It’s no coincidence the number of 1st time infinite players because of Arishem. It’s a literal cheat code. Great card, but they likely should’ve released the card the way they plan to release Casandra nova. That way you had to compete to get such a broken, competitive card. That way fewer players have the card making it far less oppressive. You see this card every other rank match/conquest and it’s annoying practically playing 1 turn behind your opponent the entire game.
@MisterEO_YT thank God someone has critical thinking skills you know some dude tried to tell me to "stop relying on meta knowledge" in the context of not knowing what your opponent is playing ISNT a disadvantage...like what?! "You can't react to the unpredictable " lmao guy was delulu and clearly not budging but yeah it's ramp 100% and with tech cards plus loki, coulson and fury ..PLUS the potential strong generates by arishem. It's busted
It’s the simplest solution but instead they’re just introducing more elements to waste money on(Black Matte borders for 100 usd). Every time I get a gold ticket I report it as a bug and complain that I’d be happy with 50 gold instead of a gold ticket. Spotlight keys are clearly valued very highly by second dinner yet they give us only 1000 tokens as compensation for getting a card we already have. It should be 2000 at the very least, especially if every card going forward is going to be 6000.
Oh, I saw you talk about it briefly on a stream, but I would be curious to hear you discuss the spotlight cach variants being added to the store with Cozy on the next Snap Chat.
@Simply_Just considering what? The spotlight variants are in the store now for 2,400 gold. I believe the guy who first commented wants them to talk about how expensive they are not about this be done as it is already done.
Might be the only time where I can’t give ladder feedback because I’ve just been playing Conquest for that Colossus skin. There it’s mostly been Aris and Destroy. But Aris being top of ladder too suggests it’s not far off. And yes, I’m just throwing in Man-Thing to complete that mission. 😅
I’ve been playing a ton in high infinite, and I’m seeing Arishem in most of my games. He’s a lot of fun to play! But, I’m definitely seeing wayyyy too much of him. It feels really oppressive, especially when they play Loki on 3 or Leech on 4. Absolutely too strong rn, and I really think he needs nerfed. I doubt they will until end of August though, since he’s the new shiny toy
I lm seeing way too many Lokis created ay Arishem. 3 today but it really feels like it was stacked against me when they still got their loki. Also most phastos i see are created by Arishem so that feels bad too
My big beef is they get all these random cards with Arishem yet still somehow draw Loki + quinjet on curve and then literally every single counter card they need to casserole me lol. He should produce more random cards imo bc the draws are just way too consistent
@@tonyjabroni7205way too consistent! I've noticed that too. They seem to always have that double chang shi or double blob or whatever. Plus rogue never misses
I've play a bit of Surfer lately and personally I prefer the Hope variants over Sera. Getting Hope on 3 is less consistent than getting Sera on 5 but it's way more stats per energy as an individual card, doesn't lose to MMM, letting you spread plays over two turns generally makes it smoother, can sometimes let you fit in a turn 6 Forge+Brood or Shaw+Surfer if you're not copying Surfer and overall feels like it flows better imo. I can see how it'd be a bit weird to move away from Sera after playing her for so long and getting used to that gameplan though, understandable. All that fancy stuff aside though, Ima just slam Wong on the board and watch him print cubes for me lmao, this deck is so good.
Some of you players confuse “top decks of the week” with “Top Decks”. Even if the play rate of decks changes week to week, that doesn’t take away from the fact that decks from previous weeks are still REALLY GOOD and COMPETITIVE. You don’t need every single “shiny card” to be competitive. Now with that.. Arishem is a bit different, but with a lot of grind and a little luck, non-Arishem decks can still compete.
I like arishem but you put other tools in his kit like loki, leech and doc Oct and it becomes toxic. On turn 4 my opponent played doc Oct then he got a random Zola and proceeded block every lane I had. Don't forget about the new 10 power allioth
Great video! This is why I think the meta is in a healthy spot right now. That Arishem #1 deck you've shown? Worst performing one out of the ones I played 😂 And that's good cause it shows people don't have to just play one deck that's winning (like Thanos, Hela or Loki in the past!)
Don't know about anyone else, but personally this has been the most frustrating season to hit infinite. Made it through 70 to 90 in a few days and have spent over a week getting from 98 back to 90 and...yeah. I play an Arishem deck and literally every opponent also plays Arishem. I switch up to a Thanos/Lockjaw deck and all of a sudden, everyone is playing a destroy deck that you never see playing Arishem. Seems like anytime I switch up a deck that bots are playing a counter deck.
I've also noticed this I've not been playing arishem but I've been switching between surfer and a kitty thena deck and I'm struggling to get out of the 80's this season where as the last 2 seasons I've flew into infinite within the 1st week
@@KingDingHDgaming Right?! I've hit infinite fairly easily for months and it never felt unfair. It's pretty easy to tell when you're playing against bots vs humans but I know I've been playing against mostly bots and it's kinda ruining the fun of the game.
All of these decks have either season pass cards or spotlights that are at first low scored. Then turn to must haves. You literally have to be a whale or have cards gifted to you to keep up in this game anymore. I wish card acquistion would have stayed the way it was before spotlights. At least then you had a chance at getting new cards. Even with spotlight, it's still 50/50. Idk I just wish I enjoyed the game still. Been on a break for a bit but feel like I'm not missing it.
always a pleasure to watch your videos, brother. glad that your love for the game brought you to providing such quality content for us marvel snap fans
Truth is that statistics from platforms like untapped only tell one side of the story since I believe most people playing from tablets and phones instead of pc. Great video alex, love these types of videos :D That surfer list is amazing and even though I wish Makkari was 3k I believe copy cat would be the ultimate replacement in that spot in a few days! Gwen made surer fun again and I'm loving it epesially because it doesn't run sera. For some reason I hate just playing sera on 5 but that's just me.
First time since starting playing the game I was playing a top 10 deck before it got to Alex’s Saturday video. Well, almost. I run Cosmo in Ajax deck, because I still don’t have Nocturne. Close enough for me. Thanks for the list, Alex 👍🏻.
ajax rocked me from 81-infinite in record time. bro is way better than 10, i think a bunch of baddies are dragging it down, he's very good but a little "plan ahead" for endgame type card
I’m currently climbing with Ajax. I think it’s good, it is very straightforward. I switched Nocturne (still don’t have her) for Cosmo, to protect my Ajax. Works really well. What’s interesting - almost no one is running Luke. I think next week we could see Mr Cage more often.
I tried that DH deck with WB sub for Sage but it was hard to get vertical enough at times Maybe have been a skill issue. Honestly but my win rate was 45%. Switched to Surfer bird hawk and jumped to 67% win rate + 21 cubes. But Im a lot more experienced with surfer
Arishem is definitely not broken or dominant to the point of needing a nerf. He can be beat by really reliable decks and since it's RNG heavy you can just get bad cards and draw bad. Junk also is effective since you clog their board so they can't cheat out these good cards 1 or 2 turns early.
LoL love how EVERYONE said "Arishem will be fun to play, but not a meta card". Just about all the content creators were completely wrong. Keep that in mind when listening to their "hot takes" on new cards.
Your reviews are amazing, but it seems like Nocturne is a staple in 9 out of 10 decks. It would be great if you could offer us more alternatives to play around with.
Feels like Sage and Thena are in every meta deck at the moment to the point where not having them feels like a distinct disadvantage. Based on reviews of those cards at the time, nobody seemed to know how impactful they would be.
I'm not sure I like Lockjaw cycling every card played into it each round... before they took him out back with Ole Yeller, I had really gotten used to dumping a stone and Cull Obsidian. It was a great way to get Cull out.
Part of the problem is that we need better deck trackers. I only play on my android phone and the deck tracker stopped working for that and hasn't been fixed in ages.
Spent all my gold to get the spotlight key for him but don't have nearly as many options at level 1200 any advice for a new player to make arishem work without loki or blob
Same. I haven’t been collection complete since Valentina. I was at a point where I had to be more considerate of my resources and it sucked losing collection complete. Since then I skipped Bob and Makarri(might be my only regret if any). I’ve considered just going full F2P since the devs don’t want us to be collection complete unless we drop more money on top of the season pass which is ludicrous.
@@Moddox77 I haven’t been collection complete EVER, it’s absurd. I’m happy that we get new cards as consistently as we do, but the cache system needs to be halved or something. Getting a key every 125 levels or whatever it is is way too much. Especially when I have a 1/4 chance to get the new card in the first place.
@@braytastic thing is they’ve stated they don’t want people to be collection complete or people were becoming collection complete too quickly in the previous system. Their excuse is because they want people to have “unique and different card collections” which is bullshit. Remember when the spotlight changes were first introduced and we were getting 50 tokens in regular caches?! They sure changed that quickly. They could’ve done that this whole time with gold tickets or the 1000 tokens in spotlight caches but they won’t because of “unique collections” or in other words, drop more money if you want to have every card.
I just passed 10k and I have almost every card that I really want to have. Still need sage and mockingbird but most of the other stuff I'm missing isnt really important. Hit monkey would be kinda decent but I don't know if I'd play it much.
@@batmanwins5701 Congrats man! It does feel damn good when you can play what you wanna play, staying on top of it is a brutal journey though lmao. Sage is SO much fun would strongly recommend saving your tokens for her next.
What would you recommend as a replacement to Sage in the on-reveal Namora deck? You talked about how people hasn't bought Namora, but often I think the issue is that not many people were able to buy Namora, Sage AND Nocturne, and they often go together
I think the untapped statistics aren't where they used to be because of the inability for mobile (on Android anyway, don't know about iPhones) to run the untapped tracker on their phone. I hardly ever play snap on my PC so mobile only players aren't being represented
I understand the reasoning behind low statistics to remove cube and win rate, however when talking about each deck you would still mention if the deck have a good cube and win ratio, so I feel like there is no reason to exclude the information from the decks. Have the warning in the beginning of the video, but please keep the info about the win and cube rate. Or perhaps add "low stats data" or something when/if needed.
Yea I am exited too, I am missing card for every deck though so I would not try is and this video for me is useless but it's only my problem I quess...
I'm literally only missing mockingbird from these decks I've got her pinned and im not far off the tokens to grab her hopefully with the token tuesdays i should have her by the end of the season
Cards generated by Arishem does not count for the weekend challenge 🤷🏽♂️ I know because I have drawn it a few times, won the match, but my counter is still at zero 😅
I think Arishem got secretly nerfed. His power and text hasn’t changed but he stopped generating good cards since the update. It seems like I get nothing but dead cards now.
I was using untapped until it stopped working on Android and I guess a lot of people are in the same situation so I'm always hesitant when it comes to untapped statistics... My Windows PC has no idea what Snap is...
Is Nocturne the best card in the game? its one of the only cards I don't have and Everyone is running this card. I was trying to save up for Sersi but I guess I need to prioritize Nocturne.
Basically Nocturne is the new Jeff. It almost fits every deck, it is 5 power You can move, while getting it on the board as early as turn 3. It can also reset unfavorable location. It is a perfect support card. I skipped it and now I’m saving tokens to get it. Next on my list.
Hi sir, new player here just started playing 4 days ago. I reached Infinite rank with collection level of 227. Mainly using onreveal cards from starter decks. Any advice how to win more since every match in infinite rank I see new cards I haven’t seen like ever. Thanks
Congratulations on reaching Infinite after starting the game. Unfortunately in Infinite You are matched to players with higher collection levels, differently than when You climbed. The only way is trying to get new cards, that are introduced every week, but only the good ones. How to distinguish good from bad? That is the question, that every Snap player asks every week. I advise to watch Alex, Cozy, Dekkster and KM Best content. You should also try to acquire older cards, that have proven quality like Jeff, Hope, Nocturne, Thena and so on. It is a bumpy road, sometimes frustrating, but after few months it will give results. If You stick around. Good luck 👍🏻
I'd recommend you DON'T try to hit infinite as an early player. I'm sure playing non-infinite players might be too easy or boring but you will most likely get blown out by infinite players with more cards than you being a lower collection level.
@@outphase78 I strongly disagree. When You climb, You are matched with players of comparable Collection Level. You learn to play Your standard, low-level deck. You earn valuable rewards, like credits, variants, gold. It doesn’t matter, that in Infinite You’ll get smoked. Your goal for the season is complete and rewards are Yours. In Infinite You can then gain experience, learning how cards You don’t own works, see cool new combos and interactions with locations. Without any penalty, cause once You’ll get to Infinite, You stay there, till the end of the season. Also, next season, You’ll start higher on the ladder. After You’ll grow Your collection, You’ll be able to challenge more number of players in Infinite. But those sweet cardbacks, that You have earned on Your way, will stay in Your collection forever.
@@Mr_Paw_revised Thanks alot, I will definitely stick around. As you said I started watching these youtube videos for help. My competitive self just cant accept losing hahaha
@@outphase78 I understand but I kind of enjoying playing in infinite rank though Im mostly getting blown away since Im learning new cards. Thanks alot 😊
Save your tokens because there will be a card that you will regret not having tokens for in the future. If you really want to waste your tokens then mockingbird as white widow will probably get nerfed.
I cam back to the game a few weeks ago and thought that Hope Summers seemed really strong and pinned the card. I now have 6k tokens. Is she worth it? Just feels bad because iv just found out she was a season pass card 🤦♂️. (I have a few decks she would fit in) oh finally, shes not downgrading to series 4 anytime soon?
@@KingDingHDgaming awesome, Thank you for letting me know! I don’t have all the cards. But i think i could make an average silver surfer deck. Can’t believe how many new cards there are now lol
Hope is a 5 star card. It’s really, really good. I don’t think she will get to series 4 until next year. From the beginning Angela and Kitty formed a new package with her. Now it also has Thena. This synergy is crazy good. Anyone not having Hope should prioritize getting her. Before Nocturne, Sage, Red Hulk, Mockingbird etc. But it’s just my opinion.
@@TranceVivi Good for You 👍🏻 I think You’ll be very pleased with the quality of Hope. She’s good in Surfer - sometimes this one extra energy lets You play Surfer with Absorbing Man or Nova, Killmonger, Surfer. Hope also fits in large number of decks, that really like ramp style play. Good luck and have fun 😉
I'm a bit disappointed with the best decks of this week. Very little variety, basically all the decks had the same cards: Kitty, Angela, Thena, Jeff, Hope and Nocturne Also this might be the first week that there isn't a destroy deck 😮
@@YebisuLxckNot the guy but I'm 13,000 CL and I'm missing cards in every single of these decks. Doesn't help that Nocturne was downtalked a lot by everyone and she is in literally every single deck lol. But even then it's just Hope Summers, Gwenpool, Sage, Thena in every other deck.
@deliro8758 same w me, but I'll be able to get all of them in about 3 days time, the game does also make you have to gather your recourses and save them, the game is f2p if you just save and use at the right times.
Yeah screw this game. Arishem is legit busted and really makes it not fun Oooo Nova coming out soon big whoop 😂 its not gonna do shi to counter that +1 energy
Ask 2nd dinner to release the raw numbers for us to analyse. Ive played a game that developed its own community around that as everyone went to analyse the true data.
This game has snowballed too far to be able to catch up on the series 5 cards. I enjoy the game a lot and will continue. I just feel upset knowing that I don't have widow, nocturne, sersi, ajax, and others because I just did not have the money or the keys. I wish I got new cards from caches at least every 100 opens? lol. Idk, maybe I am asking too much for a F2P. But I have put a good amount of time and even some money into the game and still find that the game is getting harder to track with.
It's a huge problem that every single meta deck has at least 2 cards from the last 2 seasons in it. Card acquisition has to change or the game will just drift into pay to win territory.
Nocturne is more versatile, she can go in many decks. Thena is specifically better with the Angela/Kitty package. Choose whichever type of playstyle you prefer.
I feel like you're wrong about arishem not being as oppressive as some of the other decks that have come out. Doc oc has been a menace so I made a deck just to counter arishem which has been working really well
It is not oppressive at all. Loki/Collector was far more oppressive. You couldn't counter it at all. Darkhawk and Mobius alone will counter Arishem and we are still waiting for that Cassandra card to come out (which is more so the Mobius to Arishem's Loki). Arishem has enough randomness that its not oppressive.
I refuse to believe that namora and surfer are doing good with everyone using doc oc on turn 3 and a maybe more than one...cause of course they got another copy with it
God Damn!! I wasted my only 3 keys trying to get Arishem and git two double variants and 2k collector tokens... that is so F**ked! Arishem is practically a must have!
I have Arishem, but don’t have Loki, Blob and Legion. So I don’t really play it when I’m climbing. I only play Arishem after getting Infinite, just for fun.
