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Of course it would. That was never the discussion. The disagreement was about the need to have both conditions noted. Or whether "no mana was spent to cast it" also includes that it wasn't cast.

Yeah weird

Reading comments full of typos is really frustrating 😅

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​@@saltandpauperyes it was cast, Plotting counts as a cast

Yeah that was always understood. But mayos stance was that "pay no mana to cast it" and "wasn't cast" are the same thing. So there was no need to put both. I was saying it does need both since they are different conditions.

It's brand new for thunder junction. I'm not a huge fan of key wording it. But it'll just be for this set so hopefully won't be too much of a pain to remember

de nada! estou tão feliz por ter pessoas de todo o mundo assistindo meus vídeos de indigentes :)

So for reference there was no intention to make him look clueless or discredit him. We've been friends a very long time and it was all in light hearted fun. Neither of us have hurt feelings regardless of whom was right/wrong there. I was honestly caught completely off guard. As those 2 conditions are not the same thing and neither encompasses the other. The idea that he suggested is saying a spell that hasn't been cast also counts as a spell that was cast without paying mana. Those just simply aren't the same thing. Lol

Friends is a strong word 😜. I maintain what I said as I thought it was clear. The card is good but has a superfluous bit of text

@@mayonaise000 you're right I should've said besties 🤣

@@saltandpauper and yes I get that it was in jest

Yeah I think it'll have some cool spots to try out!

I don't think the card is good enough.

I think the more nuanced comment is that the wording on this card is dumb because Magic is getting out of hand with its copy on cards. Sooooo wordy

@@rebelresource that's an excellent point. I could totally support an argument that the phrase no mana was spent to cast it. Should have been phrased "was cast without paying mana" to clarify things a bit.

Sounds super interesting! Having any luck?

@@saltandpauper It is, and it works for sure, im youst not sure how to place it to get the most out of it. If you are intrested in checking the current build out search for "Watz" at mtggoldfish the decks name is Eurekas teaching. Atm the deck rampa and untap bouncelands to generate value. Not sure if the ramp is nessesarry actualt, might be able to cut green and go full control or something. Would ramp upp the fun atleast, maybe play Skred 🤔 The deck seems to play good against meta decks, but maybe they youst get a bad draw. Gonna try to drop green and go for a build looking more like old mysticalT, see how it performs.

I think casting only as a sorcery is bad design. I would've liked to be able to plot any speed spell and cast it "at any time you could normally cast it"

🤣🤣 desertwalk is indeed punishing haha

Definitely.

Could be. I think as Josh said, it the only single upgrade this set affords is which is staggering.

Hard agree! It's really disappointing to see so little from this set! I had high hopes.

Oh no, you're not allowed to do infinite combos? this set sucks

@@557deadpool it's not necessarily about infinite combos. It's more the added mental tax of tracking arbitrary things such as "did this trigger once this turn yet" magic is already an incredibly complex game. Taking effects like this and adding the additional tax of tracking their instances of triggers and amount of triggers as a way to balance powerful effects feels like a cop out at the expense of the player. I'd rather them just have less powerful effects in the first place that aren't limited

I would agree. The argument from Josh was that the "no mana was spent to cast it" clause is included in the "wasn't cast" wording. Which I disagreed with. He's saying that one wasn't needed since the other covers both. I was saying both are needed as they are different conditions

That's a really good was of phrasing it. Wish I'd have thought of that in the moment lol

We've gotten a few single cards here and there for sure. But yeah. But let down on this one!

well it's not quite thrashing brontodon. lol. its just a 2/2 for 2. And admittedly I just don't think that's good enough right now. If it sees play id be pretty surprised seeing as how we have troublemaker ouphe and that barely sees play.

@@saltandpauper coming back here in a month to prove you wrong

@@MagicPlayer17 I'm super for that! For the love of magic wizards just give us naturalize on an ETB creature!

im sorry it came across that way.

That is a little over the top. You should come back and check it out again anyway.

@@ethanjohnson2849 thanks for the vote of confidence :)