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yeah it was a joke, they were being sarcastic or smthn but if you read on what they said about the hoop in an interview you can easily tell it's a joke.
I could see what they were trying to do. Once you beat the game and your sitting there in wonder and awe of finally seeing the outside world in Portal for once the illusion is broken by a big wheel coming out of nowhere and crashing in front of you. Now I aint saying this a GOOD joke or even really had the potential for a meme when you have cake and Hearty boxes. But I would feel bad for that one random valve employee that thought this was a good idea to feel like his idea was COMPLETELY overlooked.
I always naturally interpreted it just as a consequence of the counter's overflow. As in, it might have been even just 10thousand days, but if the counter's max value were 9999, this is what would happen, the readout voice would just get stuck on saying 9.
@@Tracktark because maxvalue overflows can do strange things. we don't know how their datatype for counting the time is implemented, and how the conversion to voice is implemented. i don't know, it just seemed like a plausible thing for my surface-level thought, 15 years of programming experience, abd assuming that the system controlling the facility has some scifi quirks in its implementation
i love how Valve went to the trouble of setting Portal and Half-Life in the same universe, seemingly build up the potential for some sort of crossover.........and then set Portal 2 50,000 years apart from the first game to make sure that never happened
He mentions in the video that it's deliberate. They never went to any trouble to tie them together. They used assets from Half-Life 2 in Portal out of necessity and worried people would notice so they rationalized it by putting them in the same universe. They never really wanted that to be the case, so in order to distance them they had Portal 2 begin in the far future.
Senpai He collapses from bullet wounds into a relaxation vault, it’s very likely that the reserve power would run to at least two rooms if wired to one area
Jensen Peacock Also reminder when Wheatley splits the one test chamber to make an exit for Chell if you quickly look you see a test subject darting through it
The announcer saying “9” over and over again is probably because it is confused, as it probably wasn’t programmed to go over 10,000 days. That’s about 27 years, and probably when it decided to wake chell up, as it couldn’t count anymore, or it ran out of power.
Also you can see that in the end of the game, when chell is released to that corn field, you can see that the metal of the cabin is in relatively good condition Metal starts to deterioate after some thousands of years, and that metal looks relatively fine Indicating that the announcer voice was just a error, and they probably decided to change how much time passed between portal 1 and 2 at development
@@corvetaumbr2410 yea and the rest of the facility would look waaaay more destroyed than what it is in game. 10,000 days is only a little more than 27 years, the overgrowth and decay looks about right for that time period of abandonment ngl
Stefan Constantin Dumitrache Quite funny. Maybe valve likes to do stuff like that. They make 2 games but never the third. No halflife 3, no Left for dead 3, no portal 3, no orange box 3 etc...
Crowbar collective : we made a cool game re release Valve.: but its our game Crowbar collective :we changed it slightly abd added some tiny things Valve: aye , fair nough.demomanmeme
i think you meant to say: Narbacular Drop team: We made this cute little game as a school project. Valve: Neat idea, we'll hire you to do literally any game you want, what do you say? Narbacular Drop team: Sweet, we say we do this exact idea, but better, and we'll name it Portal! (unless my information is incorrect...?)
50,000 Years? I don't think much of the facility would be left at that point. About 200 years sounds more plausible because it seems like plants have started to grow there fairly recently.
27 years is the most viable option. The computer speaks in days, not years. Assuming the computer wasn’t programmed to go over 10,000 days, it make sense on why it kept saying “9” over and over again, as it is confused. It isn’t exact, but even with the thing running on 1.1 volts, it couldn’t possibly last over 40 years. Especially considering the “stasis sleep” can literally preserve life for that long without cryogenics.
Yep. A few decades would be enough for nature to reclaim that facility as we saw it. In 50,000 years there would be nothing left. Remember, even ancient Egypt is around 5,000 years old in the oldest parts and look how little remains. In a desert with no water. Built in stone. Even the human species is only around 10,000 years old. Also, on a millennial timescale, someone would have found the facility long since. It's too big, even underground. You can believe a couple decades, but not millennia.
Fellow Citizen Those plants wouldn’t have been growing non stop for 50,000 years. That’s not how plants work. Those plants might only be a season or so old, but be the offspring of several thousand generations of such plants. The real question is.... if it’s been anything like that long it’s odd that Wheatley and Space core would encounter 60s style astronauts in the vicinity of the moon or earth
DrewLSsix I know that, Imean the way the pictures show the current length, not that I was talking about how they would have Been nonstop. I’m just saying how if its been that long why would the plants be like that
You're sitting watching E3 2019 The trailer for some boring irrelevant Battle Royale game just finished The lights dim The Portal logo fades in 3 more words appear underneath "The card game"
In Portal 1 GLaDOS when seeing how much chell want to escape from facility, she tells chell that "I have an infinite capacity for knowledge, and even I'm not sure what's going on outside.", it can means a lot, if half-life 2 takes place the same time as portal, it means combine invaded at that time. 25.000 - 50.000, yet when GLaDOS (spoiler !) send us to the exit doors by elevator, we see beautiful sky, wheat and overall life. what can that means? WE DEFEATED COMBINE INVASION
3:47 F-Stop is a photographic term related to high dynamic range photography. The "F-Stop" mechanic in this version of Portal 2 could be related to a visual effect. Also note the term "Aperture"
7:55 I would like to share some brain, but here are my opinions and thoughts: 1. Wheatley mentions that the reserve power went out, suggesting the main power went out earlier, which could be what maintained the main facility. 2. The upper areas are terrible indicators, but the underground 1950s area would not hold up for 50.000 years and still be safe and functional, being a big point as to why I believe it was 9 years. 3. Valve has previously made drastic changes from early development to late product(example F-stop - Portal 2) so 50.000 to 9 years is totally possible.
Wait... WHAT IF Valve hasn't released Half-Life 3 because they have a grudge against us for not making hoopy the hoop a meme!?!?!?!?!? They are making us wait for it just like they waited for us!!!!
9:33 Chances are he accidentally inhaled moon dust. At a particle level, moon dust has a bunch of jagged edges and will tear the hell out of your lungs.
There's no way it's been more than 20 years or so. After 20 000 years there would be nothing working, most of the stuff would be corroded or decomposed and everything would be covered in thick layer of soil and plants. Look at photos from Chernobyl. It's been about 30 years since it was abandoned and it looks pretty much the same as Aperture Labs in Portal 2.
europeankid98 if I looked at the plants shown in the couple of photos on portal 2, I’d say around 20, less or more. my grandma grows vine plants and they grown way more than that over 2 years
You can’t even justify that it’s underground, as even abandoned mines will deteriorate that fast. The very latest you can push it is maybe 100 years, if we give it some plot armor
One...two....uhh...two point one..and thats it. *portal's developer hates the number 3. He worked on windows (insert here) 1, 2 and 2.1 before getting fired*
That still makes no sense, though. Who would program something to stop counting at a specific number rather than just allowing it to count all the way up to 2 billion or so? (After all, that's the maximum amount that a signed integer can hold)
A random thought that came to my mind last night. Let's say after Chell defeats GLaDOS in the first Portal game she wasn't dragged back to the facility, she and Rat man are finally free from Aperture but they most likely: A) Killed or enslaved by the combine. B)Eaten by the xen creatures like Head Crabs and Antlions. C)fail to find food in the abandoned and destroyed cities they would most likely come across. Portal 2 truly was the perfect ending since thanks to Gordon Freeman the combine is no more and earth would've been back to it's original state before the seven hour war during those 20000-50000 years, and at least Rat Man died in his sleep, a calm and relaxing death.
7:45 "given how the facility is so heavily overgrown in Portal 2 I think a fair estimate would be between 20000-50000 years". You have clearly never owned a house with a garden.....
Portal 2 is soooo good! Now I just want portal 3... and Half-life 3, and left4dead3 and possibly TF3. But Valve is just really allergic to the number 3
Even though the chell story is done, as the devs have said many times, I would love a game where you are an aperture science employee, where you are there on the day GLadOS is activated, and you have to escape the facility using the portal gun and maybe even a real gun
+Kiuraz Wow you got me there man, I was going to search for the voice actor, "Chell's voice actor". But before pressing search I said to myself, "Hey they never speak.." L.O.L
***** and the furniture? Do you really think average furniture from the 60s would last more than a few centuries especially the bed from the beginning of the game? Or all the test Chambers and the huge *METAL* spheres filled with water or some kind of acid? Not to forget that this is a salt mine. And all the electricity still works, even all the lights. Not to forget, Today's concrete and cement doesn't even lasts that long. And those science project potatoes would be dust after such a long time Yes, quite a bit of time has passed, probably around 150 years, but 50000 is just ludicrously overestimated
***** oh yeah they probably filled the whole facility with ember... Also the half life (no pun intended) of Plutonium-239 which is used in nuclear reactors is only about 25000 years... So yeah after 50000 years there wouldn't be anything left to fire up the reactor again
***** Some of the potatoes we're still intact and have not degraded since before the first game (the bring your daughter to work day). They hadn't degraded so much. Talk about your plot oversights from valve. and infact, it's only the facitlity ABOVE Chell's overgrown potatoe that had, well, overgrowth which is consistant from the shrubbery overgrowth comming off from the potatoe.. Valve like to leave things open and not say anything specific. They very rarely tie their hands. It's entirely possibly it's only been a matter of weeks/couple of years - and they'll use the magic overgrown potatoe theory to explain the damage, (if 'they' wanted to)
I totally agree that 50000 years is unrealistic even in terms of fiction. There was this one documentary that speculated on what would happen with earth if all humans suddenly disappeared and apparently according to their research even cities like New York would submerge and erode in terms of centuries at the maximum. Just for comparison 50000 years ago first humans of our species left Africa. This would mean that another history of modern man would pass before the events of Portal 2. That just seems weird, sorry.
The old pyramids and buildings are still in shape from thousands of ur ago. There's no wind or rain underground, so the facilities would have stayed in shape.
What if it only takes place 20 years in the future, and the "apocalyptic scenario" in Portal 2 was the combine invasion in Half-Life 2? They do take place in the same universe...
It's not logically correct, Portal 1 takes place before the events of Half-Life 2 (It's likely to be set during the events of Half-Life Alyx). The facillity in Portal 1 was left untouched by the combine for some reason, and Portal 2 takes place after Half-Life 2, so it's unknown what time range Portal 2 is in. People have been speculating that Portal 2 takes place far, far away in the future, it could take place when the Combine has been entirely wiped off the earth, or the Combine has successfully extorted Earth of its resources.
@@literallyglados because Glados says this: "Are you trying to escape? Things have changed since the last time you left the building. Whats going on out there will make you wish you were back in here. I have an infinite capacity for knowledge, and even i'm not sure what's going on outside. all i know is i am the only thing standing between us, and THEM."
System freezing up maybe? Maybe he was going to say 'Ninehundredand-whatever' but the system froze and said '99999,9...9' instead. Similar to when a game freezes and the soundclip keeps going.
Yeah, it's dumb. That's why I hate how you can hear Ratman in Portal 2. He should be dead. I'm fine with some abandoned dens, but having him being alive is nonsensical.
I dont think it would take 20k years for the facility to overgrow. 100-200 years would have been enough, especially when considering the radiation of the Back Mesa accident.
yea but remember it was overgrown as well in the deepest parts of the facility. Thousands of feet underground. So maybe it could have taken that long to grow all the way down and out through the facility.
Plants wouldn't have just started growing. The facility was a clean and sterile place miles and miles underground, all metal, concrete and stone. To have all the metal and concrete walls oxidate and break down and have plants grow through would indeed take thousands of years I think.
I’ve always thought that portal 1 takes place soon after or during the 7 hour war/portal storm period. Then portal 2 takes place 20 years after the first game cause 50000 years is way too much
As for number seven, this is actually probably Rattan's insane ghost rambling in one of his hiding places he found when he was alive, the main price of evidence being that the song played is called "Rattman's Ghost". Also, it had been several millennia between the events of the comics and the second game, so unless he somehow also put himself in a stasis chamber, or he died.
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In portal 1 Glados had a line that said "bring you daughter to work day is a good day to get her tested" so I wonder if that's how Chell became a test subject
My favorite Hoop joke is in Portal Stories: Mel where you find a hidden room with a hoop and the current commentary provider asks why they would think anyone would find it funny. (If you love puzzles, play that, and play it on advanced mode for the true challenge; it's amazing)
Also interesting: at the end of Portal you get a personal file from GLaDoS, in which she sings some kind of poem. In this poem, she references Half-Life extremely clearly: she names Black Mesa as a place, followed by "just kidding".
Honestly the 99999 Theroy i would like to agree but i just feel the facility would be almost completly gone and nothing would be distinguishable by 50k years
DSC | B34tZ i agree with that because there were no people after glados kill all AS employees so no one could clean those plants. And AS was very healthy with fresh, cleaned air and such natural light. Glados confirmed this in one chapter but i dont remember this well. And i agree with software try to said 9 years or months and got lagged because of low power level.
the 273 year max more sense using the deterioration of the facility and the fact that when Chell leaves the elevator in the second one all signs of the buildings is gone and fields of wheat now grow. 27k years the facility would be nothing but dust and any power system would be long exhuasted or broken down.
Here's the only correct answer: In the last act of the CO-OP mode, you can hear GLaDOS say the facility has been out of order since 50000 years. This decision was made so as not to conflict with the events from Half Life. If you do not believe me, either watch Let's Plays or play the CO-OP yourself until the end.
I find it funny how these facts go from "the rat man could be alive" to "portal 2 happens 50,000 years after portal" as if those don't imply the other couldn't happen.
Most people ask this: who was dragging Chell at the end of Portal? Answer: We don’t know but it’s most likely the _Party Escort bot_ . This is evidenced because at the end of Portal as soon as Hoopy the Hoop falls in front of Chell, the subtitles say: “Party escort submission position” And then the Party Escort bot ‘escorts you to the party’.
or rattman is controlling the robot and dragging chill back in because he's messed in the head and is really playing a huge game we also know he's not right in the brain because he doesn't know the number 3
Little known fact: Hoopy the hoop was a prototype for portals. In the end, only the shape was reused and Hoopy the hoop was pushed aside and forgotten. Sad, but true story.
For #5, in portal 1 GLaDOS actually said “bring your daughter to work day is a great time to have her tested”. Maybe she really was just abandoned like GLaDOS said?
No.5 makes more sense than what I thought before. In the first portal glados talks about some daddy daughter day where you could even get your daughter tested at tested her voice drops so nice catch! I never knew that!
My theory is that ratman was the father of chell, when GLaDOS started to kill everyone and take their kids as subjects ratman escaped into his first den where he found a companion cube to keep him sane, over time as GLaDOS tried to find him, he kept switching dens, sending SOS singles and sneaking out to find remaining food, and at one point made chell the last test subject, when chell defeated GLaDOS, he was overjoyed on his own daughter he made the painting you see in the first or second chapter of portal 2, several years after putting chell back to sleep, all the food was gone and he was about to die, so he decided to get several tape recorders and put them in walls to convey messages to anyone who finds them, at last he passed away in an unknown spot, did he fall down into the abyss? Fall over into the fire? We will never know.
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To me, the 50000 years is bullshit. Considering all the events (athmosferical like wheater, or any other things that could have happened in world) I don't really think that the facility could survive that long. The conditions of the structure are not that bad, plants grow pretty fast if no one touches them, in 50000 i think the whole facility would have been completely destroyed and buried under lots and lots of sand and earth. The 99999... thing it's just an error handling of the computer, trying to say an approximate time (it could be that the time passed is so much that it overflowed the capacity of calculating of the computer, or the computer just got an error due to the bad conditions of the facility). I mean, what kind of tecnology can survive and still be operative after 50000 years???
I played the portal add on which actually features Mell. It actually takes place in between portal 1 and 2 and answers a lot of questions like how Chell wakes up. I highly suggest it! Its very fun, the characters are memorable, as usual, it keeps the same mechanics and is actually quite short. I’m pretty sure it counts as cannon as well.
I dont know why but does anybody feel something really sad about portal? The game really makes me feel lonely somehow. Maybe it is just the voice of GLaDOS, or how she is keep talking as if my character is about to answer her, which she never does. And, thinking that portal 2 takes place 50000 years in the future, where everything that you know is completely gone, not even sure if people still live or speak the same language. There is somehow something very melancholic about the game.
I highly doubt that 50,000 years actually passed. with 50 millenia there would be pretty much no possible trace of the facility, based on real overgrowth statistics. Based on the size of the lab, the disrepair, and the vegetation growing in it, I'd say it's closer to 500-1,000 years after the first wake-up call.
For how long it is between portal 1 and portal 2, if you ever seen the show "life after people" you'd know that much damage to a building can occur after only 300 years, with 50,000 years pretty much being the whole place collapses
Agreed. As I ranted in the comment chain a few comments above this, there are still metal girders floating in the damn corrosive goo in old Aperture. I also find it rather unlikely that any electronics would work after a couple decades. Some of the old Aperture equipment I can understand, since the stuff built in the 50's was designed to withstand a lot more punishment, but intricate miracles of "advanced electro-mechanical engineering" probably wouldn't last a decade without maintenance. I get it's a game, but jesus fuck, what a way to crush your suspension of disbelief.
I imagine that the reason Aperture is so damaged at the start of Portal 2 is from age and possibly the dimensional storms that ravaged Earth after the Black Mesa incident.
