Top 10 Hardest Gym Leaders 

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Please continue the Pokémon types then vs now series

We don’t talk about Miltank

This needs to be more popular 😂

She wasn't even hard...

@@Necroverse19 With prepararyion she's easy. Most people who didnt know her team or dont plan struggle with her. The machop trade and a female geodude. most people don't do in game trades and only use new pokemon introduced in a gen for their first run. miltanks stats, and attract can cancel the predominantly male starters makes it difficult to fight her

​@@Necroverse19honestly I agree, she's more so frustrating than hard

Lmao true

This comment made my day.

he's already done a lot of list videos before tho

Fr like they said that totk Ganondorf is THE hardest Zelda boss like I get it that he's kinda hard but HARDEST is a stretch

​@AMindnamedAdamlately? it was already bad and missinformative 10 years ago lmao

First thing I remember was whoever had Milank 😭😭😭

Yeah i’ve just started cheesing it tbh. I let her rollout get out on an onix since it can easily tank and spam screeches with onix, then switch to a heracross (or any fighting type, I just love hera) and one shot it😭

I recently started to play pokémon soul silver for the first time, and she completly destroyed me in the first battle. I won the second time, but my luck with the other gym leaders isn't doing much better 🥲

Idk...I kinda disagree. By that logic, if you pick Charmander and need to catch a water/grass Pokémon to beat Brock...does that make him a tough fight? Kinda...but I think if only having one specific Pokémon allows you to sweep the fight...then that fight was pretty easy. If you need to assemble a whole crew with different types and coverages...that's a tough fight.

nah that doesn't work here, pokemon has type effectiveness for a reason

In line with Lenora, I literally have never had a problem with her, I just...use STAB moves to hit her hard.

@@zeked4200Brock is definitely hard if you didn’t start with Bulbasaur or Squirtle because you’d then need to catch a specific Pokémon to beat him consistently. You can still beat him with a Charmander tho

@@zeked4200 Brock's difficulty really depends on your starter. Brock is a pushover if you chose Squirtle or Bulbasaur, but if you chose Charmander, then he definitely is a hard fight. I say this as someone who picked Charmander as my first ever starter. I remember my Charmander evolved into Charmeleon before I could beat Brock. Brock is so early in the game that your options to deal with him are very limited unless you picked a starter that's good against him. So for people who chose the starters that are good against him, he's an easy fight, but for those like me that picked Charmander, he's definitely a hard fight. Compare this to say, Blaine. By the time you get to him, there's so many options at your disposal to deal with him. In fact, you can't even get to Blaine without a Pokémon that knows Surf, so by the time you get to him you already have a counter pretty much guaranteed. So I'd say Blaine is an easy fight. Regardless of what Pokémon you have on your team, you definitely have the means to beat him without much trouble. I think the principle to keep in mind is that each player will have a different team when they reach that gym leader, thus a fight is easy if most regular team compositions can handle it easily, but it's difficult if most team compositions you could have by that point of the game struggle with it. If it's a fight that's very hard unless you go out of your way to seek a specific counter, then it isn't really that easy. For example, when I'm playing in Kanto, I consider Lt. Surge to be pretty easy, so I don't really bother going out of my way to get a specific counter for him. I know that my team as it is will be perfectly capable of handling him without much issues, even if I don't have any Ground moves (Though you do get Dig before that, but it doesn't feel like a "necessity" to have to beat Lt. Surge without struggling). You could also get the specific counter the game offers you near the gym, a Diglett from Diglett's Cave, but it's still a pretty easy fight even without the counter. But then later on when the fight against Sabrina is up ahead, I feel compelled to specifically prepare for her fight in advance. On a regular playthrough, this means catching a Snorlax to serve as my counter. With its great bulk and physical attack, it's one of the best counters for Sabrina. While it is possible to beat Sabrina without a specific counter like Snorlax, it's definitely much harder to do so. While you could argue that I'd probably pick up a Snorlax anyway since it's such a good Pokémon, the point I'm trying to get at is that when you feel like you need to seek out a specific counter in order to make the fight easy, then the fight isn't easy. Is Sabrina easy if I can bring in a Snorlax and just body her physically frail Psychic types while tanking her attacks with Snorlax's great bulk? Sure, the fight was easy for me in that case because I prepared for it and had a specific Pokémon to mostly trivialize the fight, but that doesn't make it an easy fight in the general sense. It's still a challenging fight with most team compositions.

Aeroblast?Damn.Did you win though?

I had an Oddish go up against Clefairy once-it got Sacred Fire out of Metronome. 😐😐😐

@@ohhReinaoh my God that same thing happened to me lmaooo

I fought her Clefairy in HG once and it used a Metronome Psycho Boost on Muscle.

If you think whitney is easy, play the game Pokérogue, a web-based version of a pokemon RPG, it’s really fun, just google “Pokerogue” it appears instantly. She is horrible to fight. She has a clefable with a healing move and insane bulk, her miltank has extremely high stats. I paralysed her miltank and she just switched out and i died. I hate her and unless i have a fighting, rock or ghost type, i just accept that the run’s lost. And if you think i’m just bad at the game, play it yourself, any gym leader is quite difficult. Even easy gym leaders like larry are quite difficult, and hard gym leaders? Yikes.

Jasmine’s also a graceful ballerina.

Lmao

Agreed, three of the best.

I mean, I agree

If Marnie counts, Then...

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I can imagine their gym trainers, actually cheering up and celebrating with the player when they win because it's so difficult, and that's why Whitney and Clair throw fits.

Mickle*

@@fenixrises9854*John Michael wingull

It comes with the territory it seems 😂

Just feast on her tears!

That was literally the only way I was able to beat Whitney's Miltank! Cause Muscle the Machop, is way too slow!

EASIER, more life pathetic. Whitney was the easiest gym leader for me because I had a level 20 heracross that OHKOed both her pokemon

Heracross gang Heracross gang

@@anjugupta8367 I didn't even have a Heracross during my first few attempts against Whitney! Muscle the Machop was too slow, My Quilava got attracted and stomped into submission, it healed any status I inflicted with a Lum Berry, it used milk drink to restore any damage I inflicted, and even my level 20ish Magnemite couldn't survive long enough to KO it! Even with Sturdy! It wasn't until I caught a female Heracross, and taught it Brick Break at level 15, that I was finally able to KO Whitney's Miltank!

​@@anjugupta8367Congrats, you went out of your way to get a pokemon to specifically beat her, now try that fight without the Heracross.

Then you go to Sinnoh, and find the same racers being overtaken by a Purugly for some reasons.

​@@lln-pk2zsnot going to lie, the first time I saw that alpha in legends I ran. Stupid Mars and her stupid cat

Imagining that made me laugh. 😂

# 0001 I'd argue Jasmine to be on this list too. Yeah true enough she's not a sore loser like Whitney and Clair but the fact that you have to climb the lighthouse only to find out that she can't battle you because Ampharos needs medicine, then Surf across to Cianwood, get the medicine, Surf back (or Fly back via Chuck), climb the lighthouse AGAIN, and then finally give the medicine for Ampharos, to finally get the right to battle her! At least with Clair the Dragon's Den is just getting across some whirlpools and answering a few questions.

⁠@@bulbasaur15I mean with Jasmine what she has you do is out of actually caring for another living being with Clare it’s cause she’s upset she isn’t stopping trainers from getting to the Pokémon League

​@@bulbasaur15 Jasmine is only difficult if you don't have super effective damage, I swept her with a Quagsire

@@bibigamer502 Plus, Jasmine's a lovely ballerina.

Cyndaquil/Quilava, Pidgey, Spearow and or Geodude. You have options for Scyther, I hate being that person but yeah, Bugsy has never been a problem for me.

The rest of Bugsy's team is horrendously bad.

Give Bugsy a Kleavor

@@qwertyrhoads9295 Which is why U-Turn is ideal.

Same😅

Mmm, yes, because I also think Raihan is sexy.....hey, wait a minute, he IS hot-

That's easy. 10) Burgh, 9) Tulip, 8) Grant, 7) Milo, 6) Flannery, 5) Brock, 4) Winona, 3) Elesa, 2) Wallace, 1) Nessa

Dude it lead with candice are you alright

@@Sharde-xe1sn no, I'm dyslexic 👍

Will this age well?

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They always do 😂

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Funny enough, that is exactly how I beat Candace in my Hardcore Nuzlocke of Platinum. I was shocked on how easy this fight was when I swept her team with just Houndoom and Infernape.

Clemont's dang Heliolisk has Dry Skin so my water moves dont work on it, that is so not right.

I would also recommend Umbreon, it gets access to stab feint attack and its incredibly bulky.

​@@kipolem53 why would you use a Water type mon in an Electric gym?

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Yeah you can say that.

its fairly obvious when youre doing non-overleveled runs that Unova and Paldea have the hardest gym challenges. Which is impressive because Unova's challenge comes primarily from lack of variety in the opportunities you have to construct teams until gym 7/8, where as Paldea lets you catch ANYTHING you need. Even then if youre intentionally cheesing gymleaders Paldea will throw brick walls at you outside of Katy one of the weakest gym leaders to ever exist.

I missed 4 hurricanes in a row the other day, followed up by the opponent hitting 3 in hurricanes a row and getting 2 confusions. I cried

I’ll never forget Aaron Zheng’s Rotom missing 5 will-o-wisps in a row 😂

we love focus miss. and stone miss. and fire miss.

@@Jlaps941 will-o-miss :)

I would argue that since SV made all trainer battles optional and the fact that raids are optional as well that SV is pretty easy to not get over leveled in as long as you aren't dumping candies into your team cause that's honestly on you if you do it at that point.

This! They could make such a tough normal type E4 or Champ battle! I would love to see it.

Well Larry is a Normal type specialist... just not in the elite four battle

​@bigmemvb Shout out to his staraptor who has ONLY facade for some damn reason 😊

@@PJNytefacade is all you need

Imagine a Normal type E4 member who just aggressively spams STAB Boomburst.

Seems you beat me to it

YeS!

Because what is there to cover with the rest of the types? Fire going from maybe good if you can use Fire Spin trapping to valuable for resisting key types like Steel and Fairy.

Then vs. now is probably more of a wait and see series, since new games continue to throw in new factors and Pokemon that can change the situation for a type. A type that might not be worth covering now could benefit significantly, or take a massive hit in later generations, or both, back to back, which is just as worthwhile to cover.

Let's also just talk about water, cuz there's just not enough water type pokemon in the franchise!

Ice is the only type I can see where "Then vs Now" would work as they got buffed in SV

Say,w hat happens if you Soak a TErastalized Pokemon? Or is Soak no longer extant in Pokemon games like Pursuit?

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@@kipolem53 It fails.

@@VMajor411JOJOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Is that you, Kira?

Cool

We do but for both male and female gym leader

@@dannyhbthekiller4020 Arya bi?

Number one is definitely gonna be flannery

Yes

@@prosto-randomnah. Gonna be Karen 😂

What a wholesome story

I love using Chikorita, it's my favourite starter of all time, and it trivialises miltank, funnily enough. By the time you're fighting Whitney, it has Poisonpowder/Reflect/Synthesis, and miltank basically just gets boned. By the time rollout would be doing enough damage, it's dead. Stomp does nothing, even if you flinch 2-3 times under reflect you're still above half and doing fine, even if a bit annoyed haha. Feels good watching that sausage-nipple-swinging bugger just slowly melt. Gen 4, though, it has Lum Berry because game freak was feeling sadistic at the time lmao

I just get Rocky the Onix and I teach it Mud Slap. I will make that Miltank miss Rollout every time.

There's also Heracross, if you're patient enough to headbutt trees untill you get one.

Gastly using Mean Look is pointless if you're gonna switch it out to Scyther right away. Mean Look is only in effect if the Pokemon that uses it stays in battle.

"WHAT ABOUT MY TEARS WHITNEY, HUH!?!?!?" 😡

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This is why muddy water is the better surf

But Muddy Water is only 85% accurate, whereas Surf is 100% accurate.

@@zaeemnasarullah but it doesn't hurt your allies in double battles

@zaeemnasarullah gets it. Hitting both of your targets and your pokemon that could resist it is better than just your opponent and both pokemon having a 15% chance to miss.

​@Link_724 true but it's could be worse

man I hope they both patch up soon and come back as friends, really miss them and feel like a part of the charisma of the trio is gone

@Purplecliffe Please do a reaction vid on this!!!

Crustle is so much fun to use in the Unova games

No hating on Whitney she is beautiful! Plus with Pokemon going to the dark side with DEI, we must praise good looking female characters. If Roxanne is on any hate list, that would just be wrong.

@@kipolem53Yeesh incel ass comment right here

Weather moves were introduced in Gen 2 except for Hail (which is only available in Gens 3-8)

Dig work as well

Bro

Lucian is definitely the hardest of the Sinnoh Elite Four by a lot. I think in general a team that has coverage to deal with the weaknesses of their type is much harder. I agree with this vote. I would also like to suggest Marshal. His team are not only hard hitters but they all come equipped with coverage to hit their weaknesses for super effective damage. Your Psychic and Flying types won't be safe as they have to deal with the amount of Rock and Dark moves these Pokémon have. Also Sawk having Sturdy means you won't one-shot it even with a super-effective move, giving a perfect chance for it to retaliate. Out of the Unova Elite Four, he's the one that gave me the most trouble by far.

Miltank is only REALLY a problem for Cyndaquil, because of Rollout killing it 2 hits rather than 4. As a Chikroita purist, it's basically a meme fight for lil plant babby

@@frankcaggiano8282 Yeah, I was lucky enough that my Chikorita was female, so it was immune to Attract, and I'd spend a lot of time catching many Pokemon so my team was a bit over-leveled, so when I fought Whitney, I didn't struggle as much. Sure she still managed to knock out one or two of my Pokemon, but I beat her first try.

​​​@@frankcaggiano8282Honestly with Cyndaquil I just killed the Milktank before Rollout could do too much damage. Think I might've been overleveled and packing too many items though. Clefairy was never an issue for me.

@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 clefairy may as well not even be there yeah lol, 99% of the time it just dies after wasting a turn or two doing nothing

Yup. Exactly what I did in my heartgold playthrough. Whitney was easy. 😁 Probably difficult in GSC though because I don't think heracross got brickbreak

@@Svithi.N.98no it only gets counter and to make it worse it gets it at like level 50

​@@Svithi.N.98Brick Break didn't exist in GSC, so...

@@cesarflamenco9484 yeah i thought so... Thats why GSC would have been difficult as compared to HGSS.

He’s talked about Heracross in this regard before, its only really solid in HGSS thx to getting Brick Break around the same level you should probably be fighting Whitney (Level 19). In the originals tho, it’s not great because its only fighting type move it could use at the point of that battle is Rock Smash, which was even weaker than it still is nowadays.

I haven't been battling Whitney in my Pokemon HeartGold Playthrough yet. But once I get there, It will be a priority to have a Pokemon with Attack-Lowered and Defense-Lowered Priority moves like Charm, Growl or Screech with Super Effective moves such as Brick Break and Rock Smash.

Geodude is also really good into Miltank, especially a female one since it's immune to Attract. It tanks all of Whitney's moves pretty easily and it can even use Rock Smash to make the Miltank easier to kill. Hell, the Clefairy is very easy to set up on given you don't get metronome cheesed. So if you don't get Stomp flinched by Miltank, you could easily Defense Curl Rollout the cow for the win.

That was literally the only way I was able to beat Whitney! Cause Muscle the Machop is way too slow, compared to Miltank!

Same

Agreed

I think the main things that made that fight hard were 1. The omni boost on an already ripped legendary. 2. The fact that most people were not sure of its type when they first encountered it so they likely did not have the right pokemon for the job at the time.

Not a hard fight if you know what you are doing and even on my first nuzlocke on the game it didn't even wipe me and I had no zorua

@@Venemofthe888 yes because speed runners haven’t done it multiple times over with little effort which ruins any achievement for most other people, the comment was going to people playing a nuzlocke for the first few times and isn’t prepping for literally every fight and claiming it’s easy after being Batman with prep time, in fact with prep time you realise you can OHKO it with mirror coat sash or toxic stall it with forretress

@@Ghostmnm even if you don't prepare I still Don't think it's nearly as difficult as it seems. My first playthrough I literally had no idea what was to come up against ultra necrozma but i still did the battle in one try with 2 pokemon left alive. I did get swept by totem ribombee right afterwards but you know even with no preparations it's still a fight that is winnable

@@Venemofthe888 someone said a point 3 weeks ago saying what makes it hard, the fight is a sucker punch and it gets an omni boost, nowadays even without prep time you still know it’s type in advance and may unintentionally prepare Also you got swept by the RIBOMBEE and not the left field kaiju with a nuke?

I always do the same on any HGSS run. Made Heracross my favorite fighting type.

Same here. I caught a female Heracross, taught it Brick Break, and just barely won against her Miltank!

I also used a heracross though I had always planned to use it throughout the playthrough because it's amazing and easily my favourite bug type

@@anjugupta8367 Same here. Heracross is one of my favorite Bug types along with Scizor. But the fact Female Heracross was the only way for me to win against Whitney's Miltank, just makes me despise both Whitney and her Miltank even more!

Female Geodude is a very good counter too and is actually quite good for johto in general lol

You can use lucario with foresight and aura sphere for candice and it's easily available too

Bugsy's scyther from hgss is up there for me, if you let that thing get off one focus energy you're very likely to get swept by technician boosted quick attacks

Flannery in Emerald derailed my first attempt at an Emerald Nuzlocke. I though Marshtomp would tank the hits and sweep, I learned very quickly that sun boosted Stab Overheat doesn't care about resistances.

Winona can easily end your Nuzloke, if her Atlaira, her ace pokemon, gets up too many Dragon Dances, Good Luck.

@@Maddiez484 Thanks man! I've already finished with zero deaths about a year ago. Hardcore nuzlocke to. Ice beam Marshtomp, Gyarados, and Magneton cleaned up Winona. The main thing with Flannery is having mutliple tanky resists (Marshtomp, Gyarados, Thick Fat Hariyama, Tentacruel). Nuzlockes get a lot easier when you realize you can swap your team around depending on the boss.

@@jacobkohr7243 Fair.

I remember I had to fight Fantina for my little sister's Diamond playthrough because she was so frustrated with her.

​​​@@kittylover62I've never actually fought her outside of Platinum, but I do have to fight her in Shining Pearl eventually. Either way, I get BAD MEMORIES whenever I fight her on repeat playthroughs.

months? y'all play the main story of pokemon game for months?

@@theamazingspooderman2697Not every kid has all the time in the world to play video games, y’know? Some just prefer other activities and video games are of lower priority. If that’s not the case, then it could be parents granting limited screen time, and that extends to ALL electronics. It makes sense that some kids would need a month or more to make real progress in a game.

​@@CTSaelYup. It was basically a combination of repeated losses and juggling school. It was SUCH a satisfying feeling when I finally beat her, though. Definitely respect her as a worthy opponent, though, especially being a black woman myself.

I brought a Lucario and it was able to demolished Duraladon with him so all I needed to handle was his Sandiconda. Sword and Shield was hella easy

All new games are easy tho because xp share, you are always over leveled unless you go out of your way to be weaker, in a normal game play of new games it’s hard to lose, I honestly don’t remember rihan being hard at all even going in blind didn’t even lose a pokemon. Even the battle tower was a cake walk in swsh beat it in an hour with a rental team. Most recent hard fight was in legends. Then before that was bdsp Cynthia fight, and that was only hard because the game up to that point was beyond easy then Cynthia comes in with a legit comp team lol

I brought a Pangoro (Iron Fist ability) with Drain Punch TR. its enough to decimate his Duraladon

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