@@MagillanicaLouM Actually no, Charles Martinet had never even heard of Mario or Nintendo when he auditioned for the part. I guess it's just a weird coincidence
Oh my gosh THANK YOU SO MUCH for mentioning the Toad Brick thing. It's probably one of the most believed Mario myths on the internet. When if they would just read the manual themselves, they'd know the truth! And the fact they were also turned into stones and _plants,_ which already existed, means that Bowser transformed them into stuff that was part of the natural scenery. Someone had most likely already placed all of those blocks beforehand. It's just that the brick blocks with power-ups weren't and are instead transformed Toads! And furthermore, the whole plot of the game is that Peach is the only one that can break Bowser's curse... When you rescue her at the end of the game, wouldn't she have gone and broken it? All the Toads that were transformed are no longer transformed! I feel like that should be common sense! Yet a handful of people think every brick block in future games are the same Toads that were transformed in the original game.
A misconception that I’ve definitely seen is that the thing at the top of a Toad’s head is a hat. People believe that because it was shown to be a hat in The Super Mario Bros. Super Show, but that’s a non-canon cartoon and, if I’m not mistaken, the only time that it’s shown to be a hat. A loading screen in Super Mario Bros. Wonder even directly states that it’s not a hat, but instead part of their head. That might seem weird at first until you remember that Toads are literally mushroom people.
In recent Mario games I feel like they’re visually implying that a Toad’s cap is their hair, as you see they put hats on top of their caps and Toadette’s braids are part of her cap too. I wouldn’t blame people for being confused though, as both Mario RPG and the early Paper Mario games had toads with hair sticking out underneath or out of their caps; either the character designers of those games weren’t aware of what the caps were either, or the decision to have the caps be an extension of the body/hair-like was a more recent choice.
I always wondered why Ala-Gold's called that. Perhaps it's a play on "a la mode"? I mean there is an ice power up in the nsmb games. A toad's vest and round pants combo kinda resembles what disney's Aladdin wears. So maybe it's a portmanteau of Aladdin and the word gold?
Mario misconceptions, Rosalina entire character. Istg 90% of the fandom think she is the god of the mario univers and she actually reset the univers in mario galaxy. When Lumas did it and she was never represent as a god in any games.
thank you, she lit didnt do anything in smg, let alone smg2, and she didn’t create the cosmos or anything for that matter. did everyone just skip her storybook? she’s just… a (fallen?) princess who stays there. a bit like rauru from tloz, he was also supposed to be the omnipotent king but was a lazy ass most of the time, he and rosalina are so hilarious
This was a great video! I appreciated the fact that you cited such high-quality sources. One fake fact i've heard a lot is that the Koopalings are "based on" the design team who made SMB3. This doesn't really make much intuitive sense, since the Koopa kids are these wild punk rock characters and one is a girl, and they bear no resemblance to humans at all, let along video game programmers. The origin of this comes from the Nintendo Power "Mario Mania" guide, in which Miyamoto makes a comment that seems to me to be obviously clumsily translated. My read is that he seems to be saying the SMB3 design team each designed their own koopa kid, which would explain why they don't really "match."
Those Misconceptions are interesting, the latest one really fooled anyone, and the movie didn't come out yet until the premiere date. The few misconceptions you've mentioned, that I already know were The use of the name, Jumpman, Peter Cullen was Mario's First Voice Actor, and Luigi First Appeared in Mario Bros. (Arcade). Great video, by the way!
From a book about Mario's history i recall that the Popeye's company wasn't so convinced for a game so they didnt give an ok for it. They were ok for cards and Game & Watch, but werent sure for an arcade game. After Doneky Kong they were convinced for that other arcade game
@@KingLaneCreations it's in Italian, dunno if you have a counterpart. It covers Mario's history from the origins to the live action movie, along side some sketches of it that aren't even on the movie archives: "La storia di Mario - 1981 - 1991: la nascita di un'icona, tra mito e realtà" by William Audureau
These misconceptions constantly appearing in so many videos including big channels is why I try to dig deep when I make my own videos. I mentioned that Popeye thing in my Donkey Kong video and that Toad Bricks thing from the DYKG video annoyed me so much I had to mention it in my Super Mario Bros. 1 video
About number 10, in Brazil, when they dubbed the Super Mario Bros Super Bowl commercial, they called the Princess Toadstool's original Brazilian VA for the "Mystery Lady". But when the movie comes out, wasn't the same VA.
I really wish that Jeannie Elias had done the voice for the woman in the plumbing commercial. Everything from her voice to the red hair reminds me of Peach from the Super Show, and it would've been a fitting tribute.
Hopefully the sequel can work some of that in. While many of the voice actors are no longer around, it would be cool if they could work in folks from the cartoons like Tara Strong (Hip (Lemmy)/Hop (Iggy)), or even John Leguizamo.
The Miyamoto quote about DKC always seemed suspect to me. Miyamoto seems very professional, and doesn't come off as the type of guy to slam someone else's work, especially when that work released on a Nintendo console.
WOAH, that "Here We Go" is so weird knowing that he was the first lol. And the fact that Charles never heard of Mario before landing the role and it becoming one of Mario's most iconic catchphrases is actually insane
Thank you for bringing up the Blue and Yellow Toad thing. It gets on my nerves so much how people just blindly assume those are their names because they'll believe any obvious lie they read on the internet.
I always thought that Donkey Kong Jr was Luigi's first appearance, because in the intro of the arcade version, there is another person who looks identical to Mario. On further research, Donkey Kong Jr does seem to be the first time Mario was shown to have some kind of sidekick with a similar appearance as him, though it was never confirmed that the man in Donkey Kong Jr was Luigi himself.
I really appreciated this video! There are so many misconceptions with the Mario series, so it's a relief when someone finally debunks the most popular ones.
The name Jump man is said by a few NPCs during Chapter 3 in Paper Mario The Thousand year door, never made sense as the fans called him Great Gonzales, no clue how that name was made up either?
One thing I've heard around is that Yoshi isn't a dinosaur, but instead more related to koopas, because the "saddle" they have is actually a small shell. I'm not going to worry about how "official" that is, though.
Common Misconception: Many think Luigi is faster, but Mario is faster in ALL Smash Bros games, all M&L games, Mario 2, + more! Luigi of course, jumps higher.
The breakable bricks thing is something I never understood. The brick blocks are just bunches of bricks plastered together. Shattering the blocks would be more like separating them from each other, which would mean you're not destroying the toads, you're just separating them from others.
I hadn't even heard of a few of these myths, so this was a worthwhile watch. Also, thank you for not including the scandalous conspiracy of SMB2 and how "it's not a Mario game 'cause it's Dooky Dooky Panic." I am sick of that story.
Thank you for that Toad one, that’s one that I’ve known for years and it’s always bugged me. Also, I’ve actually only ever heard the correct story for Larry’s name.
The Miyamoto hated Donkey Kong Country misconception comes from a review written in Japanese being mistranslated. I dont remember the source of that interview sadly, but iirc he just mentioned his skepticism of using pre rendered graphics during the development progress.
6:15 To be fair, the dude at the panel is not exactly lying. Peter Cullen's still the first OFFICIAL actor for Mario. The previous two guys were restricted to just commercials. Not to mention Harris was an actor; not a voice actor.
In my opinion, just because Larry was restricted to just commercials, doesn't make his impact on Mario's voice evolution less important. And while yes, Harris wasn't a voice actor, it's still worth mentioning that he was one of the earliest actors to play Mario in live-action, albeit a very weird Mario. There's also one more voice actor who probably predated Peter Cullen that I forgot to mention. There was a Donkey Kong vinyl album from Kid Stuff in 1983, called Donkey Kong Goes Home. In which featured Pat McBride (who co-written and co-produced the album) as the voice of Mario.
So that Jumpman name thing is false? That actually explains why Epyx was able to make a game called Jumpman; Nintendo never planned on that name & thus didn't trademark that name!
MatPat are theories. That’s what they are SUPPOSED to be. People always take them as fact. The Mario is Mental Game Theory was nothing more than a persuasive video essay, a good one, that purposely omitted known details to make a funny point. But people took it as official canon. They did the same thing with the Link is Dead theory, and Nintendo had to give an official statement that Link continued to search for NAVI after Majora’s Mask 😂
@@purplemist7 Those theories were not persuasive in your opinion, and that's fine, but a lot of people started to take them as facts. And the word would be "iterated" not "reiterated." But that's just being pedantic 😊. And since I iterated what was so clear to you... ...why comment? Isn't that adding to the redundancy? 🤔
With the Mario movie sequel coming out, I hope Jeannie Elias and John Leguizamo (I heard he expressed some kind of disappointment for not getting to voice a character in the first Illumination film) have small voice roles alongside Charles and Kevin.
Leguizamo specifically complained about Mario and Luigi not being voiced by Latino actors in the movie. For some reason he's stuck on the idea that the ITALIAN American brothers should be voiced by Latinos. He even went as far as to say there were NO Latino actors in the movie, which isn't true - Will Barnett has Venezuelan heritage and voiced Cranky Kong. Carlos Alazraqui also had a role, and has Argentinian heritage.
To be fair concerning Bucken Berry and Ala Gold: ALL Names are completely made up. And I will continue to use them not despite but _because_ they are terrible. And another widespread Koopaling Name misconception to add: Ludwig von Koopa is (certainly due to the unique hairstyle) named after Ludwig von Beethoven. Problem: The famous composer with the unmistakable hairstyle was named Ludwig _van_ Beethoven. Ludwig von Beethoven also existed and was also important in music yes, but he was a Kapellmeister (Conducter, Head of the Ensemble and Administrator of their Orchestral Building in one person) in Vienna. He wasn't writing music (at least not as his main profession) and most certainly didn't do so in Hamburg. That was Ludwig van Beethoven's thing. And yes, they were related van Beethoven was von Beethoven's Grandson. He legally changed his name to be not confused with his Grandpa anymore. Didn't quite work out, did it?
6:40 it's kind of fascinating how mario's original voice was actually pretty similar to his modern one in a few respects! that "here we go" sounds straight out of new super mario bros. i wonder if charles martinet's mario voice might have been influenced by this commercial on some level?
It was almost definitely just a coincidence, as Charles Martinet has stated in interviews that he had no idea who Mario was when he auditioned for the role
I remember the Donkey Kong Country, rumour, I remember it expanded in to Yoshi's Island the reason it went with a hand draw art style, was to rebel against Donkey Kong Country, was what I remember reading, I think it was written in a official Nintendo Magazine, or a different gaming magazine.
Miyamoto did say that Yoshi's Island was changed from prerendered 3D sprites to hand drawn to contrast it with DKC, but not because he didn't like it. Just because he didn't want them to come across as too similar. That's part of the reason the cutscenes are still prerendered - they were made before the switch to the new art style.
something that really pisses me of here on México is that apparently people think "Bros." is the Mario brothers last name, I hear it all the time it's so annoying they go like "es Mario bros" lol
A very common misconception in America is that the 1993 movie invented the last name "Mario." Shigeru Miyamoto has even repeated this "fact," but Mario Mario and Luigi Mario are quite audibly said in a few random episodes of the Super Mario Brothers Super Show, four years earlier.
First mention that Nintendo couldn't get Popeye's license was in David Sheff's book Game Over from 1991. It did note Nintendo subsequently obtained the Popeye license. as you noted it was in 1982, this is after Donkey Kong's 1981 release which became a huge hit. The book iirc explained it as a no brainer at the time to grant the license. I don't think #1 was adequately debunked as the Popeye cabinet used the same chipset as the DK cabinet and both were ported as early NES releases.
We need this video to get more views as many of these misconceptions are so widespread especially the Donkey Kong Popeye one which I saw video with 2 million views explaining this misconception and it made me so angry!
Most people think of Yoshi as a dinosaur, but I believe he's a dragon. In the Japanese version of Super Mario World, he signs a message as "Super Dragon Yoshi" and he uses that signature in both the Japanese and English versions of Super Mario Advance 2.
#1 Fell for. #2 Same as #1. #3 Forgot about, but probably fell for. #4 Used to have fallen for a long time ago, but found out the truth at a later date. #5 Same as #4. #6 Never thought about and never heard of. #7 Same as #6. #8 Never ever would have considered and also never heard of. #9 Fell for, but found out the truth almost immediately afterwards. #10 Didn't fall for (was doubtful) and found out the truth immediately afterwards, before even having the time to potentially fall for.
Wow!! Actual deep cuts! I was thinking these would end up being really redundant facts I know but I was pleasantly surprised! I was aware of the G&W Mario Bros. thing, the Jeannie VA, the early Mario naming, but the rest was new info! I was hesitant on if Toads were in fact turned to objects in the first SMB game, if the Saturday Supercade or cereal commercials came first, I thought Miyamoto hating DKC was true lol, I knew the names Bucken-Berry and Ala-Gold but didn't know their validity, the musicians Koopalings were named after I thought was for all of them, I always thought Popeye characters were unable to be used due to rights 👀
Let's say in the alternate universe where the movie rumor was true, our dreams erupted prior, and here's the cast we got in the best universe: Charles Martinet as the following: Mario, a struggling Italian-American plumber from Brooklyn, New York, who is accidentally transported to the world of the Mushroom Kingdom. Luigi, Mario's timid younger brother and fellow plumber, who is captured by Bowser and his army The brothers' father Giuseppe King Toadstool, the king of the Mushroom Kingdom. Samantha Kelly as Queen Blossom, the queen of the Mushroom Kingdom. Sarah Heinke as Princess Peach, the princess of the Mushroom Kingdom and Mario's love interest. Tom Kenny as Toad, a Mushroom Kingdom resident whose species is also named Toad, who aspires to go on his first real adventure. Scott Burns as Bowser, the King of the Koopas, who rules the Dark Lands, steals a powerful Super Star, and plots to conquer the Mushroom Kingdom by marrying Peach. Kenny James provides his roars. John Cena as Donkey Kong, an anthropomorphic gorilla and heir to the throne of the Jungle Kingdom. Fred Armisen as Cranky Kong, the ruler of the Jungle Kingdom, and Donkey Kong's father. Sebastian Maniscalco as Spike, Mario and Luigi's antagonistic former boss from a company called Wrecking Crew. Kevin Michael Richardson as Kamek, a Koopa sorcerer and Bowser's advisor and informant. Clancy Brown as Toadsworth, an elderly Toad and Peach's steward. Jack McBrayer as Nabbit, a rabbit-like creature who used to steal items from Toad until Mario convinces him to turn a new leaf and help take down Bowser. McBrayer voices the character with a southern accent. Cameron Richardson as the green Yoshi, who is capable of human speech.
From what I’ve read, while Jeannie Elias didn’t voice the plumbing commercial lady, and Jessica DiCicco confirmed that she did it, the source of the rumor actually came from something legitimate. In the Brazilian dub of The Super Mario Bros. Movie, the plumbing commercial lady was voiced by the voice actress for Princess Peach in the Brazilian dub of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show.
Not a fan of Ala-Gold, but Buckenberry isn't a bad name imo, even if it isn't official. The only problem with it is that it's not a Toad-themed pun. For Blue Toad, I'd pick Toaddew (like dew, or two) or Berry T. (Ala Zess T., etc) For Yellow Toad, Maybe Toadigold (marigold), Toadellow or Lemon T.
So, you're going to mention the "misconception" about Miyamotto hating story in games, or at least Mario games, but then not elaborate further and debunk it? Why? If that is an incorrect assumption that is something important to debunk hard and fast considering the amount of times it is echoed and has arguments and stories to back it up. I would love to see someone debunk that.
The reason I didn't elaborate it in this particular video was because it wasn't completely a Mario-specific topic, since I consider it to be an in-general Nintendo topic. Though if there's enough demand, I'd totally be down to making a video about whether or not Miyamoto dislikes story.
I can't tell you how much I appreciate videos like these... especially that someone else has picked on the misconception about the license for the Popeye game. Yes I too fell for that, because they made it sound so convincing. No wonder why others continue not to fact check this when we now know that documents say otherwise. That goes double for the "Toads turned into bricks and killed by Mario" dispute. This is great coverage from Mar10 day. Keep up the good work, sir! 😂 P.s. On Larry Koopa, how ironic is it that he also has the same first name as Larry Fine from the Three Stooges? He too was a musician...a violinist even. Of course he's not the source the inspiration, but I just thought it be funny regardless... 🤣🤣🤣
There was a Popeye video game Parker Brothers released for Atari 2600, ColecoVision, and Intellivision around the same time. Wonder if it had something to do with Nintendo’s Popeye issue. What do you think Lane?
I'm glad you brought that up. So here's what happened, after Nintendo released their Popeye arcade game in 1982, they gave Parker Brothers the license to port the game to the consoles you mentioned. Parker Brothers also ported another Nintendo arcade game to the Atari 2600 as well, which was Sky Skipper. Here's a link to Gaming Historian's video on the subject, were he talks about the Atari 2600 ports of Nintendo's arcade games. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BjRuV52Jk78.html
@@KingLaneCreations I heard the other reason Nintendo didn’t have the rights to a Popeye Arcade game before changing to Donkey Kong was because most companies prior to Donkey Kong’s release thought video games are a dying fad, even before the video game crash of 1983. It’s possible that both development issues and licensing neglect by superstition are the reasons why Donkey Kong became what it is today, especially when you take into consideration that Nintendo was about to go bankrupt over Radar-Scope’s marketing failure in America. If you want a misconception that’s hard to believe, try looking up stuff about Cranky Kong, Donkey Kong and how Rareware couldn’t make up their minds on who they are in the family tree, or whether or not Modern DK is DK Jr; which I don’t believe, because Cranky’s own bias towards modern game development (especially when breaking the 4th wall within DKC) would imply he’s not the same DK featured in the 1994 Game Boy game released a few months prior to DKC, but the Modern DK we know today is likely the same DK featured in Donkey Kong ‘94 (especially since DK Jr appeared alongside Modern DK in Mario Tennis N64), and that the GBA instruction manual to Mario vs. Donkey Kong said “Looks like Donkey Kong is up to his old tricks again!”, implying that this DK is the same DK from it’s spiritual prequel, which makes sense when you realize Miyamoto was the guy suggesting to give DK a necktie (which Cranky Kong never wore), and that DK’94 was the first game to feature the necktie-wearing DK (albeit in Miyamoto’s initial design rather than Rareware’s finalized look).
I already have one for you the rabbit design for Sonic was though to be call Feel until someone messaged Naoto Ohsima the creator of the design and revealed their name is actually Maxs
All the way back in 2013, there was a Spanish website that claimed, in the words of Miyamoto, that Mario and Luigi weren't brothers but instead lovers. The article even included supposed quotes of Miyamoto explaining this, saying that the original Super Mario Bros. on the NES was an allegory for overcoming a homophobic patriarchy; the whole thing seemed so convincing that it became the talk of the town in Latin America. It turns out that the website was satirical, but even my brother ended up believing the rumor. There was a video in DYKG's channel that debunked it. Those were scary times
It would've been neat if they had found a way to get Jeannie Elias a cameo in the movie. Kinda impressive that Jessica DiCicco sounds similar enough for that one character. Sure; Jeannie Elias is not Leslie Swan, Jen Taylor, or Samantha Kelly. Still, she did well for being the first official English actress of Princess Peach.
you forget some that are the biggest misconceptions like the big one that is mario and Luigi in the games are Italian's to which they are not like............. at all because it's super pretty clear that Mario's world in the games is very different from ours but are inspired by real life countries there are past games like the educational ones that had it but it's pretty clear they are not canon by all means
The original booklet for Mario Bros. On the NES (not Super Mario Bros, the arcade game) stated that it took place in the sewers of New York. It didn't specifically say beyond that. The reason Mario was assumed to be Italian, or more accurately Italian American, is because New York has a large number of people of Italian heritage. Most people working on the tie in media interpreted that as a gruff Brooklyn type thing (even though what borough is never specified), while some went with a more cartoony accent.
I think they can be considered "Italian" in a sort of meta sense, kind of like how the character Garnet from Steven Universe is "black" despite being from another planet. Though you are correct that they aren't literally Italian since they were born in the Mushroom Kingdom, as seen in Yoshi's Island. I do think it's possible that they have heritage from an Italy-esque place in the Mario world though, such as Isle Delfino or the Luncheon Kingdom.
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From what I’ve heard over the years the license rumor stems from the creator of Popeye stating that video games were a fad and thus he wouldn’t license popeye to Nintendo for the game. After he saw the success of donkey Kong he changed his mind. This is what I heard long before the internet and I’ve seen several videos on RU-vid that also claim that. I’m not saying you’re wrong but I’m not saying you’re right either because I just want more definitive proof and not opinion before I change my belief I’ve had since the early 90’s.
I thought the information on Gunpei Yokoi's deposition was enough definitive proof? Also E. C. Segar, Popeye's creator, had passed away decades before Donkey Kong was in development.
Wrong! Marios first voice was from the vinyl! This video is a really goos one going over it ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jeifZYY7bsY.htmlsi=ieVppwI8nOVJ5Qot
I'm pretty sure I'm not wrong. The Donkey Kong cereal came out in late 1982, which was probably around the same time the commercials were airing. Meanwhile, the Donkey Kong Goes Home album was released in 1983.
#8 Ooooooooh, you missed it by this much. While you are correct about the DKC thing, he does actively hate story. He may _claim_ he doesn't hate it, but just about every action proves otherwise. Even if you believe that he did like story, actually, and everyone was exaggerating; it wouldn't be "pure fabrication." The many reasons someone would think that are some of the best documented things in gaming history. If you truly thought this was wrong, you'd do a point-by-point debunking video of Arlo's video about it.
The reason I haven't made a point-by-point debunking video yet is because someone already did. SuperMarioT made two excellent videos about why he thinks Miyamoto doesn't dislike story, and I feel like the evidence he shows makes much more sense. Here's a link to watch both videos. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hFqizj8WNJc.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gcjDBEJDSPA.html
@@KingLaneCreations Oh... one of _those,_ I see. That is not a "point-by-point debunking video" firstly, because it came out _before_ Arlo's video (by over an entire month). And secondly, because Arlo's video literally addresses _every. single. point. made. in. that. video._ It is actually a video made in response to how bad and misleading of a video that was. You literally have none no research on this topic. Say something, _anything_ that gives the impression that you've watched Arlo's video, before trying to continue this discussion.
