I don’t get the pivot a large vehicle on a round base being a shorter charge thing.., I know rules written appears to give it a shorter distance even though it is outside nine due to pivoting shenanigans but is an easy fix… if you have a circular base like infantry you measure from the base! Then you don’t get any free extra inches? It’s not that hard and I’m sure that’s how it’s intended? 😎
From the perspective of the game, I get the further nerf to Indirect, but from a general wargaming perspective, I'm not a fan since artillery is definitely a tactic employed in war. What it tells me is that GW should just bump Indirect models to Legends or do away with them entirely since they're clearly promoting a specific style of gameplay it doesn't really want to interact with. Being forced to hit on 4+ could warrant points cuts but we all know GW won't let these units be decent.
@@peterbaines1763 Yeah, though even then they've been steering things away from Indirect units for the Guard rules-wise. Too many roadblocks for a 50% chance to hit bogged down by wound rolls and saves all boosted by the rest of the Indirect fire penalties. They don't even feel good in casual games. Sucks less for marines or death guard in that they just need to leave it alone and not bother with buffing the hit roll, but for Guard it's telling them not to invest in this using the resources they wrote into the faction for it lol
@@marauder340 I understand fully tbh its too difficult a game mechanic to balance fairly around. I dont play other wargames so not sure how they get around the issue
@@peterbaines1763 It's rough without bringing back some rules from older editions like templates or a scatter mechanic to add randomness to indirect fire as a way to curb its oppressiveness. That's the way I can see it being okay, but would add to further rules bloat which GW ostensibly tries to control now.
I really like the idea of the DA's Hunter detachment in this edition, as it makes the outriders Battle line, and then adding ATV's to them. Seems pretty good to me.
