They've survived and adapted for decades with major heat on them. With the city destroying their neighborhoods just to get rid of them. It doesn't work.
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In Frog town when a big storm would come through all the frogs from the river would head for high ground (Dodger stadium). The streets would be covered with tens of thousands of little frogs. When we were kids we would fill play buckets full of them. Good times
True story it was nasty driving over them it left a layer of frogs on the streets.bit did this guy talk about the frogs NO he passed through the are so fast hardly any info.
my mother grew up in Lincoln heights and so did her mother and grandparents so Lincoln heights has been a part of a family since the 1920s,my mom told me long ago she was going to join clover gang but didn't thank god this was in the early 80s , Lincoln heights will always have a piece of my ❤️.
@ Michelle Olguin:Haha...you loyal to your shit! I can tell. Luv the way you thanked God that moms didn't join Clover. You make it sound like a crime or something hella bad to do. You're also hella pretty. You seem cool... that's all. Wit' my late ass reply. Be safe, gorgeous.
Same,moms grew up over in Lincoln heighs in the 80’s and 90’s and knew a lot of kids from all over the place,18th street,clover,east lake,Lincoln heights,was crazy but I’m glad she didn’t get jumped in and is still alive today
that's cool that the hispanic g's from clover still give a nod to it's founding irish members, and the fact that some of the oldest gang turf (dogtown) in L.A. contributed to skateboarding culture as i know it today is pretty dope, too. respect
@@creepnasty5370 who gives a sh*t. and if DogTown from L.A has a problem with DogTown from Venice for stealing there logo, well then that's between the DogTowns.
Great video but correction on the Dog Town Gang info, my family lived in dog town in the 1890s. It was almost exclusively a Sicilian colony inside of the Los Angeles Italian enclave ! The dog town gang had to pay taxes to the College Park Gang (Matranga family) in the early 1900s until they formed an alignment with the North End Gang run by the first mafia boss of Los Angeles named Joe Ardizzone. After the North End Gang won the war of 1906 in the 1910s dog town was still a predominantly Sicilian gang. The Italian enclave lasted until the 1930s when it was cleared out for the building of the Los Angeles jail and by that time the neighborhood was predominantly Mexican just as Clover St had Irish and Jews originally.
Joseph "Joe Iron Man" Ardizzone was an Italian-born early Los Angeles mobster, who became the first Boss of the Los Angeles crime family. He was involved in a long-standing feud with the Matranga family. He once claimed to have killed 30 men.
Great input. Now, this makes sense to me. Everyone wants to claim to be the oldest but there’s a difference between a neighborhood being around since the 1890s and a gang and social group being established at the same time. DogTown may have been a gang that dates back to this era but the question is if Mexican youth were members of these gangs. This includes other areas such as Primera Flats and other areas with European roots.
***** Good videos Alex. Just wondering what is your nationality? Black and Mexican Mix? Just curious. Also what is your take on the History Channel's Gang Land?
Great video. My partner wrote a scipt for a movie based on the north end gang vs the college park gang which predates all of these gangs when dogtown, lincoln heights, and clover street were all a part of the Italian enclave. It was all about the Matranga family (college park gang) against the Ardizzone family (north end gang) in those days of los angeles. They were the first black hand borgata back when olvera street was still called Wine street. The Italian vinters sold their wine in what we call Olvera street before these gangs existed... and btw the screenplay on this is called 'Alameda.'
Lincoln heights view was the best I imagine spending the afternoon and evening drinking and watching the downtown buildings watching the sun comes down. I'm not into gangs nor barrios but that view was cool.
@@FelipeAPina come on amigo We all know that the mexicas were only the Aztecs, the rest of the Mexican population was not Mexicas, neither those of the north nor those of the south who descended from the Maya if anything. South from Yucatan, Chiapas hasta El Salvador was mayan territory.
@@senorlopez2564 they was probably mix ain't no way we now how far the territories wear for the both and Mexicans can also be mix with the native Americans so we are all mix but Mexico as a country they are so they are Mexican
+streetgangs How do you know so much about al these Gangs?? Its good to know though,,Ive heard of these gangs, but never knew there History... You should Do OC and IE.....
ayy my Boy u shud do a hood Video over here in WATTS CALIFORNIA OLDEST AND STILL ACTIVE VARRIO SOUTHSIDE VILLAGE BOYS WATTS X3 GANG 107ST AND COMPTON AVE THEY KALL ME TRUSTY
I grew up in Dogtown, from 79 to 95. I'm not so sure the gang itself originates in the 1800s. There were definitely neighborhoods in LA in the late 1800s with that name. But as a Chicano gang, I would say that it originated in the 1940s during the time of WWII. While all the adult men were at war, a lot of young men back home got together and formed gangs. This happened throughout LA. If someone wanted to really dig into the history of LA gangs, just go to the downtown LA Central library and look for primary documents mentioning Dogtown or Clover, Hazard or Frogtown.
Alex Alonso, you should do a video of the 10 largest neighborhoods/gangs in Los Angeles. Hispanic, Black,Asian. Neighborhoods with the most members/Clicks/Subsets.
Frogtown housing will all be gentrified in next 5 - 8 years...way to close to Silver Lake not to. PS love when you investigate the old gang graf in the sidewalk concrete. That stuff is like studying anthropology
When i was young living im L.A. i meet and hung out with alot of older, OG's or Veteranios whatever you wanna call them, and unlike the rest of the youths of my age, you could usually find me sipping cups of beer cause i was to young still to hold a can or bottle infront of cops, id be playing dominos, dice or cards, working on rides but the whole time i was listening and learning how to install hydros, stereos & interior and auto body. Also how to cook great bbq, do old english writing and old school gang writing. The most interesting to me was learning the gang history, the known gamgs, the known areas, the reason this set has beef with that set, were they started, why they started , sometimes who started them and even got to meet Toki. He even gave me a few $ on a hot day to grab a few ice creams for everybody including myself, also met several hispanic vets and a few of them were in the Zoot Suit Riots. I loved the history, but find it ridiculously funny how many hoods arent where they started, and some aint even anywhere close to where they started. Like Rockwood, first of the area there from over between Fremont & Belmont High Schools, in the little dip between them where the empty lot "Belmont Tunnels" was, just up on the hill closer to Belmont was not just Rockwood but ive stood on the corner or Rockwood Ave. & Piru St. Yes that Piru St. and neither gang exists there today. You cant find 1 Rockwood or Piru member anywhere close to there, when i was there last it was mostly Asian and in particular Philppino gangs there, i got several homies that are from RBS=Rebel Boys and they lived around there and on the Hollywood W.Hollywood boundries, go figure. Ive seen and meet guys from Duce 5 Menlo, and they told me they were a set from the Menlo Park area of Oakland, CA. Ive known guys from C14st, young and old but the ones i meet all lived in different parts of N.Hollywood and thats not even their hood, in fact a couple of the og zoot suiters i knew where from there. 3 brothers in fact, the oldest taught me upholstery. But they all lived in N.Hollywood, 2 families lived in my apts. Before i lived there i lived on the other side of NH and had meet 5 brothers all from NHLs, and they were all old og's too and even funnier was the familys knew each other. There sets didnt get along but they had known each other all their lives. Then after moving to the other side of NH and meeting the C14ers i meet what is now my bf since 6th grade and im 41 so a long time.He and his family know those other familys and he is a 3rd or 4th generation NHLs, his whole family are. So even in this big a** city of L.A. it ended up feeling like small town cause everyone knew everyone in NH for some reason, probably the fact they had 2 high schools that went toe to toe and that was it. So in the Late 60's through early 80's in NH you either went to NoHo High or Grant High, only 2 Jr Highs too i believe. If i remember it right they were Madison on Ethel way between Van Owen & Sherman Way and Walter Reed which was hidden on Irvine St. But its back gate was on Colfax Ave.(so is NHHighs front doors), and it was supposed to be a minimum city/county jail, but became a school, in fact several schools in L.A. county got the same fate. You can tell which ones if you get a good look, i think Bancroft Jr High in Hollywood is another. Id love to see you do a series of videos on the San Fernando & San Gabriel valley Gangs. There are some pretty old ones too. I find funny how middle and upper middle class neighborhoods in the West San Fernando Valley have gangs, when i was living there in the early 80's-90's i would have laughed in a dudes face if he hit me up, then claimed some sh*t like Canoga Park 13, or Reseda Boyz. Im from east side SF, N.Hollywood before the NoHo art crap, my BF is from Denny St. and i dont recall ever bumping into someone from either of those, and i never stayed trapped. Id take buses all through LA. I hung out in every mall in the SFV and being a tagger i meet alot of taggers, Tagbangers, gangbangers etc. And i remember when there were 2 WAG's, a Crip set S.Whittset Ave and Bloods N.Whittset Ave. Or maybe its the other way, heck it was like 1991 when i meet 3 dudes from it in continuation school and were from one and in some pimp mob click of which ever had that, its been days but i remember after school the 2 pmc's would spark the weed and all the smokers from school would hit it except the one guy from the rival WAG, and they'ed laugh then all 3 would walk off together and 1 was technically out of bounds at Jack London continuation. I learned they all knew each other, both sides, idk wtf happened but 2 former bff's started beefing 1 starts a hood the other gets one better and starts a bigger hood, and of course these former friends have all the same friends since like 2nd grade i believe and it became pick your side. The boundary line was either Oxnard or Burbank Blvd. deviding them. Also this girl at the same high school who's brother was a founding member and her baby daddy was one of the three too, said they used to stand accross the intersection and throw up gang signs and some times throw rocks at each other but that was it. Lol i saw a homegirl of mine fight 6 Runnymead St. Locas she was from Carnales 13 or C13. Anyways it would be great to see some history on stuff like that.
I really enjoyed you segments. I grew up not too far from most of those neighborhoods. I grew up in City Terrace. Plenty of rich history through out all these neighborhoods. Thank u again!!
My great grandfather was from clover gang so was my grandfather my grandmother has old photographs of them on that street he also worked the shipping and receiving yard at that brewery, alot of history we Irish Italian. ; )
I just wanted to say I understand what you're doing and I commend you for it. Gangs will always be part of a urban environment. It's good to know this sub culture and the history of why they're in the location they're in. Thanks and it's been very informative.
Robert Carrillo I have a video I want to do about the most victimized gang neighborhoods. What gang neighborhood produces the highest rate of victimization?
Terrific video! This is helping me with research for an historical crime novel I've been writing. I've gone to these neighborhoods many times but always need more details to get it right.
@@streetgangs I love this kind of history. It often gets ignored, but it's a very important part of life for millions of Americans. I grew up in Venice and Santa Monica at a time when gangs were a huge presence, and it was impossible NOT to know bangers, especially in the neighborhoods in which I lived. I learned a lot about what drew young men into gangs. Yes, the absence of fathers is part of it, but it doesn't tell the whole story. Another element is also the need for human connection regarding the shared hardship of poverty. And people are naturally territorial. Yes, gang members mostly live in units their family rent, but they begin to identify with the neighborhood at large, and the natural tendency of young men to feel a need to prove themselves creates for a combustible situation. I don't think society takes the issue seriously enough. To solve it takes a lot more than being tough of crime, but also being smart of crime prevention. This means addressing the adversity of poverty.
i was living in dog town in the late 70's i went to ann street elementary and it was rare to have a shooting during the week but when the weekend came we had shootings for sure. i actually saw dog town gangster having shoot outs with cops and we had some brutal murders in the projects. walking to school you would actually see brains and blood on the side walk from a killing the night before. people say los angeles got crazy in the 90's when crack came in but that's a lie, los angeles has always been crazy. 💙
When I was an Elementary I used to have an Irish teacher I always found it weird how he used to live in El Sereno where it's like 90% Mexican now I understand He's probably one of those old Irish people that never left when all the other Irish left.
The Italian area extended all the way through Chinatown, over the LA River into Cypress Park, and Glassel Park. There are some Italians still living there today. Over 100 years ago the Chinese neighborhoods grew and pushed many of the Italians out. Cypress Park and Glassel Park areas are mostly Mexican and Philippino today. A Philippino gang called Santanas and Mexican gang called the Avenues ruled those areas.
Great video series, very enlightening research on the gangs. I always correct people and remind them that the gangs are Mexican in reality, with some other Hispanic members scattered throughout. The Irish and Italian thing is very interesting, it's funny that to this day Irish people and Mexicans seems to get along very well, and even have history south of the border, for instance with the San Patricios.
Antonio Martinez because of catholic tradition & because Irish were looked down upon by Wasps - White Anglo Saxon Protestants when they first immigrated to the US
Both part one and two are very informative. Your ability to find the gang markings everywhere is incredible. For example when you find the crossed out letters on the mural, or the ancient gang initials etched in the sidewalk. I plan on placing a link of these two videos on my class wordpress site so it can be a useful resource for the novel The People of Paper by Salvador Plascencia. In the novel the author has a fake Los Angeles street gang called EMF that leave their initials, and are constantly prevalent in the text. I think the graffiti in the book is much like what you show in these two shorts; a way for a often marginalized group to leave their imprint in the community, and let people, or in the books case, know that they exist, and from the looks of your shorts will continue to.
Not only are these the oldest gangs in Los Angeles,But the oldest modern day gangs in America.Another crazy thing is that the biggest & baddest Hispanic street gangs didn't even make the list" F13 -18st - 38st .
Again, great work Alex Alonso. Informative how u pointed out gentrification in the varrios too. My towne, Minneapolis is gettin' hit hard by gentrification.
Joseph Janezich I wanted to point out how gentrification was occurring in these gangs neighborhoods so people can understand why policing, gang injunctions, federal RICO cases occur in these communities
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These historical series about the varrios with you Alex presenting and the info on location / graffiti / history etc is very interesting. The interviews are good. I just like the stuff that has history and how Alex presents it
Very cool! - grew up in East LA - hollenbeck jr high school , and Roosevelt.. you learn very quickly how to read the graffiti and territory- great job 👍
really good and informative! well spoken brother with a great spanish accent! always been intrigued by the combination of gangs, barrios, geography, etc...
great video fam. You went into the heart of a lot of neighborhoods. Did you get a pass from each area to do that, or did you just chance it and come on your own? Either way, very informative history. I hope you do the same with B's and C's as a series.
WORSTDAYOFYOURLIFE That would be dumb if anyone ran up on him. For one he's not a "gang member". 2 he's help giving these street gangs more recognition but in a historical way. He's not going through any hood disrespecting anyone. If it would to be anyone to run up in him it would be stupid little teenage youngsters who would think that's a way to earn a rep by picking on someone who's not anywhere close to being a gang member gang banging. And that would just be lame.
Hey your videos are dope man. You put the story and history into all of these so cali gangs so we can get better understanding. Especially all of the tagging schitt, now I can understand haha. Subscribed!
My dad grew up in the Dogtown neighborhood on Ann St. I remember whenever we took the train somewhere, there was a baseball field that ran up against the tracks and leaving or coming back into Union Station he’d always point to where he played left field, lol!
you should 818 gangs starting g from glendale with toonerville & west side locos & in burbank elmwood street gang & WS plays boys to sun valley Vineland boys to Pacoima & San Fer to north hollywood & so on..lots of history thru the 818 hoods..
Great to see how much effort you take to make these videos and how much research you do. Thank you for making this, it's really interesting to watch. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for the doc: my grand father was from Clover & his pops (never met him) was from also Clover, and he told me the og's were from Ireland, and that East Los & Boyle Heights were Jewish, Irish, Russians b4 the Eses, good doc: thanks for sharing.
They got Lincoln Heights Crips in Crown Heights Brooklyn right behind Lincoln Terrence Park. The front of the park is Lincoln Flats Crip{Rockaway Parkway} because it's Flatbush down the hill...up the hill is Crown Heights.
Molinari was the last name of an older gentleman that my cousins would speak highly of when their dad my late Uncle Danny had the recycling yard Cal-West 1530 So. Bonnie Beach PL. His name was Victor.....ok.....bye. =)
Great work on this documentary, very interesting; but it didn't even feel like 10 gangs... let's take it atleast ten more down and see what happens from there...? Top 20 Oldest Gangs in L.A. Pt. 3 and 4
You need to set up tours. I'm from the East Coast, and I have never been to Cali. I would love to visit all these locations and learn about the history of the streets.
Very interesting. Judging by the posts, most people are looking to glorify the gang sub culture. I grew up in East La, and I've met guys from all over LA, so I've always found it interesting to know beginnings, such as, who, why, where, when. I also find it interesting that some of these youngsters don't know how to spell there own gang names, nor the history of some homeboy's names. There's some clever and creative names out there that some gang members have.
You need to do more videos like this and less of the street interviews. . Those are cool but top 10s and history vids would be great.. I'm from Boston but the history of LA gangs has always fascinated me for some reason. Good job on this one!
Lmao Boston white boy "it wasn't your fault" looking ass I solve the problem on the board but I'm a janitor looking ass I live in Boston but wish I grew up in LA or anywhere hood looking ass
