As a die hard Seahawks fan, I can say that Dave Kreig could be extremely effective as a QB. Conversely, he could be easily rattled. & when he was rattled, he was tough to watch at times.
Jim Plunkett led the Oakland Raiders to two rings in the early 80s Plunkett was the NFL’s 1980 comeback player of the year & most valuable player of super bowl XV (Eagles-10 Raiders-28) He led his team to upset over Washington who had the NFL’s number one offense (SBXVIII Redskins-9 LA Raiders-38) Only quarterback in the AFC to win a championship in the decade
I'd put him in over Fouts. He was a winner, but never compiled great stats. He's a lot like Bradshaw. He had some terrible seasons when his team didn't have him as the starter. He never had a great season, but he had some hella good playoff runs.
Yes he did, but, he also had Pro bowler Dwight Clark and the very capable Freddie Solomon receiving along with a very strong defense that was led by the machine .... Ronnie Lott. Joe Montana won 4 Superbowls with the San Francisco 49ers, but, it must be pointed out that he had some serious talent playing with him for all 4 games and that is why I see him as the 2nd best ever.
@@SportZFan4L1fe - Indeed, Belichick v Walsh .... they are both fantastic coaches. The other important point is salary caps, the Patriots and Tom Brady have had to draft and trade on a budget as apposed to having the financial freedom that Montana's 49ers had when they wanted to bring someone expensive to the team
Thank you. Folks either don’t know or pretend to not know that Montana came onto a TRASH Niners team in ‘79-they went 3-13 that year and 6-10 in ‘80. Nobody saw the ‘81 team coming, going 13-3 and winning the SB. To pretend that Montana only won because he had a great supporting cast, is disingenuous as hell and ignores Montana’s individual greatness. Montana had the best intangibles of any QB since Unitas/Staubach-he could bring a team back from nowhere. He also won SBs with essentially 2 different rosters (the ‘81 and ‘84 SB teams were much different than the ‘88 and ‘89 teams. He didn’t “need” Rice, Taylor, etc to win
I remember that game, and for the rest of the season, I thought to myself, "Man, I hope they don't play the Dolphins again!" Yeah, he just tore apart the defense that year. All credit to him for that.
The bittersweet part of that is they were VERY close to a Super Bowl rematch. But they blew it against the Patriots in the AFC Championship then NE put up no fight whatsoever in New Orleans.
Dave Craig getting sacked by the Rams and then smacking the defender who sacked him in the hand to make him drop the ball recovering it and throwing a touchdown is one of the best plays I've ever seen
Ken Anderson led the NFL in passing twice in the 80s. Joe montana-twice Jim Mcmahaon-zero Bernie Kosar-zero Dave Kreig-zero Joe theisman-zero Boomer esiason-once Phil Simms-zero John Elway-zero Dan Marino-once Dan Fouts-zero
Aside from 81 and the strike shortened 82 season, Anderson was a sub par QB in the 80's. He had three seasons in the 80's where he threw more INT's than TD's.
Look at the team Montana had even when the told Montana he was done and young stepped in they said the best qb not best team bcos number 3 Montana went to KC played with Marcus _Allen thogh the got better Montana couldn't get to the Super bowl with Kc so what does that say
“Dan Marino isn’t a great quarterback because he never won a super bowl” True that must mean Randy Moss wasn’t an all time great receiver. Genius logic
Each of these talking heads contradict themselves over and over. Whoever Craig Carton is he say’s about Boomer “he’s #6, he shouldn’t be in the top10 never won a Super Bowl.” Not 5 min later “ # 6 is good shouldn’t be in top 5 “ it took him less then 5 minutes to back away from his Hot Take. Waffling idiots each and every one of them.
Dan Marino lost to one of the most balanced teams of all time. The '84 49ers not only had one of the great offenses of all time, they had one of the all-time great defenses. That team gets overshadowed by the '85 Bears and the '86 Giants, but really that '84 49er defense was nasty!
Fans actually would have been treated to a better game if that SB was between the '84 Seahawks vs '84 49ers... That Seattle secondary back then was the original LOB!
Exactly. And even in Niners history of the 80s, they get overshadowed by the teams that won in ‘88 and ‘89 that had the media darlings like Rice, Young, etc on that team....and “The Drive”. The ‘84 Niners are one of the best teams ever IMO, and I’m a lifelong NY Giants fan
Yeah, George Seifert is the most underrated coach in NFL history. Those 80's 49er defenses were amazing. They had like seven playoff games where they held opponents to 10 points or less, and 12 games they held teams under 20.
What about the '89 NINERS D ? They outscored there opponents 126-16 in the playoffs. Pretty comparable to the '85 Bears who outscored theirs 95 -10 I think. The 95 points could be wrong though. I know the 10 points given up is right. But I do know it's in the 90's and not more than 100...
Phil Simms is underrated and that is coming from a Cowboys fan that hated Simms in the 80's-90's. Randall Cunningham and Warren Moon should have been on this list.
Wait what! They didn't include Warren Moon?!?!?!?! I have him #2 on my list between Montana and Marino. I'm done here, I'm not even finishing this video.
@@philipwujr.4786 - People often forget that Simms was having a great year and possible MVP year in 1990. I totally agree with you, he had no HOF receivers but he did have one very good TE in Mark Bavaro but still. I don't think he gets nearly the credit he deserves and again, I'm a Cowboys fan. I still think Simms should be in the HOF.
@@nates9029 Good to hear coming from a Cowboys fan the East was full of classic rivalry games. Cowboys, Redskins, Eagles no matter the rosters It was must see football.
@@philipwujr.4786 - I grew up watching the NFC East from the early 80's on. I loved it when the Super Bowl came through the NFC East from 90-93 and 95...except for the Eagles. I respected teams like the Redskins of the early to mid 80's, the Giants from the late 80's and the Eagles from the late 80's. That was football as I grew up watching it. When the Giants won in 86, they were the best team in football. When the Skins won in 87, they were the best team in football. The Cowboys weren't very good then but the games were always interesting and tough. Even when the Giants won their most recent Super Bowls, I wasn't overly pissed - partially because they beat the Patriots but also because I respect the Giants and their fans. The team and fans I don't respect are the Eagles. Their fans acted like they had won a dozen Super Bowls before they even won one. I miss those teams from the 80's and early 90's. People always talk about the LT's and players like him but they forget players like Randall Cunningham, Gary Clark, Charles Mann, Carl Banks, Mark Bavaro , Joe Morris, Phil Simms and many others.
Top 10 quarterbacks of the 1980's? More like the top 9 quarterbacks after Joe Montana. I mean, come on...anybody with half a brain knows who was at the top of this list.
I have to admit that Joe Montana was the very first name that popped into my head when you think QBs and the 1980s. Montana is the first name that comes to mind because he’s was a winner. Not really concerned with the stats or numbers except for the number in the win column. Otherwise, Dan Marino was the second name that came to mind after Joe. Marino was the best pure passer of the 1980s and maybe of all time. Dan just never had a running game to offset the passing game. Everyone knew Miami had to pass, because they couldn’t do anything else, but still couldn’t stop him from making the completion. Montana knew how to win. No one was calmer or more in control of the offense in tight situations than Montana. All of the other great QBs of the 80s are similar to Marino, they put up big numbers, but unlike Joe, they couldn’t win the big games. Marino, Elway and Jim Kelly made Super Bowl appearances, some of them made multiple appearances, but couldn’t come away with a win, in fact, Elway took miserable loses in the Super Bowls, setting records for being beat so bad. Elway was finally able to get a couple of Super Bowl wins, but that was in the 1990s and with Shanahan as head coach, rather than Dan Reeves.
@@RoarOfWolverine I have Elway only because I believe talent wise he was the best. I wiffed on Jim Kelly on my list. I would've included him but I always thought of him as a doing his best in the '90s. Hell I'll kick Simms off my list and put Jim at 9. He was way better than Philop.
Montana, the man who couldn't throw the ball over 25 yards but did less with more who happened to have the 3 best receivers in the league. Totally overrated; he would've been the best of the above-average QBs on a lesser team.
Fouts has the most badass dropback/ throwing motion it was like he was throwing those bolts from his uni ./ Take out Dave Kreig insert Danny White 3 straight NFC Championship games on a huge stage .
Seeing the Bernie Kosar stuff really takes me back. My family had season tickets a couple of those years and those Sundays were dinner and the Browns with the family. Hell we dressed up in dawg garb and it was an event. It was the best times in my life through those years and Bernie and the Browns were the nucleus
Why does a guy have to win a Super Bowl to be considered a great QB!? There were plenty of guys like Moon, Kosar, Boomer, Marino, and Jurgensen who were great QBs who didn’t win championships but still need to be remembered as great QBs.
Hey, I'm a Montana guy, but you are right. Kosar especially. I liked him. Its just that like Boomer said..Joe made it look easy..it is not. Montana saw the play and defenses before the snap, saw 4 targets in 3 steps, and never hung a receiver out to dry..like Young did later. Yards after catch are huge, and ball being thrown to in-stride receiver, in front of him, is the key. Dan Marino was a great qb. Another Western PA guy like Joe. Elway whined too much. To me, that 55-10 loss is too much to overcome in my opinion. And they had a top secondary with Atwater and company..yet Joe destroyed them. Just like Miami's "killer B" defense, which I still laugh at because I won a lot of money in that SB...and I gave Miami 20 points and still won.lmao
@Harry Engel Yes, but Plunkett was a Super Bowl MVP and Comeback Player of the Year. He could win big games. I always liked White but he could never win the big games. And McMahon was iconic and flashy but except for 1985, generally undependable.
@devildog1982z yeah I'm a Steeler fan and hated Plunkett because he beat my Steelers in 80 and 83. This argument that "he had a great team" doesn't hold water. Show me a 2 time SB winning QB who didn't have a great team.
No love for Danny White, eh? Taking over for the #1 QB of the 70s, 3 straight NFC Championships, setting team records all over the place, winning games in classic style, etc. Come on man!
You don't want to be the man, that REPLACES the Man... I loved Danny White he never GOT the RESPECT that he deserves. Yes QB/ Punters don't happen once in a 100 yrs NFL wise.
The real missing guy is Steve Bartkowski. Led the league in passing once. Was top 5 3 or 4 times. Quite possibly the strongest arm in the history of the league.
Only being a top 5 qb 3 times in a decade isn’t deserving of this list. And having a strong arm means jack shit when you’re talking about being a great quarterback
Yeah, nope Steve had a low completion pct, threw almost as many int's as td's and only played until 83 or 84 as a starter. In his last 2 years he started 5 or 6 games each year.
Jim Plunkett won two Super Bowls in the 80s. Joe Theisman won one, but he did so with a coach who won two additional Super Bowls with with two other quarterbacks.
Because his statistics and overall play was horrendous. Yes, he had a couple big playoff/SB moments but he won because of his team. He threw 34 more INTs than TDs. Never made a Pro bowl and never threw for 3000 yards. Never threw for 3000 yards once in his entire career. Cmon man….
This list probably has the most obvious Top 4 imaginable, and then a really hard toss-up between 5-10. Also 4:42 is a hilarious take and I'm glad they kept that in. xD and so is "hE cAN'T bE oN tHE tOP tEN oF tHE dECADE bECAUSE hE nEVER wON a sUPERBOWL", as if there were more than ten Superbowls played during the 1980s. And hey, the little nods to 1980s programming is kinda cute. Rare instance of NFL Films doing humor right.
I'm old. I grew up in the 80s. I'm playing against huge guys (6'2) and was barely 6'. So I developed "The Bernie Kosar Sidearm". I literally learned how to wing a pass under or over a defender's shoulders on a rope. I would practice every day learning how to throw sidearm because these big huge dudes were in my face all day.
i played corner back in the 80's. Not in college let alone being a prospect or anything, but QBs who could find lanes were SO much more difficult then "big" arms or big guys bc I couldn't get a read or a jump watching you guys. Fun times though.
It's fun to throw a football sidearm, you get tremendous rotation on the ball, it spins like crazy. And I find you can get amazing accuracy throwing sidearm, ala Bernie, Stabler, Steve Young. I remember Brad Johnson used to throw almost straight over the top and the ball had like no spin on it and would always wobble and sputter. Brad was decent, but his passes looked so ugly.
I always thinks that Joe Montana's 1st and 2nd Super Bowls are kinda like Russell Wilson's winning Super Bowl with the Legion Of Boom That 81 and 84 San Fransisco 49ers had a great secondary, great pass rush, solid running game and an underrated receiving corps
I am too. I think a case could be made for a couple of others, but people don't remember just how different the Bears were with him under the center as opposed to without him. Maybe other QBs are just as successful if you put him in McMahon's place? Sure. But he still was the right fit at the right time for the right team.
Teams win superbowls not QBs. Most important position, but QBs that have help on both sides of the ball are able to win multiple rings. Marino was better than Montana individually. No disrespect to Joe he was phenomenal in his own right but Marino was something the nfl will never see ever again.
I think xxx is a great QB because he was on a team with a great offense and a great defense is one of the stupidest comments a person can make. There have been some less than stellar quarterbacks who were on championship teams. Riddle me this - how many times has having the leagues highest paid quarterback resulted in a teams winning the Super Bowl? There are studies which show that as the percent of the overall teams salary given to the starting quarterback exceeds 10% their chances of winning a championship go down.
i work with a few 20 somethings who give me shit for saying john elway was the best of all-time. they argue brady, because he has the most rings, and then say say aaron rodgers second best, which completely invalidates their argument for brady. hahaha. if you are going by rings it's brady, montana, bradshaw, etc. but basing it solely off of super bowls or stats, to me, is narrow minded. there are so many factors that go into being a great qb.
The 2000s and 2010s were great times for QBs as well. Tom Brady, Drew Brees, the Manning bros, Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisberger, Russell Wilson, Phillip Rivers, Tony Romo. There are a few more. some great talents breaking out this decade too
People need to chill out a little bit on the "Did he win a SB thing" The Giants, w/ their defense and running game, could win a SB w/ Simms or Hostetler. The '85 Bears just needed a better QB than Steve Fuller to win a SB
As a diehard Bears fan, I will tell you that Simms was substantially better than McMahon. McMahon never came close to throwing for 3000 yards in a season.
@Harry Engel You can write this down for all posterity: Matt Contreras could & would have taken the Bears to the Super Bowl in 1985....AND he would have had the sense ( unlike Mcmahon) to agree with coach Ditka at halftime during the only 1985 loss on that Monday night, screaming at the defense to try a zone to counteract the success my Dolphins were having against the Bears !!! Unfortunately for the Bears, their defensive coordinator was a dense, self-righteous, ignorant failure as a coach who could never admit his own stupidity in continually running the same defense out there drive-after-drive, getting humiliated. Ryan and McMahon were both too dumb to change strategy, even with the whole country watching.
Dave Krieg being on this list is a great catch by the Network. I saw a lot of Seattle games on TV during the 1980's and #17 was really good, as long as you could overcome his tendency to fumble.
They had a nickname for him in Seattle called "Soap Dish." It was like the ball just slipped out of his hands. It didn't take away from the magical plays he could make, but it certainly hurt his team overall looking back on it.
1:08-I was at this game and saw this play from this vantage point. My dad's season tickets were in that endzone in Philly. And if Neil Lomax hadn't been so injury prone he'd be on this list.
Neil Lomax had a great career in St. Louis. He used to get his head handed to him every week like David Carr and he still managed two pro-bowls. If he had a O-line like Jim Hart's of the 70's, he would have been remembered. Phil Simms was consistently the 2nd or 3rd best QB every year in the NFC East
B/c he didn't consistently start for the Eagles until '87 and he wasn't the Randall we remember until at least '88 or '89. I say this as an Eagles fan who loves Randall. Jaws was the better Philly QB of the 80's tho Randall had the more impressive talent and career.
Pleasantly surprised to see Dave Krieg on the list. He's typically overlooked by everyone outside Seattle. I'm always surprised that so many people who claim to be NFL fans don't know who he is. Steve Largent is generally considered one of the top 3 WRs of the 80s. Everyone knows who he is, but few people know who threw the ball to him for most of the decade. The most frustrating thing about Krieg was his inconsistency. His career stats show he was a very good QB, but that's what he averaged out to over time. He might have had the greatest standard deviation in his game stats than any other QB. One week he would play like Joe Montana in his prime, and the next week he would look like the worst QB in the league. The highlights in this video demonstrate that. You see him dropping dimes to Largent, and then you see the ball fall out of his hand when he tries to throw it. You never knew which Krieg you would get from week to week.
So would you compare him with today's Ryan Fitzpatrick? I imagine Krieg, on average, is probably a little better (after all, Seattle deemed him good enough to actually keep for quite a while.)
@@thenumberquelve158 That might be a good comparison. I haven't followed Fitzpatrick much, but from what I know about him he is also hot and cold from week to week. As for keeping him, it was different era before free agency. Teams were stuck with their QBs and could only replace them through the draft or trade. Krieg was benched in the middle of the 86 season after Knox grew tired of his streaky play, but his backups were even worse and they lost every game, so he put Krieg back in and he played like Joe Montana for the rest of the season. Krieg seemed to drive Knox crazy with his inconsistency, and I think he might have picked up a different QB in free agency if it was available.
Jim McMahon will always be my favorite QB of all time. I don’t like most cocky shithead types but idk the way McMahon played the position like a FB really impressed me. His passing stats were not great, but combining what he could do passing with how he ran for extra yards… That’s what I would coach up.
I am still a fan of Dave Kreig. I was pleasantly surprised to see him on this list. I agree that several who were not on the list but should've been. Many who were overlooked have been named by other "commenters".
Jim Plunkett Raiders Quarterback (1980-86) Most Valuable Player of SBXV with the 1980 Oakland Raiders (Raiders 27 Eagles 10) 1980 NFL Comeback player of the year Led the 1983 Los Angeles Raiders to a second Super Bowl in four seasons LA Raiders 38 Redskins 9 SBXVIII
Elway should be ahead of Fouts. 3 Superbowls appearances with nothin vs 3 AFC championship games appearances with HOF WR and TE( godfather of modern TE), and pro bowl WR.
@Harry Engel He was a HEISMAN CANDIDATE coming out of college at Grambling in '78 also a FIRST ROUND CHOICE.He was the FIRST BLACK QB to be a Heisman nominee from a Historically Black College and the second overall joining SANDY STEVENS from Minnesota in the early '60s.
@@dwightlove3704 Not only that but DW was the QB when Tampa had their first real success as a franchise, making it all the way to the NFC championship game before falling to the Rams in a flash flood 😆 😆, IIRC. Tampa had a good D, I realize, and they were shut out at home vs L.A., but the Rams only managed 9 pts, plus the Rams had a heckuva D 8n ‘79. The game was a MESS... but my point is, he helped get TB to within a (very close) a game of the Super Bowl.
Robert Paige so Jim McMahon QB’ed a team with the 3rd lowest ranked defense and running game to a SB title (like Eli did in 2011)??? So Jim McMahon threw for 330 yards and multiple TDs in -17 degree wind chill (like Eli did in Green Bay in the 2007 NFC title game)?? So Jim McMahon threw the football 58 times without an INT in muddy conditions against the most back-cracking defense in the NFL (like Eli did in the 2011 NFC title game)??? Oh yeah, McMahon did NONE of those things. To say nothing of Eli’s 240+ consecutive starts, 5,000 yard passing season, multiple 30 TD seasons, etc
@@TheToad075 Goat 🐐 Brady 7 rings and 5 sb mvps and 617 td passes and 83 td passes and 14 game winning drives and 15 pro bowl selections all 6 NFL records Lies and more lies that Tom Brady only throws check downs more proof you don't know football 😂
@@TheToad075 Like Joe Montana never threw check downs tp Rodger Craig out backfield 💀 2021 NFC championship Buccaneers 7 Packers 7 Tom Brady 52 yard deep pass to Chris Goodwin on 3rd and 10 to keep drive alive and score Buccaneers 14-7 lead 2021 NFC championship Buccaneers 14 Packers 10 Tom Brady 39 yard deep pass for touchdown to Scotty Miller before half and Buccaneers 21-10 lead Last i checked those arent check downs clown Goat 🐐 Brady 7 rings and 5 sb mvps better all time Quarterback then Montana 4 rings and 3 sb mvps
My top ten NFL QB 1980's were 10.) Ken Anderson 9.) Randall Cunningham 8.) Bernie Kosar 7.) Phil Simms 6.) Boomer Esiason 5.) Joe Theismann 4.) Dan Fouts 3.) Dan Marino 2.) John Elway 1.) Joe Montana Sorry Jim McMahon you had too many injuries sorry Dave Krieg you had too many fumbles and sorry Doug Williams you jumped from the NFL to the USFL
I remember watching a game between Joe Montana and the 49ers vs Bobby Hebert and the Saints. At halftime, the Saints were up 21 points. I turned to my buddy and bet him $100 in beer (in installments) that Joe would come back and win. Challenge accepted. Guess what happened. I didn't have to pay for beer for a couple of weeks.
Montana is a legend he did it with the Irish, did it with the 49ers, did it with the Chiefs. There are 3 QBs with 4 or more Super Bowls that is Terry Bradshaw, Joe Montana, and Tom Brady I have no idea why people try and make them less of what they are yes they had good teams but so didn't other guys and yet they won a lot of Super Bowls so yeah that tells you something.
It's Joe Montana and the 9 battling for 2nd place in the 80s. For those complaining about Fouts, Marino, and Elway being the 3 after Joe: San Diego was defense optional under Air Coryell Marino came in when the Dolphins no-name D was aging and the organization didn't replace them or give him a running back to keep defenses honest. Elway took the Broncos with average rosters to 3 Super Bowls in 4 years. In the 90s, he had Terrell Davis to hand off to and a defense to win Super Bowls.
Agreed. There's been some teams that won SB's with blah to mediocre QB play; Peyton Manning was abysmal in 2015 but the Broncos won it all anyway. Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer weren't amazing QBs but got the Ravens and Bucs to Super Bowl W's.
no Jim Plunkett? seriously the guy won 2 super bowls and he’s not on the list? only 2 QBs won more them 2 championships (Jim Plunkett and Joe Montana) in the 80s and you got guys on here that never even got to the show shame on you
Lynn Dickey was a pretty damn good QB. Had he had a team capable of winning anything he would be near the top of this list. I get that he's not on, Green Bay was terrible the entire decade but nonetheless as far as quarterbacking goes, he was damn good.
@@orangeandblackattack Horrible defense but he had Coffman, Jefferson and Loften for recievers and a t,000 yard rusher in Terry Middleton. Hard to say he was worse off than Montana or Fouts.
The 2nd through 10th Best Quarterbacks of the 80s were 3-6 in the Super Bowl with 1 Super Bowl MVP. Jim Plunkett was 2-0 in the Super Bowl and was Super Bowl MVP once.
As a Charger fan I'll take Fouts at three. Probably overrated but I'll take it ;) Poor Jim plunkett. I'll never understand why that man gets no respect. Him or Tom Flores. I don't like much about the raiders but even I know that Plunkett was a huge part of those Super Bowl wins.
Sept 7, 1981. SADLY, Dan Fouts and his Chargers smashed my Browns 44-14 in the Season/Home opener on MNF at Municipal Stadium. The only NFL game I have ever attended.
I hate when people call players in any sport compilers. You do what you do. A lot of things are out of your control. Kreig played for a lot of 7-9 to 9-7 teams. You need whole teams to win. He had 1 real weapon and that was Steve Largent.
When he had a great running back it allowed them to be in position to make the playoffs. That wasn't very often. And he still managed to lead them to a then franchise best 12-4 record with a leading rusher David Hughes with 327 yards, a full back. Yeah, a bit underrated. Knox of course is heavily underrated in history at head coach. Man was a fantastic head coach and its a shame he never won the big one.
For what? He was only a starter 3 seasons of the 80s, yet he led the league in fumbles twice and, sacks 3 times, and yards lost on sacks 3 times. He even led the league in losing yards on sacks when he only started 5 games.
Absolutely not Ron Jaworski was the better QB for the Eagles played there longer, put up better numbers and actually got to a Super Bowl. Randall Cunningham was nothing but a highlight reel during his time at the Eagles it wasn’t till he got to Minnesota and was surrounded by talented offence that he became a more of a pocket passer and not running around the field thinking its The Randall Cunningham Show that got him so banged up in Philadelphia that forced him to quit in the first place.
@@howardcosell2022 We'll have to agree to disagree on that. I admire Dan Reeves as a coach but he was more than the coach and he was quite a failure while wearing his other hats.
@@z1g Reeves was power hungry, but Joe Collier ran the defenses way before the 'Orange Crush' years of the 70's. He always had one of the best defenses in the AFC throughout the 80's. Reeves would have won with a QB like Steve DeBerg
10. John Witkowski 9. Todd Hons 8. Joe Ferguson 7. Rusty Hilger 6. Chuck Long 5. Bob Gagliano 4. Jeff Komlo 3. Eric Hipple 2. Rodney Peete 1. Gary Danielson Lions top 10 of the 80s
I have Montana ahead of Brady because he played when the quarterbacks and receivers could actually Be Hit. It's flag football now and you get suspended if you hit the star QB.
I count the stats from the time Roger Goodell took over with an *. It's easy to put up numbers where you throw the ball 40-50x a game, and it's a penalty if you spit on the QB. The question is if you take the QB's from the 2000's and put them in the 1980's, would they succeed? We know that the QBs from before would LOVE these new situations
I would put Ken O'Brien on here before Jim McMahon! Way better passer, his shootouts with Marino where legendary...also a 1983 alumnus. Still holds most Jet passing records...they talk about Namath but Ken was the real deal. Bad coaches, drafts and teams, no reliable recievers still was solid.
I feel Bernie Kosar would have been my favorite. Crazy throwing motion, not a media darling, smart guy. I remember old clips of him but some of the information they put in here makes me want to research and write a book on this guy.
As a REdskins fan, YES FOUTS should be ahead of Elway. Fouts just had the misfortine of being in the same division of the Raiders and a having a Stinky Defense. I remember making a mental note when The Super Chargers were going to be on Monday night football as a kid in the 70's. Never dreamed I was watching the future of 80's Redskins offensive. He drove the Cowboys nuts in a first half game on Monday night, a few years removed from them winning the Super Bowl (doomsday defense).
I'm sure you're justifiably proud of Jim Plunkett's Hispanic heritage ( also Joe Kapp ), and and Jaworski's toughness, and so I agree with you. I'll say Mcmahon the clown doesn't even belong on this list...sorry.
@@67marlins81 There heritage has nothing to do with their performance. McMahon benefited from his defense more than anyone. He was Trent Dilfer before Trent Dilfer
I agree with Vic Carucci, I feel that Phil Simms is a Hall of Famer (not many have agreed with me when I've said this); he was more of a big-play gunslinger than he's remembered as, and he was mentally tough. I like this list: Jim McMahon missed A LOT of time, but he was very good when he played, and in a more wide open offense could've put up bigger numbers as he did in college. I'm glad Dave Krieg wasn't forgotten, because he could really play, especially when he got hot (a very streaky QB overall). I'd probably swap Dan Fouts for John Elway's spots, but in the end I'm fine with where they're located. Fouts was more seasoned and disciplined with better weapons, but Elway did more with less (surround by useful but hardly game-breaking offensive weapons): tough call for me. I feel strong cases could be made for Jim Plunkett, & Danny White, but I'd leave Warren Moon, Jim Kelly, and Randall Cunningham for the 90's (interestingly enough, all three were exceptional during the 1990 season).
Boomer was a 2nd round pick because he stated that he would not play for the USFL. NFL owners knew they could get him in the 2nd round while they divided up the leftovers from the USFL draft in January.
They do have a point re: Moon as he only played 6 years in decade ( beginning 84 ) and 90 & 91 were his 2 Monster Years when the Run & Shoot really got together. Also 94 & 95 in Minnesota he had 2 more huge years ( 4000+ yards ). He should be on 90s list despite better overall competition.
Danny White was good. He played when there were LOTS of good QBs in the league. He inherited a good team, with great receivers and a HOF coach. But, he was closer to Craig Morton than he is to Roger. He was a VERY good punter, too. He was better than Krieg. White had to wait 4 years for Staubach retired to finally get to start. I'm fine with him missing the list. But he sure as hell won more consistently than Fouts or Krieg. I spent a few years in Connecticut, working in a deli. I asked my customers to name the top QBs of all time. Most of them were Giants fans. Everyone named Theisman along with Brady and Montana. I couldn't believe it. THEN I found an amazing stat - the most comebacks by a QB against a single team. You guessed it, it's Theisman vs the Giants. It was an eye opener for me about how we get so many different opinions about these things. Relativity makes a difference. Elway at #4 shows how great the QBs were in that decade. Personally, I'd put him at #2 behind Montana, and way ahead of Fouts. Whatever "clutch" is, Elway had it in tons. Quick, name the running backs of the Broncos during the 1980's... I'll wait. Fouts? He's the Jim Hart of the 1980's. Name a big game he won. The Marathon game. Anything else? No Super Bowls. Zero. Through age 28, he had 82 TDs and 101 INTs. For his career - 254 Tds, 242 INTs. He is WAY overrated. Krieg and White both had better TD/INT rates. Krieg and White both had better QB ratings. Fouts should be 9th or 10th. And his teammates hated him. OH, also... his teams didn't lose heartbreaking plaoff games. They got trounced by good teams, or lost to inferior teams. Year after year after year. Great QBs don't let that happen. His HOF induction is a joke. Marino is the best pure passer I've ever seen. I have no issue with anyone ranking him #1. I can't remember him having a bad game in a big game. He's the anti-Fouts. His teams lost DESPITE him. The Chargers lost BECAUSE of Fouts. The Dolphins may have lost, but I don't remember it being Dan's fault. Montana is the only QB I'd compare to Staubach. Brady is great, but I'd take both those guys over Tom. Montana had Bradshaw's SB winning %, Staubach's QB rating (meaning best of his era), Elway's and Roger's leadership/clutch qualities, won back to back MVPs, and his teams had 11 straight winning records with him as starter. It should have been 13, but the strike season of 1982 messed that up. My all-time list: 1. Staubach 2. Montana 3. Brady 4. Unitas 5. Elway 6. Marino 7. Bradshaw 8. P Manning 9. Aikman 10. Otto Graham or Sammy Baugh (I'm not old enough to have seen them play, but they pretty much revolutionized the QB position) Peace
I’ll say this to constant hater Dan Amendalora. Why didn’t the Bears win it all in 86? The D was almost just as good. What was different? Oh McMahon was out and Flutie played they lost to Skins in playoffs. Not saying McMahon was great but give the man some credit for SB win.
Tad Pole probably Bills Flutie was legit and he got screwed when Wade Phillips got orders from ownership to bench him in playoff game in 99 vs Titans Music City Miracle. Johnson didn’t play bad but maybe Bills r ahead by more if Flutie played so a miracle play wouldn’t matter
Denver always had a better D than Miami. They also had a better running game but nothing special. And like the guy in the video said, Elway put up a lot of bad games. Something that was far less frequent for Marino.
Also we should also THANK Isaac Green for posting this video to RU-vid. I never saw this one before & it felt great to disagree so much with an NFL Top 10! Lol
Wes Chandler John Jefferson Charlie Joyner Kellen Winslow Vs Vance Johnson Mark Jackson Ricky Nattiel Clarence Kay I don’t mind the Elway 4th versus Fouts 3rd place ranks , but it’s just stunning the difference of available talent between them. I blame that on Denver’s GM(s) , one instance of note is Denver taking Tommy Maddox over the obvious and expected pick Carl Pickens.
Denver made some bad picks in those days. Didn’t really start to get it together until the early 90s. Got Rod Smith and Shannon Sharpe and eventually TD carried John Elway to Super Bowl XXXII and XXXIII. Elway had his best years wasted by an inept front office. Kinda getting that same feeling with Aaron Rodgers and the Packers. Might get carried by Aaron Jones.
Zen Of Tupac I mean. I’m a huge fouts fan ... Charlie Joyner was a bengal and not as good John Jefferson was my favorite receiver and went to Green Bay and was Below average I give a ton of credit in history to bad weather quarterbacks Jim Kelly Tom Brady Rodgers Favre Kenny Anderson And John elway Elway. A kid from California could have been insane with the niners or chargers or blew out his knee on his first play It’s the cards you have. Broncos had a way better defense. Fouts got to play in sunny California. Fouts got crushed in that ice bowl playoff game in Cincinnati ... otherwise he goes to a super bowl. But he played the whole decade and elway and Marino only played six years of it ... has to count for part of it
@@michaeleisenstein4929 Elway benefited from playing in Mile High Stadium. @Zen of Tupac Elway played with a great receiver in Steve Watson for the first part of his career
