Metro 2033 is the biggest mind-fuck of a game I have ever played and I loved it. Doesn't get as much praise as I think it should. My opinion, and this one gets even less than SO:TL
i found with metro it got a lot more attention then spec ops, especially with the new redux on the next gen consoles, but yes that is quite a mind-fuck as well! both great games!
+Zohaib Khawaja That's massively over-simplifying it and completely ignoring all the psychological aspects to the story that most games don't even attempt to explore.
+Zohaib Khawaja yeah like everithing about spec op was really a better plot twistsn than everything cod have, spec op explore things cod glorify and you are really over-simplifying that scene, if you dont understand that and really think that cod is better you are so stupid
Lewis Hawksworth But the thing is, it's gameplay was just generic Gears of War clone #892734. There is no reason to play it again because you have already experienced the story.
Dallas47 i think its better to play CoD MW franchise, the story is really good but, if you played im hard or veteran mode, you dont need to play it againt, thats why the only think besides the story its the multiplayer full with rat kids and the special mission
Ha, literally just played it, was scoffing to myself as I was firing the phosphorus on the 33rd troops and assumed that the huge bunch was just troops in a trench or something. - - Only when the scene plays out did I actually let out an "oh.." - - Dark shit
I think that when Shepard kills Roach and Ghost in MW2 was a more shocking moment in the Call Of Duty franchise. The terrorist mission is more controversial than shocking.
when shepard kills you and ghost its brings up so many plot holes rather then it being shocking...plus controversial is shocking...why the hell would it be controversial in the first place
the real shock on spec ops the line was that it actually had a story...and a really good one at that, i played it thinking it was another mindless war hero call of duty kind of shit, needless to say i was in for a big and pleasant surprise.
Pratik Hazari For me when you shoot the crows of civilians. I know you can fire in the air and they run away but at that tme I was so mad for Lugo that I wanted to kill them. That really got me. Phosporus made me mad because I had no choice in this. Even in the game I thought the weapon is so bad that I dont want to use it on enemy
Jirka Dusek This is an alegory to every rail shooter actually. In most of modern military shooters you don't have any choices. You do what you've been told to. Spec Ops gives an example like "And what if we are made to do something horrible?"
Mr440c I think the point was simply that if there would be choice everyone would reload the same game and choice other way. And that would break the immersion of dealing with your mistake.
Jirka Dusek It would break the whole idea of the game. If there would be a choice there wouldn't be a game. Like Conrad said: 'We were never meant to be there" Someone once said that the only way to beat the game is to stop playing.
to me, while the White Phosphorus Scene from Spec Ops was shocking, that's NOTHING compared to the ending when your grand delusion of being a hero comes crashing down on walker.
Diamond Warrior yes, but Walker blamed Konrad because he started it and if he'd just obeyed his orders, none of this would've happened, Walker tried to fix Konrad's mistake by making the same mistake even though he knew for sure that he can't save Dubai because Riggs robbed it of its last hope for survival when he crashed the water trucks but Walker wanted to redeem himself and his team for the terrible Willi Pete mistake they made bur unfortunately they failed and now his life is hell even though the only ones who know about that incident aside from Walker himself are dead so this makes his mental health even worse!!!!!!
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Spec Ops the Line without a doubt was the best story driven game I've ever played. Spec ops and metro are my favorite story line driven games. Spec Ops was just crazy good, and it deserved much more attention
The White Phosphorous one made me drop my controller real hard into the ground. I knew at the time that this game was full of moral complexity, but nothing prepares a man for this. This must be the real feel a soldier gets in his gut when he sees the aftermath of his victorious actions.
Amen To That. |-----|Spoiler Alert|-----| I also cringed when you were on your way to Lugo and found out that those people hung him. I am not trying to justify my (gaming) actions but honestly, I shot all those people without even doubting.
Alexandre Batalha Yeah, that stuff is N-A-S-T-Y. It ignites on contact with air, burns like the red stuff on match-heads (and if you hold 9 matches together in a 3x3 and then use another to light all their heads at once you'll get an idea of what that's like), goes out if you cover it with water but ignites again when the water drains away and gives off that white smoke. If you need to cross a road and there's a sniper or an MG nest watching, a grenade that gives off an almost-instananeous smoke cloud like that is a really handy thing to be able to toss into the street, but you want to make *very* sure you cross upwind of it and *don't* throw it near people, because when that phosphorus pentoxide comes in contact with water it forms *hot, pure* phosphoric acid and your eyeballs, the insides of your mouth, nose, larynx, pharynx, trachea and lungs, your armpits and, actually, your entire body contain water. Then you get dead bodies with second- and third-degree burns all over, wearing nearly-intact clothing.
+Alexandre Batalha It was a real problem in Vietnam, there were several instances where coordinates that were off just a little burned to death the friendly unit ahead of the one that called in the WP.
DeeDubb What I hate, in the second game, is the part near the beginning when you're grinding for experience. I could see a lot of people not wanting to play the game due to the constant combat in that part of the game.
+Grumpy Monk I agree, in CoD and Battlefield you kill hundreds to thousands of people, with literally no repercussions... Spec Ops: The Line took it up to the next level and then some. That game did some heavy psychological fucking.
+thatguyyousawinasda Actually, the story is so enormous that there is danger of many loose ends not being tied. The trouble is that the story is scattered through the Grimoire system and the seemingly superfluous text and graphics for armour and weapons, making it impossible for the regular Joe to piece it together. That being said, the amazing story IS there, and I think they will pull it off if they do things the way they want to, as they have some very educated people back there. Someone in Bungie knows their philosophy, political theory, and art history VERY well.
Candy Astronaut Hard to save people when you're put at a constant disadvantage a lot of the time forcing you to do horrible Things unknowingly *which is why i sayd definition of "villain" as a normal villain is well aware of what he's doing*
Specs ops the line...the story was soo fucking intense that it actually lets u experience what a war is about and how it affect the soldiers and the innocent lives that are caught up in it and they pulled that off with a fucking masterpiece.
Tom Stuart I've been to war myself 10 years and I gotta say I've been through hell... actual hell because you have no idea what it feels like when you lose your teammates to a lunatic!!!!!!
Spec Ops: The Line really messed me up, man ... I still think about that game! Without a doubt that white phosphorous level really got me thinking about what I do in a video game. So much so that one point in the game, I get to choose if I let a man burn to death or use my gun to kill him quickly, (i won't tell you why) but at that point in the game I was so f*ck up that i just walked away as he screamed and as he begged for me to do it, I just kept walking . . . i didn't even look back.
Yes but notice little things. Like how if it is really like it fades to black but if it's a dream you fade to white. Then later in the game the real world and the dream wrong start to melt together. The game is a master piece about war, and the horrors of it. As well as what we do in video games without even thinking about it. Seriously I could write a 3 hour long seminar about this game easy, shit the first scene could be a full hour long discussion.
Dude I know what you mean there. I had a similar experience in FABLES: Wolves Among Us. Tried to play the nice guy throughout the game but having to deal with Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumb that when fighting them the last time, I lost it and just tore the F*cker's throat out. Didn't even think twice... you know comparing Tweedle Dee and Tweedle dumb to phosphorous sounds kinda ridiculous.
Totally agree with number 1. An idiotic friend had allready told me about the plot twist and i still was amazed at how well it was done. And in my 2nd ME3 playthrough i got the tali suicide part and i had no idea that that could happen, and fuck i did cry. Tali is just such a good character
just hearing her crying under her helmet as her birthship calls out a mayday and slowly burns up in their own home world's atmosphere...it just...I DIDNT SIGN THE PERMISSION SLIP FOR THIS FEEL TRIP MAN!!!
+Benedict Stohner I made a renegade Shep for me2 and I got through it pretty well...but man, I have never been able to finish a renegade play on 3. just too much sadness. especially mordin and tali's death(tali cuz of romance, and more in cuz its tearjerking to hear his pain and to see him crawling across the floor in a failed attempt to save the krogan
+Simón Salgueiro first time I played Mass Effect, she died since I was stupid and didn't do enough to have both her and Legion live.... I rebooted my game so quick because I was not going without Tali
Shaun Spensley Problem with me, all games I play I end up being the Hitler :(. Either by betray my own team mates and burn the pact of cooperation, or, go full out genocide on everything that moves and can be killed.
Shaun Spensley yeah :D and on my second playthrough a aptly named my character: darth revan.... then he/i was just saying, as the dialogue just filled in the gaps with my given name, that "i'm not darth revan anymore...i'm darth revan now"
I would've considered Lee getting bit more shocking than Carley getting shot. That was quite shocking in itself, but Lee, the main character getting bit, is way more unexpected than Carley. And besides, not everyone saved Carley back in the first episode.
A lot of good ones in the walking dead. Lee getting bit, Carley dying, Larry getting his head smashed in with a salt lick while giving CPR was surprising too, Carlos getting shot and then devoured, and maybe Seeing Kenny again after ppl thought he was dead was good too.
Not really I actually expected she was going to die but the fact that she still dies in just one episode was bullshit. Watchmojo be like: Censors the word " fuck" from Kenny. *Shows Graphic Decapitation from RE*
"No Russian" in MW2 didn't shock me that much because of all the heavy talk about it I was just waiting for it to happen, but I was actually pissed off that the undercover agent get killed after making all this massacre for nothing. In the other hand, I flipped tables when the nuke went off in MW. I think it was the first time that the protagonist I played in a game got killed right in the middle of a game.
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Agreed. Just as most plot twists in GTA V are probably more shocking than the torture scene. It seems those were choosen just because they are controversial scenes... Or maybe they used the word shocking in 2 ways,some of the stuff in the list related to one meaning and others,to the other meaning..
Yup.Ghost was still in everyone's mind for like 3 games after that. And even though Roach was a no one,ghost and mactavish really seemed to like him. Hell,i even cared for O-zone and scarecrow(the ones who died defending the house in the mission where ghost and roach die)... I saw myself reloading the mission to be able to save them. they die running down that hill though. Well,what im saying is:that is a high point in the entry and in all the franchise.
Matthys Fourie I always thought the nuke in MW1 was more shocking. I thought it would be your typical American ra-ra army shooter story and the protagonist can't possibly die. Even in the aftermath of the blast my first reaction was to laugh and think "How the fuck does he [the character] survive this?" It was only after he died that I actually went silent and everything began to sink in.
XxBILDOxX I remember not even caring for the No Russian mission. I mean,i just did it without questioning myself of what the media questioned. Dont think it really was a shocking moment for gamers.
Max McTabish Well it's less than two years ;) but I rather meant the combination of "Indie" and "relatively young age". AAA titles simply are way better known (both among the people that write these Top 10s, and the people that watch them)
Max McTabish So True. Best story and most surprising ending i've ever seen in my life. I was like "he's gonna come back somehow" for the rest of the game and almost crying pushing the "help brother" botton.
I think the part of The Walking Dead Season 2 Game when clementine dreams of Lee should've made the list...that was WAAY more shocking and unexpected than Lily killing Carley...
You know, your spoiler alerts aren't very helpful if you don't tell us what games you are going to spoil. I don't mean to sound like a jerk but, what, do expect us to play every game that has ever been made?
every one of these games are at least a year old. if you care about the game enough to care about spoilers, and you havent manage to play it after 12 months, it is your fault now. the same goes for tv shows and movies. spoilers isnt indefinite, in fact they went out of their way in being nice to even mention spoilers.
KOTOR was one of the best games of all time. Honestly was like watching a HBO drama or something. Simply beautiful masterpiece. The reveal at the end made my childhood! I still remember the morning I ripped open the game and woke up on that ship. Ahh the memories.
Yeah, but that fact it was there. I wanted to get gold on all missions (and succeeded) so I had to. To hear Michael pleading with Franklin, it was truly heartbreaking. I actually felt that father/son bond that they had.
KaneisafoolHD He has lines only in the lift and in the end of this mission, where nobody else could hear him. Also I can't understand, why he spoken to Yury in English in the original version of MW3? That is strange because he has few words in Russian: "С нами Бог" - "God is with us" in "No Russian" or "Ад ждёт тебя" - "Hell awaits you" in "Blood Brothers".
+Максим Г. Hi, I'm from Germany and if I try to shoot the civilians the mission fails. I have to run around doing nothing apart from killing the police forces and at the end Makarov kills me. Hmm it's kinda obvious that I'm a spy if I'm supposed to be a terrorist and kill nobody lol.
No Russian was an amazing mission, war happens on innocents people! Not just on the battlefield. You can deny it all you want but that doesn't make it not true.
It was marketing hype. Its target practice, you do not see any consequences, there is no deep meaning. I think this is highlighted when the board goes from delayed to canceled for the flight information.
I did and I did pay attention to the paper thin story. Call of duty is fun actioney rubbish, there is nothing deep or meaningful to any of it. Its like watching die heart, its fun but its not exactly shocking of thought provoking.
Then you have a biased mind that affects your judgement. There are meaningful parts, a lot of them. But talking to you is a complete waste of time, so bye.
GTA SA. finding out Smoke and Ryder where villains. and the game just started too (okay, about 20-35%) and call me nostalgic, but General Carvelle's death in Red Alert 2. didn't see that one coming. Starcraft, Kerrigan being left behind
Yeah, fuck smoke & ryder! Ryder always seemed like a bit of a weasel though, exactly the type of dude that would stab his bro in the back & smoke was just a snake! When smoke fucks cj over I was so pissed at that fat fuck
there were signs that they would betray you. big smoke lived in ballas territory and as Balthier -leading man said, ryder always seemed the traitor type.
still, didn't think Smoke would be the main guy. also had my worries about Ryder. but i kinda knew C.R.A.S.H was involved, just didn't think they would rope in 2 of your best buds
In Germany, "No Russian" wasnt quite the suprise because the News made a giant "This game makes go amok" story out of it. In the german version you cant kill any civilians and if you do, the mission cancels
Seriously? Wow, they are getting really creative with their censoring, which they can only do because video games aren't considered art here, despite films and music being considered as such.
Dominik Kensy This whole art thing is a long discussion. i think Video games should be considered art, but with things like nazi symbolism you should have the option to disable it
***** Interesting opinion. Well, I like me some well constructed atmosphere and like to give the developer enough freedom to achieve what he wants to. If he has to use symbols misused by a government almost 70 years ago to do that,then so be it.
***** in the Italian version it actually happens the opposite, if you don't kill anyone before going out of the building they shoot you and the mission restart.
Mmmh... I flipped more in black flag when rogers betrayed edward, and when the women died, and when that same woman was that pirate boy and she showed that she was woman to kenway on top of the windmill in kingston.
Bacon Bros I kinda knew she was a girl to begin with since her voice kind of gives it away but I was still shocked when she died. I thought her and kenway would have some relationship
Of course, putting Bioshock: Infinite in the Top 10 wouldn't really make sense, because Bioshock 1 is already in there, but the ending was so fucking mind blowing!!! And everything fits perfectly! The title, the portals and Elizabeth, even part part 1 and 2 of the franchise fit into this perfect story.
I'm totally with you. SPOILER... I mean you - the protagonist - get drowned by the girl you have been protecting all the time who you find out is your daughter because you are the bad guy you have been fighting the whole time. if that's not the most shocking thing... well then fuck me, right?
alexanderberan77 I'd say that the twist in the Original Bioshock was better. "Would you kindly..." ^^ In Infinite, i have to say that it's a twist they put out of their arses.
Poetabrasileiro I don't think they pulled the infinite twist out of the ass. The whole game seemed to have been built around it. But a lot of people hadn't played system shock and wasn't expecting anything like it when they played bioshock. By the time they got to infinite they were expecting a big twist so it had less impact. It's like saw 2 and 3 had great twists but the best twist was saw 1 because no one expected it.
JVegerot One moment per franchise. Also some players figured out the relationship between booker and elizabeth earlier on in the plot wheras the whole "would you kindly" reveal was kick in the nads as it was a shock to the player and the protaganist on how little choice and decisions you had in that game. It was also a bit of commentary on the game industry as a whole imo. Also the booker/eliz. thing is kind of a mindfuck and less easy to believe imo with the whole time travel nonsense. I honestly think Ken Levine was was on drugs writing the whole thing, its all over the damn place.
DemandedTuna really? i was more heartbroken killing sif in dark souls after he started limping, or being forced to kill solaire, or finding the lore of quelaag, or maiden astrea in demon's souls.
thedesertfox44 those are sad moments if you think about the lore but honestly who the fuck cares about quelaaag and her horrible sister, they are nothing but monsters to you. sif is a big ASS dog and that's why you feel bad about killing it(imagine if Artorias had a giant mosquito as a companion you'd all be like "DIE MOTHERFUCKER DIE!!"). And Solaire... ye we all liked solaire but his death is more pathetic than sad or shocking. Differently, some GoW moments like Thai's death(that was unexpected for fucks sake), Maria's finding and Dom's death and many others... those are moments you remember, you feel so fucking emotional about those characters that you feel like you are losing a part of you.That said i want to make clear that i like Dark Souls and i do know all of its hidden lore, i just think GoW is more centered on emotions and makes you feel like a shit... i love both series so much
Andrew Morano Dom probably wouldn't have done it if (a) fans had decided not to save Carmine and (b) he DIDN'T have to put his wife out of her misery.
Andrew Morano What really made that scene was the music behind it.Dom for me was the most honourable and my favourite character in the game, I loved that dude.But what really sum's it all up is when Fenix said "…Dom". Nah man it's bringing back the feels :(
You're completely right! The first time I played it I was like: do I really have to shoot them? I didn't wanted to. And I know it's a game, but still...
Dulce Rosario Gomez Montoya .......exactly. I felt sick to my stomach. There is an option to skip it but it's got a red pill feeling to it and I had no fucking idea how intense the sequence was.
It's not a matter of just skipping it, at the time I didn't even know what I was getting into and, as a gamer you have to play it, or at least that's how I see it.
spec ops is about the hard moral choices of today's soildiers and as such has some brutal things that the characters do in game. white phosphorus is just barely legal by the geneva convention and is rarely given to us armed forces personell. the main purpose of this scene is to establish the phycological trauma to the main character that supplies the ending
+Mr. Tourge Modern Warfare 2 was horrible. Well, the story was okay. But some of the twists were completely illogical. The multiplayer was crap, too. Basically, every Call of Duty past CoD 4 is awful. But at least the first Black Ops tried to fix it.
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just a tip. when you are doing these massive spoiler videos maybe before you go into the clip bring up the name of the game and if its one you aint played yet you can skip. i would watch this but i dont wanna be spoiled. you guys already spoiled red dead redemption lol.
I'm about 6 minutes In. I've heard a lot of stuff about the game Chrono Trigger. I've never played it but I've heard a lot about an insane plot twist. Without telling me what it is, will it be up ahead?
Roberto Kalvin Then Try Age of Wonder 3. It's a fantasy stratagy game very similar of civilization V with a very deep micro-administration of your army. And the Manual Combat is AWESOME!
A kinda shocking, to me, scene was in Ocarina of time, when you remove the sword and travel 7 years in the future and all of hyrule is in ruins, with zombies instead of people and it seems to be the end of the world.
Haven't seen anyone mention Braid; the ending where you realize that you were the princess was running from in that breathtaking ending sequence shocked the hell outta me...
WatchMojo, you should put a list in the description of the games that are going to feature the video so we could decide if we watch the video or not. I've not seen any of your latest videos because I didn't want spoilers of some games that I didn't finished or played yet, and maybe if I had known what games featured the video, I would have watched it.
'Shepherds men are attacking us in the bone yard! Do not trust shepherd! I repeat do not trust shepherd!' I will never forgot when that son of a bitch shot you and Ghost at the end of that mission 😢 such a twist. I know the gaming community has a common hate towards COD but you have to admit that this moment is still so iconic along with the campaign as a whole. Shepherds betrayal should be on this list in my opinion, anyone else agree?
+Kronixz HD agreed, CoD4 was shocking, like truly shocking cause it hadn't done anything like that before, I remember the nuke going off not thinking much, until I realized that your character literally died. after that they rinsed and repeated the whole thing over and over
+Kronixz HD agreed also cod 4 was amazing. I hate when people call COD 4/WaW/MW2 really bad games purely because of how bad the new CODs are. They are too much on the hate bandwagon to realise that COD once upon a time were great games. Shite now obviously
would you kindly really stunned me. it was extremly clever and closing the gap between player choices and unavoidable game progression in a way, i never thought possable.
I feel like The Walking Dead has better moments. How about in season 2 when you find out that the baby was actually still alive and you killed someone for no reason. Or when you find Kenny again.
Or when Clementine gets shot by Arvo, or Lee getting bit and dying the next episode, or if you're just talking about Season 2, the Lee dream after she got shot.
dalzelljack Totally. I was kinda conflicted about it until I saw that the girl had hidden the baby in order to trick Kenny. Then I was happy I killed her.
Diddler On The Roof Same. It was definitely (for me at least) the hardest choice I ever had to make in the game, but I've been with Kenny longer, I couldn't just kill my best friend in this game. Then when I heard the baby crying, I knew I made the right decision.
...and Bioshock Infinite and Shadow of the Colossus. I don't know if it was laziness by WatchMojo,but both titles also deserved at least an honorable mention.
Totally agree with #1 and for the people saying WTF is KotOR? Umm like one of the best RPG ever and best story/plot twist in gaming. So if you haven't played KotOR shut your freaking mouth >.
Yacine SuPeR hErO yeah he finds out that he's the guy he's fighting against, in another dimention,that's way more shocking than "will you kindly" i think
Raziel being eaten into the reaver willingly to let kain kill the elder god was the most shocking thing to me, after 3 games with raziel, and 5 games with kain seeing this conclusion to their stories was pretty epic and unexpected.
Looks like everyone forgot about Kat's death in Halo: Reach, sure no one cares about her but you can't deny it was totally unexpected and out of nowhere!
Yeah. I was just thinking about that. After Jorge died you could tell it was destined for all of Noble, but Kat's death was just so sudden and instant that it made it so shocking
I think they mentioned him in another list. Still, I was shocked but at the same time felt like a badass since Marston went out in style. Even better when I killed the person who ordered him killed by using Jack.
Not sure if this should be in the list or not (maybe honorable mention), but when Dr. what's her face in Halo 4 got fucking disintegrated layer by layer in Halo 4... that was pretty fucking dark for a Halo game. Also when (spoiler) Mother died in MoH Warfighter. It was so abrupt.
Erase The World: Undertale. Kate Jumps: Life Is Strange Episode 2 Ghost's Death: Modern Warfare 2 Your Death: Halo Reach Saving Micheal: GTA V Master Chiefs Almost Helmet Reveal: Halo 4 (Campaign wasn't as good in 4, but when it went black I threw my controller) Vas in the van: Far Cry 3 This isn't the order I would've put it in, but those would've been cool to see.
***** I know you can, but if you go that route. And overall when she jumps the first time and you reverse the time was still pretty shocking in of itself
