Top 10 Things in the MCU That Make No Sense 

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Actually, Doc Oct mentioned in the film that he was in the process of choking Spider-Man in his grip before he was teleported to the MCU which was right before Toby’s Peter convinced him to become good again and destroy his machine so when he’s teleported back to his world he’ll probably destroy it without killing himself in the process which he did out of guilt for what he’s done.

I don't think that Octavius was extracted 'just before' he died , because in the movie when he came to mcu's universe it was shown that he was not in control of his arms , but in Raimi's second film's climax he had taken control of the arms and ended up being good , while he was still bad in the starting of NWH

Thanos giving Loki the stone makes sense cause it’s not until after Loki fails in a post credit scene it shows him putting on the gauntlet saying “fine I’ll do it myself”

5- Cap and Tony literally have a heart to heart about this and how he thought he was going to stop but ended up not being able to because he was metaphorically “addicted” to the lifestyle, and he didnt want to actually stop, it was explained out, how do you guys not remember that

I think the Edith glasses don't forget previous users he just added Beck as a user. As for Tony giving up multiple times, that's his weakness. He keeps trying to quit, but he always feels obligated to help. Like avengers endgame. He claimed to stay out, but pepper said she knew he wouldn't stand aside, It's not in him to.

When Norman and the other villians are sent back to their unvierse, I think they were sent to another timeline within the raimiverse. Also, it's obvious why Tony put his address up was because the entire movie is about him becoming mentally unstable and losing self control of his fears.

8:34 Correction - Doc Ock mentioned he had Spider-Man "by the throat" before he was extracted from his universe, not when he was bringing down his fusion reactor.

The part with dock ock can be easily explained by the fact that he has taken the ark reactor with himself. He will most likely use it somehow to stop his machine. Also he was not taken the moment he was crushed but rather when he held peter by his neck saying " I don't want to stop it!" right before he turned good again in SM2

What If...? Just what if Electro helps Andrew to save Gwen and change her fate too?

8:45 didnt Ock say he had Peter by the throat when he got swept away in the other UNiverse? So he hadnt decided to sacrifice himself for the core yet, so he was still villainous. If he got back to his timeline, that means he got back to having Peter at his mercy before he had a change of heart and sacrificed himself. Now because he did change, he may have done the same thing but maybe he was able to save himself and destroy the core. Electro was taking in all that data when he got swept away, he wasnt fighting Spiderman yet in their last fight was he? So he wouldve had time to go back to his time and stop himself too. The only way Osborne would get killed again back in his timeline would be that he purposely used his glider to try and kill Spiderman, but when he got back to his time, he didnt have the Goblin anymore so he wouldnt have commanded the glider so probably wouldnt have died.

Wasn’t it confirmed by a writer or something that when Spider-Man’s villains went back they ended up creating an alternate timeline where the villains don’t die?

The electricity and Thor thing makes some sense. Artificial electricity and natural electricity are different somehow. Godzilla is affected by enough voltage but draws power from nature when struck by lightning.

Goblin returns before he triggers his glider and likely goes to prison. Doc Ock seemingly returns w/ the arc reactor, meaning he now has “the power of the sun in the palm of his hand” and likely has more time to devise a solution. Electro returns as Max Dillon, meaning he no longer had control of the power grid; Harry’s still on route to kill Spider-Man, but he could warn Gwen to leave. Sandman and Lizard never die, but now they can live as humans.

Doesn't that mean their time has changed if the villains went back to their universe?

7: Yes, the ancient ones defense of her magical knowledge pretty sloppy and she died too easily too. Agreed.

Watchmojo: There have been no solo team-ups in the MCU. Winter Soldier and Ragnarok: Allow us to introduce ourselves.

To be fair, about that part with Thor being tasered, I see something going in his veins. Either these aliens have found a way to liquify electricity, or something else is going on there.

Regarding the cured Spider-Man villains, I think what happens is, them being cured gives them the knowledge to avoid their ends. Norman will find himself in the position Goblin was just before sending his glider to impale Spider-Man, so when Peter says "I had a father. His name was Ben Parker" Norman will just ease up and nod, before either trying to explain the situation or using one of the bombs Goblin unintentionally left him to cause a diversion and escape until Peter's willing to listen. Doc Oc, now with a fully sound minx and not having to also fight back his Oc arms' AI, could figure out how to pull down his machine without needing to be so close. Sandman... didn't die at all, so could just go on his way. As for Electro and Lizard... they'll just reappear in their world as normal people, so won't die. Simple.

I think Thor being downed by electricity only makes sense in that the electricity he creates is external while the electricity used to incapacitate him is being directly forced into his muscles and organs.

10.) Tony is known to act erratically when his friends are hurt or in danger. Like when Vision shot War Machine in Civil War. And Iron Man blasts Flacon without a second thought. 9.) It would defeat the purpose of solo films. And it is usually explained later on, like Thor and Hulk being in space. 8.) Yes Peter did give the glasses permission to listen to Mysterio. But never once did Peter or Mysterio tell the glasses to completely disregard Peters control over them 7.) The book is technically heavily guarded. Also the Ancient One could've known it would be stolen and that Strange would save the day. The same way Strange new letting thanos have the Time Stone would eventually lead to his demise. 6.) The implant sends shocks to your nervous system overriding it. That is completely different than thor manipulating lightening. 5.) Tony did try to retire as Iron Man. But he has to return as threats keep arriving. In infinity war he even states the nano tech is just in case a bad guy shows up. Part of his tragedy is that he is Iron Man. Even if he doesn't want to be. 4.) They will return and no longer attempt to kill Spiderman. Leading to them surviving as Spiderman from their universe will realize they are good now. 3.) The drones wouldn't have been able to kill the beast. Seeing as how they couldn't even kill the 1 guardian ship they were chasing . 2.) That happens when you have multiple writers and directors over 20+ movies 1.) Thanos gave Loki the mind stone because he knew he could easily get it back. He was busy conquering worlds and eventually decides he will have to do it himself after Loki fails

Lol Tony why would you give your home address. Lol that like having a sign on your back that Says come get me

I think that when the villains returned to their own universes, they aren’t exactly returned to the point where they got transported to the mcu universe, which is in the moment where they’re going to die. The fight happens in the statue of liberty, and they all got sent back in the statue of liberty too. What if when they returned back, they’re actually still in the statue of liberty, but the version of their own universes. It’s kind of like when we saw eddie and venom got transported from their universe to the mcu one while they are in a room. But when they got transported, they are actually in someone else’s house because they are not in their own universe. So when they returned, they didn’t actually returned to the point where they are about to die. They are still in the statue of liberty, but their own universes version of the statue of liberty.

For Thor case is because he is Electric type. Electric vs Electric is half damage. He still took the damage. Different case if he is a Ground type. _(Do you think he is Pokemon?)_

The Spider-Man: Homecoming thing confused me from the start, I remember starting the film, seeing "8 years later" and audibly going; "What!?". It was just some text on a screen, the kind of thing they could've easily changed in post-production or right before release, and somehow it still ended up in the theatrical cut. Still don't understand it.

Iron Man calling out the Mandarin, after his best friend was blown up, makes sense. Especially as surely everyone knows where Stark lives since there was a giant party there in IM2! I will admit, him not having every Iron Man suit out waiting to strike was stupid. Or at least a force field or EMP slapped on the roof.

Doc Oc was probably thinking of a way to get out of that situation. Osborn could have been pulled out when he had Peter practically beaten (before he threatened MJ). Electro could just stop absorbing. Everyone else is up in the air.

Stark's recklessness in the movie is explicitly explained by his extreme PTSD at the time. Hell, he was even in the mist of having a panic attack when he made his impulsive decision to challenge the mandarin.

Tony Stark's Glasses might be imprinted with Peter's DNA but you forgot one Major Plothole,Civil War's Sokolvai Accords when the Government blame the Avengers when it's their Fault to sent a Missile on New York and Hydra Tricking them,Hell It's Tony's Fault for Ultron,not the Avengers.

it was confirmed that the scepter was mind controlling Loki during the events of the Avengers

Ok first of green goblin didn't die because right before he gets stabbed he suit was filthy gray but when we see him show up his suit is the normal green and he has his glider so he was probably taken from the bridge fight also doc ock didn't die he still had the arc reactor so he would have wanted to study it further so he felt compelled to survive then he would have taken down the machine with peters help.

#10 remember that this was right after the explosion where Happy ended up in the hospital. He was mad

The thing that still confuses me with "No Way Home"? The timelines. When the villians are pulled to the MCU Universe, are they taken from the exact same universes we the audience saw in their own movies, or similar universes were the only difference was they got pulled into the MCU? Like is the Norman and Otto who appeared in No Way Home from the same universe, let alone the universe we saw from the Rami Trilogy since they died anyway? Cause with Tobey and Andrew's Spider-Men, they still experienced everything that happened in their movies. So I just wonder where the villians side stand exactly. And also would sending the cured villians back effectively change Tobey and Andrew's timeline, like would Norman and Otto say still be alive? Or despite it being magic and not science, where still going by "Endgame rules" where changing the past doesn't change the future? I'm sorry, I know I'm rambling it's just the movie nor did the director explain the rules exactly with this, so I'm just so confused 😅

After the events of The Avengers, Tony Stark is strongly suffering from PTSD. There's a clear progression of it beginning with his kidnapping in the middle east. He's a broken man who's trying to deal with immense pressure. His seemingly erratic behavior makes perfect sense in context.

Thor weakness to electricity can easely be explain with a simple real world nature fact: electric eel do electrocute themself when using their electricity. In the same logic it's not because Thor can summon electricity that he's immune to electricity. *plus there's differents types of electrical current so he might be immune to his own lightning (as we see him been struck by it without harm) but not all form of electricity.

I still don’t get how nobody on earth has mentioned a big baby celestial head coming out the planet earth in the mcu like hey. Also Didn’t Pepper Potts have powers at one point.

Everything about the MCU since the first Avengers film makes no sense.

"Tony Stark calls it quits not once but twice..." Again are you complaining about his persona - of not being able to quit - not making sense, or are you complaining that he is not true to his persona in the films? Do you even know the difference?

Doc Ock has that arc reactor in the palm of his hand, there’s gotta be something he could do to prevent what happened in Spider-man 2

For number 3, I think the issue with sending in the Sovereign drone ships is that they could accidentally hit the batteries while firing at the creature. That's probably the same reason the Guardians had to fight it on the ground instead of just blasting it in their ship.

Thank you! Valid points indeed.

Thanos gave the tesseract to Loki because the only individual who could beat him 1v1 was Odin. With Loki using it, Thanos was able to remain hidden as a threat Odin would have dealt with. Once Odin died, Thanos thought there was nobody that could stop him.

To 1. Yes, Iron Man is highly intelligent, but he is arrogant, careless and a daredevil too. That was the whole conflict between Captain America and him too. Tony wasn't a team player and took unnecessary risk because of his lack of self-preservation.

I'm confused on one thing. At the end of Civil War, Happy gets Peter out of Germany before he's arrested with the others while Tony goes looking for Steve. In Homecoming, he's in Limo with Peter and Happy when they get back to New York. How can that be? He should still be overseas at this point.

The team thing isn't hard to explain. Thor The Dark World mostly took place on Asgard. No other Avenger even knows how to get there. Even when he's on Earth, the fight didn't last that long. There was no time for Cap to get to London and yeah, Thor handled it. As for the Defenders, they aren't really part of the MCU. Even the versions we are going to get are not the same versions we saw on Netflix. Any vague mention of the Avengers in the Netflix shows was not approved or even acknowledged by Kevin Feige.

doc ock was taken before he was drowning, hence why he was still being controlled by his arms at the start of nwh.

I hope they didn’t die when they were cured and sent back in Spider-Man No way home

FECK !!! that is actually a good video watchmojo !! bravo !!

"Tony Stark recklessness" Seems like Watchmojo didint watched any Iron Man movie, specially the first one where it ends with him literally saying to the world he's Iron Man!

The thing is with the "No Way Home" predicament of sending home the villians, the only one who seems to be screwed is Otto. Norman and Max got the killed due to their powers, Norman because of his Goblin half, and Max with his overload. So ya, curing them seemed to have saved them. Conners and Flint don't die so that doesn't really change. But Otto is screwed cause of two reasons. Cause A: he was able to regain control of the limbs and still died. And more importantly B: he was taken from the moment when his machine was already on. So unless the sun hasn't expanded too much yet, he'll still have to sacrifice himself to drown it.

Okay when Dr. Octavious was brought to Tom Hollands universe he was under complete control by the Arms..meaning he was extracted earlier than when he was drowning. When he was drowning in the 1st movie he had regained control of the arms before he died, with having control before that happens he never becomes a villain in his timeline.

Apparently the villains are sent to alternate timelines where perhaps their futures will be different So the OG timelines for the Rami and Amazing universes stay intact with no changes

No solo team ups? Thor Ragnarok? Winter Soldier? Falcon AND the Winter Soldier. Homecoming? There lots of team ups dude

"why didn't she use her drones to kill the inter dimensional beast" Because *she couldn't.* None of them could. You are forgetting that none of the Guardians weapons worked - EXCEPT FOR - Gamora's God Sword. It's an weapon designed to kill Asgardians. At the end - she is just using the drones to try to retrieve stolen property - what choice does she have?

I never understood why they made Quill losing the love of his life a one off joke in Endgame

Caisillius didn't "waltz in and take it"he literally murdered a room full of wizards before getting to it

As for why they don't call each other for team ups, a lot of these crises occur in just a matter of hours. Other heroes could be unavailable or dealing with their own problems.

Actually even though they were supposed to be taken at the time before their death, they were actually taken at the moment they had the upperhand against spiderman which led to their deaths. They have a chance to save themselves when they get sent back

The questions we should be asking is that what happened to the mysterio team like do they forget who Peter is and why they did not attack Peter in NWH for revenge on what he did to beck. What was the point of venom coming to MCU only to leave? Does vulture forget who Peter is also?

Also, Peter didn’t erase himself from the glasses. He simply added Beck. Like another user on a computer or even your Netflix or Hulu. The bigger question to ask is how the hell didn’t the glasses recognize Beck? 😂

#1 - Thanos willingly gives the mind stone to Loki. ^ But this did make sense, and is directly related to why Thanos won. In fact it's the ..... *Best evil plan ever.* Thanos has the mind stone *before* Loki, before Avengers 1. His plan was to have Loki conquer earth (for him) - knowing that this would give him ultimately control of space, mind and time stones. Thanos could not come out in the open with Odin & the Asgardians ready to stop him. (The Avengers weren’t even a concern at the time, and Captain Marvel is no threat to his entire empire of conquered worlds. The Kree were afraid of Thanos - not Carol Danvers, per Guardians of the Galaxy) Also Thanos didn’t know where the soul stone was. No one knew Thanos plans other than Gamora and Nebula. Thanos planned his attack *only after* Loki caused the Ragnorok - removing Odin, the only hero certainly more powerful than Thanos. So when you see Loki give Thanos the space stone at the beginning of Infinity War - and then Thanos make a blitz for the other stones that’s the end result of a brilliant scheme. *That’s why Thanos won.* Name another SuperVillain in Cinema who actually pulls off such an ingenious plan. You can’t. (Good luck fixing - broken - Palpatine - Sauron, and worst of all, brain damaged DarkSeid, from their Universe/stories.) And yes of course a lot of this had to be retconned. Even Feige doesn’t plan that thoroughly in advance. But gosh that’s good writing, as Infinity War makes Avengers 1, make more sense.

The bigger question I have about the glasses is that if they can access all tech how could they not detect the drones around him especially if they’re stark technology or not recognize mysterio if he was a former stark employee

Number one should've been Peter Parker loving Iron Man and being team Iron Man in Civil War despite clearly having totally different views on how to be a hero and he would be very much against the Sokovia Accords if he knew what they were about.

It's not hard to find a celebrity address. The flub is not that he gave his address, just that he didn't hunker down and turn on his defenses, he definitely had time to.

I understand that the electrical zapping of Thor was played for comical purposes but that would be like Wolverine have an allergy to metal.

I was happy but angry with Spieder man 3 ending like what happened when the villains when they went home.

What would happen if these things made sense in the MCU? Are we going to see more things like these in the future?

One thing that makes ABSOLUTE NO SENSE about No Way Home is: The fact that the whole world forgot who Peter Parker is doesn't really change or interfer on what happened before, so millions of articles on the internet linkin and proving that Peter is Spider-Man are still out there. The people who got brainwashed would still turn on the tv and see Peter's face all over the news, so theorolically that Doctor Strange last spell had no use when it comes to keeping Peter unknown.

Totally amazing video of things that makes no sense in the mcu watch mojo, fantastic job.

Marvel movies are good and funny. We should avoid thinking of them logically. Otherwise it won’t be as fun.

10. Ironman have always been reckless and arrogant, building a suit of armor instead of complying and wait for help, calling off the most profitable part of his company, announcing himself as the man in the suit, going racing with minimal experience, etc. 9. Superhero have one thing in common, arrogance. Until things go out of control, they are mostly unwilling to call for help 8. AI tech as we know still not sophisticated enough to handle many task. As Peter relinquish control of the glasses, it's more likely the system simply added another user, while not deleting the previous one. Or Stark trust Peter so much that left a back door for Peter whenever he resumes command. 7. the ancient one can see the future till her death, knew that Strange is the best of the sorcerer supreme way back. Normally the book will be in the vicinity and line of sight of the one guarding the library, but likely the ancient one put the book precisely so they can find it leading to Strange with enough power to truly be the sorcerer supreme. (endless times facing off Dormammu thanks to time stone) 6. Take One Piece, logia allow people to become the element and paranormal give people abilities to create energy or particles and so on. Ability to create lightning does not mean immunity. Person capable of spiting doesn't mean injecting the spit back into the veins will not cause trouble. 5. Ironman only scale/ cut down his hero life, does not mean he quits. Start of AOU, they try to recover the scepter which was lost while Stark still an avenger. Then created Ultron so he can retire. Backfires leading him to feel guilty and in full support of the registration act. With all the dangers around him, he makes the minimal amount of suits to protect himself and his family. 4. Villains were transported more time before their death. With tech provided, they could come good and when they return, will not continue their wrong doing that lead to their death. 3. No tech to detect enemy? and unleashing the fleet with cause more collateral. If hire gun fail, no pay and no consequences, the drones will handle the rest. Better than dealing collateral damage and replacing drones. However, the betrayal of others could harm reputations for the planet. 2. So things that was simply retcon count as not making sense. Regular viewer would not notice, enthusiast will know of the retcon, hardcore fans will likely see it as different multiverse, which could come true in the future. 1. as power goes, having two stones will be the strongest in the known universe (at the time). Thanos will not care since he can have the scepter back whenever he want, and Loki at the time does not know of the stone. Having Loki to go secure the space stone will give him two stones, even if fail, which they did, he will still have knowledge of location of the scepter. Another reason would be Thanos wanted all 6 stones in one swop to minimalize chance of failure and the soul stone location would be the final one he learned of, and in turn began his operation.

#9 has been on my mind for years now. I've been baffled by how the Avengers go on separate adventures after the first movie but then suddenly reunite for Age of Ultron without any explanation as to why they decided to team up again

Captain Marvel having Nick Fury meeting her and the Skrulls totally contradicts The 1st Avengers when he clearly stated that The Asgardians were the first confirmed alien contact with them.

So for the Thor one and electricity, apparently you were making assumptions that aren't explicitly stated. It doesn't show sparks or anything of the kind to signify electricity, it could have been some kind of pulse signal that affects biological functions, same with the control disk he was captured by Valkryrie. Nothing outright says it electrocuted him and if you look at the disk on him in has effects showing as if it's effecting his bloodstream some way because of purple veins it shows. Could have been many different things that were not electricity based.

4:00 I really hope it would be revealed as a 'big Mysterio master mind plan' But I guess after No Way Home that's impossible - either new Mysterio will be created or he will never show up again 7:46 Yeah the villain status or just this whole Multiverse thing really messed up the story but I guess we can't complain because we saw 3 live action spiders on screen lol

Wouldn't it have been easier and more to the point if Dr. Strange made everyone either forget Mysterio or at least forget what he says when he reveals Spider-man's identity? Just remember he says Spider-man's real name is "Peter Gonzinya" and everyone would remember it was a bad joke.

633: When I first watched Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, I didn’t know her army was unexpected

EVERYTHING MAKES SENESE

I have an answer for number 4 - Doctor Octopus kept the arc reactor to stabilize his fusion reactor.

Everybody ALREADY KNEW where Tony Star lived! He's a superhero/billionaire!

First lmao

The moment doc ock describes being in right before he showed up in their universe was when he’s attacking Peter before making the sacrifice, above ground lol now we don’t know when Norman went through but hopefully it was before the glider got going

Took me a while to consider this: Banner only seems to Hulk out in the movies he’s in. I mean, there’s barely a mention of him turning into the Hulk outside of his actual screen time, except for the time he spent stuck as the Hulk on Sakaar. Maybe there’s a line I missed, but in movies where he’s not featured, other characters don’t reference a Hulk rampage happening or happened somewhere else. Maybe if Bruce really wants to not transform, he should stay away from his friends who keep leading him into stressful situations?

For no. 2, it was 6 years later, not 8 years later. Russo is right, Feige just doesn’t want to admit it.

Electrocute means killed by electricity. Thor was shocked but never electrocuted.

On #10 another reason was because he wasn't thinking clearly because of the PTSD he was suffering after what happened in The Avnegers.

Tony was not thinking straight, his best friend was put in the icu, of course he’s gonna say something stupid

Really, every single one of these make perfect sense.

*Tony keeps coming back because he's made new innovations to his suit. This is because he learns from his mistakes!*

Tony did not stop building suits because he could not rest. From that moment he was in space, since the vision Wanda showed him He just can not rest the voice in his head that tells him that there is a great danger on the way and that is why he builds more and more suits he builds a special suit for fighting in Hulk because he is also a threat That's why after he finally defeated Thanos and died ..... Pepper told him "you can rest now"

It is funny you mention team-ups since that is exactly what the MCU right now lol

Him continuing too make suits was his arc . He couldn’t stop bc he knew there was a bigger threat , it’s like the whole Spider-Man slogan with great power comes great responsibility. It’s why when he was dying Pepper told him it’s okay you can rest now. Not a plot hole

He got that wrong. Doc Ock was grabbed before that and returned with a different outcome.

Most of the entries on this list can be explained if the people at watch mojo actually put a little thought into their work... -Tony gives his address to the mandarin because he has a huge ego so of course he’s going to invite a challenge -Tony intended the glasses to be used by Peter, he probably programmed something where the glasses always listen to Peter (even when he transfers access to someone else) because the glasses were always meant for him -Thor gets stunned by electricity shocks because he hasn’t gotten the full grasp of his thunder powers yet, we see this earlier when he’s first presented to the grand master and all he can do is make “sparkles” -Tony is a workaholic and is addicted to being a superhero and saving people/ the world, he can’t stop being iron man no matter how much he wants to retire. Thats literally his whole character arc in Endgame... -In no way home they all just assume that they’ll go back to moments before they die. But it’s just an assumption, how could any of them possibly know exactly how the multiverse works at this point. Like maybe because they stayed in the MCU universe for a few days it changes the timeline of when they’ll go back -the sovereign use the guardians because yes they think they’re too good to be fighting a space alien and don’t want to risk their own people, but they also don’t want to waste resources (mainly remote controlled ships) when they can just hire the guardians -Thanos gives (more like borrow) the Infinity stone to Loki because why not let one his minions take out Earth for him. Besides, he’s thanos, he can take the stone back from Loki whenever he wants

9:16 "Their called Harbulary batteries."

632: The fate of the multiverse villains is awesome in No Way Home although I don’t know what to image in my head as they go back

Adding to spideys glasses. Wouldn’t they have detected something was off about Quentin

0:45 Let's stop right here. Do people not know where Tony Starks lives already in the MCU? I mean, he's a public figure.

Pretty sure octavius was returned before that moment, as with the others (not to mention Flint and Connors didn't die in their respective movies, the former just turned to sand and left while the latter lost his lizardness). As for the scepter, it's possible he didn't know the mind stone was in it(afaik it's creator is unknown).

Goblin's reaction from spiderman man before dying makes more sense now