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1. Viserys didn’t gift the dragon sculpture to Alicent. She had it repaired for him and gifted it back to him in season 1. 2. Aemond waited because Aegon had shown up and most likely he wanted to see what happened to him.
Also aegon smashed the carafe which I believe was dragon snapped. So two items shaped like dragons destroyed prior to the battle, foreshadowing what’s about to happen
I thought maybe Aemond was waiting to engage in battle because Aegon would get the enemy dragon tired and weak. More of a military view.. I don’t know…
@@mustyprinceunique3829 Yes he did. Aemond saw Aegonc+ Sunfyre flying over the trees after the horn sounded and that's why he calmed Vhagar from taking off in response to the horn.
Was about to say this here, like it's almost people forgot the previous episode how Aemon was getting roasted by his brother, to him it was revenge well deserved, although I still have wanna see Aemon killed off for Luke and his arrogance. @@l.c.7955
The falling and shattering of the dragon by Alicent foreshadows Aegon's dragon falling from the sky, and perhaps Aegon himself falling and shattering...
Aemond told Vhagar to wait because he wanted his brother to enter battle and possibly die from it. He tried to help push this along with a well-placed “dracarys”, then seeing this didn’t work either, decided to finish him off himself before being foiled by Cole. Naughty little brother, lol!
Another curious thing noticed that might be a hint: the miniature dragon that Alicent drops on the floor and breaks, shatters in the exact spot of the injury that Sunfyre suffers in battle!
I just noticed the somewhat flippant facial expression on Aemond when Cole asks him where Aegon is while he's holding the dagger. If you watch his eye, you can see a pretty great borderline eye roll, like, "Ah, my idiot brother is right there." as he gestures with the knife. Pretty excellent acting on Ewan's end.
The major thing I missed this episode was the reason why the Blacks decided to send only 1 dragon when they knew Vhagar is on the other side and could show up at any moment. Sending 4 dragons would’ve completely changed the outcome and they could’ve easily ganged up on Vhagar and killed both her and Aemond, the strongest weapon the Greens have.
I agree with this, even 1 more dragon would've done more. But tbh, If Rhaenys went with Daemon to go kill Vhagar that one day. I don't think Vhagar would've existed to be a threat. since Daemon and Rhaenys and their dragons have a lot of skin in the battlefield. I know it's not a war for her to start.. but all of this would've probably been avoided if she just smoked them that day Aegon was crowned. now she still had to smoke him but in the process lost her life. I love Rhaenys to death.. but so many hesitation will be the downfall of Rhaenyra's house.
The plan was an ambush all along. Them thinking the Greens will bring their biggest threat to a small keep like Rooks Rest was the last thing they would expect.
it was a well planned trap executed by Criston Cole and Aemond who learnt that Daemon was at Harrenhal which meant that the Blacks only had Rhaenyra with Syrax and Rhaenys with Meleys as their battle experienced dragons to send over to defend Rook's Rest. Rhaenys had 2 good opportunities to kill Aemond and effectively Vhagar earlier in the show - at Aegon's coronation but risk being labelled a kinslayer and when Daemon invited her to fly together to take down Vhagar which she refused due to Rhaenyra's orders of restraint.
They’re not going to risk all the dragons against vhagar Aemond and vhagar are the antagonist the show needs . Their death (which will be satisfying) will come later in the season I’m sure
I love how WatchMojo somehow managed to watch the same episode as us, points out details that are on the nose and not important, and misses everything around it that is. Truly, I am impressed by how much they clearly missed and weren't paying attention. 👏👏👏 You know nothing WatchMojo.
1) One thing of note is how both Aemond and Aegon used Dracarys to command their dragons to attack while Rhaenys used other commands. 2) Another thing of note is how Vhagar was formerly Rhaenys' daughter's dragon that ended up killing her. 3) Also Vhagar, despite her massive size, used the same sneak attack on Meleys as she did against Lucerys and Arrax. In the books, it is mentioned that Meleys and Rhaenys, being experienced together in battle, could have proven a match for Vhagar and Aemond in single combat but the battle against Aegon and Sunfyre had already taken a toll on Meleys.
I think Aemond picking up the dagger was meant to be symbolism, mirroring Rhaenyra’s talk with her so son about Aegon’s prophecy. She was passing on the legacy to her son. On the other side, Aegon had the dagger but was completely unaware of the prophecy written on it. With Aegon being incapacitated, Aemond took the dagger, also unaware of the true responsibility of the crown.
I really like Aegon's characterization. He's kind of a screw up, and a pawn in the game but I think he means well and wants to do great things. It would've been easy to make him Joffery 2.0, but they didn't go that route. I feel bad for him, as the only one who seems to care about him AT ALL is the worst person on the show, Cole. TGC is doing an excellent job. And Aegon's arc going forward has the potential to be fascinating. Maybe even Emmy-worthy. Can't wait to see what's next with him.
Everyone forgot what happened in season one! He bullied his little brother and literally had a child fighting ring and graped someone, Aegon is an awful person!
Ugh. I'm not arguing that the fictional character of Aegon is a good person. This is about TGC's (the actor) standout portrayal of the character. This is a fictional story. No serving girls were actually r aped, no children were actually harmed. This is about the actor's portrayal of an arguably throw-away character elevating it to a fascinating performance. Please remove the stick from your collective butts.
@@McCrapweasel Nobody is arguing with you about the actors performance but to say Aegon is "kind of a screw up" and that "he means well" and you feel bad for Aegon is insane to say considering what kind of person the fictional character is.
Princess Rhaenys went knowing full well she was not coming back. It broke my heart to see her & Meleys die but she did it on her terms 🤷🏻♀️ But what about Alicent and her abortion tho! Did not see that coming 😂
I wonder if Alicent will feel any guilt about what happened to Aegon. She was extra harsh with him in their last conversation, pretty much telling him he was worthless. What she said was true, but she could have said it in a bit more tactful way. He was already feeling pretty small from earlier events that day in the council, and she just rubbed more salt in the wound. I think their convo was what finally pushed him over the edge to do something really reckless and stupid in trying to prove he had some worth and deserved the crown.
Yes I think she will especially because of the foreshadowing in the previous episode when she goes to see her daughter Helaena and Helaena tells her that she forgives her. I thought it was due to Criston Cole shagging Alicent when he should have been guarding the young prince Jaehaerys who was killed by Blood and Cheese. But now I think Helena telling Alicent she forgives her is in reference to Aegon flying off (drunk and completely unprepared ) to the battle at Rooks Rest because Alicent basically told him he was useless and a weak King who hasn’t done anything to deserve the crown. Helaena has prophesied many things from the dreams she has so I think she foresaw all of this and that Aegon and Sunfyre would fall in battle and be gravely wounded.
You got the whole Aemond waiting scene wrong. The whole point was, he was potentially letting his brother fly off to his death. Had Aegon not flown over, he was fully prepared to attack.
It's WatchMojo, they're notorious for getting information wrong and misconstrued. I actually come back from time to time just to see how they screw up simplistic detailed information.
Some may have missed The Muppets or Seasem Street references. But in the book Theres Grover Tully, whose heir is Elmo Tully, who has two sons, Kermit and Oscar Tully. I can't remember what the called Grovers heir in the show. All four are names of Muppets done by Jim Henson.
They seem to have merged the characters of Elmo, Kermit and Oscar. In the book Grover Tully is the grandfather of Elmo. Elmo is the heir to Riverrun and has two sons, Kermit and Oscar. Elmo Tully is a relatively prominent side player in the Dance, and Kermit Tully also becomes relevant later on. Book Oscar actually only has a very minor role. I imagine the showrunners didn't feel that people would be able to take characters called Elmo and Kermit seriously enough, so Grover's grandson is called Oscar and the other two characters seem to have been written out (show Oscar isn't old enough to have adult sons)
When aegon died and his dragon died. Raynys really went back to battle vhegar. That was insane. Like she throw herself at death lol. Yet last season she had a clear shot to kill everyone she didnt
What I've grown to love so much about Daemon is he sort of represents Targaryen madness. How does the saying go? When a Targaryen is born, the gods flip a coin.
they cut down the trees earlier in episode only to prepare for Vhagar hiding before battle, This was done with communication bw aemond and cole earlier 😅
Things we missed was the fact that Vhagar and Meleys used to fly together with Baelon and Alyssa Targaryen for a time, Alyssa rode Meleys just weeks after birth with both her sons Viserys and Daemon Dragons who once flew together claimed by different sides when at war :(
I don't think Aemond telling Vhagar to wait had anything to do with his impeccable timing. I believe he actually wanted his brother to engage first so that others may see how poor of a warrior he was. He wanted to undermine his brother
There were a few issues with this video.. the biggest being Aemond keeping his dragon from attacking when it was wanting too.. no it was absolutely time to attack but he saw his brother show up and let him possibly get hurt or die first, then you never mentioned he literally tried to kill him when he did attack!! Aegon saw it coming and screamed before the fire hit him.. Cole seemed to even notice this and when he saw Aemond walking by the crashed dragon and king with his sword out he kinda stopped him although it’s ambiguous as to what Aemond was doing..
The beauty of the show like this is full of if and only if incident. One more thing to address the size of dragons we saw the size of the three and clearly saw the difference between vhagar and others and why vhagar is tough if just loose your attention it will cut your throat immediately
Just like when I thought back to Arya in the beginning when I looked at Rhaenyra. The moment I saw an older Aemond and I saw his uncle immediately. I just can't believe that growth spurt he hit! His "Joffrey" of a brother meanwhile looks to have actually shrunk. Metaphor??🤔🤔
Something else you may have not noticed is the actress playing Alys Rivers was the Wolf girl from Netflix's GLOW. Looked super familiar and I finally placed it
Aemond is playing the game of thrones ladies and gentlemen 😭😂 I think the exact opposite of what y'all said about Aemond, I think it was quite an impulsive decision to let Aegon get hurt like that. Now he's the only dragon rider for the greens minus daeron, who's dragon I assume is as small as moondancer. I know that in the books, Jace gathers the dragon seeds to claim dragons and they eventually betray them, but with how the show is changing things I assume that Ulf and Hugh hammer will be sent as double agents to collect a few dragons for team green. And vermithor is probably the mightiest aside from Vhagar.
1:24 "We're not expecting him to be a just ruler like his father though." Uh, Aegon II is about 72% charcoal bricquette, the only thing he'd rule is a cookout. And not in a fun way.
I've just rewatched the final scenes and pretty sure that Aemond was definitely trying to kill his bro. Right after he'd commanded Vhagar to attack with fire the Sunfyre fell down into the woods.
My personal top ten of things I missed in house of the dragon; 1. Any semblance of good storytelling 2. Pacing 3. Genuine tension 4. Thoughtful character development 5. Rich world building 6. Compelling dialogue 7. Exciting action 8. Milk of the poppy 9. Emilia Clarke 10. Kittens.
I think when Alice says that the last mhaester ran away in the night, she is talking about when the conquerer attacked Harrenhall. And that she's been there ever since
MEH. Aemond didn’t “calm his overzealous dragon,” he was preparing to take flight after hearing the horns and changed his mind when he saw Aegon flying above them into the fray. Vhagar became uncontrollable when Arrax doused her with fire, which sent her into a rage. This doesn’t mean grandma has given the reins over to him completely.
Hard disagree on the one about Aemond controlling Vaghar. The scene with Luke from season 1 is supposed to be our first taste of what dragons are like in combat: barely controllable. In that episode, Luke's dragon atracks her with fire (against Luke's command), and Vaghar reaponds as most wild animals would, regardless of what the humans want. In this episode Vaghar hadn't been antagonized, she was calm, so of course she would listen to him.
Him not being able to control the dragon has nothing to do with Aemond , it is more proof that people have no power over dragons, it's just an illusion of power as Viserys once said. Aemond didn't lose his temper, he thought he was just playing around, and the dragon did what it wanted, if anything his growth isn't with his character but his dragon communication skills i guess. Also he didn't attack because he saw his brother the king, not the character thing you guys are mentioning.
rewatching GOT right now, and i'm not sure if it's because i'm watching HOTD now knowing everything that happens later, but it feels like HOTD is immediately a better and more compelling show.
Great episode and an amazing dragon fight. However, one thing kind of bothered me. It's when Corlys relays to Ser Steffon that his father, Lord Gunthor Darklyn, was beheaded by Cole because he refused to bend a knee. Rhaenyra and the others' reaction to Lord Darklyn's death was kind of cold. She and everyone else at the council was just like "bummer" and then moved on to other business. Rhaenyra could have at least told Steffon that she was sorry for his loss and commended his father for his loyalty and bravery. He remained loyal to her to the end, giving his life. He could've easily done like most of the others and bowed down to Cole, who would've spared his life. I understand that Rhaenyra was under a lot of pressure and was stressed out, but her reaction to Lord Darklyn’s death seemed really uncharacteristic of her and a bit callous. I mean that was the man’s father who gave his life out of his loyalty to Rhaenyra.
Aegon "the Conqueror"'s crown is described by both GRRM & TWOIAF as *"A circlet of Valyrian steel, set with big square-cut rubies"* the prop piece seem to be anything but, and looks too cheap
i still don't fully understand why Rhaenys would come back to fought Aemond. She could've just back to Dragonstone and regroup for all out attack on Vhagar. With no Aegon and Sunfyre, Black would've win easily if all 4 dragon go out against one. Even if it's Vhagar.
I guess the time Alicient drop the Dragon fiigure signifies the fate of Aegon's Dragon whose wings broke during their clash . And was not able to fly again
WatchMojo missed the attention to details. Remember the dragon figurine that has already broken wing... What happened also to sunfyre had a broken wing on the left too.
Alicent reading through history tryting to confirm that "the song of ice and fire" is actually a real story or more likely trying to (not) confirm it exists as to convince herself what Rhaenyra said was a lie.
Queen rheanyra's hesitation to the war costed them lose of princess rhaenys n melys Queen rheanyra should have always considered prince deamon's advices
"If you weren't paying attention" you mean people who have been staring into their phones the whole time and missed the *very obvious* "missed things". You clearly didn't pay attention either.
The lannister had the Targaryen killed for playing with his marble. I don't think Aemond got control of vagar, just a calm dragon is more willing to listen
In the first scene the sculpture of the dragon breaks at the wing (and that is the injurie that Meleys inflicts on Sunfyre). Before going to batle Aegon throws away a vase with a dragon drawing that shatters on the floor (and tha's what happens to Aegon).
Aemond points the location of his brother to Cole with the blade end of the dagger, symbolically that means he attacked his brother willingly, letting him face Rhaenys alone and burning him when he got the chance.
When Aemond told Vhagar to wait and she let out that huge sigh, did that seem like a sigh of relief for not having to fight or a sigh of frustration for having to wait to fight?
Thank you for sharing. I kept going back and forth in my mind about it. I thought well she’s an old lady maybe she’s burnt out on battles and wants to chill but then again she can sense everything going on and Aemond’s emotions so she probably was just as frustrated as he was.
