Very good and informative video. What you mentioned about the Waw rear wheel being mounted to a fork which means you can install any number of after market hub motors is a very important point for those who may have that in mind ☝️👍
Your list is very interesting. Well, it's your opinion. If I were to make such a list, it would be about how easy it is to get on or off a velomobile and how easy it is to maintain. I personally can't do much with maintenance holes. That's why I chose the WAW, which I haven't regretted yet. The WAW is not the most beautiful, but for daily use and long distances it is the most optimal VM for me. The most beautiful VM for my taste would be the Mulsanne, which unfortunately is only an experimental model. From the point of view of getting in, the Milan or Orca would be the best. Furthermore, velomobiles with a large turning circle are out of the question for me in daily use. Enclosed front wheels are certainly good for racing, but bad if you have a flat tire or otherwise need to the wheels. If you have to put a velomobile on its side just to pump up air, I don't find that fun.
Awesome list! Agree on the Snoek. Hope they make a Snoek XL model. (I would buy it) You are a great velomobile ambassador, Saukki!!! This is one of my favorite channels!!
Hello Saukki, great video as always. There is a new Version of the EVO coming next year that probably will beat the efficiency of the snoek due to even better aerodynamics. The new version is lighter AND stronger because its not hand-laminated Carbon but actually pressed and backed in an autoclave. Looks really promising and slick. Hopefully Axel Knaus, the new owner of the Evo design, will have the prototypes ready for testing in the next few months.
I bought an Alleweder 6 this year. I think even though it is slow, heavy and old compared to the other models, it is a very interesting pragmatic everyday velomobile for the city. You should get it with electric assist though. I like how its body is more open and a soft cover is attached with snap buttons for wintery and other bad weather conditions. The soft cover can be rolled to only take up little space. This allows for more air to get in in summer. Luggage space is also great and you can mount a trailer hitch. Mine has a Weber hitch so I can use a large cargo trailer.
Excellent list. Obvious of course. I agree. Very good montage of the film. Quit a challenge on such a subject. However, there are more velomobiles on the market that are less popular in Europe but outside of it. Also in production. Still, I don't think your comments about the Cab-bike are justified. Even negative. In many countries speed is much less important. Comfort and convenience. Go shopping or to the office in your normal clothes without arriving sweaty. Pedal assist makes the extra weight unimportant. The spacious entry and plenty of storage space is certainly a plus for the Cab-bike.
I absolutely agree about the CabBikeHawk! I opted for the cab bike last year, now riding it for 3000km without any problems on my daily commute. The bike has been throughout reliable so far, is comfortable enough even for an almost 2m tall guy + luggage space, and is unbelivably versatile being able to change from open cabriolet to almost completely enclosed 'submarine' style. It comes with complete lighting system, is easy to maintain and has a very narrow turning circle... what more could I ask for... well higher speed, less weight, more fancy carbonfiber... nothing of which would help me with a better commute. So absolutey worth a closer look... but hey, you took it on the list at least 😃👍
Thanks great job. Probably the best info video that I have seen. I am fascinated by velomobiles so I really appreciate your efforts . Is about aerodynamics or do people just like strange looking vehicles. I want this concept to become very popular so I look forward to more accessible and practical designs.
It is about efficiency: going as fast/far as possible, using only human power. That means it has to be light and aerodynamic, with an efficient drivetrain.
Merry Christmas Saukki for you and your family. My three favourites velomobiles? - Le Mans - Mulsanne - Leiba classic, the funniest one with it's egg shape.
Nice overview. Although a remark about the Milan. The SL and GT are very different type of velomobiles. They only look the same, but ride very different. And off course my top 10 would look different. Milan GT would be number 1 for me :-D.
Well SAUKKI , I think your chanal is absolutely brilliant wish you a very happy Christmas and a very happy New year please stay safe and well,from David ps your brilliant
Interesting video, but 'best' depends on your needs of course, and the Snoek is unfortunately too small for me, maybe wait for a SnoekXL to replace my WAW ;-)
A larger version of the Snoek would probably lose most of its advantage over the other racing velomobiles. It would be just another one in the Milan/DF/Alpha7-and-other-Creations-by Daniel-class. And mostly motivate Daniel to make even faster velomobiles...
The Flevo Alleweder is not produced any more. German company Akkurad still produce the fibreglass version, Alleweder 6. I own one and it is easier to get into than, e.g., DF. However you still need to be somewhat flexible. If you can stand on one leg and can get the other one up to about a 90-degree angle, you can get into and out of the velomobile. Since it’s made out of fibreglass and the bottom is partly made of aluminium, you can grab nearly everywhere without the fear of breaking anything. I would say, from all velomobiles you can currently buy, the Alleweder 6 is the easiest to get in and out.
Wow! That list has grown tremendously. I bought my quest in 2004 and the next one in 2013 and I recently sold it because I am moving to Finland next year! Also, my eyesight is not good enough for a fast bike. But hei! A really nice list of bikes and by gosh have they improved (a lot!). Thanks for the video. PS. Any velomobile shops in Rovaniemi that you know of (that is where I want to move (God permitting) .... P.S2. Which of these bikes are available with fast electric support? PS3 I wonder whether batteries in Finland in winter last short due to the extreme weather (-30C or lower)?
if only velomobiles are common in the Philippines, roads could be really interesting. I really wish I could build my own velomobile too, if only I have tools and materials for it.
L'Alpha 9 méritait la première place si son prix n'avais pas été aussi stratosphérique!! Tans pis pour lui et bravo au Snoek qui a su garder la tête froide en terme de tarification...
Good compilation. I'm trying to get on the wait list for the M9 through the US dealer. I considered the Snoek but I'm pretty sure I won't fit in it. I'm 173 cm tall but I have wide shoulders. I couldn't fit into a DF and went with a DFXL. I'm told by Jen of Velomobile World and others the M9 should fit me.
Title should probably be edited to : Top 10 Most Coveted Velomobiles (That You Will Probably Never Own) in 2022 Your English Speaking has Improved over the years. Suggest Close Caption in your prospective Language for those unable to follow Saukki's speech pattern and words per minute. I for one think you speak at a very acceptable speed... Nowhere near as fast as they speak Englsh from where I'm currently located.
hi Saukki, great video, but till now I could not understand the fuzz about the Alfa9 and eventually the M9 over other models. It looks very big to me, without obvious reasons. ...
Most interesting, but one the least number of people can fit in. Although I would fit in it length-wise, my shoulders are just too wide. That's why I ordered an M9.
I think like you, the Snoek is the most interesting Velomobile, all comments say thath is very efficient, 50 Kmh/h at 130-140w more o less..., A review in this channel will be great!!!
My guess is that the numbers are a bit too optimistic in real life. My experience is that the condition of the road surface affects the speed more than any other thing. And to achieve that kind of efficiency, you might need a table-smooth path
the snoek is interesting but too small to be considered, let alone win. velos should fit a person about half an inch over 6' , or not be made. i just cant see the point in it at all. :)
Disagree. There is a sufficient amount of velomobiles, notably fast ones, for the larger people, but a severe lack of vehicles for small persons, even me with my 172 cm. Those smaller people can more or less only use the Milan SL with special adaption or - if they happen to find one - old GoOne 3, Evolution and those of the Evo-Rs that are adaptable to driver size - and adpat them to their needs. Which means put a lot of effort into these old bikes. Actually the snoek has not been intended for the market but only for Eva and put in series production only of many requests.
Usually i like Your videos. But her a few remarks: You completely missed the Leiba velomobiles (another company in Germany). Fair pricing, no race bikes buut interesting for every day commute. And You seem to have overlooked that GoOne- Evo-R will be available in the beginning of next year again. Beautiful, lightweight, fast, expensive and btw Daniel Fenn's 1st creation. You might also have missed that the Alleweder 6 is still made, and like the Leiba these are machines for everyday commute with fair prices. Regarding the quality of the Pima vehicle there is an informative thread of an owner in the German forum.
...regarding the quality of the PIMA bike there is a meanwhile out of date thread on that forum... because meanwhile PIMA has done a lot to improve theire bikes and service. That one thread should not been referred to as the only reference available on the net again and again...
@@DaveVelo1 but unfortunatly production has stopped and we all are urgently waitig for its successor (which had been promised to January/Feburary) How do You deal with the fogging wind screen? And how with the dazzling of the lamps due to reflections in the windscreen? In my GoOn 3 the latter is a major problem, and the fogging only occasioanlly. .
Little bit desappointed. Which criterias, or which measurments have been used to sort those velomobiles? You don't compare anything between them: weight, aerodynamic (Cx, Scx), size, price, pros and cons of each model, etc. It's too much subjective....and sounds like a public hope to receive next a payless Snoek !
Which ones of the velomobiles have more ground clearance then the others? How is the ground clearance and luggage capacity of the Alpha 7 and the DF ? How are they when ridden in bad weather e.g. Rain? Are they rain tight, so no water going inside? Those are the two that interest me most. Thanks in advance for the info.
Hi! I'd say both A7 and DF has pretty similar ground clearance. The lowest part at the bottom are the foot humps, which might take contact to speed pumbs etc. Some people use some protective thing attached to the foot humps like strip of thin metal etc. I have Milan SL which has even smaller ground clearance but I can ride my normal routes without any problems. (There is one speed pumb where the foot humps touches the ground, but I just have to avoid that one.) Luggage capacity of A7 and DF is pretty decent, not great, but ok. I ride Quattrovelo, so in my opinion other velomobiles have tiny luggage spaces compared to Quattro 😄 Most velomobiles are pretty rain tight, including A7 and DF. Especially if you get the racing hood. Then you can close the visor and almost no rain water will get in. But the visibility might be very bad when it's raining, so you might want to open the visor little bit so that you can see where you are going. In that case there will be some rain water goming towards your face and upper body. Some kind of widshield wiper might solve that problem, but there are not many solutions available for that.
why do some have 3 wheels and others 2? i assume the one with 2 wheels are faster since they have less friction? are they not as practical? do you have a video about them?
The ones with 2 wheels are called streamliners. Those are mainly used for speed record attempts. But I’ve seen someone using one as a daily driver. Thoug that one was more practical and usable than the record breaking speed machines, which don’t have even windows. Most velomobiles have 3 wheels, but there are few 4 wheel models available.
Saukki, I'm sorry but it's quite often difficult to hear what you say. You speak fast. But in this video even faster. Speak slower or use text. It will help a lot. Thank you for your great informative videos.
You are a little bit to early in the year 2022. There is a new star born. The Bülk MK1. Seems it is the "neue heiße Scheiß". Look at the new record of Holger Seidel "Deutschland Süd-Nord".
given the prices and availability, it would be near impossible to get a velomobile in my country in asia (which makes sense why I haven't seen a single one yet while researching), I wonder when will china get into making velomobiles? We already seen a handful of chinese bike products. It could be only a matter of time. or maybe the demand is just too low for them to bother.
An "interesting velomobile" especially includes ones that bring new people to the velo world, which means cheap, easy to get in, and robust. So I would include the Trisled Rotovelo. Because poly is heavy, you can also get them in carbon fibre but that adds to the price tag. At a starting price of around AU$6500 they're more likely to attract people who aren't fanatics. To be honest, when I tell the average non cyclist I paid AU$5300 for my Greenspeed Magnum big wheel (accessorised), half look at me like I'm insane or something! There was a time 5 years ago I would have never considered paying over$1000 for a brand name mountain bike- that was top end to me. Maybe you could do a research based comparison on entry level affordable velomobiles, as your channel is research for many of us hopefuls who dont have one and can't afford 7k euro plus models.
What? Why would it be weird not to have suspension on the back of a WAW? I have many friends who drive daily with WAW without rear suspension. A close friend of mine has used his WAW without suspension during many long trips we have made together. The advantage without suspension is that the power goes straight into the wheel without losing power that is consumed when the rear wheel swings. You are welcome to test a WAW with no suspension and you'll get surprised. You should remedy this comment in your video 🙈 Edit: Not many fast road bikes have rear wheel suspension because they would be slower. And I guess that velomobiles without rear fork demand suspension or they would break.
@@TheVelomobileChannel Maybe time to make a video "Rear suspension" and compare velomobiles with road bikes suspension/no suspension and the losses in power contra comfort. You might even be able to interview someone with a WAW, for example my friend Mattias who is commuting daily without suspension.
@@velopromobiel Why would it be a difference? Are there any tests made about it? Can you provide links? Common bikes have no suspension and no one thinks it is a problem.
Great video. But I disagree with your rating. My opinion is the most practical is the best. And velomobile for dwarfs should not even be compared with real machines :) I am 188 cm in height
