I rarely take the time to comment on videos, but this one deserves it. Great video, tons of useful info!! I even got a chuckle or two along the way. Thanks!
These videos are great and the stuff your pointing out is so true. I remember 5 years ago when I had the great thought I’m going to reload. I went out spent about 700 dollars on a press and some other stuff that I now realize I didn’t need. Then started to watch RU-vid videos created by the famous suspects we all know and love. Welp 5 years later and A LOT of videos later I’m finally reloading 9mm 223/556 and 308 with confidence. I’m also casting & powder coating a lot of my own projectiles. It was a long and interesting journey that to be honest I personally would do all over again. However I will say this you have to really enjoy shooting to get into reloading and casting. It’s definitely not for everyone but I like it so I’m glad it wasn’t a waste of time for me
That's awesome, thanks for the comments! You've probably been loading longer than I have. I've gotten into a lot of different hobbies before, but this one is on a whole other level of fun and addicting🤣
Case prep center is on my list, especially one I can trim on. I'm sick of handling the brass once for each step of prep. I want to size it and get everything else done in one swoop. Thanks for watching 🇺🇸👍👊
@@DummyRound I hear that. I have the WFT trimmer in a drill right next to the prep center so after swaging and sizing they get a quick trim, chamfer, debur then back in the tumbler to remove the case lube. I suppose next time I can do the swaging after sizing
It's got every tool you actually need, and when I eventually get a case prep center, I can use all of those attachments on it and not have to get anything else but the Lee trimmer adapter. 👍🇺🇸👊
@@DummyRound you’re going to love a case prep center, but it doesn’t speed it up like I was expecting. But, it’s all right there. When you’re done, the case is ready to load.
Literally just started loading. Just started priming some 223 and 5.56 I converted to 300blk. Just came across this issue about an hour ago. What I came up with in the heat of the moment, was to just run my de-burring tool in the pocket. Worked like a charm.
I used to do that. I now swage to make sure the walls of the primer pocket are straight. I have found that crimped brass primer pockets are not perfectly straight from top to bottom.
Swagging is better for most folks. Lots of options. Seen several folks new to reloading go overboard and make brass that would not hold a primer. Between time and brass an expensive lesson. Just really love the deburrer? Get a primer pocket go/no go gage. They also show primer pocket depth at the same time.
@glockguy4127 already have go/nogo sets. It is still far fast and easier for me to cut the crimps out. Never had an issue with over cutting the pocket. Unlike swagging.
I definitely missed a bunch, but these are some of the more popular ones I seem to hear about or get suggested more often than not. Which method do you prefer using? Thanks 👊👍🇺🇸
@@DummyRound I have a Hornady case prep duo . I ream them with the chamfer tool . It only takes about a second per case . It is the fastest way I've found to do it .
I used to have the Lyman multi tool for removing the crimps. But after getting my Lyman brass prep center, that's my primary method. I also have the RCBS swaging tool, but haven't used it as much as the prep center.
I bought the Dillion years ago, never looked back, not fast, but steady and does a very good job, if your in a hurry and need to do it fast, Stop right there and sell your Handloading Equipment, being in a hurry Handloading will get you in trouble eventually!
Great info - I have been using the RCBS military crimp remover for years! Have tried swaging my opinion is it does swage the crimp but I feel the primer pocket is still to tight. If you check it with a go no go gauge, most of the time the go gauge will not go in.
Thanks, Andy! When I finally get a prep center I'll probably use that little device as well. I haven't used the primer pocket gauges yet, maybe when I get more into precision loading and holding onto a specific set of brass. 🇺🇸👍👊
I deprimed and swaged about 600 .223/556 brass with the RCBS primer pocket swaging kit-2 and it went very smoothly. Right in my single stage. Also broke about 3 pins trying to deprime with the sizing die... Then bought the Lee universal decapping tool and bent that within 50 cases... I got 3 replacement pins and did near 1000 cases in one sitting and it's good to go.
Sounds like you've been busy! I'm still working on my bucket of LC cases from a few videos ago, have about 600 left to go through on the trimmer. Which sizing die were you using? I've broken my share of decapping pins/rods from various sets. I do enjoy the Lee universal decapper, it's got a thicket rod(that's what she said). If you end up breaking that one, it's the same piece that goes with any of their pistol dies. What's a good email to reach you at?
@@DummyRound saubierethan@gmail.com is my email. The die I broke the pins in was rcbs, also just got a whitetail doe with that 45-70 load, video to come stay posted
I’m still considered a rookie when it comes to reloading 223. However, I have loaded thousands of 38spl, 357mag, and 45 colt. I have never broken a pin on my resizing dies. Now, I do realize that I haven’t reloaded enough 223 to come across that scenario, but in my humble opinion I don’t see myself breaking a pin on my 223 die. My advice would be to slow down a bit. Take your time reloading. Enjoy the hobby. 😊❤
@@albertforletta1498 it's mostly an occurrence with 556 NATO brass and not so much 223. I usually sort out the NATO stuff and toss it but when times got tough I started recycling it.
When I started reloading in 1970 I used a pocket knife with great results. Then I found out RCBS made a swagger tool to do it with (this was way before RU-vid). It’s as handy as a second pocket on a shirt!
I like the "whine like a little girl until my wife does it for me" approach. It seems to workand I lost my dignity long ago so it's a win for me! I get so few these days.
I use the Lee APP converted to the 4 tube and collator to deprime and it works great. I do all my 5.56 swaging with the Hornady swaging kit on my LNL and it works AWESOME!
Well done. I have the Lee APP kit but I have been using the Lyman Tool exclusively. If I could find a hex drive adapter for the bits it would be even nicer.
Couple notes, the Lyman screwdriver looking tool, the head comes off and can be mounted in a drill chuck, I used it that way for about 2,000 rounds, then got Lee Ram Swage is a swage tool for large and small primer pockets that fits on the press, 40 bucks, easy to adjust and use, 5 stars in my book Why buy the cheap way then upgrade? Because you just don't feel like buying more stuff if you are going to give up and sell it at a loss.
Sounds like a mighty fine product. I think it's relatively new and might not have been available when I was doing this video. I have heard a bunch of negative reviews on other press mounted swaging tools, like the RCBS. It seems Lee must have improved on that concept. Thanks for sharing👍🇺🇸
A few years ago I came to my senses and bought the RCBS pocket swager die for my Rock Chucker press. It has made life way easier and was about $35. I don’t get why people shell out $110-$160+ for the separate dedicated swaging tools when they could just buy the dies to do it on a press they already own.
Don't forget about the RCBS primer pocket swager. Around $40 and comes with press mounted die body, SM&LG swager rod, SM&LG swager head and case stripper. I prefer this because I'm space limited and don't have room to mount another fixture. The whole kit fits in a standard green RCBS case.
@@DummyRound nitrocellulose . unless you have and I am the idiot that missed it. "zombie powders" or "apocalypse powders" as smokeless as possible . something you can actually time the burn rate and compare to known existing rates. just a suggestion from a bumbling fool.
I'm not getting into reloading to save money and I've already accepted the fact I'll never "break even" with the initial cost of equipment. I'm looking at the savings per round. If factory costs me $2/rd and I can reload for under a dollar (I've saved ALL my brass) it's a no brainer.
As I'm a brass goblin at the range, I always try to check our local thuggeries lanes as they don't collect their brass. I generally manage a couple hundred after a qual shoot, both 5.56& nickel plate 9mm. I use the drill bit method to remove the swage, these sell well at gunshows.
So if you have a Lee single stage press, the priming lever, when forced into a primer pocket swages it perfectly. Nobody told me this, and I'm only assuming it's meant to be used that way, but I figured it out while loading some 300blk.
I bought the Lyman multi tool and I have 762x54R cases that are crimped AND sealed. So the primers are still in the pocket. How do I break the seal so I can deprime?
As long as your screw driver isn't interfering with the flash hole then everything should be fine. This is actually how the "Lee Loader" works - only thing not included is the hammer!
I have also used a camphor tool for drilled holes and just went for that slight camphor to let the primer slide in. Really that is all you need, just a small slope to let that primer slide in. Not making the comments I would normally say at this point. Just saying a small taper and lube lets everything slide in to full depth. Lol
lol, I sat down to reem (electric) a few hundred pockets...and, then placed an order for a progressive press swager 5 minutes into the process. Money well spent.
Billy, I have been using military brass for years, both 30-06 & 223(5.56) Getting primers out of the old 06 brass was sometimes close to impossible until I tried the L.E. Wilson decapers. Need two parts the base and the punch. For 30 cal- decap base#475 decap punch 30 cal Put the base on a good solid surface. Slide punch into case pin first, set case with punch on base and hit it with a hammer!! Sometimes several times! And some times the pin will punch out the center on the primer, leaving the outer ring, those cases are junk/scrap Hope I explained myself good enough that you get the idea. It does work the best I have found and I have done thousands of rounds, good luck
@@allanryan6014 I just rotate the case until I feel the decapping pin sink deeper. That way, you are not putting side torque on the pin and it will not bend or break.
Lol yeah I've got about 600 in my processing station. But I can do 1000 cases in a sitting. Want to find a way to put a motorized Reamer where the swage it it. In the primer station.
Sounds like a nice set up. I recently picked a 4 station prep center and now only handle the brass twice. Once to size on the press, then once to trim, chamfer, debur, and then ream the pocket on the Frankford Arsenal. This is about as efficient as I can get my brass prep without upgrading to something like what you have, or a Giraud trimmer. But, once again, I'm a cheap ass 🤣
Well, according to MY WIFE, I always end up choosing THE MOST EXSPENSIVE OPTION! (Actually, she turns out to be right about 98% of the time!) So, let me have that list again. From the top.......
I reamed 1k or so last winter. Have another 6 or 700 to do. The rcbs crimp remover in the prep center is slow and my hands are too arthritic to hold those cases. Going to buy a swager.
