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Top 3 Perennial Onions for Food Forests and Resilient Gardens 

Parkrose Permaculture
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I am always looking for ways to increase my resilience, and decrease my workload in the garden. Perennial veggies are a great way to do both! In my cooler climate, large bulbing onions can be tricky to grow. Let's take a look at 3 perennial onions that deserve a spot in a food forest like mine, or ANY sustainable garden design.
Egyptian walking onion
Welsh Onion
Chives
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@amysinger2201
@amysinger2201 8 месяцев назад
diversity also supports a diversity of pollinators
@rosem7042
@rosem7042 2 года назад
Walking onions... the gift that keeps on giving... and giving... and giving, whether you want it to or not!
@SerialSpinner-ss
@SerialSpinner-ss 10 месяцев назад
The little bulbs on top of walking onions are perfect to peel and add to dill pickles. They add a lot of flavor to the cukes, beans, cucamelons, okra (whatever you are pickling) and the onions are also delicious pickled.
@tgardenchicken1780
@tgardenchicken1780 2 года назад
Love this, love onions. I need to plant more chives and start to grow walking (wanted for years) and welsh (New to me) onions. Just a heads up for anyone who finds their chives or garlic chives self-seeding too much (not possible in my mind, but....) just dead head or eat the flowers! I sometime will pickle the buds for a few days for a different way to use them sort of like capers.
@muffininorbit
@muffininorbit 2 года назад
I got some sterile chives from one green world
@terrym2210
@terrym2210 Год назад
Thought it was me not doing something right to get big onions. Bought Welsh onions seeds and planted them out last fall after watching your videos. Was gifted an Egyptian walking onion and chives. 😊
@kenbrown438
@kenbrown438 5 месяцев назад
I tried to subscribe , but , RU-vid says I have too many subscriptions !!!! Keep making gardening videos and I'll keep watching !!!! Thank you very much !!!! I'm interested in these three verities of allium !!!!
@lrrerh8090
@lrrerh8090 2 года назад
Chives are so awesome. Makes great stock, flowers can flavour vinegar, nice garnish for eggs, potato salad, etc. endless uses. I have about 10 plants I keep dividing and still not enough.
@ParkrosePermaculture
@ParkrosePermaculture 2 года назад
Oh, great reminder on the vinegar flavoring! I should do that! Especially bc I make our salad dressing from scratch. It would gussy up the dressing.
@saltybloom6284
@saltybloom6284 2 года назад
This was informative and inspiring, I can’t wait to try these. Thanks!😊
@albertgauche9271
@albertgauche9271 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing! Great I love all these varieties.
@charlesbale8376
@charlesbale8376 2 года назад
Enjoyed the video, appreciated the content-info.
@dr.rev.lindabingham
@dr.rev.lindabingham 2 года назад
Blessings to all!
@RachellesGardenDiary
@RachellesGardenDiary 2 года назад
I wish I had better luck with large bulb onions. I have been growing Egyptian Walking Onions for the last three years. I bought the first bulbils from Etsy and haven't needed to buy anymore since they are self sowing and prolific. I bought some potato onions to try out. I also have a patch of nodding onions that are a nice native food plant.
@GeordieMilne
@GeordieMilne Год назад
Bowhahah I love the Dandelion seed heads just chillin behing Angela 😋
@justalurkr
@justalurkr 2 года назад
Hello from Tigard! I'm so glad I found this channel.
@holisticheritagehomestead
@holisticheritagehomestead 2 года назад
Great video! Perfect timing for me. We started our food forest recently and are happy to be transplanting in Egyptian walking onions very soon. I will consider the others mention for sure. We eat lots of onions. Thank you!
@heidirexin5141
@heidirexin5141 2 года назад
Discovered you a few days ago. Really happy to find someone close to my area doing this (I am near Willamina). I have had Egyptian walking onions and chives for a few years. I'll have to find some Welsh onions and give them a try.
@PegsGarden
@PegsGarden 2 года назад
Hello Angela, I grow a ton of garlic chives and scallions that I bought from the grocery store about 3 years ago, they are doing great and so easy to divide and put all around my garden🌱🌱
@marisasanchez1699
@marisasanchez1699 2 года назад
Great video 👍🏼 I love information about perennial food crops. I keep Egyptian Walking Onions and they work as a replacement for most other onion types in cooking and salads. Winner 🥇
@vickismallwood2082
@vickismallwood2082 2 года назад
Everyone of these onions I grow here in Oklahoma and as you said they do fantastic. My favorite is the walking onions my spread and multiplied like crazy as they beautiful to me. Plus good eating.
@dontwantthis
@dontwantthis Год назад
Siberian chives is amazing too
@miabagley2202
@miabagley2202 2 года назад
Wonderful video. We eat a lot of onions and I have not had the best luck in growing regular onions. I do have a nice clump of chives. I hope to find a source for the Welsh and Egyptian Walking onion.
@nmnate
@nmnate 2 года назад
I've been propagating store bought green onions for years, but after getting a couple clumps of walking onions going last year I might consider skipping that (some of the older ones start getting a little too papery). Chives are a staple of my garden...almost indestructible 👍
@permiebird937
@permiebird937 2 года назад
Those Welsh multipliers need the flower tops removed as they show if you want the patch to expand instead of going to seed. Welsh multiplier is my favorite green onion. The flavor is wonderful. I haven't had any luck getting bulbs from them. Once the bottom starts to bulb up, the bulb will send up a cluster of tops, as the bulb itself starts to divide. That said they are an excellent green onion, that we have grown for decades. Egyptian Walking onion is great for green onions as they self sow so well. To get a bulb takes more effort. They need to be planted individually in high sun, and given annual garden care. When doing that we have gotten golf ball sized red onion bulbs and occasionally the top sets get the size of filberts. One perennial onion we have been working with recently is the Potato Onion. Potatoes onions are a multiplier variety that is very shallot like. The bulbs produce tiny bulbs that are replanted each year. They can be hard to track down, and need attention to grow good sized bulbs. We are still building our numbers up, so we mostly replant and have only eaten a few, but they taste like shallots, yum. We grow a lot of alliums. My spouse has a passion for garlic and we have adapted or are in the process of adapting garlic varieties for our local conditions. The only garlic we buy now is seed garlic if we want to try a new variety. We grow enough garlic to get through the year from our garden. Of course most garlic need that annual garden care, except Elephant garlic, but that is closely related to leek and self sows well. Alliums are a facinating family with so many varieties.
@permiebird937
@permiebird937 2 года назад
Oh dear, I forgot to mention we have perennial leeks too. We bought one small order 3 years ago, and have been building up the numbers. The baby leeks are sprouting by their parent, later we divide, harvest and replant. We should have enough this year, to enjoy some this fall.
@oliverg6864
@oliverg6864 2 года назад
I was really excited about growing walking onions but I found they don't really have much flavour at all. Also if you want to use them as green onions, make sure they're still small as the older leaves are too tough to eat.
@formidableflora5951
@formidableflora5951 2 года назад
Zone 5b here, have found that Welsh onions are not reliably hardy. Marginally hardy, depending on severity of winter.
@ParkrosePermaculture
@ParkrosePermaculture 2 года назад
Thank you for the feedback. That is good to know that they might have a hard time and place is that cold.
@permieforlife
@permieforlife Год назад
On the walking onions, i've observed in my garden that if I take all the green leaves from a section, the onion underground will divide, if I can't sent up shoots. These onions have a great taste, oniony- without the teary eyes when chopping, and a hint of garlic flavor. I live in the central valley of california zone 9b
@maireadcuffe
@maireadcuffe 2 года назад
The Welsh onion flower turn to seed head, I collect planting in compost trays slow to germinate take about a year to get big. But we'll worth the wait, as the seed heads have a lot of seed
@ParkrosePermaculture
@ParkrosePermaculture 2 года назад
I was thinking of saving seeds, too! Especially as sourcing even one plant was a multi-year long process, I’d love to be able to propagate them more easily. I would love to know how this works out for you!
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 8 месяцев назад
The tree onion, from research (I have not tried them myself yet) will sometimes form a mixture of bulbils and flowers, rather than the bulbil-only umbel. The flowers are reputed to be sterile, but I doubt that.
@esmysyield2023
@esmysyield2023 10 месяцев назад
Have you tried growing long day bulbing onions? Those do really well up north.
@karenharkness4847
@karenharkness4847 2 года назад
I've just planted some perpetual onions allium cepa perutile aka everlasting onion. Very similar to welsh onions. I also just love chives and many of the other smaller clumps of alliums like society garlic, German garlic. Got lots of wild garlic and 3 cornered leeks too. I live alone so don't really need big onions for meals, potato onions are hard to find here in Wales but I would love to get and grow some.
@ParkrosePermaculture
@ParkrosePermaculture 2 года назад
I feel like Europeans are so much more on top of growing perennial veg than Americans. Y’all have soooooo many options I can’t find anywhere here. It took me years to find a supplier for Welsh onions. I’m so jealous!
@karenharkness4847
@karenharkness4847 2 года назад
@@ParkrosePermaculture there are some brilliant suppliers and nurseries. Sometimes you have to wait a fair while to get your hands on something special as they are snapped up fast! I've also found little gems in seed swop events and it's also great when I bring my own divisions and baby plants and watch them all go off to new homes. I think there is definitely a huge revival of perennial veg as we are all finding ways to grow food more resiliantly. And I for one am happy to move away from alot of annual veg sowing and the multitude of plastic trays and watering regimes.
@carolschedler3832
@carolschedler3832 Год назад
Interesting that you barely plant yours. I actually burry the bulbil. We do have cold winters and maybe climate matters. These onions are amazing ! I keep a jar of chopped EWOnions from mid March and for as long as possible thru the summer, then I start to harvest the mature onions. Yum, thanks for all the info and tips!
@ParkrosePermaculture
@ParkrosePermaculture Год назад
We have really wet winters and if you plant them deep they rot here!
@carolschedler3832
@carolschedler3832 Год назад
@@ParkrosePermaculture Thanks! Do you have many days below freezing? I am zone 6b and we get quite a bit of freezing and can go below zero on occasion. But I will be doing a test patch with shallow planting for sure! (Moving to a location with heavy clay soil. Very different for me. ) Also! I saw another RU-vidr with huge walking onion bulbs who plants the whole top set without dividing. I might try that too. Thanks again for your content!
@pamelabratton2501
@pamelabratton2501 2 года назад
Heaven smells of onions and garlic toasting in olive oil. Prove me wrong!😋
@HomeGrownVeg
@HomeGrownVeg Год назад
Are the welsh onions that have gone to seed eaten or is it just the new onions that are eaten. When do you divide them off, Winter, Spring, Summer or Autumn? Jim.
@melstill
@melstill 2 года назад
Planted Egyptian Walking Onion last fall and they seem to be doing well in a sunny exposure. I've tried to get Chives seed to grow but haven't had much luck but I keep trying. I might have to buy plants from the nursery as a last resort.
@ParkrosePermaculture
@ParkrosePermaculture 2 года назад
I started my chives from seed ages ago, but have since given away lots of clumps of them to friends and neighbors. What about asking in your local Buy Nothing group? Or gardening club? Folks are usually happy to share chives!
@MyHumbleNest
@MyHumbleNest 2 года назад
I planted seeds last spring and had two onion hairs that were quite thin by the end of the growing season. We still have the possibility of a freeze, so no garden planted yet. However, my pot from the chives last year is coming along so nicely!! I am happy to have a new clump to get into the garden. Stay patient... it may happen.
@melstill
@melstill 2 года назад
@@MyHumbleNest So, you kept them in a pot for the first season? I guess maybe they're just slow starters, that's good to know. Thanks. This year I multi seeded several pots and so far they are like you describe. I'll keep at it.
@nmnate
@nmnate 2 года назад
I'd recommend starting chives from seed. Once they get going they seem to be indestructible. I just give them a bit of mulch and keep the seeds slightly damp until they come up. They die to the ground here over winter but are back up in early to mid spring. My clumps of garlic chives are a little pickier, but still come back year after year. I had a clump of chives that survived in full shade without any extra water or help. I was really surprised about that one... 😅
@MommaLousKitchen
@MommaLousKitchen Год назад
Can't get chives either, 8b gulf coast
@jeffmeyers3837
@jeffmeyers3837 4 месяца назад
How do you save the little walking onion bulbils for planting the next season? I saved a couple dozen in a paper bag last fall, but now they seem shrunken and overly dry. Will they still grow?
@theresapenson3010
@theresapenson3010 2 года назад
Hi Angela I recently bought a property a couple of years ago and have started my dream of a permaculture forest it is in a suburban/ rural area in the northern Pacific Northwest just North of Vancouver BC on the Sunshine Coast and I was wondering about your thoughts on dealing with bears and deer on a property that is really too big for me to economically build a fence for . I know you probably live too close to Portland to have to deal with this but maybe you have some experience with these problems when you lived down south , would love to hear any of your practical solutions , we have a crazy bear population and it’s kind of gotten dangerous in the past while , thanks I am a huge fan of your channel !
@ParkrosePermaculture
@ParkrosePermaculture 2 года назад
We used to live in rural Oregon on the central coast. We had a very large and productive garden on a friends 20 acre property. None of the 3/4 acre veggie garden was fenced and the key to success was she had two garden guard dogs one was a schnauzer that kept away smaller pests like rodents and the other was a German Shepard who kept away all deer and elk. It was probably the most successful nonfenced rural garden I have seen. We got huge loads of product, all thanks to the working dogs. As for bear, I haven’t had to deal with them but know they can be very challenging to design around. Good luck!!
@Appophust
@Appophust Год назад
Aren't Welsh onions the same ones you can get at Walmart? I'm pretty sure I grew a bunch by accident in my yard. It was probably from when I turned my compost heap.
@eldorawillie6108
@eldorawillie6108 Год назад
Where can I get the Egyptian walking onion to buy? I would like to get some to plant.
@EastxWestFarms
@EastxWestFarms 2 года назад
Angela, great video! I planted the bottom one and half inches of the green onions I bought from Walmart. In our zone 8a, they turned out to be perennial. The bloom is white, cluster into a ball, about 1in in diameter. The based of the onion and the blades are also about 1 inch in diameter, more or less. Do you know what kind of onion it could be?
@ParkrosePermaculture
@ParkrosePermaculture 2 года назад
I had heard scallions can be perennial in some climates but have never done it. That’s so cool that they are perennials for you. Welsh onions are technically a kind of scallion, so that makes sense that store bought scallions could be perennial in similar climates. I have never tried to grow them, but now I want to try!
@EastxWestFarms
@EastxWestFarms 2 года назад
@@ParkrosePermaculture the thing with the store bought onion is that you never know what you are getting. I tried twice and both are perennial for me. One has smaller blades and has not bloom yet. They die back in the Texas heat but will sprout back when the weather is cool. They also bloom in early spring so it is great for the bees.
@misomossi
@misomossi 2 года назад
I love this video! Where did you source your Egyptian Walking Onion & Welsh Onion in our area? I've been looking & coming up short. I've been wanting to add them to my Quince quild since I heard Alliums improve the flavor (Possibly from one of your Quince videos 😉)
@ParkrosePermaculture
@ParkrosePermaculture 2 года назад
I was given the walking onions as a gift many many years ago, so I’m not sure who has them locally. I ordered the Welsh onions online. But I wonder if one green world nursery might carry both?
@chrissythacker1237
@chrissythacker1237 Год назад
Southern exposure seed exchange sells them
@GwenKersey
@GwenKersey Год назад
Nichols Nursery (Philomath, OR) carries Egyptian Walking Onions. You can mail order bulbils and they will ship for fall planting if you aren't local the nursery.
@julie-annepineau4022
@julie-annepineau4022 2 года назад
Do you grow garlic chives as well? Planted some last year. Hoping to get a good taste of them this year.
@sbffsbrarbrr
@sbffsbrarbrr 2 года назад
I have one clump of garlic chives and I think I planted most of the seed heads around the garden last year. I've never actually eaten any but I love, love the white flowers.
@quantafitness6088
@quantafitness6088 Год назад
Garlic can be perennialized! Not only will you get garlic leaves and green garlic most of the season but also you will have a reservoir of your favourite garlic varieties, ready to propagate if you need to. Resilience all over.
@muffininorbit
@muffininorbit Год назад
how?
@GwenKersey
@GwenKersey Год назад
@@muffininorbit leave some of your garlic bulbs in ground (or replant as you harvest) and they'll come back or allow some of your garlic to set bulbils and drop over like walking onions. I accidentally missed some bulbs harvesting and now have little clusters of garlic in the garden -- they can be divided (for larger bulb/clove production) or you can keep as a clump and harvest the greens (which look and use similar to chives but with a nice mild garlicky flavor).
@yochanontheseeker1942
@yochanontheseeker1942 2 года назад
Hello, Do you know if any of these or multiple ones will detour deer, as I’ve read garlic and onion do and I’m here in Washington state and looking to grow a hougle mound outside my new food forest for some chestnut and hazelnut trees I just got.
@heidirexin5141
@heidirexin5141 2 года назад
My deer don't know that they aren't supposed to like onions. They will eat them to the ground.
@maireadcuffe
@maireadcuffe 2 года назад
The
@gilshelley9183
@gilshelley9183 Год назад
There's no such thing as a "bulbuel". Its bulbil.
@heidirexin5141
@heidirexin5141 10 месяцев назад
🙄
@lightvassal77
@lightvassal77 2 года назад
Egyptian walking onions are my favorite. They fill the base of my figs here in 6a.🤌
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