I would argue an air compressor will get you much further off road than an engine tune! You won’t be climbing that big dune with your tuned motor with 40psi in the tires, but a stock motor with pressures right down to say 10psi will have a better chance
Ops… Especially with hot 5 it will be always an argument what has to be included, but going somewhere and not having an air compressor with you? I assume that should be Minimum standard even it would be a thirty bucks unit. Cheers..
I think everything he mentioned is hard mounted to the vehicle, thus it's a modification. Whereas yes, some air compressor can be hard mounted, they are more often just seperate bits of gear.
This is very very true. If a guy doesn't have an air compressor, he won't be as motivated to air down to be able to go much further off road, as well as more comfortably. Once I added an on board air system to my truck, I found that I air down/up way more often than when I just carried a portable one. I never bothered to air down when I didn't have either.
@@Scatterpattern It is, especially if it is permanently mounted on board. It's an accessory that becomes part of the whole system. No different than adding a winch. The winch itself is just an accessory.
All the "mods" he mentioned are changes in things the car already has. An air compressor, as practical or important as it can be in certain situations would probably not fall under "mod" of the car per se, but under usefull/important gear to bring. Edit: the winch for example is also an addition, but often the whole bumper needs to be replaced/changed to fit the winch, so it may count as a mod (of the bumper)
Great list. Yes, Nr.1 was to be expected. It's the same with every terrain and vehicle. Off-road, in snow or on freezing weather roads or on racetracks. They are what provides contact with the ground and can make the difference between reaching a destination or not, or life or no life anymore.
Hi Ronny, from South Africa. Great video, shaking my head around just before Christmas time. Can you maybe explain the logic behind the list though: 1. With the Hilux you will not get those Tyres on without suspension. 2. How do you go around speccing a suspension without all the other accessories that will add weight. It is the correct way but seems a roundabout way making the safety critical upgrade that is suspension way more expensive. Thanks for the good content!
Very true regarding #1, but you dont have to go bigger on the tire - just away from the highway tire to a AT or MT. If you are going bigger then yes need the lift. I'd say for #2 you need the weight that your vehicle will be fully loaded for a trip, specing the suspension without that will be a guess🙈
@@Ronny_Dahl I agree with this list for 95% of cars, but for my Ranger Raptor the #1 mod was rock -sliders, then under-body protection (upgraded). The rock-sliders gave me far more clearance and protection vs object obstacles/ruts. The wheels that the Raptor came with where adequate, comes with rear lockers and friends can assist with recovery.
Unless I missed it after reviewing your other videos, I would like to see you do reviews on off road lighting. Also, a review of light bars vs pod lights.
Great rundown Ronny, and your top five are the same top five as mine and most of my 4wding friends. And in the same order too, except 4 and 5. I’d put winch before tune, but all the info about tuning was spot on.
Winch yeah nah, so much of outback Australya there’s nothing to winch off, so maxtrax, shovel is more useful. And if you are travelling with other people a snatch strap or kinetic rope offers a faster recovery. Air compressor for deflating tyres. Good quality tyres with appropriate tread for the terrain. Long range tank.
I run two full sets of tyres and rims on my 2017 Hilux the factory 18 inch with hwy tyres and some 17 inch factory rims with BFG KO2 for bush trips both in the same width and rolling diameter I loose 80 km per tank full with the A/T so for me its worth the time to swap over when needed
Yes, I agree with your Top 5 selection. One thing about Winches that seems odd to Me is that they are nearly always fitted to the front, surely they be better on the rear or better still use a portable winch so you can place it where you need it!
Rear winches can be useful but they are not better than front winches. If you are driving along a track and get stuck or can't make it through then you winch backwards, you might not be stuck anymore but you are back to where you started. And most of the time when I have seen people use a winch IRL is when they can't make it all the way up a steep climb and need the winch to help pull the car up. A rear winch won't help with going uphill. Another common situation to use the winch is when crossing a river. It is easy to go down into the river but often the exit is slippery so it is best to quickly winch the car out forwards so it is not sitting in the water for too long. The problem with portable winches is that there often isn't space to put them on. If you are stuck enough to need a winch there is a good chance the attachment points for the winch cradle are buried in mud, pushed against the ground, hitting rocks or even just at an angle to the ground where there is not enough room to fit the winch cradle.
At the end of the day I think too many people forget that picking the right line and keeping it slow generally gets you most places. I see so many newbies with an extra tonne worth of gear and couple of thousand bucks worth too and can't make it where I've gotten in my shitbox ford maverick on 31s
I'm confused a little, I was told by all suspension folks that a 'lift' doesn't give you more ground clearance as it only 'lifts' the body. Lifting the body allows larger tires...and that is what gives you more clearance as you are then lifting the chassis. Please correct me if I'm wrong...
Partially incorrect and it does depend on the vehicle. A suspension lift will improve approach and departure angles and clearance between the body/chassis and the ground. With independent suspension, you also gain clearance under the diffs. The bigger tyres comment is partially true. The suspension is moved in its stroke can permit larger tyres to be fitted (to a point) but you get to a tyre size where you have to limit upward suspension travel to prevent hitting the bodywork. In these cases, unless you undertake additional modifications, you gain clearance by lose suspension travel. Larger tyres increase diff, chassis and body clearance to the ground.
Yes and no with the ground clearance, with a solid axle lift, you don't get any more space between the axle and the ground but you do get more clearance between the chassis and the ground. You also get better aproach, departure, and breakover angles. With independent suspension a lift will give you more clearance underneath the diff but not more clearance right next to the tires, as well as the other benefits listed above. For articulation it really depends on the type of lift you are doing and what is limiting your wheel travel if you are going to change how much you get. (Putting a puck spacer in a coil over will actually reduce your travel while giving you a lift, and a block lift doesn't change your articulation ability at all. Both of these points are assuming that nothing else will limit travel).
Let's see, my check list: Winch - Needs to be installed but doing it after this winter. Got it and all stuff needed ready tho. Tune: Yeah, my 5.7 hemi already delivers enough power and you can't tune N/A engines anyway that much so power part is covered and low RPM torque is plenty. Lift: Check. Got 2 inch EMU installed. Why that little? Because for my overlanding purposes it's perfect and I also daily drive my vehicle. Lockers: Quadra Drive 2, so I'd say that's a check. Front/rear ELSD's able to provide 100% lock (with lockable transfercase too and 4low). Tires: Check. Well, not for every offroading situation, but for finnish landscape Goodyear Wrangler Duratracs are very much sufficent. And since it's my daily, they're very quiet on road too. Once those wear too badly in ... dunno, 5-6 years, I might actually slap some BFG KM3 muddies under my rig. Looks like I just gotta get that winch installed and finish up that camper trailer build and I'm set 🤔 Very nice.
Top video once again Rohnny! been watching you videos for a while now, always entertaining, inspired me to start my own channel! keep up the good work mate!
What about protection? Bash plates, rock sliders and bull bar (which you need before getting a winch) and also before doing the suspension so you don’t have to redo it after adding more weight.
that's a great video to watch... I'm wondering which one is the best.. suspension lift or body lift or suspension + body lift.. my babe is triton 2012 manual...pls advice me from the expert like you sir
most of us will use our off road vehicle, 90% or more, on the paved roads, in suburbia, shopping centres, school runs, work etc etc. would be good to hear from you about how all these modification effect that daily drive, which our beloved cars will spend most of their lives doing. very very few of us have a dedicate off road vehicle. and that is the reality.
Ronny you forgot the most important one: Driver Mod. Its free, its the most fun to diy, and it will get you out of more trouble than it will get you into.
Would be good to have more info on usable pressures for those smaller sidewalls. For instance on my older VW I’m running 215/75 ATs and I don’t think it’d be possible to get those below 20psi. Perhaps there is a general rule-of-thumb for sidewall height to lowest pressure?
Ronny, I have just bought a new 2021 STX with a lot of ad ons but tyres I just don't know what to buy, I do want a LT AT in a 32 or 33on a 18 can you please put me in the right direction, mate on my old sr5 I had coopers sst thank you for your time and my respect to you and your family enjoy your Xmas break.
Hi Ronny! Just wanna asked you, I bought a new 2021 hilux sr5 but I wanna change the rims, but the rims that I want has 0 offset. The tyres that I bought are 265/65r17. My question is, if I put the tyres 265/65r17 and the rims that I like which is 0 offset would They rub on the mudflaps and the front bumper? p.s the hilux is still at stock ride height. Thanks ronny! 👍🏼👍🏼
I think people are going straight into huge lifts stainless snorkels and massive tyres probably moreso for an appearance thing rather than functionality. I know personally my favourite mod was the tune but atleast in a manual id definately recommend having a hd clutch before doing this!!! Another cheap mod that can really help off road is a throttle controller. Also remember with mods the legalities as the detect process is a pain in the ass not to mention it can void any insurance claim!!
You have forgot the ONE most important thing that will get you further and back, and that's... The DRIVER(s): Make sure you know what you are doing. Take a course. Don't bite more than you can chew. Make sure you have a buddy or two to assist with a pull/a tap on the shoulder/make coffee/open a cold one ;)
I'd have to disagree with the order. If you treated this as stated. The number one thing is tires, and a lift is a good thing But lockers and a winch will get you farther in more situations. Not to mention highway manners getting to a camp site, or pulling a trailer through mud
Rear winches can be useful but I wouldn't say it is more logical. If you are driving along a track and get stuck or can't make it through then you winch backwards, you might not be stuck anymore but you are back to where you started. And most of the time when I have seen people use a winch IRL is when they can't make it all the way up a steep climb and need the winch to help pull the car up. A rear winch won't help with going uphill. Another common situation to use the winch is when crossing a river. It is easy to go down into the river but often the exit is slippery so it is best to quickly winch the car out forwards so it is not sitting in the water for too long.
Hello from 🇨🇦 here, Could you make a video about after marker recovery points? Ocam Industries, Ironman, Road Safe etc, I have a R51 Pathfinder don't know how reliable these are or if it's a good option Thank you , cheers 👍
This is my thought on tuning. My 09 hilux has done nearly 300k and the motor and exhaust is standard. I don’t want to risk my reliability getting any kind of chip or tuning. If I want to be able to crawl slower up a track why not reduction gears for the transfer case? Probably about the same price as some of these tune ups/exhausts but keeps my engine as stock. Would I be correct? Also reduction gears will help if you have gone to larger tyres.
Tuning doesn't risk reliability unless you are doing some stupid shit or running early OBD2 and OBD1 car stuff. A good tune will increase reliability and gas mileage. Most manufacturers have a very conservative tune that is not very efficient due to selling the vehicle in a wide range of environments AUS/North American vehicles suffer this the worst.
This might sound like a dumb question but when I bring my car to be tuned for a unichip, will the mechanic ask me how I want it tuned or will they know what to do??
You forgot stay light! Huge advantage Also Yep fair enough-it appears no one does it but Front and rear lsds in mine Also- go just about anywhere A healthy compromise between reliability and 4x4 ability You didn’t mention the nasty effects that lockers have on reliability Surprisingly
Do you guys have 4x4 models trims that comes with decent factory tires, lift and diffs lockers ? Here in Canada I bough a Nissan Frontier pro4x (its a bit like the Navara but more reliable with a 4.0L V6 petrol gas engine not diesel) pro4x comes with Hankook Dynapro AT tires, Bilstein suspension with 1.5 lift, rear electronic diff locker. Its easy and moderate offroad ready from the dealer.
We do but there very expensive. Nissan as you mentioned has the Navara NTrak Warrior, Toyota has the Hilux rogue and rugged x, Ford has the Ranger Wildtrack and Raptor. A few other companies do a factory approved upgrade. But as I said very expensive. I think the Canadian dollar and Australian dollar are close in value so roughly and extra $20,000 for the upgrade.
There is the Toyota Land Cruiser 70 series. 33" AT tyres, factory option lockers and decent clearance. But most people will change the suspension out if they still want it to sit high with some weight in it.
Always good to watch these and hear what others have to say. Recorded my own recently with a mate so we each discuss our top 5 and some things are the same as yours but mostly in different rankings while some things are completely different. My video wont be released until next year however.
On a dry track the one with diff locks and road tyres will almost definitely go better, although there may be a higher risk of punctures because of the weaker construction of the road tyres. On a wet slippery track the one with better tyres would go further unless the track is very uneven and they are lifting wheels a lot.
