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Welcome to my Top 5 Best Clans on Total War: Shogun 2! In this video I go over my personal top 5 best clans in Shogun 2, things I take into consideration while rating the clans were clan traits, starting position, and unique units.
List of videos mentioned throughout this video:
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Top 15 Best Unique Units #15 - #11: • TOP 15 UNIQUE UNITS Pt...
Top 15 Best Unique Units #10 - #6: • TOP 15 UNIQUE UNITS Pt...
Top 15 Best Unique Units #5 - #1: • TOP 15 UNIQUE UNITS Pt...
Ikko Ikki Clan Overview: • IKKO IKKI CLAN OVERVIE...
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Total War: Shogun 2 Gameplay Information:
In the darkest age of Japan, endless war leaves a country divided. It is the middle of the 16th Century in Feudal Japan. The country, once ruled by a unified government, is now split into many warring clans. Ten legendary warlords strive for supremacy as conspiracies and conflicts wither the empire. Only one will rise above all to win the heart of a nation as the new shogun...The others will die by his sword.
Take on the role of one Daimyo, the clan leader, and use military engagements, economics and diplomacy to achieve the ultimate goal: re-unite Japan under his supreme command and become the new Shogun - the undisputed ruler of a pacified nation.
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Total War: Shogun 2 Features:
Total War: SHOGUN 2 features enhanced full 3D battles via land and sea, which made a name for the series, as well as the tactical campaign map that many refer to as the heart and soul of Total War. Featuring a brand new AI system inspired by the scriptures that influenced Japanese warfare, the millennia old Chinese “Art of War”, the Creative Assembly brings the wisdom of Master Sun Tsu to Total War: SHOGUN 2. Analysing this ancient text enabled the Creative Assembly to implement easy to understand yet deep strategical gameplay.
CONQUER the islands of Japan in the 16th century. Lead vast armies of samurai and fleets of giant warships into breathtaking real-time battles.
BUILD your kingdom on the inviting and turn-based campaign map. Wield economic, political, and military power to amass wealth, armies, and influence.
SCHEME according to the "Art of War" by Sun Tzu. Use fire and siege tactics, spies and assassins to adapt to the ever-changing conditions on the battlefield and throughout your kingdom.
BATTLE ONLINE and experience the main campaign in two-player mode. Then join epic online battles with up to 8 players and lead your online army to glory in special campaigns.
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Total War: Shogun 2 is developed by Creative Assembly.

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@rasmuskvthomsen4133
@rasmuskvthomsen4133 6 лет назад
You forgot to mention the ikko ikki having an orange mon
@benjaminmclaren8782
@benjaminmclaren8782 6 лет назад
What! But that is the main reason I pick that clan! How could one forget they have an orange Mon?
@MrSmartDonkeyLP
@MrSmartDonkeyLP 6 лет назад
Damn, I knew I forgot something!
@tiago4158
@tiago4158 6 лет назад
I also love orange 😂, but also dark purple 🤔😂
@allium2718
@allium2718 6 лет назад
Tiago Casquinho Then you must like Uesugi or Oda
@tiago4158
@tiago4158 6 лет назад
oh ok, well i didnt play that much shogun 2 but i still have it, i dont know if i was doing the right things in the campaign mod :S i do love the portuguese cannons though, haha making a full line of those and just put a defensive spear line in front of them is so much fun
@crusaderofthelowlands3750
@crusaderofthelowlands3750 6 лет назад
Ikko Ikki: Has an orange mon. Dutch people: *Heavy patriotic breathing*
@georgethakur
@georgethakur 6 лет назад
WILHELMUS VAN NASSOUWE BEN IK VAN DUITSEN BLOED DEN VADERLAND GETROUWE BLIJF IK TOT IN DEN DOOD EN PRINSE VAN ORANJE BEN IK VRIJ ONVERVEERD DEN KONING VAN HISPANJE HEB IK ALTIJD GEËERD
@officerpulaski2439
@officerpulaski2439 5 лет назад
G E K O L O N I S E E R D
@genericwhitemale6089
@genericwhitemale6089 5 лет назад
we kill orangemen in glasgow and derry
@SergioKoolhaas
@SergioKoolhaas 5 лет назад
That is so true!
@nathanrobinson1099
@nathanrobinson1099 5 лет назад
@@genericwhitemale6089 No one cares about Europe's Waku Pirates ;P
@nobunagaspectre
@nobunagaspectre 6 лет назад
I really love how the Oda are the best (arguably) because it reflects history. True, Tokugawa Ieyasu ultimately united Japan, but Oda Nobunaga really did a lot of the early legwork. Plus he was so successful because he actually spammed ashigaru in real life. As a result his armies were larger and could cover way more ground. For balance sake the Otomo were given the gun advantages, but really Oda was the first to use them with any kind of efficacy.
@TheAverage01
@TheAverage01 6 лет назад
The date clan was also insane. Date Masamue was an absolute madman.
@james-97209
@james-97209 5 лет назад
@@TheAverage01 yea too bad he isn't in the game
@pypy1986820
@pypy1986820 5 лет назад
Well. The game only represented 1 part of the Oda strength right--powerful and plentiful Ashigarus: Nobunaga's absolute disdains of hereditary Samurai and other noble classes, so he literally made Samurai status and lordship earn able military ranks that any and all common foot soldiers can achieve if they have the metal. however, the biggest disappointment of this otherwise flawless game is that CA completely F'ed up the balance on Arquebus and cannon units by making them uselessly underpowered: Those guys were the main stays of the later half of the Sengoku Jidai for heaven's sake and revolutionized how Japanese wage wars. If they follow the history, the gunpowder and siege units aside from Mangonels should absolutely outclass bow units in battlefield outside of some specific circumstances such as battles immediately after rain. The gunpowder units should be treated simply as higher tier ranged units instead of occupying a separate category that requires them to be balanced against bow and arrows. By the time of Sekigahara, guns and cannons were generally preferred over bows and arrows unless the unit is mounted.
@dav1539
@dav1539 4 года назад
Computer games ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ppImUcyVjco.html
@Noobie2k7
@Noobie2k7 4 года назад
I'd have lloved Shogun 2 if it had a similar Lord system to Three Kingdoms or Warhammer. I guess it doesn;t since it;s more of an actual historically accurate TW rather than a Fantasy one.
@jorgancrath2885
@jorgancrath2885 6 лет назад
Shogun 2 was the pinnacle of refinement in the total war series.
@Warmaker01
@Warmaker01 6 лет назад
CA hit a lot of right notes with STW2. Warhammer TW2 is pretty good, but CA got a lot more leeway to do crazy things due to the fantasy setting. CA's "normal" TW games had to be relatively grounded in history, and STW2 did it just right.
@alexsitaras6508
@alexsitaras6508 6 лет назад
Warhammer would have been my favorite setting if the campaign wasn't streamlined to the point of being dumbed down. I feel like Attila did a lot right in terms of campaign play but threw it all away in the fantasy setting.
@nergalsmom
@nergalsmom 6 лет назад
*cough*Rome1*cough*
@jorgancrath2885
@jorgancrath2885 6 лет назад
nergalsmom While Rome got me into the total war series it was an unbalanced game. The longer the campaign last the more obvious this becomes.
@nergalsmom
@nergalsmom 6 лет назад
That's a valid point. Tbh I always prefered the Barbarian Invasion campaign because it was shorter, more focused, and had more interesting asymmetry between the factions. Which is incidentally why I like Shogun 2 slightly less because of the sameyness of the factions. Both are great games though.
@AvengerAtIlipa
@AvengerAtIlipa 5 лет назад
"Cavalry in Shogun 2 are incredibly strong." *Breathes in Yari Ashigaru*
@TheNorthernSkeptic
@TheNorthernSkeptic 4 года назад
The Avenger at Ilipa Never cared much for cavalry as almost every army I face have a ton of spear units.
@xHenry3110
@xHenry3110 4 года назад
@@NiclasLoof Hammer and anvil tactics for me all day everyday, can't even imagine how bad I'd be if I didn't have 4 heavy cav flanking the enemy to save the line..
@Noobie2k7
@Noobie2k7 4 года назад
In both my campaigns so far the only Cav i've really used are light cavalry in the early game and then Bow Cav in the late game just for breaking out that stinky cheese and chasing off units.
@masterexploder9668
@masterexploder9668 4 года назад
Here they are great to obviously chase fleeing units, attack enemy archers and charge from rear to cause morale drop and mass route. Need some micro to run from all these spearman who try to catch them. It's not possible to field cavalry armies in this game, though when playing Takeda you can get away with slipping in an extra unit or two of cavalry to use the clan bonus. I used Yari cav quite often and it was nice, I guess Katana cav has more staying power to just keep hacking through enemy, but I don't want to stay with them in longer melee fight unless I know they will break their enemy soon.
@omologo95
@omologo95 4 года назад
I can't hear your Yari over the sound of my Mongo- Takeda Horde
@divanvanzyl7545
@divanvanzyl7545 4 года назад
Here after Shogun 2 was announced to be free to keep on Steam.
@spartnmarcen5110
@spartnmarcen5110 4 года назад
About to go through the rest of the videos because of it too.
@ArturoLopez-ly2pn
@ArturoLopez-ly2pn 4 года назад
I know right? Better to be ready
@warrioroflight4577
@warrioroflight4577 4 года назад
i think you gotta buy the dlc to get the ikko ikki buuut its worth it Kappa
@dav1539
@dav1539 4 года назад
What do you think of the channel ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ppImUcyVjco.html
@helikos1
@helikos1 4 года назад
Filthy casual
@Ty8011
@Ty8011 6 лет назад
before watching I'm guessing Oda is number one
@tobyblack9535
@tobyblack9535 6 лет назад
Tyler are you kidding? You don't get bow warrior monks, have to convert every province and can't really use diplomacy for trade. They're good, but not the best.
@james-97209
@james-97209 6 лет назад
Toby Black I think you confused them with the otomo because 1 you get warrior monks the just don't have buffs 2 after you beat the tokugawa and the imagawa you can make a fuck tone of diplomatic/trade agreements due to war horses and 3 your religion in the one that most clans have
@tobyblack9535
@tobyblack9535 6 лет назад
Δημητρης Στεφανιδης yep. Completely misread the comment. Sorry about that
@Monika-ok6lp
@Monika-ok6lp 6 лет назад
My friend said "nothing can pass the long yari, except archary units"
@bragassembada5659
@bragassembada5659 6 лет назад
Tyler same
@beaniegunther4805
@beaniegunther4805 6 лет назад
Thank you for keeping this game relevant. The best total war ever.
@dav1539
@dav1539 4 года назад
You'il Love my channel ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ppImUcyVjco.html
@helikos1
@helikos1 4 года назад
Guessing you've never played rome.
@Dio-solaire-D.-Ethelo-Brando
@Dio-solaire-D.-Ethelo-Brando 2 года назад
@@helikos1 ROMA*
@picogagula448
@picogagula448 10 месяцев назад
​@@helikos1i think that too, shogun 2 lovers are the one who secretly love empire TW but ETW is buggy so they choose shogun 2
@helikos1
@helikos1 10 месяцев назад
@@picogagula448 Sound mate, I really like empire too. Need a new TW game set in that period
@Dparrey
@Dparrey 6 лет назад
Coming from the newer games, I love how clear and legible the map is. They really did a great job of making it look beautiful but really playable as well. newer games look nicer but are a busier and often I cant tell when I'm on a new nations border.
@DziadekEdek
@DziadekEdek 6 лет назад
One more thing to mention for the Takeda is that Shingen is the best daymio in the game, instilling fear in enemy units right from the start.
@tayrc951
@tayrc951 5 лет назад
Fear? Laughs in Yari Wall
@qilehuang8444
@qilehuang8444 4 года назад
If you know how to properly use cavs yes bloodthirst is incredibly useful to takeda/any cav tactics. Try to attack/ambush whenever you can as you play takeda, best on rainy days with no hills. Weaken your enemy’s morale with monks. Try to steal a kill on their generals if there’s a chance. Avoid charging into spear walls head-on or prolong melee with spear infantries. Ashigarus are vulnerable to morale debuffs so a a charge from their back will do the deed. If you choose to play cavs your goal is to crush your enemy’s morale before killing them. Don’t panic when stupid AI ashigaru chase your cavs. Just take ’em for a good walk and they will submit as you smite down the rest.
@thewanderingdoomed4883
@thewanderingdoomed4883 4 года назад
Well uesugi Kenshin also have that to?
@kyokushinbaka6046
@kyokushinbaka6046 3 года назад
@@tayrc951 Laughs in flanked
@steffen2592
@steffen2592 2 года назад
Shingen could have defeated Oda, but he died before and his son fucked it up and Takeda got destroyed after.
@DanTheKendoMan
@DanTheKendoMan 6 лет назад
for the ikko ikki it should be worth noting that inciting revolts with your monks creates small AI armies that can take a settlement for you without declaring war, and creating something like a distraction so your main force could flank around or set ambush. my favorite unit is shimazu katana samurai, with gold sword. obviously pretty late game but i feel they make a decent mini general or morale keeper, while effectively being able to attack or defend if treated like average samurai
@colmoe
@colmoe 6 лет назад
Oda>Takeda (good starting position, alliance securing border)>Ikko(Revolts)>Otomo(starting location and guns)>Shimazu or Chosokabe (starting position)
@av076
@av076 6 лет назад
Glad to see you're still making shogun 2 videos. Was wondering if you'd be willing to give us a video/tutorial on how you go about campaign map movement, combat strategy, and being divided by the enemy. For example the Oda and Takeda are splitting up my attention to two different ends of the map.
@heronmyer3780
@heronmyer3780 6 лет назад
oda isn't a surprise to anyone. you can win the fastest legendary game by playing oda and spamming ashigaru.
@heartbreakmanNo1
@heartbreakmanNo1 6 лет назад
Second that :3
@adrianziecik6280
@adrianziecik6280 6 лет назад
It is to me they are annoying to play I just punish my self with them
@skoomamuch356
@skoomamuch356 6 лет назад
Shogun 2: Ashigaru Spam Attile: Horse Archer Spam
@coolchrisable
@coolchrisable 6 лет назад
Medevil 2: heavy calvery spam
@m0nkEz
@m0nkEz 6 лет назад
Fots: armstrong gun spam
@koreancowboy42
@koreancowboy42 5 лет назад
"We are, the Oda" Seriously though, I beat the campaign alot with Oda, their decent is you dominate early and make good choices of the Takeda and Hojo are good choice, but you'd be having to ask for military access to get across and attack the other clan's.
@StarRider253
@StarRider253 6 лет назад
I love Classical Antiquity and the Medieval period the best, but this game is hands down the pinnacle of the series.
@jackabsolute5525
@jackabsolute5525 6 лет назад
It's that time of year when I play Shogun 2 again.
@izzy8655
@izzy8655 4 года назад
I played chosokabe as my first shogun 2 vanilla campaign (hard difficulty). I have to say they were difficult to play, i ended the campaign having fullfilled the key provinces goals although i only had 12/25 required. It was because from the begining everybody declared war on me, but once i conquered sikoku another problem emerged - i was blocked by the sea. I didnt really have money to upkeep a strong navy, not to mention other clans kept blocking my ports and attacking my trade. Anyways good vid
@Jagonath
@Jagonath Год назад
Chosokabe also seemed to me a lot harder than advertised. Good on paper but... yeah not so great in reality.
@redtsun67
@redtsun67 4 года назад
If you play correctly you can take the shogun in just a few years as Oda. All you need to do is mass recruit yari/bow ashigaru until you have 2 full armies, then march on the shogunate. You can literally auto decide the battle and win due to superior numbers.
@flamma6096
@flamma6096 6 лет назад
Ive recently gotten the game due to the steam summer sale and ive been watching some of your legendary campaigns. Im glad I got into this game!
@RomanHistoryFan476AD
@RomanHistoryFan476AD 6 лет назад
Chosokable are my favourite. the clour scheme, the flag and the archers and location are good enough to build a stronghold island.
@cultofmalgus1310
@cultofmalgus1310 5 лет назад
For me the top 5 would have Chosokabe, Shimazu, Oda, Ikko Ikki, and Takeda. But I personally enjoy the challenges presented playing the Mori Clan.
@sgg3586
@sgg3586 6 лет назад
Yari Ashigaru can (or at least used to) be able to beat Katana Samurai in a 1v1 if the unit is in it's Yari Wall formation and no Samurai are wrapping around the sides of the unit. Combine this with double stacking Ashigaru ontop of each other and you basically have Hopilites. The Oda on the other hand with Long Yari Ashigaru can actually hold castles and defensive lines into the late game compared to regular Ashigaru. Which is why when I used to play online against people, I would field a strong/cheap Yari Ashigaru core that was backed up by some bows and higher tier Cavalry.
@arihantseraogi5834
@arihantseraogi5834 6 лет назад
Oda was given buffs i think keeping in a scent of the history afterall it was Nobunaga and his two retainers who led the unification of Japan.... Nobunaga's father Nobuhide was often called the tiger of Owari....and Nobunaga who once was called the fool of owari later on became a fierce tactical and martial power .... A much better understanding of the Japanese warring estate era known as Sengoku jidai can be achieved by playing the game "Nobunaga's ambition" and its awesome and then there's a similar theme game concerning china ROTK- "Romance of the three kingdom" which is another gem
@MrNinjaone1
@MrNinjaone1 4 года назад
i had a feeling that was a special person when the computer mauled me with him
@antoniodelaugger9236
@antoniodelaugger9236 3 года назад
@@MrNinjaone1 judging by the fact historical daimyos usually die early on the game, your ass is getting beated by another oda guy
@lightschunk
@lightschunk 6 лет назад
The Oda I found very easy to play as because I like to use spearmen. They’re the most common unit.
@nebeskisrb7765
@nebeskisrb7765 6 лет назад
O yiss, my fav clan is No1. Whenever I play Oda I never go beyond Ashigaru units (and Light Cav). You will have 2-3 armies for each one of your enemy's and the difference in troop quality will be negligible thanks to experience and province buffs.
@ReviveHF
@ReviveHF 6 лет назад
Oda Yari Ashigaru, Oda Long Yari Ashigaru, Oda bow Ashigaru and Oda Matchlock Ashigaru with melee buffs are pretty unstoppable, and they are cheap. I also nickname the Oda as the Prussian of the Sengoku Era.
@JustAnAzn
@JustAnAzn 6 лет назад
Please do Total war game reviews! I hate watching/reading reviews from sites or people who aren't actually into playing total war.
@siegelink9549
@siegelink9549 6 лет назад
If you have not gotten Medieval 2 yet I will warn you. It is the most overrated game in the world. Its super buggy, glitchy and quite frankly everything about it is broken. Not worth the money even with a steam sale.
@Maquack
@Maquack 4 года назад
I really agree with ikko ikki in my gameplay not on legendary but on hard i managed to conquer kyoto with their ashigaru and managed one of my best batlles in shogun 2 But after 2 turns i lost kyoto because as you might expect most of my army was dead so i was attacked by 3500 army of shimazu i ahd something around 600 i lost this battle but i managed to kill 3000 soldiers of their army and after 3 turns my main army with warrior monks coquered kyoto once again
@RushGamma
@RushGamma 6 лет назад
Date for life man! Can't beat that charge bonus!!
@StaySafeStaySoggy
@StaySafeStaySoggy 4 года назад
The date are so ezz i love it you just sweep through japan in one direction with the gold armour units
@destroyerinazuma96
@destroyerinazuma96 6 лет назад
Nice video, man! Even though I've been playing the game modded as of late, I also still put Shimazu and Takeda in the top 5. That being said I love playing as Uesugi, mostly because of the flavor and the legend of Kenshin.
@Vincrand
@Vincrand 3 года назад
Having a blacksmith in you hometown is a very big plus to me. The Hojo has cheaper castles, so it's easier to fit more military buildings. Furthermore they have a gold mine, 2 provinces, start near 2 schools and a lot of weak targets to the right. The Date have acces on 1 trade and don't have to worry about having to fight on multiple flanks. So I'd say that the Hojo is a very good pick and that is mainly due to location.
@thelonewolf9866
@thelonewolf9866 6 лет назад
Granted the ODA on legendary is one of the hardest starting positions ever! Legit all of your neighbours are gonna end up in war with you! (Kitabatake almost always die to the Tsutsui). And sooner or later either IKKO IKKI or Hattori are gonna declare war on you. My advcice: Spam sshigaru -> take what you can -> turtle-> steamroll late with 5 full armies of ashigaru!
@Vyacheslavskiy
@Vyacheslavskiy 3 года назад
I still consider Shogun 2 as best TW so far, before this is was Medieval 2. And I'm not a huge expert in these games, I never won any, no matter how many times I tried, but the game where even sucking is pleasent and you actually know that you're learning, I think deserves a place in hall of fame
@flaggy185
@flaggy185 3 месяца назад
Militarily, Oda having bonuses to the cheapest and most spammable unit in the game makes them really tough in defence sieges Of course they cannot withstand a full assault with everything the enemy haves, but they can at least kill a lot of their troops beofre falling (or give you some big heroic victories if you manage to kill all proyectiles) In economics, you can have a lot of armies spread in your territory and still win a lot of money As terms of appearence and cool factor -Their colours look great in everytjing -Pike and Shot
@DS-zn7yk
@DS-zn7yk 4 года назад
i like your choice of best clans in total war: shogun 2 btw i am extremely devoted to the oda and refuse to serve anyone only the oda cuz i am a fan of warlord Oda nobunaga
@Ebolallama
@Ebolallama 6 лет назад
I can't wait for the top 5 worst clans, wonder which clan will be last. Cough, Tokugawa, cough.
@Naraku-no-Hana-WE
@Naraku-no-Hana-WE 6 лет назад
I don't know dude. Tokugawa are brown and gold, which if you squint looks orange. That counts for something, it's not like Hattori or Hojo come anywhere near a glorious shade.
@purplelife85
@purplelife85 6 лет назад
Well at least they are the most unique clan in the game. The only vassal u can play xD
@Comradcommodore
@Comradcommodore 6 лет назад
Hattori def gonna make that list. I like the clan but my god do i hate their starting position/fact their units are more expensive Mori a stinker too , buffs to the Navy just never seemed important to me.
@Naraku-no-Hana-WE
@Naraku-no-Hana-WE 6 лет назад
Mori have a very interesting starting position though, so that one is likely to come down to personal preference whether they're a bottom dweller or a mid rank clan.
@benerdick_cumberbiatch
@benerdick_cumberbiatch 6 лет назад
Comradcommodore it's not that hard. Omi is a great province to take. And has a really good battle map to defend against the ikko Ikki with.
@Foxboy106
@Foxboy106 6 лет назад
I was sure ikko Ikki would take the no. 1 but when you placed them at 2, I knew the oda had snatched the no 1 spot
@pauldechampignon2287
@pauldechampignon2287 5 лет назад
Oda is my favourite clan to play and I can confirm that long yari Ashigaru are almost impossible to be defeated by any close range unit.
@Mr2Helios
@Mr2Helios 4 года назад
I would put Date on either 3 or 4, mostly bc of Date No-dachi, IF you manage to get them close, that's it, you won. While I always find besieging a chore, defensive battles are sweet and easy.
@coolchrisable
@coolchrisable 6 лет назад
whats funny is when i first got shogun total war 2 a few years back being a seasoned total war player i chose the oda (do to me being a huge history buff anyway) i ended up haven half the map by a few turns just using those units (with some mix of katana samuri and some fire bomb throwers and trebs for later parts of the game after i raped the northern part)
@amon5393
@amon5393 5 лет назад
I agree with the number 1 spot. Oda was the first clan I played when I got shogun 2. It's a very good noob-friendly clan like the Shimazu mainly because of its clan bonus. Besides, who doesn't like mowing down cavalry with a solid spear wall and a row of archers behind it?
@Boi-dj3eo
@Boi-dj3eo 4 года назад
So because shogun 2 was free on steam and i never played a total war game before i tried it out. This is what i did. Short campaign, normal difficulty , start as Oda(because that was the one ive heared of first due to playing civ 5). If you can believe it i never recruited any sword units and only yari, bow and cav (didnt know siege existed). Because of that one mission to get the yari master i only did the combat part of the tech tree. It was going pretty well untill i triggered the shogun to attack me and therefore the rest of japan save my 2 allies(one of wich betrayed me later and the other i betrayed later). I did not prepare but lukily i had 10k moey at the time(i wanted to upgrade my castle or get the yari hero for when i unlocked it). But in the end it was all good managed to win at round 50 or 51. 10/10 would oda again.
@UncleSarge
@UncleSarge 3 года назад
My favorite clan are the Ikko, I genuinely love the way they play. I'm going to watch your video on them and try my best to figure out how to play them. Many thanks 😊
@sumedhraosurendramalandkar4056
@sumedhraosurendramalandkar4056 4 года назад
My first campaign was with the Date clan nd ended with me becoming the Shogun 😍
@dac314
@dac314 6 лет назад
For the life of me, I really couldn't figure who could be #1, but your justification makes total sense.
@RoyaIProduction
@RoyaIProduction 6 лет назад
Shogun 2 best Totalwar :) - i hope 3 kingdoms will be like that 😍
@fergusonthereaver6686
@fergusonthereaver6686 4 года назад
Is it any good..
@Eragone365
@Eragone365 6 лет назад
I would have put Date on the list, the charge bonus is good early game when most armies are equally matched. You have access to a blacksmith to recruit better units on turn one. You can easily caputure the northern trade node. I consider the starting position for date very safe because you can ally with Hatakeyama on turn one and always keep your war-front moving west. You will almost never have to fight a war on two fronts (with proper naval protection).
@MrSmartDonkeyLP
@MrSmartDonkeyLP 6 лет назад
Their starting position is very slow, and they the No Dachi isn’t a strong enough singleplayer unit for me. I also generally don’t ally with people if I could just take their towns instead. For me the Date were close to making this list but not quite there.
@Naraku-no-Hana-WE
@Naraku-no-Hana-WE 6 лет назад
Agreed, Date's start is not only slow but also the farthest away from more strategic resources than any other clan. I'd rank them about 7th personally. Still a fun clan to play, and neat colors.
@sei7959
@sei7959 4 года назад
So basically, Oda is like the soviet union of Japan due to their superior cheap Ashigaru units.
@tuub1281
@tuub1281 4 года назад
Our*
@scorpion5574
@scorpion5574 4 года назад
that's Ikko Ikki: ashigaru focus and they seek to eliminate class difference. Much closer although still nowhere like communism
@Christian-mt5jx
@Christian-mt5jx 2 года назад
Not to play fun police, but human wave tactics where not commonly used by the USSR during WW2 and is a myth created by German WW2 generals to excuse their loss to the Soviets, who had less active military personnel during the start of operation Barbarossa. Even during Fall Blau Soviet armies with less material and manpower won battles against the Germans. (Sorry I'm just myth breaking.)
@HeinzAnimation
@HeinzAnimation 4 года назад
4:34 Thats why my friend lost 12 Battles against that Faction, The neighboring country of Oda. EARLY GAME
@itstriplem2069
@itstriplem2069 6 лет назад
do one for FOTS, I love this game, best total war ever, and one of my most favorite games
@Holy98989898
@Holy98989898 4 года назад
Everyone gangsta until oda comes with tons of ashigarus
@encamp100
@encamp100 6 лет назад
Your persistence is amazed
@BPGInf3rn0
@BPGInf3rn0 5 лет назад
every time i do a campaing, ikko-ikki are almost always destroying everyone early, it's insane
@aniketpandey2007
@aniketpandey2007 6 лет назад
Yours was a great point of view for sure, but you forgot something - Uesugi and their Bow Warrior Monks.
@MrSmartDonkeyLP
@MrSmartDonkeyLP 6 лет назад
I didn't forget, the Uesugi have one of the hardest starting positions in the game, and Ikko Ikki and Chosokabe get better Bow Warrior Monks too, the Uesugi bonus is pretty mediocre.
@aniketpandey2007
@aniketpandey2007 6 лет назад
Chosokabe, for sure can field better Bow Warrior Monks due to an inherent archery advantage, but ikko ikki warrior monks are nearly at par with uesugi. hmmmm ur ryt about the position, it can be attacked from 2 sides. Considering one front with vassal.
@lorenzclausen628
@lorenzclausen628 5 месяцев назад
I would have added the Hojo into the top 5. Safe starting position, with two settlements, gold mine and armorer.
@Bendman31
@Bendman31 4 года назад
Completed my Oda campaign with 200k gold and huge ashigaru armies
@berataysen9402
@berataysen9402 6 лет назад
I am following you for a long time and I learned much from your gameplays. Could you explain why you didn't the Date on your list? I think their starting position is very good. Fertile lands, strategical points, unique buildings and iron. And their rooster is strong too. I appreciate if you could answer.
@MrSmartDonkeyLP
@MrSmartDonkeyLP 6 лет назад
I answered that question in the Top 5 Worst Clans video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sfYCrTCK1uo.html
@diocletia1388
@diocletia1388 4 года назад
Oh come on, Dãte has been my favourite clan because of that plus bonus charge to every unit.
@dragonhorde9866
@dragonhorde9866 Год назад
i lovethe shimazu is my favirot caln mainly becsue i love sword units but this has the dis advantage of leaving you wek to cav. but fer not for my scnd facirot ting GUNS can slove this problem 3 shimazu ashigarue gunner units vs 1 cav? what cav i say! haha. i wud higly recoamde this caln for any one that loves guns and katan samurie. i first pickd this facion due to the anime series Driferts noting els rlly. btw keep up the great worke love your videos! :D
@Raudulf
@Raudulf 3 года назад
I came here after my first Chosokabe legendary domination attempt, Realm divided ended my rule rather quickly. only needed 20 more with Kyoto made me big sad.
@HP_lovecrafts_cat67
@HP_lovecrafts_cat67 3 года назад
Never liked chosokabe
@bblack8478
@bblack8478 6 месяцев назад
Man i just recently decided to give this game a serious crack, been playing TW games for prolly 15 to 18 years now, pretty much play only on very hard difficulties. I chose Oda, and am getting smashed. I get war declared on me by everyone, and am fighting multiple armies, often 2 at a time it seems endlessly. How do you take on so many enemies so early before you can establish economy etc....
@carlobresciani3168
@carlobresciani3168 5 лет назад
My list: 1) Oda 2) Ikko Ikki 3) Shimazu 4) Mori 5) Hojo 6) Takeda 7) Otomo 8) Chosokabe 9) Date 10) Tokugawa 11) Uesugi 12) Hattori
@Pasteurpipette
@Pasteurpipette 6 лет назад
I think Chosokabe's position beats that of no.5. You're protected, and can springboard to Kyoto. From there, you have interior lines to mop up the country. Plus buddhism :). Yari at no.1? A shameful dispray!
@MutheiM_Marz
@MutheiM_Marz 5 лет назад
i creat a mod that shimazu clan start at N.shinano (the origin of shimazu clan) and it‘s fun shimazu is for noob,but after i play all the clan (realism dominate campaign) i feel comfortable with shimazu it can play religious war with all the clan on south and ally with otomo
@Naraku-no-Hana-WE
@Naraku-no-Hana-WE 6 лет назад
I'm curious where the rest of the clans would be ranked. Is that a video for the near future?
@MrSmartDonkeyLP
@MrSmartDonkeyLP 6 лет назад
I might follow this up at some point with a *rest of the clans* video.
@Naraku-no-Hana-WE
@Naraku-no-Hana-WE 6 лет назад
That'd be cool. I think the top clans are mostly predictable, give or take a clan. But near the bottom there's four clans that are quite debatable, which are underrated/overrated.
@sterbob
@sterbob 6 лет назад
Date not in Top 5? But with the Smith(Master Armourer+Armoury) and Naginata Samurai, they become immortal, by an Armoure of 9 + 5 = 14. It's extremely boring to play, because the starting section and most battles can't be won by Auto-Battle, because there these stats doesn't not count, but the Naginata Samurai, are immune to any damag of arrows and horses(don't remember against sword).
@MrSmartDonkeyLP
@MrSmartDonkeyLP 6 лет назад
That's just straight up not true, there's no such thing as immunity to damage. Even at 14 armour Naginata Samurai still take damage from archers. There's 4 different clans that all start with a blacksmith, 2 of which are in this list because they have other things they bring to the table too. Watch my top 5 worst clans and you'll see why I didn't put the Date on this list.
@misterchronicles5544
@misterchronicles5544 6 лет назад
I'm Downloading Shogun 2 right now watched your worst factions of it im gonna try those factions first
@abhijaysarmah7418
@abhijaysarmah7418 2 года назад
Ngl, for me the ranking goes Otomo Shimazu hojo Takeda Oda Mostly tho i might be biased to their history and their units
@frostschnee6553
@frostschnee6553 6 лет назад
Well its kinda accurate if you prefer oda clan because oda clan was pretty powerful during sengoku period
@Show_Cast
@Show_Cast Месяц назад
i played my first camping as shimazu and spawned yari and bow with a sprinkle of katana and cavalry from time to time. For God is my witness I am a shogun.
@Show_Cast
@Show_Cast Месяц назад
When he said cavalry is strongest unit in game believe me when I say this I had a sigh of anxiety. When I had even a single crushed ashigaru in my army I didn't cared for cavalry.
@akriegguardsman
@akriegguardsman 2 года назад
Wait newbs only recruit katana samurai? I only recruited ashigaru units because I found the samurai rather expensive and not expandable
@zackalexei8108
@zackalexei8108 4 года назад
I'm using Oda at my first playthrough because they're really awesome in real life 😂
@QuinnMLH
@QuinnMLH 6 лет назад
Shimazu #1 honourable and skilled fighters in all of Japan
@Vlad_Kowach
@Vlad_Kowach 4 года назад
They called shimazu demon's)))))
@centuriontaurus5346
@centuriontaurus5346 4 года назад
Gotta say man I am no where near your amount of play time knowledge or expertise when it comes to shogun 2 but hahahah holy shit do i enjoy your videos and for the record orange is the best color and Takeda are the favorite clan keep on keepin on brother
@jaystrickland4151
@jaystrickland4151 3 года назад
I agree with your rankings and it is just a shame because I do not like playing the Oda in campaign mode. Have your special unit be an ashigaru seems to b such a let down.
@explosivedonuts3764
@explosivedonuts3764 3 года назад
Ik kan een engels sprekende nederlander uit miljoenen videos onderscheiden. Great upload my dude, oranje boven ;)
@explosivedonuts3764
@explosivedonuts3764 3 года назад
Ohh wow ik zie nu ook dat dit welbekend is in de comments hahaha
@GJBndls
@GJBndls 4 месяца назад
yeah the oda is powerful when you play as them but the computer ai never plays well with the Oda, I played so many campains but the oda never gets to the end game, most of the time they will be dead in the first 20 turns.
@wonkyness1010
@wonkyness1010 6 лет назад
could you please do a top ten provinces.
@akuma6278
@akuma6278 6 лет назад
Ha I knew the Oda was strong everytime i went against them or was them they always freaking killed so much.
@someinsignificantguy4433
@someinsignificantguy4433 4 года назад
I try to play as Takede, but I notice that my Enemies use very many Yari-Units, which makes it hard to use my Cavalry-based Army efficiently.
@antoniodelaugger9236
@antoniodelaugger9236 3 года назад
you have to use them like shingen did, in ambushes, hammer and anvil and with actual infantry support. you shouldn't do cavalry only armies
@Asraeks
@Asraeks 6 лет назад
Oda is so strong that within less than 50 turns i maxxed out renown meter and shogun declared me an enemy of the state and im fucked
@gabrielmelnik6796
@gabrielmelnik6796 4 года назад
If you manage to survive as Tokugawa you get a crazy strong general, due to the fact that your starting position is shit and you are under constant siege.
@alim3576
@alim3576 11 месяцев назад
what about the Date ? where do you rank them ? top 6 ? last ?
@nikau9311
@nikau9311 2 года назад
I also do like orange and the ikio iki but i would put it on 3
@BenersantheBread
@BenersantheBread 4 года назад
I'm not good at Shogun 2 or strategy games in general, and trying to play as the Shimazu is driving me insane. I have no money because I can barely get any trade done so the other clans on Kyushu outpace me with their armies and the entire island gangs up on me. Please help, I'm slowly going insane.
@michaelhawkins7389
@michaelhawkins7389 3 года назад
Please do a best of list for FALL OF THE SAMURI
@chuscradle7392
@chuscradle7392 6 лет назад
Best in game shots I've seen by far... What's your pc specs sir?
@MrSmartDonkeyLP
@MrSmartDonkeyLP 6 лет назад
I recently upgraded a few parts. The full specs can be found on the "about" section of my channel. ru-vid.comabout
@jacobes.2210
@jacobes.2210 6 лет назад
He is right about Oda, i played a campaign with them and 12 turns turns later... I own most of the map
@omologo95
@omologo95 5 лет назад
Yup. I even sometimes TRY to not just invade shit, but the AI constantly forces me to conquer the world.
@VincentLawDS
@VincentLawDS 6 лет назад
Oda matchlock ashigaru late game become just as useful as the yari ashigaru if used well, imo.
@zologamez6365
@zologamez6365 Год назад
I use yari asugaru in the mid and late game so oda and ikko ikki are the best for me at least
@Barrystue
@Barrystue 2 года назад
Haha I took your advice before I got shogun two. Got the orange, spammed yari and long yari ashigaru, Beelined for Kyoto, triggered realm divide after taking Kyoto, getting surrounded……… oh and my economy commuted toaster bath
@Barrystue
@Barrystue 2 года назад
That’s my one problem with the oda, they start pretty much smack dab in the middle of everyone. Realm divide is annoying as hell playing as them
@MrSmartDonkeyLP
@MrSmartDonkeyLP 2 года назад
@@Barrystue I don’t think I’ve ever advised to beeline for Kyoto 😝
@Barrystue
@Barrystue 2 года назад
​@@MrSmartDonkeyLP ​ you never did but i decided screw it and you replyng to this was the last thing i ever expected. keep up the amazing TW content. while pixelated apollo (and kinda also oversimplified) got me into total war. you're the reason i got shogun. im quite new to the total war series. my first (and favorite) game was three kingdoms because the retinue and diplomacy systems are better in my opinion (why did they remove the retinues for troy i loved just deleting an army and redeploying it across the whole map with -5 muster turns and steamrolling my enemies) my second favorite is actually napoleon because it fits my playstyle which is sit back and do nothing and let the stupid AI murder itself. 3rd is shogun because its total war shogun. do i really have to explain. holy hell ive been "talking" way to long
@Barrystue
@Barrystue 2 года назад
also who would win. donderbuss cav or revolver cav
@Barrystue
@Barrystue 2 года назад
just looked them both up and revolver has more range so we have a winner
@poayayaille6874
@poayayaille6874 6 лет назад
That was very usefull, thanks
@chewy85
@chewy85 2 года назад
when i play as Oda my favorite combination is Rifle and Yari... The Yari goes: Poke Poke The Rifle goes: Beng Beng
@MrSmartDonkeyLP
@MrSmartDonkeyLP 2 года назад
Sounds like a sex scene.
@HorribleAbomination
@HorribleAbomination Год назад
Shimazu was my first clan.
@IRussian007
@IRussian007 5 лет назад
I put date as number 1, not oda. Ikko ikki also have good ashiharu units and oda starting position is shit. In other words, those ashiharu help oda survive against the enemies surrounding it till you get samurai. The bonus is only slight. The reason date take the spot is because their charge bonus is applied to all units not just 1. And on top, people underestimate charges. Charges put any otherwise superior unit on equal ground, including oda spear ashiharu, from that initial loss of men enemy gets. And numbers matter in a fight because outnumbering enemy actually increases your kill chances, which in a hidden way increases your unit stats, essentially nullifying oda ashiharu units. The bonus puts date katana samurai on roughly equal ground with shimazu. 2nd, date have early access to iron which will need for hero units, and iron will be hard to get as the game progresses, for some odd reason many factions dont trade it even if they own the territory. With date you don't start with many enemies unlike shimazu, giving you precious time to get samurai units with field camp bonuses which im correct, need iron to be built. These bonuses include charge bonuses that add on top of faction wide inherent unit charge bonus. And you can as result if saved up money and time if relative peace buy castles and and dojos to crank out hero units earlier than any other faction. The relative peace and resources give date an early game advantage similar to oda and shimazu. The difference is that later in game date become stronger by being able to field best units earlier, and did I mention they have an insane charge bonus combined with camps? I found myself much easier time taking and holding the shogunate area than oda by far. Sure oda ashiharu are best but by a margin which is nullified by position and late game units which slaughter gun ashiharu, nullifying even late game bonuses of oda. Essentially, unless you take half of japan in first 40- turns, which is very hard, considering ikko ikki also have similar bonuses, you will find ashigaru bonuses outdated and modern units inferior. I had a hard time taking and holding Kyoto with a bunch of peasants. I have no idea why you placed oda as best. In fact, i consider shimazu superior to oda because the samurai bonus added with inherent blacksmith bonus make their samurai not only usefully throughout the game but also superior to most samurai. With shimazu u don't need to have a great variety and katana are best against all except cavalry. Sieges is easier with a bunch of armored ninjas taking the walls over an inferior spear or nginata unit, so is defending castles, making shimazu katana unit a strategically superior unit even to takeda. It's true bonus is played out in the long run, not in ability to slaughter cavalry which is only tactical while sieges are strategical. The only other faction i love for stratetigical purposes is takesda for faster campaign movement, battlefield movement, inherent superior fighting skills of cavalry coupled with clan bonus make it a relatively good seige unit as well. The reason why shimazu are better is because despite takeda cav being superior to katana even when dismounted, their low numbers make it hard to take castles full of soldiers. You have an easier time doing this with 3-5 takeda cav units vs 3-5 inf. than 10+ vs 10+. So largely circumstantial. And when defending and attacking, i find shimazu superior because castle warfare is still slightly superior to campaign map maneuvering warfare. Point of the essay is-why is oda the best when at least a few factions are already better?
@kurtamis4770
@kurtamis4770 4 года назад
I think your dead wrong about shimazu, there starting position couldn't be any worse than nearly any other by always being at war on their island, the otomo and their domino mon counterpart both won't mind trying to gobble you up within the first few turns after you've conquered the neighboring clan you start out at war with. It isn't exactly hard it's just expect a death stack at your doorstep and all your trading ports falling into enemy hands since you need to field a large army with what little you have. This right here is what happened to me when i tried following a few quick tips and ended up with only 4 provinces out of the island and a death stack at the borders of my capitol, i really dont think this is a beginner friendly clan.
@ChairThrowingTime
@ChairThrowingTime 6 лет назад
I like that the worst clan is what helps the best clan rise into power historically.
@worldfighter1323
@worldfighter1323 6 лет назад
For the Oda, you forgot that they have Oda Nobunaga.
@lumpilumpinski9951
@lumpilumpinski9951 6 лет назад
Chosokabe? Nice bowmen, starts on an island and got this fancy black/white mon?
@MrSmartDonkeyLP
@MrSmartDonkeyLP 6 лет назад
As I said at the start, I had to push them out of the list, but I think they would've been #6 for me.
@lumpilumpinski9951
@lumpilumpinski9951 6 лет назад
That satify me. Very honourable. :)
@simwingsfi9720
@simwingsfi9720 Год назад
Nice video :)
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