Top 5 Important Lore Characters Who are Just Random Quest Mobs 

At level 7-10, as a Human in Elywnn forest you receive a quest to kill a gnoll called Hogger. It is a little known fact that Hogger is the reincarnation of Sargeras, however his god like powers are well known and he should be handled in a 40 man raid.

In regards to Zar'jira, in a way I feel like it was a good idea to place her in the troll starting zone because it allows the fresh new players to understand Vol'Jin's backstory and try to get them to sympathize with Vol'Jin. It surely beats doing the orc starting zone and the most important lore related thing you do is collecting cactus apples for your boss like the peon you are at level 4

Gotta point out something about Dar'khan though: Back in the day, Deathholme was basically an open-world dungeon. It's soloable at level now because of changes to class abilities, but back then if you went in there alone you'd get murdered. If you look at the quest description for Dar'khan it says you need five people. You really needed a dungeon group. Myself and my guildie got our mount money by running people through Deathholme (me tanking, him healing). At the time it certainly seemed pretty epic. I really liked the fact that this important charcter's demise took place in the open world and everyone got to do it. I strongly disagree with the idea that everything epic must happen in an instance, and with the idea that a huge grind makes a boss more epic. Ysera is a perfect example of how you can make an accessible yet epic boss fight scenario. Everyone does it, but it's not like she's nerfed: you just have a forty man raid with a great raid lead behind you. At the end of the day, Ysera is still her epic self and when the lament of the highbourne plays you will still bawl your eyes out. If you weren't too busy doing that to fight in the first place.

I think Dar'khans place in a 5-man quest was fitting. You wouldn't believe it nowadays, but he was TOUGH.

Here's another one for the list. The Void Lord Dimensius the All-Devouring. He was a super powerful Void Lord who destroyed the Ethereals home world and we just kill him in a quest in Netherstorm.

7:10 that actionbar. Nice meme.

I know its not killing but Orgrim Doomhammer dies randomly in the Battle for Shathrath quest in WoD, i literally didnt know he died until i did the quest again on an alt

I actually think quest kills can be far more significant than raid/dungeon bosses if they're done well. Dar'khan was actually a super-hard fight and pretty much came only at the very end, which I think is pretty significant. Plus, dungeons and raids are full of "unimportant nobody" filler bosses. And, to be honest, I'm over quests having "final battles" that just end in me being stunned while the boss blathers on and disappears. Legion had way too many "Enough, I tire of this" villains. The really well-done quest bosses are the ones you see/interact with several times before the final showdown.

While he is a dungeon boss, who else was disappointed when they made Archaedus a full blown Titan Keeper who gets killed by lvl 40 players when his comrades are raid bosses with the exception of Loken?

Character that should be on this list instead of those we killed with help of overpowered lore characters: Dimensius the All-devouring - you remember this NPC from Netherstorm you go to kill with bunch of random ethereals? Well guess what this guy is a manifestation of a fucking Void Lord Zalazane - ok they fixed this one with Cata revamp, but before that ... geze Yenniku - don't know who this guy is? Well he was the youngest son of Vol'jin before we killed him Most of the villains in artifact quest lines ...I'm sure I could find more. High Admiral "Shelly" Jorrik - this guy is a High admiral so I guess he is important, but he is just a random ass NPC

Elves and Dragons get corrupted way too easily. Oh, I got a splinter; I'm evil now!

dar khan was one of the most epic fights I have ever had in wow, back when I was a big noob. Im glad he was there, he felt like a real dungeon boss.

About Dar'Khan, you could argue that after coming back from death so many times, his body had become frail and weak, which left him vulnerable to the relative *poke* of a lvl20 player. Regardless, great list!

Dark'Khan was used good though, not only did we finish the Ghostlands storyline by taking out the BE's most hated enemy, but it led to them to be accepted into the Horde.

Dar'Khan was fucking hardcore in BC. A group quest that was the culmination of the blood elf starting zones, you even did a quest that gave you a weapon specifically to fight him and the reward were some pretty sweet blues, among them a sword with a unique appearance to this day. I died so many times with my BC chars on that guy.

6:15 i like your arc mage rotation,seems unique and difficult

I liked Darkhan as a quest boss. He was relatively strong and used to require a group of 2-3 people to down. Especially with those adds that were beside him. Good times.

I remember reading the sunwell trilogy and realizing how important Darkhan was. Love all the hidden lore in this game

Lord Peranolde? The leader of the Syndicate and closest thing Alterac had to a king after the Second War? Yeah he and the Syndicate were all but forgotten by Cata, but he was a fairly major lore character. Or Galen Trollbane for that matter. You are required to kill him as a DK, but in Vanilla you are indirectly forced to kill him as Horde in a quest; which is made canon in Cata.

Dar'khan could be some kind of lich as he keeps coming back even though his body is destroyed Also,in game you see him in an altar of the damned,a WC3 building that used to bring back scourge heroes So you could assume he's just been brought back and is still weak,and defeating him while he's weakened might be what it takes to end him

Wow lore is so addicting. Even when I’m taking a break from my subscription, I still keep up and read up on the lore. It’s some good stuff tbh lol great vid btw❤️🦄

Dimensius could have been on this list. The void lord who destroyed the Etherals home world, and caused the Etherals to actually be a thing in the first place. He’s just chilling in the Netherstorm waiting to be killed as a quest.

tirion fordring? he just dies like a bitch in the opening invasion of the broken isles. ysera's death was surprising but not dealt with badly she got multiple cinematics and they clearly made a big deal about her dying

please never stop making videos, it is so exxciting!!

To everyone asserting that certain NPCs should be more "powerful", take a second to think about how power is a relative measurement. I have seen comments about low level dungeon bosses being super important, yet killed by level 40s etc, but that's just how a level based game has to work. Yes they were important, but relative to the level of player designed to be challenged by them, they are very powerful. Think of it like this: Dar'khan is level 20 and gets killed by questing players, but relative to his purpose in that zone and the players fighting him he is very powerful. You have to think of these characters relatively and realize that we didn't always have level-adapting heirlooms and enchants. A lot of these very important characters were created before the game was so simplified. Edit: also, do you think that if you were living inside the wow universe that you would have a "level". The numbered leveling system is for user experience and organization. If you could bring an NPC to life and talk to them they wouldn't have any idea what level they were. Just like the powerful people in reality don't have levels that we measure them by, the NPCs in wow wouldn't in their own right.

Really enjoying your videos, man

To say some of these are random sells a lot of these short. The quest with Ysera's death was very in depth. It was an epic storyline and an epic death.

Awesome vid, Hiru!

This is a really original video idea! I really enjoyed watching it. Thanks for making it!

Can't believe you missed out the original Ursoc from WotLK. Not sure if he was quest mob or just one of those rares thats barely rare, but you can kill Ursoc in his den in grizzly hills. He has no special model and just looks all the other generic bears in the zone, and has like 7k hp.

very nice and original video! Would love to see a second part :)

Haven't watched it yet but I'm hoping shandris will be here!

awesome vid bud

In case anyone wants to know, the music at 4:18 is "Is That You Or Are You You" by Chris Zabriske

I know it isn't a quest, but i think that it is a bit lame that Ner'zhul was a dungeon boss and not a raid boss. Shadowmoon Burial Grounds was a good dungeon but Ner'zhul had a lot of potential.

Once again, great video and facts very corrects!

Tbh there was a pretty good culmination before you faced Dar'Kahn if you played through the Ghostlands during BC. Not to mention that fighting through the Undead Base was relatively hard, and even if you had a full party killing him wasn't easy. The whole zone was telling a story and you could really feel the ripples of the aftermath of the Scourge invasion.

Without even starting, I know its a good video, like any Hiru ones

thanks for explaining that ive been wanting to know for a while.

god, those witty remarks you make at the end of your videos as so on point.

Holy crud, I totally missed that about the sea witch! I consider myself an expert on Warcraft 3 lore and never knew the witch made another appearance.

4:42 Picolo in the distance "DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODGE!"

Was playing some private cataclysm wow, and discovered you can fight Mathias shaw in a horde mission, he's fighting in the area of the quest, killing some cultists while the horse is also tasked to kill some cultists. It mean that Mathias was just a few meter away from death, since in lore, the adventurer would have found him and killed him while doing the quest, we are supposed to wipe everything in the area, both cultists, the elementals, the dragons, and the leader. Mathias escaped death, he's good.

I think a list for order hall quests would be good because so much story goes on now for each class and you don't see it unless you play that class.

I knew Dar'khan would be on the list. But you know, back in BC, when the game was super hard while leveling, Dar'khan was a mini dungeon boss all on his own. And as a lore figure, Fenris has some background lore both in alternate and original timeline, back in Rise of the Horde. (but you surely knew that)

I was very disappointed about treatment of Dar'khan in TBC. Sunwell trilogy was first Warcraft -related thing I read and it bloody awesome. Dar'khan was so powerful he could even control and fight against dragons and in general felt like very threatening character. Had he succeeded in controlling renmants of Sunwell (which became very close), he could rivaled even Lich King himself. It's disappointing to see character like that reduced to mere quest mob with little backstory and standard blood elf model

I have to toss my opinion in and say that it's a shame you didn't mention Orgrim in WoD. His lack of ANY sort of treatment was damn near insulting considering how important of a lore character he is. He was such a throw away and it was a huge shame. Hell half of the time his dinky "cut scenes" didn't even seem to work for awhile.

i think this video has some pertinent qualities,i like this idea,maybe it could become a series in the future,one of the npc's i thought was really interesting personally was "Kathra-Natir" the dreadlord,he wasn't part of any quest,but he was available for a short time period as a (boss) on the broken shore before the opening of the area,there might be some screen shots or some wowhead evidence to prove this,but he stood out to me and will always be in a special place in my memory.

Speaking about Order Hall/Artifact weapon bosses being important - are you going to do a video on that, talking about some/all of the bosses and how they're important in the lore?

i would 100% be interested in a whole video about ysera

Almost two years later and I'm still absolutely livid they killed Ysera in a quest.

I remember trying to solo the belf traitor in bc. It was super hard but i did manage it a few times. I really hope classic goes si well that they make a bc versjon to. That would be do epic. Great video. :)

Looking forward to today's stream :)

Y'Sera's death is still one of the few WoW moments that always make me cry.

I would argue that Dar'khan is the only one that makes sense being easily killed as a low-level. Because he had been vaporized and killed a handful of times. So I would say his powerlevel have been dwindled to be pretty much non-existent now as I would believe the void gods had been draining his power.

Well when Anzu ate Seethe, his cursed flesh turned him flightless (Like you saw in the dungeon in TBC) which is why I was somewhat confused in Alternate Draenor - Not to mention Rhukmar was killable, and was known to be a vain & racist to non-flightless creatures was still kind & benevolent & Anzu was moreorless her (Yes Rhukmar is a girl!) bestfriend. She could not find Anzu because his love for Rhukmar was strong & he didn't want her to see him flightless, so hid. She was humbled by Anzu's sacrifice, but she was also horrified by the curse that now darkened her home. Rukhmar took to the skies and left Arak, eventually settling atop Gorgrond's highest peak. Rukhmar decided that if she could not find Anzu to thank him, then she would reward his sacrifice by creating a new race in his honor. Using her own life energies, Rukhmar transformed some of her kaliri followers into the arakkoa: "heirs of Arak". Due to sacrificing much of her life & power though, she ended up dying. Later the Arakkoa, they found her charred bones near the spire, and they used their magics to resurrect her. But it was only a partial success. This new Rukhmar had only a sliver of the original's power and intelligence. Nonetheless, the Apexis worshiped her as their goddess reborn. The Anhari infused her with their Light powers, granting her a long life so she could soar the skies for millennia. So perhaps the alternate 'Rhukmar' we saw in Alternate Draenor, was merely the shadow / recreated version from the remains.

With the sea witch pre cata I think it was there was awhole event to take back the echo isles then in cata when the troll area was released she is the "end boss" I guess you could say. So there was a huge whole event to take back the isles and the last bit of it was finished in the quest line.

I've thought about this so many times. About your main character, because I actually read the quest to him and researched him. When I found out how significant he was and how little focus was put on him I was genuinely surprised. Especially when you look at some of the goofy raid bosses they have.

I love how your mates action bar was all arcane blast

I always though it was dumb that Rokhan was some random NPC in Northrend in Dragonblight that gave you an elite quest. I know he was kind of just in WC3 to fill a slot for a companion for Rexxar, but if Chen became a big deal then why couldn't Rokhan?

Loved it!

The death of Ysera is super heart breaking. She was the bomb in the warcraft book Twilight of The Dragon Aspects, And probably my favorite of all the aspects.

to be fair dar khan was one of the most epic fights I ever had in wow confronting him when being new to the game back when BC released was my first coop experience, It was epic

As a person who mains a druid i can tell you the death of Ysera was sad

Great one

Random Quest Mobs? Every single of those NPCs is not random, but placed were it made sense for the story of that zone. And it wouldn't make sense to put them into some stupid raid or dungeon. Most of the bosses in Raids are anyway random filler between the Arthas, Deathwings and Kil'Jaedens. Remember Highastromancer Solarian, Marrow'Gar, Flamegor, or any of the other dozen of random filler Bosses? It's good that Blizzard doesn't put all important NPCs in Raids just to serve raiders as loot bags. As Quest Mobs they have their story they can shine in without being grinded for some tier set.

I disagree with your assertion that these lore characters should have been raid or dungeon bosses. They don't really make much sense there Zar'jira's importance is primarily to the Darkspear trolls. The other races don't really have a stake in her death. She also doesn't really fit any of the Cata dungeons (again, because she's important more as the source of the trolls' plight than as one of the Naga who might assault the Abyssal Maw) Like Zar'jira, Sethe doesn't fit any of the WoD dungeons either. The raids are all focussed on the Iron Horde or the Legion so he wouldn't have fit in there and the Arakkoa of Skyreach don't worship him either so he would have clashed with the theme of that dungeon as well (which is about the glory of the Arakkoa, not the dark side of their society) Ysera, like I said earlier, would have fit in with the Emerald Nightmare theme, but she's more important in the main zone. If she retreats to the Nightmare, there's no inner conflict for Tyrande to resolve: both the things she's after are in the Nightmare, so she'd have no reason not to follow. Killing Ysera in a regular quest means Tyrande has to choose between trying to rescue her beloved or stop Ysera from destroying the Temple of Elune. This is a much more compelling story than "Okay. I need to get to the Nightmare to rescue Malfurion and Ysera. Come back in a couple weeks" Fenris could have replaced Darmac in Blackrock Foundry, but it would make both the questline of Frostfire and his fight in BRF worse in the process. Most players (all Alliance and a whole lot of Horde) would have no idea who he's supposed to be, and players who care about him during the zone would be very disappointed by the lack of decent resolution to Ganar's story in Frostfire. Dar'khan is harder to defend because BC era Blizzard hadn't really learned to use their quests to tell a story effectively. By modern design principles, he would haver fit in well inside Sunwell Plateau as something of a prelude to Wrath, but that still leaves the Blood Elves without a big thing to cap off their starting experience. I can't fault past Blizzard for using him there instead of saving him for Sunwell, over a year after the release of TBC Ultimately, Blizzard have become better at telling stories through their questlines and a consequence of that is that sometimes important characters will have to get killed as a result of that. Saving the characters for a raid or dungeon only makes the zone's story worse and diminishes the impact of the important bosses in the raid. Imagine if each of the bosses in Nighthold was the culmination of one of the storylines. It would make Elisande and Guldan's deaths much less impactful. Legion's dungeons at the end of each zone does help, but you're still left with cases like Ysera where the story is better if she's not in the dungeon

I include neither the Sunwell trilogy nor Blood of the Highborne in my headcanon. While I accept the existence of Dar'Khan and the fact that he was indeed the traitor who helped Arthas and was killed by him (in other words, only his brief appearance in "Arthas: Rise of the Lich King"), as far as my headcanon goes, he was not subsequently vaporized even once, and him not being all powerful and not much of a big deal is justified.

why ysera is on this list i dont know. We had major build up and a cutscene and it also played out into the raid. You also through your explanation validates it as an important moment. Well done

Kinda off topic but something I enjoy about Game of Thrones aswell is that if you've read the books you can see they included many important characters in the show that are just kinda there in the background and don't even necessarily have any lines, but if you know the context of the scenes and remember the descriptions of certain characters you can recognize them there :)

This is a pretty good ideia for the video i like it

Nice actionbar on the Fenris scene :D

"a star constellation or some shit" that part had me dead LMAO 5:00

I agree with these for the most part, but Sethe and Fenris just aren’t quite on the same level for me. Zar’jira is the reason we have trolls, Dar’khan is behind the story of the Forsaken, blood elves, Kael’thas and Kel’thuzad, and Ysera is quite obviously a goddamn Dragon Aspect (and is the most significant one to the general story of Warcraft other than Alexstrasza IMO). Meanwhile Sethe is behind the backstory of a race that, while heavily featured in Outland, Draenor, and a couple dungeons, never even had their own raid, and were really just kind of a filler race. And Fenris is mostly only notable because of his relation to other, more important characters.

Elune purrifies Ysera and all the while I am like:" Couldn't you have done that like, 10 minutes earlier?"

your videos make me miss WoW so much, it would suck trying to restart though

#5 had quest chains, a scenario and YEARS of waiting for it to happen, and #3 was the pinnacle of an entire zone that chained through so many events that are still effecting WoW lore into the next xpac. They aren't just 'random' quest mobs.

You should make a video series that explain class builds like what they should have for there build. Example you have a paladin that can be protection, retribution, or healer u explain the what each one does and what they need like haste or stuff like that. What you think ?

1:26 just to be sure, the Darkspear trolls come from, well, the Darkspear Islands. In case you confused them with the Echo Isles.

Dar'khan actually beat and mind-controlled Korialstrasz in the Sunwell manga. The red dragon who was second only to Alexstrasza and was fairly infamous for being a Knaak mary-sue, part of the trilogy with Rhonin and Broxigar (although Broxigar was more liked than the others). It's crazy how he went from that... to getting stomped by level 19 Horde twinks.

It's a better alternative than "you did all those quests! Bravo! Now end this zone' storyline by killing this random dude no one ever heard about!"

I main a shaman troll and I pay attention to the quest text, and I always knew that she had to be someone more important then just the starting zones boss , but since I don't know other lore then wow I passed it off

You should have included Murmur. Even though he was a last boss of one of the dungs in Auchendoun in TBC. This guy was responsible for having destroyed the Place, in the lore it was stated that he could destroy entire civilizations simply by yawning, and yet. 5 guys go in, find this random boss and kills him. Soooo undramatic for a being that according to the lore at the time that was presented, rivaled Titans in Power, even though the extreme bits of it may be retconned or simply a metaphor.

What about Mal'Ganis? We fight (but dont actually kill) in a quest in Northrend during Wrath of the Lich King. He ports away and we never see or hear from him again, but it turns out he actually got trapped in a piece of cardboard and used as a legendary warlock minion in Hearthstone

Great lore vids. I couldn't help noticing some of the damage prompts "WHOOSH!!" as shown in 8:52 What addon is that?

He didn't even have his awesome hat... The dude looked Vampire Hunter D with that damn thing

:thinking:

What's weird is, Ga'nar kills the sons of The Iron Wolf, and is pretty gruesome about it. Since The Iron Wolf is Fenris - his older brother, he pretty much just straight up murdered his own nephews..

Cool video ! And yea, disappointed about Ysera... she's SUCH an important character

How about making a list of random quest mobs who are wildly more powerful then they let on to be? Like the undead quest mob who single handedly tore away from the influence of the lich king at the height of his power? :D

I was thinking more like the Anvilmar's, in northern Wetlands. There the rightful air to Ironforge. But since the conflict between the other clans happened in IF, way before classic. The Anvilmar's said were out! And just never came back. They were close with the Bronzebeard's. Hence why they had the majority of Ironforge.

A little late to join the comments but...... Dimensius the All-Devouring. This guy destroyed the former homeworld of the ethereals and now hes just a quest mob in the middle of nowhere (hes in netherstorm so its meant both figuratively and literally)

The thing that got me about Ysera's death is that she was only corrupted for about 5 min and they were like "Oh well let's kill her." They didn't even attempt to find a way to cure her.

6:15 I like that mages Spellbar :DD

I see your point. However, you have to remember that by the time WoD and Legion have released, us players have become important (and powerful) lore characters too. It's not really a stretch that we would be taking on other major characters in a "simple" quest at this point.

I would like to chime in and say: Talgath, the right hand man of Kil'jaeden himself, the guy who betrayed Velen, leading to the death of his family, and later acted as Kil'jaeden's spy on Draenor. Basically, one of the big reasons the Horde even exists and the draenei were nearly wiped out. Pretty important, huh? He gets killed in a quest in Mac'aree. A pretty good quest, but still a quest.

5:46 confirms my suspicions about arcane skill cap

4:39 I still fucking love the description of this.... XDDDDDDD

I thought the Sea Witch was already dead. And you fought her ghost in the starting zone? I mean you also find her in the night elf zone.

All I saw Dar'Khan as when i was leveling my B-elf Rogue was just some annoying NPC that was protected and I couldn't kill...