Just because something is "made in America" does not mean its automatically a better quality. Youd be hard pressed to say that any domestic brand of screwdrivers will beat out Wera. I would say the same for a large amount of Knipex tools as well. A premium tool is a premium tool because of manufacturing, not because of where its made.
@@emm_gee1294 The big dumb problem with the ford company Is not where or what country they assembled they cars, The big problem of ford are the dummy’s american engineers.😂
All my fords trucks & SUV have damn issues, that stupid rear window defrost seems to break down on every ford I own, thank god these are only my beater/work vehicles.
This sounds like the argument I have with the other guy on my crew. We're electricians, I'm team red, he's team yellow. We throw shots at each other's tools on a daily basis, but we often use whichever tool is most readily available. Most brands get the job done, but we tool guys treat our brands like sports teams. I love my Milwaukee linemans, dikes and needlenose; he loves his Klein branded hand tools. We both use Channelock brand channelocks, we both use Fatmax tapes (he converted me from Milwaukee). We just bicker about some of our hand tools and all of our power tools.
Last folding ruler i got was Stanley, glass fiber reinforced for electricians, it's made in Italy , San Donato , part of Milano . I am on Makita with cordless , corded tool brand don't matter, it's how the tool feels to use and has it the features needed.
I've been a black & yellow guy for the last 30-years (18v/7.2v and now 20v/60v FLEX). My boys went red when they started in the trades, because (understandably) that's what most of the guys they work with use. Today, I was at one of my boy's houses and he put me to work on a little project. First time I've used a red tool (M18 drill and M12 driver). I was impressed, they felt pretty good. Only thing I didn't like was the electronic reverse button on the top of the M12 driver. A mechanical switch is much more intuitive, convenient, and feels more natural. I guess it might just be what you're used to. Wouldn't have been disappointed if I had those in my boxes, but not enough of a difference to make me switch.
I got to disagree with Jimmy with the oscillating tool. The only thing that the Dewalt has going for it is the blade change. The Dewalt cuts slower, gets hot in the hand, and is louder.
@jporreca32 I own both of these oscillating tools. I use Dewalt, If I have a bunch of little jobs where I change out blades frequently. For longer jobs, Milwaukee due to vibration dampering is way better
Jimmy is right. The oscillating tool comparison is not even close. The fact that the DeWalt has a trigger immediately takes it below the Milwaukee. You can only lock the trigger on at the highest speed 👎 There's not even a need to compare anything else at that point. DeWalt blade change is for sure better and easier, imo, though
Your both wrong. The best oscillating tool made is the Fein hands down every site I'm on people ask to use it over there oscillating tools after seeing me use it.
Disagree with the Dewalt Multi-tool, agree with Vince, had the Dewalt returned it, the M12 Fuel is much quieter and my arm doesn't feel like it's getting shocked constantly while I'm using it unlike the dewalt and it's vibration.
Only have M12. Down sides: variable speed gets changed accidentally due to placement on tools When using sanding attachment, larger batteries keep tool from being flush to surface. And you’ll want to use the larger battery. Everything else mentioned, agreed.
The quick blade change leaves more slop between the tool and the blade. Which leads to more vibrations. There's a reason almost every company outside of DeWalt uses a similar blade change on multitools
The M18 just cuts better. I have both and the Milwaukee one is amazing. Probably one of the best tools they make. I do like the DeWalt 54v circular saw tho. That thing is mental
I like my M12 fuel oscillating tool. The dewalt definitely has an easier blade change system, but it buzzes my whole arm every time I use it. I’d choose Flex over dewalt because you can easily change the star lock blade, you get lower vibration, and it’s a 24v max so it is more powerful.
I am neck deep committed to Packout but, James brought up (at 1:50) the very thing that bothers me about Packout that none of the competitors have exploited. The bottom box access sucks. This needs to be accessible without having to unstack everything above it. They need to design a rolling box that has one large drawer.
When it comes to Cut-Off Tools, the DeWALT absolutely slaps where as the Milwaukee one just doesn't have that same power and gets bogged down easily. DeWALT Compact impact wrenches also kind of dominate the Compact class of cordless impact wrenches and their new Mid-Torque is a beast, both are better than their milwaukee counterparts. When it comes to Drills/Hammer Drills the new Gen 4 Milwaukee is great, however the FLEX is quite a bit more powerful and the Makita 40V XGT 1/2" Hammer Drill/Driver is really nice as well. Flex's new Table Saws that are coming out with the AC Cord option and loads of features are going to outshine other cordless table saws. Last but not least, circular saws. I can't wait to try the new FUEL 6-1/2" Circular Saw from Milwaukee, but with saws like the Makita 40V XGT Rear Handle, the FLEX Rear Handle w/ 10.0Ah Stacked Lithium, Metabo's new rear Handle (which is super light), Milwaukee has been a little bit left behind. Also, one quick mention: Sanders. Cordless ones in general are not great compared to high end corded sanders, but the Milwaukee model is like 10 years old and is still brushed, etc. It's been left in the dust if you know what i mean /pun intended
Milwaukee wins on the fuel oscillating multi tools, the pliers, and the rear handle fuel circ saw. I do agree that mitre saws and table saws would be better if they were dual-power (battery and 120V). Milwaukee has done this with other tools like the telescoping lights...
No they don't. Dewalts more robust more features yeah don't have as much power but you rear handed circular saw can't even compete with dewalts. Don't even get me started about their cheap ass pliers. Straight fuckin junk.
Milwaukee Wins on rear handke saw. Dewalt rear handle saw 60v is the most powerful on the market. Test have been done between the both and the milwaukee just bogged tf down.
@@BrendaGraham-t6bReal-world though, if you are pushing a saw so hard to bog it down, how straight is your cut? What is the quality left by pushing the blade so fast? As long as power is decent, I care more about balance, accuracy, adjustability, squareness, etc. Power isn't everything.
@@BrendaGraham-t6bIt's more about runtime with having a cord. Modern brushless motors are pretty much powerful /fast/torquey enough. Table saws and mitre saws can see a lot of use on a project/jobsite.
I love my M12 tools, they are some of the best around, but I will say that Ryobi has gotten a piece of my wallet for awhile now. Just because they make those homeowner tools that no one else seems to want to make. (Like these trade oriented big brands). For pete's sake, you know what got me into the Ryobi one+ line? A pool vacuum, and then from there, Ryobi has just impressed me with those one of a kind offerings. That being said, I will still continue to buy Milwaukee (especially M12) because it's my goto brand. Also, as a side note, I would never buy a tape measure that doesn't have markings on the underside as well. That's a feature I love.
Same here....I work with Milwaukee, I'm not leaving them......but I have Ryobi because of the specialty niche' stuff they make that no one else makes. It's nice to be able to grab stuff for $50 on sale sometimes. Like I said, I won't use their power tools, but the weird tools are nice.
And packout makes the box that the whole front opens .so it will take a saw in it. I wish that the millwaukee duel power lights ,also would be great for mitersaws in duel power. The bigger stationary tools could be duel power.
I got rid of my Dewalt osculating tool because it was underpowered stalled out on plunge cuts all the time and vibrated like crazy. This guy is obviously just a Milwaukee hater.
I’m not sure about all the handtools, and all the electrician and plumbers tools but as a carpenter for 38 years, DeWalt is clearly better than Milwaukee.
Vince, respect for showcasing other brands that may not be your favorite, but you are still wiling to give an open alternate opinion. I’ve got both red and yellow tools, and for some things I prefer each color. Kudos for not being blindly loyal, or blindly hating a brand like your counterpart on an alternate channel does with Makita…..😂😂😂😂😂
Dude was like I haven't even used it but it's better than packout ain't no way. Plus that 12v multi tool is a beast don't let its size fool you. I have 18v too don't even use it just a back up.
As a handyman, my go-to hammer is a DeWalt 12oz. Milwaukee makes one now and the handle is not as comfortable (tried it at HD). The DeWalt handle is more roundwd, fuller in the hollow of the hand, whereas the Milwaukee is flatter/thinner and feels more like an edge going into your hand.
Milwaukee Stud Magnetic & Klein for tape measures. Love the DeWalt miter saw and oscillating tool. The Milwaukee M12 Hammer drill and their old, brushed, right angle have saved the day recently. A Kobalt 24V right angle impact wrench and a Skil Right Angle impact driver have also been bacon savers. The point is that, if you do this work daily, it seems the best option is to just accept multiple colors and go. Also, I love my Boss Titanium hammer. The near-zero bounce back of titanium is a serious wrist-saver. Lastly, my electrical load out is 99% Klein. Plumbing load out is Klein, Ridgid, Wright, and ESAB. Many colors, many jobs. Rock on, Vince!
Tough Built has already acknowledged the issue with the larger boxes stacking and has said they will change the lid design of smaller boxes and also make an adapter plate for the boxes already sold
I have the milwaukee corded saw "6955-20 12" Dual-Bevel Sliding Compound Miter Saw offers best in class accuracy, power and ease of use. " , you are going to have to get pretty picky to point out what that yellow thing can do better, albeit I really dont like the stand for it from Milwaukee
@@gregorsamsa1364 consensus is meaningless. a lot of folks can be wrong about something. it was a consensus that the earth was flat and that the sun revolved around the earth.
DEWALT 12 IN 60 V CORDLESS SAW FOR THE WIN BY FAR AND U CAN CLIP IN PACK TO RUN CORDED ALSO ... 2 60 V BATTERIES THE THING IS A BEAST AS GOOD AS PLUGGING IT IN
They never will cause milwaukee trashy. They only pushed cordless cause they was desperate and other companies right now are making them look like a joke. Between dewalt 60v/20 and flex 24line.
The locking clips on the dealt pack out box snaped several days after purchas they are B&D grade quality with a yellow name attached lucky for me this box is already ware it was going for the most part
8:07 I’m a Dewalt junkie! I’ve used a lot of other brands but Dewalt and Milwaukee are my favorites, Dewalt is my go to choice but anytime I grab a tape measure I go for the Milwaukee tape every time!
I really appreciate this video. You can bring this video up, and show it the guys, before you watch the game, argue amongst yourselves about which make is actually better.... Argue about which tool brands weren't included in discussion are actually better than any of the tools discussed... Great fun. Have another beer, the game or the race is about to start, who's gonna win, what portion of the pot.😅🤓🤠😎
I am not nearly brand obsessed as most. I have a large collection of Milwaukee and Snap On tools. At work I gave up on Milwaukee cordless impact wrenches, between the ergonomics and most time I was grabbing my air tool version because the Milwaukee's torque is subpar and the awkward design made it tough to fit in some areas. I now have Snap On cordless impact wrenches, 3/8 and 1/2 mid torque. I use the crap out of the 3/8. Both Snap On's have less wrist jerk at the initial hit of the trigger vs Milwaukee. I also believe Snap On's lights are a little better light than Milwaukee's. I do use Komelon tape measures over everyone else, price and the high vis color( I used to have a habit of losing tape measures).
Great arguments from this new guy!! However, if Klein has been making that pair of pliers for so much longer, shouldn't they be more consistent than milwaukee who's been making them a couple of years?
Thank you very much, differing opinions on a regular basis would be a great weekly video,much appreciated 👏🇨🇦. P.S. battery based tools should be for working in extreme locations, not when you have a large tool 2 feet from an outlet and lastly, Milwaukee is getting annoying with the new battery models every two weeks. All my opinions.
Hay you guys have any problems with the Milwaukee jobsite radio and their 18v tools ? I hand their stuff braking on me . Started with their radio working and not wot and its sat in the same Spot for years. Send their impact driver, the standard one one out then their drill went out. The funniest part is my rigid tools are still running when the Milwaukee’s won’t. I don’t know if they’ve had a bad running tools this past year cause I’ve lost the radio, the drill and an impact on Bart the same time.
I had the m12 oscillating tool (got stolen) and the it blew that exact DeWalt out of the water (power) there's an automatic setting (m12) that detects what level of speed that it needs. There's a bunch of speed settings then there's the automatic. I do like the blade switch on the DeWalt but it's not worth the silly button, I'll take the on/off switch with crazy power all day!!
I don't live in America, but I'd buy Estwing all day. Dad was a carpenter and gave away all his tools to us kids as he got older. His Estwing must have been 50 years old and the only tool he didn't let go of.
I have mostly Milwaukee and Makita (although I have plenty of Dewalt, too). If I could only pick one 18v line it would be Makita. If I could only have one 12v line it would be Milwaukee.
I own almost every brand of tool, except for makita. Not that I have anything against makita. They rarely have deals on their tools. And that's what I normally pick up is tools on sell. I mostly own Milwaukee(m12,m18), Bosch(12v,18v), Flex and some Dewalt. I like the Flex Angle grinders and die grinders because no upcharge for variable speed.
Toughbuilt acknowledged the oversight with the big box on small box issue and have a plate to make it work and as i understand it are redesigning future stock to work as intended.
The best oscillating tool out there is Fein. I've had mine for a few years now and I still can't find anything that I don't like about it. Plus, Fein is the original manufacturer of the oscillating tool platform. The quick change out for DeWalt is cool, but stupid. I can only imagine how irritating it would be that the blade gets pinched somehow and the best thing you can do to get it out is detaching the tool from the blade. Sorry, but I would rather have that knowledge in knowing that my blade will never come out for any reason. If i didn't have my Fein I would go with Milwaukee.
Ive got the Dewalt double bevel 12 inch cordless takes 2 60 volt batteries or u can use cord . With the 2 60 v it is as powerful as running the cord...awesome saw i use that one fore trim only and my cord only 12 in. Double for my cut all beater saw
“Made in U.S.A with globally sourced materials” is a massive diversion. The product comes mostly put together and is either put together in the U.S by a machine, or very quickly by a person.
Hey Guys, Great stuff as usual! 1st things 1st, as a fellow GC from Cali, I LOOOOOVE my Packout system, HANDS DOWN! Been using them since 2019. Do they have some things they can improve on? DEFINITELY!! But who doesn't! I've rolled over, dropped from truck and up high (roofs etc.) and they take the beating! I even forgot about my coffee mug on roof of my truck, it rolled in the street and barely a scratch-red paint didn't even chip! I do have some DeWalt 2.0 CUZ I'm reasonable. But if it wasn't for their cheaper 2 drawer option, I wouldn't! I have Klein's backpack (mod box version) and may try flex and tough built to be fair. Second, I do wish Milwaukee made their oscillating tool w/quick release like DeWalt & Makita. BUT I love that the 12V and 18V tool DON'T leave my hands vibrating or numb feeling like the DeWalt and others I've used do. 3rd, the episode was DeWalt V. Milwaukee BUT I love my 36V Makita Circ saw! BUTTER! I just found out that they have both a left and right sight model, so being a lefty, I will now own one of each! Side note: Packout Cabinet (48-22-8445) is a "reaching for your circ saw" solution. You can stack it on your rolling Packout or use the excuse to get either dolly system, so you can keep it a bottom box. Keep up the great stuff!
I do like milwaukee and dewalt and own some stuff but did you try made in Germany? Miter from Bosch is supreme stuff Oszilating multitool also Bosch or Fein Pliers and co. of course knipex or maybe wiha Try some festool or Mafell it is expensive but dang it is good
I liked the original ToughSystem better. ToughSystem 3.0 would be nice. ToughSystem 2.0 is nice with the lid clips that you can add smaller cases. I loved the original ToughSystem medium case that came with a hammer drill, an impact driver, 2 5ah batteries, and charger. The case had pull down lidded trays, missing from the same in 2.0. I loved the large box of the original where you don't lose tool space with the 2.0 wheel able bottom box. The original ToughSystem has a decent dolly that will lock all original ToughSystem cases to the dolly.
The Other tool that M18 really is inferior to is the Metabo HPT framers. The M18 is heavier, louder, clicks and clacks on a lot of resets, (making it feel/sound cheap and clunky). The shot recoil is also very sharp and harsh, harder on the user, and making it almost impossible to tell if you miss a rafter. We do roofing and mostly nail down entire plywood decks. Sometimes rafters are crooked, being able to feel and hear that you are hitting is nice. In the 6 years we have used them and the Hundreds of thousands of shots fired in the 5 Metabos, we have had less warranty issues then the several thousand fired in the two M18’s that we had for 6 months. No comparison in them, not even CLOSE.
As a Milwaukee consumer, I’ve always said Dewalt makes better saw! They have better miter saws and table saws. Dewalt also sells a better 3” cut off tool by far!
the 12v oscillating tool doesnt have a huge battery in the way. I can put a tiny battery in it to get places that massive 18v cant do, same reason I run a 12v 3/8 impact wrench/gun
they actually do have something you can store your circular saw in without unstacking the top boxes not a drawer system but just as good in my opinion the pack out cabinet, bust that circular saw out on him next time he wants to compare that inferior system to packout. 💪🏼
I love buying American… and I’ve got a very expensive Snapon tool box full of American made tools to prove it. But that Milwaukee tape measure is second to NONE! In my opinion it’s the best product in their entire product line…
The best oscillating multi tool is the company that invented it,Fein. The best mitre saw is festool. Most of Stanley, Stanley fatmax, DeWalt stuff is made in Belgium and Croatia.
Cordless has its place, and its limits. I don't like cordless for high amp draw tools like big saws, big hammer drills, large angle grinders. When my guys are installing machines, setting large concrete anchors all day long, they got no time for charging or lugging a shit ton of batteries with them. Low kerf circular cordless for some light duty cutting is fine, but still like cords for full size circulars. Right tool for the right job... Maybe Left/Right line of sight depends on what you're used to/grew up with...butttttt....right line for me is like driving on the wrong side of the street in some bass-ackwards country where they drive on the left side of the street!!!
