been using mini-pcs since the HP mini G1's a decade ago...and to be honest, the Asrock Deskmeet is a better option. 4 full size RAM slots (128GB or 192GB in the new x600!!), Desktop CPU, and a PCIe slot that can handle a video card or 10/25/40/100GB networking) in a 8 liter size. just tune the power settings up and down depending on the project and how much horsepower you want/need at the time. minis have too many limitations and lack expandability. Resale value is better as well because you can part it out and sell as you upgrade.
Interesting take. I had no awareness of the asrock deskmeet platform. Gonna check it out! Initial browsing is showing barebones x300w are widely available.
@@Airbag888 You will be using a desktop processor, so it will be higher, but that is the trade off for performance, expandability, resale value, etc...just keep in mind, the number one on this list (and widely considered the best mini-pc for homelabs; the MS-01) has an idle power consumption of 25-29 Watts as tested by Serve The Home: "Idle power consumption was higher than the average mini PC. We saw around 25-29W at idle on our test system.The system under load would spin up to around 115W for ~45 seconds before pushing back down to 90-95W and run at that level consistently."
@@druxpack8531 in case you did not know it's possible to hit single digits on a decent processor. The minisforum is nice but maybe needs better power management in their drivers and also offer mid spec cpus. Lookup wolfgang's channel
This looks great. My main gripe with mini PCs was lack of space for storage. Desktop components mean I already have most components to populate the x300 system.
I've been using the Minisforum UM790 Pro now for over a year. It's been a great low wattage bastion box/mini server performer. The only gripe with this unit is the CPU fan has been documented to go out, but it's easy to replace and cheaply.
As energy efficiency is a key parameter, what are the typical average electricity consumption figures of each mini PC reviewed in this video? Meaning the wattage cosnumed when perdoming standard home assistant tasks, like sensor data collection; not during boot-up or other rare tasks.
I find these Mini PC videos interesting and after watching it I still feel like I made a great choice in selecting a Protectli Vault. These are fantastic for a home lab server running Proxmox. I have two sets of three. One for my home network and one for a lab network. Each set clustered together. 100% fan-less and no noise coming from them. They now have some with 10G networking if that is desired. For those still using 1G network switches, the 6 ports allow for different ports on different VLANS or even creating some redundancy plus faster speeds by bonding them together.
I've just purchased a barebones AOOSTAR R7 2 Bay 40T NAS Storage AMD Ryzen 7 5700U Mini PC(8C/16T; up to 4.3GHz, they are currently selling for US$299! I plan to put 64Gb (2xSO-DIMM), a 2Tb M.2, 4Tb M.2 and two Exos 18Gb's into it. I want a basic NAS and would like to try Proxmox for the first time.
How did you go with this? Were you able to get transcoding going OK in VMs using that ATI GPU? Are you worried about the reviews that mention any constant load overheats?
Can you do a video on what to do when issues arise from using these Intel hybrid CPUs with the performance and efficiency cores? In particular how do these CPUs affect the use of Proxmox?
I been using a reServer i5 1135G7 with 64gb of ram, 1TB NVME for the main drive, 4TB HDD and a 500GB SSD. I have proxmox on it and i use it for hosting game servers and some development things. I dont remember what model but i also have a reComputer with 8gb of ram that i just use for my plex server and NAS. Its got a 6TB and an 8TB HDD connected to it.
I think that the only rule is to use a Ryzen and not an Intel with efficient and performance core, so that it is possible to use ESXi but have also stable performance.
How many people still use ESXi for their home server? Almost everyone I know uses proxmox and it works fine with the P and E cores. Most of my devices are Ryzen, but I've got two reasonably powerful mini PCs with 12th and 13th gen i9s and they haven't given me any grief in the 6 months I've had them.
Got my self a used dell 3070, with i5-9500t and 256gb nvme disc, and 8gb of ram. ca $100. Just going to add more ram. and a ssd for storage. and i have a perfect proxmox server with NAS for my use
I cannot find a mini pc with access to the pci-e bus; I want to attach 4-8 SSD’s/NVme’s to make a NAS server and configure the HDD to raid, can you help?
@scampiml1985 - So sorry on that, didn't catch this before uploading, it looks like something happened with the audio right at the end during upload....well at least it is just me signing off :)
The home server should serve the entire house. Control the survelance cameras, turn on the outside lights, call the police in case of breakin. I need a way to put I/O pins on the machine. How do I do that??
@tvojejbabkydedko, thanks for the comment. There is no issue running ESXi on the MS-01 as long as you run the ESXi boot parameter for non uniform processors. See my review video here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-T229S9gh2x8.html
@theroboticscodedepot7736 as I mentioned at the end of the video, the mini pcs in my list are only ones I have tried. I dont' want to give recommendations on any hardware I haven't tried out personally.