Top 5 Most Annoying Factions (Rome Total War) 

You know, the best counter to missile cavalry is archers. Massed archers can bring down horse archers very quickly, as the horse is a big easy target.

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Pre reform cavalry in a nutshell haha

Nice, someone who understands the true power of cavalry. : )

Cavalry in this game is so OP

I think it's less that they're troops are good and more that there are four very powerful Roman factions with decent economies and the freedom to focus on separate factions all at once, on top of having really good units

Maybe you never fought them deep into a game when they develop all kind of units.. they will have archers and onagres that will destroy you from afar and fear your men.. and if they have pretorian or urban cohort good luck routing them with your cavalry

giovanni ferro no I play all my campaigns on VH/VH and have fought post Marian Roman armies. Of course I didn't mean that you can just begin the battle by charging into them, I'm just saying that you can quite easily take out their archers and even their cav (unless they have praetorian cav) with your cavalry and then just rear charge the infantry once they've engaged with your front line

Yes I do hate you. Leave a Dislike and never return XD I agree it is fun to use at times against the AI, but having used against you is a crime. : )

Just wait til he plays Attila

I weirdly don't mind them as much in Attila, mostly because I can allow my troops to form that defensive formation where they are almost immune to missile fire, but I get what you mean : )

Yeah me too, regular horse archers early game, but getting the cataphract archers quickly as nothing beats them. faster cavalry = murderizing in melee Infantry = shoot them then charge other horse archers = this armour sure is convenient right now chariots = shoot them first before they reach you, good thing they're weak to missiles foot archers = CHAAAARGE They looked at a game of rock paper scissors and just flipped it off

Byz can do that as well. It's great.

XD How about, Top 5 Most Annoying Unit Rosters? That seems closer : ) Also, how else do you expect me to judge the faction, the faction colour annoys me, the sound of their name annoys me? ; )

@@MelkorGG well for example I think the egyptians are quite annoying because by they time you reach them they've got quite a large empire which allows them to field far larger armies. Conquering them can be a bit of a drag too given their wonder. Gaul's cities don't provide much money so although the first victories aren't that hard fighting them wil either be slow or will drain your resources. The germanic tribes can be annoying given all the ambushes their terrain provides (also I don't like forest fights). I'm not saying that this is how it should be but these arguments do cover more than one unit. Cheers mate!

This and 100% this. Early game pirates are the bane of my existence, you need to soak so much money into a fleet just to deal with them, that it’s not funny

@@Old_Guard2 eh just save before you send out the fleet.if you get sunk reload and go another way.i always load my army on one ship

shane app I play mobile unfortunately

@@Old_Guard2 oh it doesnt let you save and reload saves if you mess up?

shane app no

In order to avoid this, when you need an emergency "spears down" you press Stop then immediately the spears down command. If the unit is facing the enemy, they will get some spears down, it won't be pretty but it will do.

They have the best Army if you don't consider the Roman factions but they have a bad starting point, being surrounded by enemies.

They would probably make the top 5 if anyone ever fought against them late game, but that just doesn't happen. I wonder if you can manage to get the AI seleucids big by playing a faction close to them. Like playing as Egypt and not attacking them, maybe even leave Sidon and Jerusalem free for them to take. Idk, they would probably still get crushed by Armenia, Pontus, Parthia and the greeks but it'd be an interesting experiment.

howie lowis interestingly enough, in my Macedonian campaign they are doing surprisingly well. The reason for this might be that Pontus attacked me early on, losing most of their army, then naturally Armenia decided to conquer weakened Pontus, after that Egypt tried to invade my territories in Asia Minor so basically most Eastern powers were fighting either me or among themselves, not bothering with the Seleucids.

Get missiles.

Fax but to ensure that wouldn’t happen while playing the Seleucid’s I would just have my elephants charge first then my and cav and then a line of chariots and when my infantry met up with the aforementioned units I’d have my elephants retreat. Also anything fire related i ran from

Agreed

You see, I LOVED the Seleucid campaign for that very reason. It was so fun to save them from the "dogpile" so to speak! Plus your early units are absolutely TERRIBLE. The way I did it was thus: 1. Build up a strong defensive line against Egypt, as they are obviously your greatest foe, so you have to play slowly, steadily and VERY CAREFULLY against them. 2. Play a war of attrition against Pontus and Armenia to the North. Their forces can catch you off guard if you're not careful, so you have to be prepared for strikes out of the blue and gradually wear them down/ capture their cities in the mountains. 3. Take out Parthia as QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. They are an absolute thorn in your back, so doing so will free you of your other dangerous enemy quickly, and will make sure you are safe on one side. 4. Don't declare war on the Greek cities until you know you're very safe/ they're nearly dead themselves. Their cities in Asia Minor are quite hard to take, and you need trade partners anyway. 5. When the Parthians (in Persia) are down, take your troops to help against Egypt and in the North. 6. Once you get access to Archers, Phalanx and Silver Shield Pikemen and the better Cavalry Units (plus Elephants), you are going to absolutely WHIP Egypt's ass! I absolutely relish the moment you capture the Lighthouse of Alexandria and the Pyramids! So satisfying. 7. So yeah, follow these steps and you will have the WHOLE of the Middle East under your control! And the most incredible, diverse roster of units in the whole game, as well as Armoured Elephants and Silver Shield Legionaries! 8. Then it's just the slow, steady slog against the Romans...

Don't forget about Cataphracts too. I'm playing Seleucids now and the thought of crushing Egypt is what's keeping me sane early game lol.

Someday I will. I agree the Sassanids are certainly extremly annoying to deal with : )

Yeah people tend to overestimate Parthia whereas actually Armenia's roster a lot more useful (Cat Archer's basically a tank in the game and Heavy Spearmen spam is better than Eastern Spearmen spam)...

I usually used some cav, pretending to attack them to draw their fire, then turn and attack their infantry flank instead. A lot of times the enemy missile cav will use this to charge into your back. Once they are in melee combat they die quickly and if your cav managed to rout the charged infantry quickly, they will swiftly deal with those pesky horsearchers.

It is possible if you have a mod. It's discussed here: www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?128276-Hotseat-mode-in-Rome Although I imagine it to be very buggy. Either way, good luck : )

I hear you can get them if there is a city in Italy that gets 24000 population.

Why spend all your money on the 2 most disappointing units in the game? just some dismounted knights for a siege and all will fall.

It is the Barbarian Theme, not a remix. Here is where I found it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-12HXnYNA6Cg.html The part you are looking for starts at 47:03 : )

@@MelkorGG Thanks!

I hate using missile units, I find them dull watch, personally. And so most of my armies are cav and infantry heavy, which do not do good vs chariots. : )

@@MelkorGG Ah, so it a problem of mentality then. Just bring a few archers and target explicitly anything ranged and mounted while your infantry does it job/screens them for a bit until you've softened the enemy up enough.

@Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa That's why I said I super disagree, it's not that I don't believe he can have an opinion, I just disagree.

Egypt is pretty ridiculous because of all the chariots they can raise. They’re an obviously hard faction to put down. Pontus surprised me as they were hard to put down. They had incredibly strong chariot & skirmisher units. Their infantry had spair numbers.

I'm destroying them atm as macedon

Seemingly endless Egyptian armies rolling west from Siwa, over and over against my Scipii. I know what you mean.

@@Anaris10 I used to fight them playing by Brutii, the most interesting campaign out of 3 factions.

Correct, they are certainly annoying. They could easily have made it onto this list, but they are usually destroyed, mostly, by the time I get there, unless I play as Carthage. : ) Which factions did I miss?

Numidia don't get elephants in their normal unit roster. They do have access to the war elephant mercenaries but their economy is so bad they often can't get them

Well in my latest cathage campaign those sneakys bastards took my capital by force

Spain and Thrace

Yes! :D Spain and Thrace, neither are particularly annoying though.

Easy factions. Can remove them blindfolded : )

XD I just realised what you meant. Yes, I forgot to add them into the survey. However, I am sure that I did, I must just not have saved : )

Northern England : )

Just Single Player Campaign. I never do multiplayer so would not know for that : )

Well they suck early game but I honestly classify them as the "waking the sleeping dragon" faction. If you allow them to "wake up" (reach their late game units) they become one of the most powerful factions in the game. You probably know that though.

No mods has ever had them survive for me.ive tried killing Egypt for them giving the insane money with cheats.they just lose

@@courtlycard6556 you need to invest heavily in pikes, and play very defensively in the beginning. You need their late game strength to overcome the egyptians. Also missile support is needed. But it all depends on how heavily you are focused on by the other factions..

@@jonasjanssens25 oh I do fine playing them I meant left to the ai I've never seen them live once which is disappointing

@@courtlycard6556 yeah that's true.. they always fall as one of the first..

Flaxmen right?

*Underrated

At the time, that was the only one that could run withotu lag. Bad laptop.