I had to recheck the date of this review - it's so out of date with absolutely no mention of thermoformed paddles - what about Six Zero, Legacy Pro and Vatic Pro??? Also, as previously mentioned, Joola appears to be using cheap raw carbon. I have had a Hyperion CFS for 5 months and it has lost most of the spin it had.
More than that, delamination is another issue, early delamination is obviously manufacturing error, yet Joola doesn't stand behind its warranty policy.
You beat me to it! I could have sworn this video was made in the Fall of 2022. There are a ton of Gen2 RCF paddles which have more spin than those on this list. Time to update!
@@DanBlake3rd I just played with my Legacy Pro yesterday for the first time. Spin is right up there with my CRBN1, but I found it to be a touch less soft for control shots which will take some getting used to. It is more powerful though, although I never had difficulty generating power.
Yes, Joola Hyperion paddle does give a decent spin when new, but surface carbon fiber peel off very early after purchase. I have a 14 mm Joola Hyperion paddle, issues of surface carbon fiber peel-off and delamination start very early after purchase, and Joola said it is normal. Unless you are wealthy enough to change paddles every few months, stay away from Joola paddles.
@@danpiedra3910 I heard about that too, the thing is Joola has no intention to stand behind its warranty Policy. Joola could have just recall the paddles and at least give existing owner a coupon to purchase a new one.
I’d lose grit after 2 months and had to repeatedly purchase. Now using thermoformed paddles like Vatic, Legacy etc. The Toray carbon fiber’s quality is also known for it’s durability and lasting longer w incredible spin.
@@braddaddis371 Your comment is consistent with what I am hearing about Joola. It just goes to show you what a name like Ben John's can do to a brand. People should research materials and technology being used in paddles to make a more informed decision.
Bought a Selkirk Power Air Invicta and loved it -- for about 2 months. By that time the sweet spot had completely smoothed out and lost its reliable spin. Talked to a Selkirk rep and was told that yeah, they do that, and so I nixed buying another because obviously it too would wear out fast.
Just picked up your channel. Great comparisons. You have to include the Electrum e, Engage Pursuit MX6.0 , six zero double black diamond and the Selkirk vanguard labs 003. These are absolute Mack trucks in spin with untouchable kick serves. The Joola Hyperion sells because BJ uses it. Fact is, the grit is gone after a month. Maybe the new Perseus model corrected that. My year old Electrum and CRBN 1 have more spin than my 3mo old Joola. Looking forward to more reviews.
@@RacketsandRunnersPickleball Looking at Vatic Pro paddles, esp. the soon-to-drop Achemy. Do you think these paddles (and the alchemy in particular) provide as much spin as the vanguard invikta power air?
@@RacketsandRunnersPickleball Great to hear! Really looking forward to the Double Black Diamond review! Playing with a year old (6-8 hours/week) Hyperion CFS 16, would like a bit more dinking control and any added spin would be awesome!
Agree with all the comments here. All the new thermoformed carbon fiber paddles have way better spin and power than the paddles discussed in this video. I especially like the Legacy Pro and the CRBN1X. Six Zero, Vatic and Ronbus are also worth checking out, but my favorite paddle is currently the Legacy Pro. I don't know about the durability of the surface yet, because I've only had the paddle for 2 weeks. Time will tell. My original CRBN1 has maintained good spin after playing for 6 months, but it doesn't even compare with the Legacy Pro's spin action and controlled power. My friend's Jolla Hyperion Ben Johns paddle lost it's spin potential within a couple of months. Unless you're sponsored by Joola and get free new paddles for every match you play (like Ben Johns), it's an exorbitant cost to have to buy a new paddle every few months. Maybe Joola resolved the broken handle, delamination, and surface non-durability issues on their Perseus paddle set to release in June. I guess we'll find out later this year. Cheers.
They break because the thermoformed carbon doesn't wrap the handle. And I'm not sure how all these big brand names are going to compete with brands like Vatic, The A11N Zenith C7 and Hudef Viva Pro. All thermoformed, 3000k or T700 carbon surface and all under $130..
I see you were holding a Selkirk Air DEMO. I found a guy selling a DEMO model. Are they the exact same model, just used as a DEMO for people to try out, so probably a bit used ? but still a usable paddle ? THanks
to me, look at double black diamond from Aus, or the Legacy, or The Vatican. wait you prolly dont sell those, sorry, or Gear box has a program were you can pick 5 paddles and put up a small deposit and they will send you a postage paid return box plus the five paddles you can try. keep the ones ya like and return the othere with your pay ment for the others.. in thier line up would definatley try the 16mm, the cx 14 and any of hte power ones.
@@RacketsandRunnersPickleball grit yes and somethingn called dwell time. or the amount of time the ball hangs on surface of paddle. sort of like a soft cushion thats able to impart spin depending on the directional glance of the blow.
With the caveat of the paaddles YOU Carry, I would not say those are the 5 spinniest paddles in the market. Absolutely 5 spinniest that you carry, may be. But apart from the one with kevlar, I would not use any of those other 4 for the want of spin. But ya for overall play Joola would definitely come in the picture always along with Ronbus pulsar, Six Zer o and vatic flash. These 3 have literally given the paddle technology a new height that the bigger brands like Joola and Selkirk have not managed to do.
Disagree. Joola does not mention the brand of carbon fiber used. If they used high-end carbon fiber they would be advertising it. Also, the latest thermal formed paddle are reviewed with more spin than the Selkirk or Joola. AND, Joola is made in China :( not a good thing. Are they good paddles, yes, for sure, but as of 2023 they are no longer the top. Just my thoughts
