Top 5 States for Off-Grid Living: no rules 

I appreciate your input. I try to do all of the research I possibly can but sometimes miss some thing. I appreciate you pointing it out.

You answered your own question in the last line of your post. He didn't include Montana because it's been a destination for the Cali-crats and this drove up prices.

Yup this is happening in a lot of places including Texas where I live

"TN requires permits." It depends on your county and what you will do for sewage disposal. I built an off-grid cabin in a county that doesn't care and has no codes one way or another, but the state of TN does have a septic permit requirement, and the power company will only connect with this being in place first. The only other permit would be for electrical, which is also a state requirement if you wire the whole house for 240/120 VAC. (Obviously, this isn't "off-grid.") True off-grid with composting toilets could get away with zero permits, or if you did guerilla systems with 240/120 VAC in the whole house and septic. (Of course, you would need to wire it and dig the holes for septic. No professional would touch it.) This can be done in rural areas on enough land that no one would question your setup. In a nutshell, if you built "off-grid" but had the money to install a complete solar system, with the whole house inverter, and had a well-drilled and you wanted regular flush toilets, then you have two permit requirements in many counties, not just mine. It would be best if you researched which counties are like mine. Some counties, like Williamson, have permits out of the wazoo. Then, if you live within the city limits of Brentwood, Franklin (where I used to live), Spring Hill, and Nolensville, among others, you get it about as bad as California. You need a permit for just about everything.

yes permit requirements are the number one barrier to off-grid living so they need to be prioritized as the only limited factor to live off grid. When you say "no building codes" you probably mean the codes are not enforced locally but they still exist at the state level. Do you have a building PERMIT for your "dwelling" so you get a street address as a year-round permanent dwelling?

You are exactly right. It is a hard work life every single day.

@@MJ-ge6jz 👑👑👑ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE LEARNED IN MY 66 YEARS OF LIVING IS THAT EVEN THOUGH SOMETHING IS CONSIDERED TO BE HARD WORK THE MORE THAT YOU ENJOY IT THE LESS THAT IT SEEMS TO BE HARD WORK,

Many people just don’t realize that being a jack of all trades is very much necessity. You will learn quickly. Especially when Murphy visits multiple time in a single week. It will make you question your decisions.

@donhagerty5669 yeah, I think I've learned the same lesson. Thank you for your comment.

@stuartrinker I agree with you. It's also a really good feeling to be able to fix things and not ask for help. Good for you.

I'm totally with you. Thanks for your comment.

@scootover7 I think you are right about this...

@@SurvivalCaveFood "my political party is the LEAVE ME ALONE OR ILL USE MY FIST TO F*** YOU UPIST PARTY" ~Pete Santilli, 2016~

@SaveYourBrainKillTV I understand your feelings. I love your channel name. Thanks for sharing

That is great information. I was wondering why so few people move there. Thanks for your comment!

Hey that's a great way to do it, lol

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Jeepers! It is now 0325 on a Monday, and that's the funniest thing I'll read all day.

OMG that is so funny. I love it.

@sophholl3782 I'm glad you enjoyed it and thanks for being part of the family.

I went to High school in Memphis, it wasn't very friendly either, lol

I thought you were pretty friendly, when I lived in Galatin...

I try to be friendly even when others are not

How about send me some of Dat Moonshine from Tennessee !😅 .

If I had some of that good stuff, I would send it to your brother

@debragriffith6628 Yeah I get what you're saying. We live in Texas and a lot of people from California have moved here and our taxes on real estate has really gone up. Fortunately we have no state tax and Tennessee doesn't either but I think they get us on sales tax and property tax. Thanks for your comment!

I know right? We hasve way too many rules in America now. Thank you for your comment!

Well actually it is in the US. NO really I speak the truth. Clinton did this while he was in office. However it's up to the state and county to uphold those laws. I'm home joke with this next part. And it really is a keys to finding that key off grid location. Some counties don't care what you do as long as you pay your property tax. You can grow poppys and they wouldn't care. Look for very poor counties. The down side to poor counties. The poorer they are. The harder it is to find work. And the less you will be paid if you find work. However. There are always off grid self jobs to earn money. If you are in a place that has trees. You have two great choices. Cutting firewood and logging. Both can make you money. And firewood. You can never have enough to sell. Mining of gems and gold. Is the best. For reasons I can't get into. Let's just say you can become very wealthy and have no income tax. If you trade / barter for goods. It's not income..as long as you don't turn in to US Dollars. Mine 200 ounces of gold? Trade for a tractor, truck, cows, pigs, ECT.... You income is ZERO. And yes this 100% legal. Same goes for firewood. Gems, or whatever. I will tell you right now. If you need help. Pay me in gold. And I will help. I don't mean that gold plated necklace you have. But real gold in dust pickers, bullion or coin. And that for almost any of the 48. I also trade labor for other things. Just ask and say what you have In return. I am willing to trade land for labor. I have 10 acres 100 miles east of El Paso. I will trade. For labor and / or goods. Land is good for off grid .

@IvanhoeWolfe-zn6fc I think living off-gris is way too hard for most people nowadays. It is a physically challenging life each and every day. Most people are way too lazy to live that lifestyle.

@@IvanhoeWolfe-zn6fc where?

@@herrent Where the 10 acres I have for sale? If this is your question. Let me know when you will be at the Love's truck stop just east of El Paso Texas. And I will take you to property.

@paultaylor6396 Do you actually enjoy it or do you stay there for other reasons? I’m curious why people chose to live there.

Yes i agree there are varying degrees of "off-grid". Thanks for your comment

That's frigin awesome

This sounds good, but it will be more when they learn all you own as they tax everything you own every year. My dad bought an airplane in another state and kept it there, but the state found out and taxed him heavily, back taxes for several year, plus an extra penalty. I grew up there, but left and only go back to visit.

Well, he must have a lot of money to go on an airplane. Lol but I get it. We are taxed too much.

I'm rural vacant but my land value has doubled already in seven years. So don't be surprised if you get a big increase in land value despite not having any real property valve as a structure.

Yeah, and a problem with that is the taxes keep going up. Unless you sell it, there's no benefit to your property value going up.

@user-fd7vt5zx7q I've heard it's good but why do you like it?

@pelican5077 it does sound awesome. What do you do when you have to have the boat pulled out for maintenance? Where do you put all of your belongings?

@@SurvivalCaveFood With the exception of a small storage unit in MI where we have some family heirlooms we wanted to keep, everything we own is on the boat. When we haul out we live on the boat in the boatyard. Living on the hard, is the term of art. It’s not fun, up and down the ladder, fridge doesn’t work, no AC, stray dogs running around, but it motivates one to get the work done to get floating again. We’ve never had to haul out for any reasons other than paint, prop grease, change zincs. The latter two can be done on a ‘short haul’ where they leave the boat in the slings for a couple hours and the put you right back in. Paint depends on whether you have to sand, and/or repair any blisters. In 2016 we spent a month on the hard. There was a hurricane too so that kind of caused some delay. But in 2020 all we did was light sand and paint and it was 4 days. We are closing in on 70 so we don’t know how many more years we will continue. At least a couple more. The biggest issue is we have no idea what to do next. We’ve been sailing together since 1979, so it’s pretty much been the focus of our lives. And my wife grew up on a boat. So it’s really been a way of life for her for 7 decades.

Well it sounds like you’ve lived an awesome life. At least when you go back to land you’ll have great memories and stories to tell. You’re winning!

Lived on a 37 sail boat for two years the hardest two years in my life but I did learn how to restore it from top to bottom inside and out fiberglass work to electrical to complete Perkins rebuild and fishing isn't going to save you..storms just got lucky out running them..maybe with two people who know exactly what to expect it's easier..

@@stateofoklahomashallnotbei5469A priceless experience is my bet on how you’ll consider it as you move along. My wife grew up on a boat. She and I have been sailing together since 1980. As I said, and as you learned first hand, it’s not for the feint of heart. And despite how it’s mostly portrayed on YT, it’s not an easy way to live. Most who try it, don’t last and boatyards all over the world are filled with dreams that died. But you hit it perfectly, when you said if you know what to expect it might work. Thanks for your story!

I understand what you're saying, but this was supposed to be just an overview of off grid living for those who are just starting to investigate it. Going to an off grid life is very complicated and knowing the laws of a particular area is very detailed. I really do appreciate your comment and maybe I will make more that are more detailed in the future. Have a great day.

You are correct. It's just hard to get everything in one video. I also live in Texas.

that's a very good point. Thank you for your input.

Yeah I don’t think I’m tough enough for Alaska. Lol

@mikedavis3421 sounds like you made the right choice. The cost and the mountains has to be really awesome.

@MrDilley777 I have to admit that that place is too harsh for me

Arizon...desert land...high heat, probably can't get a well..NOPE !

@@bennym1956 It's high desert More than possible to grow your own food... Yup there is high heat for a while in the summer... More than livable, I know from experience... As for well many off grid homesteaders have wells, others have big water tanks and collect enough water during monsoon to last the year, if they run out early It's cheap to have water delivered up to a thousand gallons at a time... It's not as miserable as people seem to think, that term desert scares them... They think of huge sand dunes and little to no plants... The high desert is not like that... I do understand it's not for everyone, but It's still an awesome place to build off grid with a huge community of people ready willing and able to help... And very little snow in the winter, maybe and inch or two every once in a while that's almost always gone by noon...

That's great information. Some people don't mind a little bit of heat and that would be perfect for them.

I agree with what you're saying and I don't think I would like it however, there are those people who like it freezing cold, and those people who love it hot. You just gotta find the right mix of what you like and what you don't like. It's all a matter of that give and take.

Everyone is moving to Arizona yes yes

I've heard it is beautiful there but it can be a hard life, right?

What about canada. Why is all the land between Alaska and Vancouver empty?

@xisigma I feel like there's a lot of opportunity in Canada, but most people don't know anything about it

@lindaparker1043 those are all good suggestions. Thank you for your comment.

yup you're on your way. Good for you. It's a great life!

@sophholl3782 I like that idea. You can't get in trouble if you don't get caught..thanks for sharing

I agree with you and we live in Texas. Where do you live?

@@SurvivalCaveFood So do you have power. ? 2.2 million w/o power to start with, was down to 1.1 million...... Geez, everything is bigger in Texas including power outages ! lol

Yeah, I'm just north of Austin and we didn't even get any rain from that.

as long as you don't believe in abrupt global warming then you should be fine. Otherwise the north will be warm soon just simply by the power of mass belief (or possibly two hundred years of science).

I totally agree with you

Thanks I'll keep that in mind in the future videos. I appreciate your comment.

@johnleca wow that seems kinda risky.

I 100% agree with you. Too cold and harsh for me. I live in Texas now, how about you?

@@SurvivalCaveFood How about the NO POWER in Texas right now !!?? Summer or winter.....no power. Or get flooded along the coast like now !

I would definitely say there's no perfect place, but I will tell you that in Texas we don't have state taxes and I really like that

Growing season may be short but the extra sunlight grows the best vegetables in the world, soooo…. What city did you live in??

North Carolina is great. 4 even seasons and a mild winter! Screw 7 months of winter!

@lululangley89 Thanks for adding some really good information. Doing this can help a lot of people. Thank you

Thank you for adding that and I agree they should check it out. I actually went to high school in Memphis Tennessee and that was a tough part of town.

Not if you build it on site, if you have it trucked in it falls under the mobile home guidelines so do yourself a favor and buy lumber and not a ready built

@geoffreymills9932 yes correct according to the video of a young couple who was going through this!, iam in alabama, stick built my tiny home. I don't know all the info on their situation, just wanted to make aware. Thanks for your response 👍. I wonder if it is anchored down how it would help?

Great suggestions, appreciate your input

That's really cool that you built your own. Congratulations!

Really good information. I think they all have their pluses and minuses. Thanks for your comment!

@japguns1022 Sounds like a beautiful life!

@SurvivalCaveFood It can be, but it has its struggles. I live about 50 miles from the nearest gas station and any stores. I have some stories about some struggles.

@japguns1022 I would love to hear some of your stories!

Really good advice, thanks for sharing

No dont come to the Ozarks! its already being flooded by folks that wanna live off grid then bail because of the bugs (that can kill you) or severely restrict your diet unless your a vegan.

You are exactly right living off grid is not something must people can do. It's a lot of work and every single day. Thanks for your comment.

Alaska is a very tough environment. I've talked to many people who've lived there and it takes a special kind of person to do it. You were right about the growing season and solar panels. They don't work so well. Thanks for your comment.

The growing season is short if you count calendar days. But if you count hours of daylight you'll see the growing season is long enough to grow whatever you want. Plants don't need sleep. Just food and water. As mentioned, it is a very hostile environment to those who have only lived in cities. There are two seasons. Winter and mosquito. Nearly everything wild there will kill you and eat you. Humans are not at the top of the food chain there, they're a part of it somewhere in the middle. I have lived there twice. I wish I had never left. If you are truly off grid, where services that are paid for with tax revenue are not available, then your property tax is $0.00. No matter what you build, shanty or mansion. You have to be your own first responder. An example of just how big and remote most of Alaska is; The State Troopers own more airplanes than police cruisers, and if you cut Alaska into 4 equal pieces Texas would be the 5th largest state.

@MrLgmurphysr I totally agree with you, and I don't think most people could do it.

Yeah I get that....I live in Texas and it snows here constantly, high taxes and the BBQ is the worst in America...

lol!

@@SurvivalCaveFood And the power outages, ain't they awesome in Texas !

They do suck. There's never power here, lol

lol same for Oklahoma!

@Eddyvnhln5150 Great information thanks!

Yeah I've heard a few people say this. Do you live there now?

All you need is water here in Aridzona.

@troyb.4101 sounds good to me

@@SurvivalCaveFood If you live in the San Pedro river basin area, the water is an average of 20 foot below the surface. I have irrigation wells that can pump 500 gallons per minute. On the PZ ranch historic place in AZ. they have wells that pump 1280 gallons per minute. Look up the San Pedro river , and the PZ ranch.

@troyb.4101 It sounds like you are lucky to be where you are. This is great information. Thanks for your comment!

Yeah I guess there are always trade offs. I lived in Tennessee once but I live in Memphis and went to High School there. If you know anything about Memphis, it's a very dangerous place. Thanks for your comment...

That is interesting information. Thank you for sharing.

I agree that those are very good picks. I'm in Texas because of the lack of state taxes. But it certainly doesn't have the room of Wyoming or Montana. Thank you for your comment.

Yeah....land locked.... forget about the coastline equal to the entire coastline of the lower 48.

I'm just north of Austin, so I don't have any coastline either. But we do have a few lakes.

Wyoming and Montana are the landlocked states not Alaska

Landlocked? It's surrounded by water on 3 of it's 4 sides.

I do like Tennessee. I went ti high school in Memphis. Have you been there?

@SurvivalCaveFood I've spent very little time in Tennessee; I did spend more than 25 years in Virginia; I assume that TN is similar insofar as climate & vegetation are concerned. (And I've watched dozens upon dozens of videos on TN).

Very interesting. I lived in Virginia also in the tidewater area. Chesapeake, Norfolk and Virginia Beach. I was an EMT on the Virginia Beach rescue squad.

We are the same age and I understand what you are saying about freedomS. I moved to Texas in 2021 and I love it here. It gets really hot in the ummer but it's a free state with no state tax. Thanks for your comment

@lululangley89 Yeah, that definitely could be a problem for some folks. Thanks for your comment

I think you have some really good pics there. I'm in Texas and we really enjoy that but the states you mentioned are really good too!

@flashpan26 It sounded like you had a great plan. I'm sorry this happened to you. aDo you plan on building an other one somewhere else? If so, where? Thanks for sharing...

@@SurvivalCaveFood I am not sure what I am going to do yet it depends on if I can sell the property with out giving it away and if trump gets back in I will just have to see

@flashpan26 I'm sure it will work out. Best of luck to you in selling it. Thanks so much for contributing here on this channel. I appreciate you.

@douglasvick414 What country is that?

I know what you mean. Ilive in Texas and it's the same way here. Thanks for your comment!

@@SurvivalCaveFood I know you definitely get it! Texas is putting up the good fight! God speed, and prayers your way! btw.. just Subscribed to your channel!

BS. I have family in Tenn, they don't give a crap about where they're from. Just if your good people or not

@@rediron44Oh it matters alright implants are poking the bear. And you have family in, not from Tn😂

No one wants HELLIFORNIA satans headquarters moving to there state!!!

@IvanhoeWolfe-zn6fc lol you're funny

@@SurvivalCaveFood lol. Id rather they went there then here. Plus you know if I tell them to they won't do it. And all but one is true. They can figure out which is a lie. Here is a clue " Where did you go to school"? That ain't college they are asking about. It high school. If it's not someplace they know. You are in trouble. And if it is. It's a form of economic prejudice. I don't know why they even ask. Because they knew if you are inbred and related to them. Before they even ask.

@IvanhoeWolfe-zn6fc very interesting points

It sounds like you said yourself up pretty well. Congratulations. Not too many people do that.

@user-pu2ho4ip3d It sounds like yoiu have a really good plan. Have you started this?

I get what you're saying. I went to high school in Memphis Tennessee and I can tell you that's not a very friendly place. Each state has its pros and cons and you just gotta weigh out. What is most important to you. I'm now in Texas and really do like it. Thanks for your comment. It really does help.

@@SurvivalCaveFood The first time I visited Memphis from Cape Girardeau was 1968 and it was a beautiful tree lined city. Today, if I go to Memphis for any reason I carry a gun.

Yep I graduated from Overton high school in 1976 people had guns at that time in school

@@SurvivalCaveFood I graduated from Cape Central in 1964, and it was not unusual for guys, and maybe girls, to have a pickup parked in the parking lot with a 22 or larger rifle on a rack in the back window. I doubt they were loaded, but the stranger thing is that they never got stolen or broke into. I am amazed at how quickly this country has gone down in so many ways...

I get what you're saying. I went to high school in Dunellen Florida, and it was nothing but Farms around. It wasn't unusual to see pick up trucks with a gun racks and to even see John Deere tractors being driven to school. But then again this was in the 70s.

Actually, Indiana is a beautiful state and a place that a lot of people don't realize what it has to offer. Thanks for your comment.

@@SurvivalCaveFood Indiana has some heavily populated areas, but also some serious wilderness, especially areas in and close to Hoosier National Forest, and the government is significantly less evil than many other places.

I've always found it interesting how government changes from state to state. It seems like it should be the same but I know there is local government and there's Federal. Thank you for your comment. It is appreciated.

@@SurvivalCaveFood I'm not familiar with all the homesteading law in Indiana. I only know my own experience. I've had a camper on a piece of land for over a year and no one has bothered me. Also put in a small septic with no hassles. This is, however in a wooded area that is difficult to see from the road. It may just be lack of enforcement, so I don't want to give anyone legal advice, just my personal experience.

Thanks for sharing that's pretty cool. I think it's better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission. Cheers.

@plalelal Yup it was hard to narrow this down but that is a good addition!

Yup. most people would not want to do this for very long! Thanks for your comment

I'd just sleep in my nice cool dark basement.

@michaelb.8953 sounds like you've got a good plan. Good for you.

Those are really good points. Thank for your input!

I'm so sorry that you went through that. We live in Texas also but we were on a cruise with that storm hit. We did find a good organic pest control company because we had some ants when we first moved here in 2021. I hope you get that under control and thanks for your comment and sharing. What part of Texas do you live in, we are in North Austin about 20 miles outside of Austin

Why desert. For the exact reasons you don't like it. This keeps people way. Your biggest concern is water right? Well that's easy to fix. You can buy bulk water cheap. Last I know it was 3 cent a gallon You can catch rain water. Yes very rare. But I have lived for years on just rain water In SHTF. You can come get water from one of my well. Yes it true. In SHTF. I am infact taking 1 to 3 water wells. And if someone buys the land. You pump the water.and haul it. You just have to pump me an equal amount. On the other hand. If you help. Build the rig. Help drill the wells ( yours and mine) have $15000 cash. You can have a well. I promise we will hit water. I have 3 years experience drilling wells.

I'm going to be very honest here. I am out of gas. No motivation. I have everything I need. If I need money. I take off for a few days. Go to one of my claims. Grab some paydirt. Bring it back. Process it And get what I want. If I found someone that needed to come up with some money. Id let you tag alone as long as you did 50% of the work. Using my equipment. In a way I've offered this for a couple years I've been off grid since December 2012. Everything is done now that I want. Combined I work about a month a year. Rest of the time . I play videogames or other useless things. Yes if you want to be materialists. By all means you can be. Oh yeah. If you think you will off grid once you get caught up. It will never happen. Go off grid. Then Eliminate your debt. Lol. There is a reason I will not sell my land on payments. A very smart person would buy 5 tr oz of gold on credit. Trade it to me for the 10 acres. And then ask how to wipe that out. Lol. Or even better buy over 30 troy ounces. Give me 5 for my land. And use the rest for your new land. Making a off grid padise. And ask me how to wipe it out. Btw if that is your intention. Let me know as you are buying the land. As there is a secret when filing the deed. I really don't want that 10 acres. But in turn I'm not going to give it away so someone can sell it. Oh. You may want to know what the taxes are on the $10 acres. Less then $55 a year. And if you are a vet. ZERO. BUT for vet status you have to live on the land. I don't live on it. That's why I have to pay the $53 or whatever a year on it. My 630 acres I pay zero in property tax.

On another hand. Give me a troy ounces of gold. And I will tell you how to get 10-50 acres for free.

@IvanhoeWolfe-zn6fc The land sounds beautiful!

@IvanhoeWolfe-zn6fc These are great ideas

These are great observations. I appreciate your comment.

@Sheepdog1314 I agree with you. Off-grid living is not an easy life and you are constantly working just to have the things you need to exist. Thanks for your comment!

You have a very interesting story. I love how you went into detail about how you planned everything out. I hope your new baby is doing fine and that you guys like your new home. Thanks for being part of the channel and thank you for your comment.

I just hope you're not allergic to cedar trees, cause Tennessee is overgrown with 'em.

Yup I lived in Memphis in high school and remember this

Thank you for your input. I'll look at that.

Oh wow I like that. I'll do one on it! Thanks for the idea...

This is really cool that you're doing this. Living totally off. Grid is very difficult and not comfortable a hybrid situation like what you've done is the perfect situation. Thank you for sharing in the comments.

@@SurvivalCaveFood I was raised this way, as a kid we had 3 acres of garden and orchard, raised meat, made tinctures, foraged for mushrooms etc. always fixed and built our own things as my dad worked construction and my uncle's were mechanics. I never understood the idea not doing something for myself

you are very lucky to have learned all those things. I'm sure they've helped you in life quite a bit. Most people nowadays don't know how to do anything for themselves.

Thank you so much

wow, this is a lot of good information. Sounds like you've been doing this for a while. That should be helpful to a lot of people reading these comments. Thank you so much for posting it.

@@SurvivalCaveFood If you would like to be a part of change, consider helping me open-source info for people to start energy and food self-sufficient communities. By combining hyper-efficient building techniques with solar, batteries and Rocket Stoves, we could help start new communities. Thoughts?

I'd be happy to help. What can I do for you?

​@scottc8152 you could try green architecture. It has a lot of passive principles built into the design process- proper window placement, tree placement, passive cooling (sun heats), energy neutral, thermal mass placement, etc. It can branch into a self-sufficiency, such as having so low of energy use solar is not a problem. You are looking into historic construction methods like Cobb, and modifying based on climate The main challenge is working with building codes and permits, but if that's not a problem....do your homework and go

@michaelb.8953 this is really good information and I appreciate you sharing it. Thank you.

Yes there are pluses and minuses for every location. Thanks for your input...

When the big one comes more will suffer than just Missouri and Tennessee.

I do agree that there's going to be a lot of people in a lot of states that are gonna be in a lot of trouble. Thanks again.

@jaytillquist5369 I totally agree. I'm not tough enough to live there! lol

Yeah, I do have to agree with you on that. I've lived in Tennessee and I live in Texas now, but Alaska would be way too cold and dark for me.

Chicken🐔

Yeah, I guess I am checking to live in Alaska.

@paultaylor8396 Sounds like you've lived a great life and I have a feeling that special woman will find you. Thanks so much for sharing...

Filipina

@plalelal from what I heard they make really good wives

Yeah AK is tough for solar. Thanks for your comment

I know you're right about this. My wife's washer fluid was not coming out and we took it to a mechanic and found out that a squirrel had gotten underneath her hood and was chewing all the hoses. We also found somebody else in the neighborhood where squirrels made a nest in their engine and it ate through the wiring harness and it was a job that cost over $3000 to fix.

@SurvivalCaveFood There's a lot to consider if you're moving off grid. I've been off grid twice and currently moving around the forest and state parks. I'm taking a few months to recharge my batteries.

If you have lived off grid, and you're moving around Forest and State Parks, you have to be a very tough person to do that. I don't think a lot of people actually comprehend that. Congratulations

@SurvivalCaveFood to be fair I'm living out of an old camp trailer. One thing I didn't consider was my future neighbors, I was a mile out of town the first time 50 miles to the big little town. I spent 8yrs in a true felony flat. The second time one of the people that owned property near me sold off a lot of 5acre plot and pretty much ruined things. I'm close to 70 and not sure if I can handle living off grid again. I enjoyed it, 4500ft the first time and 3400ft the second. My advice to people would be to hang out at the local Cafe and get an idea of what the people are like before you put any money down.

I think you make a really good point because you're still gonna have to deal with other people even living off grid. Rarely does somebody live off grid and never see anyone. Thanks for your comment.

@puddwacker2562 that’s great information to know. This could help others who are considering a move there.

@@SurvivalCaveFood if they are interested , kentucky , where i am now is a similar in sceneary but a whole lot friendlier for off grid living. I have been here for some years now and i like it a lot better the tenn.

@puddwacker2562 That is some good information. Why do you like Kentucky?

@@SurvivalCaveFood after moving here i found locals friendly and helpful, i also looked into state laws about off grid living and found that there are very very few. Most of kentucky seems back water but the people are more intelegent then the stario type. The cost of living is a lot cheeper then Tenn. Unless you have disabled elders or very young children you dont have to have power or water as per the state and county laws for most of kentucky.

@puddwacker2662 this shed some light on both of those states. I’m sure people can use this information. Thank you.

@lloydalexander4531 I know Alaska weather can be tough and the lack of sun can also wear you. You sound like a tough person.

Why do you like it so much?

by "choose" do you mean you got a permanent dwelling permit after having a sewage permit accepted? Not much choice in that. Vermont is trying to get a composting toilet law passed so the septic permit allows people to legally compost year-round. Otherwise you're suppose to "bury" it in soil which is not composting.

That's some very interesting information about Vermont. What do you think that is?

@@SurvivalCaveFood what do I think a composting toilet is? I just bought one from Vermont - the company is called "Toilets For People" they have a website. The owner is an environmental engineer who does nonprofit work installing composting toilets that he designed - into third world areas.

That's some really cool stuff. Thank you so much for sharing. That will help other people.

@tclodfelter8789 Yup there are still some great spots. Where are you now?

@@SurvivalCaveFood Southern Ohio

@tclodfelter8789 yep Ohio is a beautiful state. I love the skyline chili.

@@SurvivalCaveFood I'm in the rolling hills going into Kentucky.. it's absolutely gorgeous. I would have loved to been able to see this are 300 years ago!???

@tclodfelter8789 I absolutely bet that would be really cool

Thanks for your question but I'm really not sure what you're asking

@@SurvivalCaveFood I'm sorry, I just realized that is a picture of your girlfriend on the thumbnail. My apologies again.

@J_D_Rambro ok beautiful state but why do you like it?

@@SurvivalCaveFood Wide open spaces, hunting and fishing. Easy to get lost when you want to be alone. Tons of places to shoot long range. Off grid makes it a very good state, you can also find small towns that are like Mayberry (which I love). It should have made top 5, but truthfully it should be second to Alaska.

J_D_Rambro This sounds beautiful. I’ve never been there, but it makes me wanna go.

@@SurvivalCaveFood Please do and check out these national parks...Glacier, Waterton (Glacier's sister park in Canada), and Yellowstone. Stay away from the big cities for the best fishing and camping. Check out flathead lake and Fort Peck.

@J_D_Rambro I've not got it on my list. Thanks

Yes I agree it's much more difficult than most people realize. Often times we will romanticize it as being free and doing as you want but the problem is you've got to work all the time. I'm sure it's fine for some people but for the majority of people they can't do it

It's not that expensive, it really isn't... in fact, the more your homestead grows, the cheaper it becomes :) Our grocery bill now has been reduced to just dairy, coffee and sometimes fish :) And you can easily get started on less than $20k - we had only $14k, but it was enough to buy the land, a house (42' rv) and a small solar setup :)

@AgnesMariaL that is very inspiring. I'm sure a lot of people would love to have what you do. Fancy house with a big mortgage doesn't mean much.

I totally get what you're saying. I actually live in Texas, which is a pretty free state but it doesn't get real cold for the most part. I like the warmth.

Yep cabin fever can set in lol I like 4 seasons country Wva is my pick!!!

Yes that is actually a beautiful state that gets a bad rap

@hatcherhollerhoodlum4418 I live in WV, but for the record income isn't high here, jobs don't pay great and schools suck. Besides all that it's great. I moved to Florida and loved it as well, but I missed the mountains. People may think they don't have regulations here for off grid, but that is not entirely true. It depends on the area really. Peaceful is what it truly is though so it's give n take around different corners is probably best way to put it.

Yeah, I agree with you. You have to weigh out all the positives and negatives and decide what's most important to you. Thanks for your comment.

Yes, I hear Montana is great. It's just difficult. Include all the different states. Thanks for your comment.

@largemarge1603 thanks for your comment. I do have a short intro for those people who don't know about off-grid living, thanks

I understand what you're saying. The further you go off grid the more difficult life can be though. Thanks for your comment.

@stevesworldisnumber1 I get what you are saying. People think they will just save money which is true BUT it costs a ton to get started

Yeah progress isn't always good. Thanks for your comment...

Sorry it was too loud. I have adjusted it in future videos. Thanks for your input.

@BulletproofPastor Yes you are correct. I also live in Texas because of the freedom it allows. Thanks so much for your comment!

Great information thank you for sharing

This is categorically false. There are many studies out there that have done this comparison and the break even point for solar panels when it comes to the energy required to produce them is well short of the lifespan of the panel.

I've heard about studies like that too. I've just never seen one if you have a link to one feel free to post it.

Yeah, the truth is all land that we see right now has been taken from somebody else. Living off grid is a very tough way to go. Thanks for your comment.

John Locke wrote the constitutions for the Carolinas stating no contracts can be made with the native indians because they do not "improve" their land. The definition of "sovereignty" requires "improving" the land with development. That's why it's illegal to live on your land in a tent year-round.

That's very important and I think you make some really good points. It's definitely something to think about. Thank you for your comment.

YUP, That is why I say Do NOT GIVE UP YOR GUNS. A country with out guns are a easy take over.

@cdevpayne I totally agree with you. We've seen it happen many other countries. We can't let it happen here.

Well there ya go, that's a reason. I live in Texas and everything is legal EXCEPT pot. LOL thanks for your comment

This is true. It really matters how far off the grid you really want to be. The further off grid you are the more difficult life can be. Thanks for your comment.

@@SurvivalCaveFood Absolutely! I love this subject. I am preparing to rebuild society after the collapse. Surviving it is a given at this point.

@busker153 it sounds like you have a really good plan. I'm sure you'll do well.

@bearcreekgirl6967 Lol, I get it. We are the same way here in Texas!

@deans2790 Thanks for your inout. I'll keep that in mind

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I know what you mean. I think it has to do with self reliance and saving money. Thanks for your comment...

I dislike the EPA because it is a bloated bureaucracy, NOT because of its mission. I love renewable energy, but am opposed to it being compelled by government. While the environmental movement is admirable, it needs to sell it to the public instead of forcing it.

@lorkainenkingg8497 I love your reasoning and logic, and I totally agree with you. Thank you for your input.

Most of us love solar we just hate inefficiency, middle -men, and high taxes. It's different if you do it yourself.

@mrjon75 Solar has made it more accessible for many but it is still a tough life

Thank you, yes I've changed that in future videos. I appreciate your input.

yes, Alabama is a beautiful state. Also, I checked out your channel and you have a beautiful voice and I love your music. Keep it up. Thanks for your comment.

Best college football to, roll tide

I totally agree with you

@Maxid1 I get your point, but it's tough to find "Free" land nowadays

@@SurvivalCaveFood so why are people calling it what it isn't?

@Maxid1 I get what you're saying, but I guess it's as close as you can get to homesteading nowadays. There really isn't any homesteading because all the land is spoken for. I totally get your point though and I appreciate your comment.

You are absolutely right and I think the world gets scarier every day. Thanks for your post.

@SurvivalCaveFood so very true!, rather take my chance in woods!, I used to be a people person, but people ruined that!

I totally understand what you are saying. Thanks for your input.

Less scary the more you get accustomed to it :)

@user-sy3ec5zx9b yeah, I will say as I get older, I have less tolerance for a lot of people. I think I think like you.

Are you talking about Alaska?

@@SurvivalCaveFood What you talking about Willis? Alaska is hot as hell.

Lol, yeeeeeah

@@SurvivalCaveFood Here’s some basic logic, hopefully you’ll figure it out. If someone makes a list of five states & someone resopnds with “too cold”, what would the responder be talking about. 1, 2, 3, 4 or those 5 states. Come on now.

Thanks so much. While looking at comments I don't want to take you wrong. Thanks for being part of the conversation.

@andrewpattison3716 I know right? Well I'm probably like you and not doing it!