Well not only was the video not very funny, people actually do these things. I’ve seen multiple segments with people going 50 mph up a drawbridge, or 80 mph down a 45.
First of all it wasn't really funny to begin with. Second, people would actually do something like draft behind a car, or similar, with is incredibly obnoxious.
I got a local KOM on a twisty descent in NZ taken away from me by a German guy on a virtual reality trainer! Was able to flag it course. But must be quite handy being able to pedal continually around a sharp hairpin corner at 250W's and not have to worry about line, balance or tyre grip :/
I've been ridding hard this summer, dropped 30 lbs and I've got a good amount of power now IMO. So I'm starting to pound up shorter hills and see how I rank on Strava. I averaged just over 15 mph yesterday and felt pretty solid on that attempt. I look up the record, and this chubby cheek'd guy has the KOM at 30 mph up the same hill. 30 mph on this hill would be unsafe even in a car. No freaking way. Then I see on the same ride, he set another KOM in a Sprint on a flat area a couple miles away. These people forgetting to turn their app off or stop their ride are ruining legit people's attempts at stardom. There's several people who averaged around 20 mph, so that, while very impressive I can believe, but 30 mph of a hill that hits 13%, no chance.
Easiest way to get a KOM or QOM is find a section of road without a segment, create the segment yourself, ride it and become the KOM of your new segment. Until someone else rides it of course. But at least you were King or Queen for one day. Lol
I got a friend that created a segment at a retirement community where he works. Just one access point with security guards making sure his KOM stays safe
youd have to be a bit dull if you think people who are willing to steal strava segments by driving would only realise this after watching a youtube video. Plenty of people did it anyway mate get a grip
i just simply explained why the thumbs down... i love the video i find it very funny... i just answered Kumars question...... i am not one to give thumbs down
I think people do #4 and #5 a lot. I have ridden a lot of segments, especially in SoCal, that there is NO way the climbing speeds are that fast. I'm not the absolute BEST climber, but I am no hack and I thought "Holy $*(& people are fast down here" when I first got there. Then on some of the climbs I got passed by people (on road and MTB) on E-bikes and that was the first time I really realized people were probably cheating. Pisses me off that people would do that. SO I've just started using STRAVA to compare my own rides, and I don't care anymore about KOM/QOM speeds.
Tailwind isn’t cheating. It isn’t a cheat the 99.99% of the time when I’m headed into a 23mph block headwind and Strava calculates my power at 95friggin Watts!!
Unless you've got power meter data to support the KoM then it's BS. I've given up being arsed about them and just use Strava as a training record and to see my power curve & HR.
Erik Knudsen I believe tailwind KOM's are legit. Around here the wind blows in all directions, sometimes a tailwind both ways on an out and back, mostly for me it's a tailwind out,and I don't realize it, thinking I'm really impressed with my strength untill I made the turn into the wind. Hahahaha all's good though. I'm old, and ride vintage"heavy" steel.
For climbing you can just join Zwift. Sit in your living room in Florida or Kansas and your weekly club leaderboard will show that you have climbed huge mountains all week. Heck, the biggest fake climb will show up as real in your highest climb statistic for as long as you are on Strava.
Hilarious, at least you had your hellmut on in your car when you took the KOM...the Wednesday wind at 3:00 am tailwind has been used around these parts... seriously.
This just shows that obsessively going for a KOM is stupid because it's way too easy to cheat and a lot of it is down to luck. Try to improve your personal times instead of going after a number
I just started cycling due to lock down ! Relatively un fit ,50 year old male and about 2 stone overweight ! Cycle 1000 km over 2 months on a 5 year old boardman hybrid weighing 11 kg and found that women's QOM are easily achievable ! So my aim to get fit is beat local QOM times ! Men's time are just not achieveble with out years of training !
And how does one tell the difference between waiting for a tail wind and just getting a tail wind? I mean in respect of reporting someone for cheating.
It's astonishing the lengths some of our local E bikers go to try to convince people they were on a regular bike. This includes uploading pictures of non E bikes with their ride and straight up lying about it in the comments. What satisfaction do they get from this?
I have a E-mountain bike and use Strava E-bike section. I have a few off road KOM Strava times. What I noticed thought is when I've been on the roads is that there is a shit load of E-mountain bikes that's need chipped to go faster or have super powerful Chinese motors. The KOMs are unbeatable. 34.4 mph up a hill that the original KOM was 16.2mph...36mph where it's a 20 and 30mph zone and the KOM was originally 22mph. Now that got to be cheaters beating cheaters in ebiker haters eyes especially when the person who has took every road KOM is really the QOM...yes a women.
come on, do it the right and honorable way - DOPE! Like Armstrong, Landis, Hamilton, Ricco, Ullrich... Valverde, Wiggins or Froome... and you can even have a TUE if you do your KOM on TUEsday!
The give away is the top speed and going up hills faster. I go my flybys and look at there times which funnily enough are more realistic. Sad state of affairs that people resort to cheating. The KOM list usually tells me who's cheating when you see ridiculous times. I don't follow these people for a reason.
Every single day I get at least one " uh oh " message from Strava with people using some of these methods in this vid or someone using a poor GPS device, usually someone else will flag it, theres probably 50 KOMS I have forgotten about that have been stolen from me and I don't have the heart to flag them, it's really only the long climbs in the mountains that I care about and people don't really cheat on those.
So I don't understand, if you drive the segment, do you drive a whole loop at low speed? I mean if someone checks your whole ride and see that you just had a KOM/QOM for just a a segment and that's your entire ride, wouldn't that look like a cheat?
Ok so the video was for fun.... i am actually launching an investigation cause there is a dude on the leaderboard who got 20 thousand kilometers in 8 hours which is actually insane. I wish to ensure that justice is served 😤
Heh, I don't think waiting for the wind is necessarily "cheating", it's a valid strategy. Also do you think it's cheating when a female drafts male cyclists to get a QOM?
Seems like Strava should filter out those without both a HR monitor and PM. I have also lost KOM’s by group riders of three or more. Strava can easily filter that out too. End of the day it really doesn’t matter
This is funny but in real life we have someone who's left their Garmin on and got a swag of KOMs that have been flagged but are still on the leaderboard after three months (60 km/h up an 800 metre long 7% incline is a dead giveaway).
I wish I could afford to keep throwing my GPS down the road. guess there are sad people who take strava and KOM's far too seriously. they need to chill out and realise there are far more Important things in life.
I’ve spotted a new form of cheating: “average watts”. Unfit fat cyclists posting 250 watts average power over 25 mile cycle runs. No chance given freewheeling is included in the garmin average power calculation. The riders display a gravel bike or cheap road bike, but they must be using E-bikes to achieve these pro-level watts. By contrast I see the best riders reporting 170-190 average watts making these blatant 250 watts cheats even more obvious.
This is serious stuff in my town. You dont just get flagged here you are confronted and interrogated. Reminds me of dogs pissing against a tree marking their territory.
that was one the funniest video you guys ever made.i got a question, i am #6 on this segment and i went out today and busted my ass to take my age group kom 1 and it didn't even give me credit, why is this.
I do have a KOM that is way better than anything else I have ever done, but it was during a real run with no cheating. I feel like it must be wrong in some way - should I keep it?
At first glance, I was appalled by this video description. Then when the wind segment came on, I was guilty by association on this particular subtopic since I often think about doing it on days where it’s just too windy to get out there on the bike. Fortunately or unfortunately, I’m just not that motivated (lazy) to see it through. BTW, since most top 10 segments were set at the same time & date on a group ride, is this even “ honest”? Also, this reminds me of the time my wife & I were on a Sunday drive in a cycling-centric region of central California where I was at the time, very “deep in the weeds” about road cycling and it’s subculture there. We stopped at this little 19th century saloon & general store, and to much surprise & hilarity, I see one of the local guys at a nearby turnoff which leads to a short but nasty steep climb: a very sought after segment that is circumvented by gravel just as you proceed onto the turnoff causing riders to slow down before the climb, sweeping the gravel and scooping it up into a five gallon bucket. He ignored me, but I knew damned well what he was doing. From that day on I’d call him out in front of his pack, “hey, you forgot your broom today!” 🤣
some idiots in my country have KOM in running at 50 km/h and strava company thinks that a normal speed for humans, i can't report it cause their activity is hidden
Got smashed off the bike by a car . The bike was in bits and taken home by my wife with Garmin still running . Took several KOM while in casualty Hospital waiting to be stitched up . Lol
Problem is what is cheating? Watch pros ride a mountain and you'll see sacrificial riders that almost die on the mountain to protect their leader up some serious climbs. It's almost as cheating as motor-pacing. I'm sure I could beat my PRs if I could convince Landa or Thomas to ride just in front of me most or all of the way up.
