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Top 8 Coolest Rubber Tire Metro Systems in the World 

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Rubber tire metros present benefits and drawbacks yet they can be found in different parts of the world. What do you think of these systems and should more adopt this technology?
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@metropod
@metropod 3 года назад
Disadvantage 5. often requires a Steel Wheel/Steel Rail anyway to switch tracks and function as a backup in case of a flat tire.
@Tobu9105F
@Tobu9105F 3 года назад
but there is a pro. easier maintenance for the bogeys
@holofernesz
@holofernesz 3 года назад
@@Tobu9105F Unfortunately not entirely true. The tires require more frequent changes. Basically you have to machine steels wheels much less.
@johnmoore9862
@johnmoore9862 3 года назад
@@holofernesz. On a standard steel wheel (P8) I’m using just as an example there is a minimum wear groove, any wear close to this indication line & there will not be enough material left on the wheel to machine on the profile lathe.
@Federico_Cahis
@Federico_Cahis 3 года назад
Not a disadvantage.
@s_garcia7
@s_garcia7 2 года назад
Disadvantage no. 6: Subway systems that use tires are more (much more) expensive to build and maintain than those that use conventional metal wheels
@sa_21
@sa_21 3 года назад
bro, Lausanne should be there as well. It climbs the highest gradient anywhere in the world at 13% and is the smallest city in the world to have any kind of a Metro.
@SuperUnbenannt
@SuperUnbenannt 3 года назад
Exactly.
@andyhorvath6630
@andyhorvath6630 3 года назад
Google Serfaus, Austria
@mariosphere
@mariosphere 3 года назад
​@@andyhorvath6630 that's more like an elevator. Honestly, Lausanne trains are also short but it's at least a proper Metro. And it's also a full system with currently two Lines (M1 as a Light Rail, M2 as the one with rubber tires and the furure M3, also with rubber tires, which is currently in planning).
@nuabioof83
@nuabioof83 2 года назад
Pretty sure line C of Lyon's rubber tyre subway goes up to 17.6% making it the one with the highest gradient
@jerems0204
@jerems0204 2 года назад
@@nuabioof83 Lyon metro line C doesn't have rubber tyre but uses a rack railway on a large part of the line
@stift18
@stift18 3 года назад
There's more rubber-tyred metros in Santiago: the NS-04 based on Sao Paulo trains, the NS-12 which is a spin-off of the NS-07 featuring a/c, and the NS-16 based on a truncated overhauling design for the NS-74 assembled locally by Alstom.
@thebobs7385
@thebobs7385 3 года назад
I've ridden many metro/subway systems around the world and I'm partial to my hometown's system in Boston :-) but the 2 nicest systems I've ever ridden are in Montreal (rubber-tired) and Stockholm (steel wheels). They are both beautiful systems, clean, efficient and a pleasure to use. I visited Montreal for Expo 67 when the system was new and everyone remarked on the brand new metro system. I've since visited Montreal many times and the metro is the best way to get around and many of the stations are works of art in their own right. Then in the late 90's, I had a chance to visit Stockholm and use their system. I was struck by the artwork, the painted "caverns" the ancient "ruins" at Kungsträdgården station... It just makes the experience of riding underground that much more pleasant. Rubber tired systems only work in warmer climates or, in colder climates, if they are entirely underground (as in Montreal) or if the track/guideway is heated. They are better for steeper gradients. However even the MBTA Blue Line in Boston (steel wheels) navigates fairly steep grades through the Boston Harbor tunnel. Noise is no longer a distinguishing characteristic as many steel-wheeled systems are almost as quiet as rubber-tired systems. And rubber-tired systems such as in Montreal, Paris, and Mexico City still require steel tracks for switching and to support the train in case a rubber tire goes flat. As an aside, the engineer and author, Vukan R. Vuchic, has written some excellent books about urban transit systems, including rubber-tired systems and I highly recommend them for those who are interested in the subject.
@lzh4950
@lzh4950 2 года назад
Rubber-tyred systems perform poorer in snow but better in rain I think
@frap9965
@frap9965 Год назад
@@lzh4950 Montreal system is all underground. It's so fast and simple tp get around. Extremely underrated
@streetcar6896
@streetcar6896 3 года назад
I lived in Montreal from 89 to 94, I loved using the Metro. Nice video.
@tonymento3017
@tonymento3017 3 года назад
I love Montreal Canada I rode it in the early 1970’s when I was a kid
@kidsea13
@kidsea13 3 года назад
the advantages of rubber tyres presumably come to the fore in some contexts (particularly where steep hills are concerned), but for the most part they always just come off as a gadgetbahny solution to a problem that can usually be answered with conventional rolling stock
@TheCreepy31
@TheCreepy31 3 года назад
When it was created back then for the Paris metro the steel wheel trains accelerated / braked slowly and considering how close te station are on this network a rubber tyre rolling stock would have better acceleration and braking, so very usefull for this network. And it did. Then for LRT system like the VAL one they used rubber tyre wheel as it is way lighter than steel wheel + considering it was made for mid-sized cities / airport people mover it's designed for high frequency and close stops, but nowadays modern steel wheel metro have almost the same performance as rubber tire metro, it makes the difference depending on the network and it's requirements. Btw I live in Toulouse where we have a rubber tyre metro using VAL trains, it is very efficient and it's only drawback as a passenger is how small the trains are ( only 2m wide !! ). So if you have any question about this system you can ask :) !
@lzh4950
@lzh4950 2 года назад
Singapore chose rubber-tyred Bombardier (AdTranz back then) Innovia 100 (but to be replaced by Innovia 300 soon) & Mitsubishi Crystal Mover rolling stock too for it's (fully-elevated) LRT lines within some of its towns, as they're quieter, but I've found steel-wheeled MRT lines to become much quieter too after metal skirting was added along some stretches of overground MRT lines. Though I guess the other advantage of rubber-tyred rolling stock of being able to climb steeper slopes also means that their railway flyover junctions/interchanges can be made smaller too, which would be more important within towns (which are more crowded with apartment buildings)
@thefrenchelevatorchannel
@thefrenchelevatorchannel 3 года назад
Lyon has a wonderful rubber-tired metro that deserves to be in this video!
@allyreneepenny9447
@allyreneepenny9447 3 года назад
So true 👍
@carmenlobato9114
@carmenlobato9114 3 года назад
Yes, true
@henriquelobianco6536
@henriquelobianco6536 3 года назад
True!
@clemp7665
@clemp7665 3 года назад
Le métro de Paris aussi
@ibrahimabah3693
@ibrahimabah3693 3 года назад
The best ones are in Montreal and Paris. Also if you showed the azur people would understand what it is because im not sure if they even know what it is for some.
@justinbourget1560
@justinbourget1560 3 года назад
I can confirm yes :)
@nabeezc
@nabeezc 3 года назад
I’ve been on the Wenhu Line in Taipei. It’s a great ride, but I always thought of it as more of a people mover. Calling it a rubber tire metro makes A LOT more sense considering it’s length and usage.
@xxxbear
@xxxbear 3 года назад
One of 8 should be Sapporo Municipal Subway in Japan
@J__C_
@J__C_ 3 года назад
You’re damn right
@siaujuong8558
@siaujuong8558 3 года назад
The whole subway is rubber tired, quite unique
@izakymom
@izakymom 3 года назад
It is in there?
@pcam6415
@pcam6415 3 года назад
@@siaujuong8558 Like Lille, Toulouse, Torino, Rennes, Lausanne, Montreal and Marseille.
@pcam6415
@pcam6415 3 года назад
No, because Paris was the first in the world, most diverse (rolling stock) and the most well known. And it's longer than Sapporo's.
@dashq40
@dashq40 3 года назад
I hope Mexico City's metro is in here!! Very nice system, despite the recent tragedy and difficulties. Fortunately, a massive, and very necessary, renewal and maintenance project has been initiated by the current Mayor.
@J__C_
@J__C_ 3 года назад
You’re damn right
@christianluis7851
@christianluis7851 3 года назад
As a Mexican, I approve your comment
@juanpineda469
@juanpineda469 3 года назад
Not to be political, but do you really believe the current mayor is going to be able to make a serious renovation/modernization of the system in only 3 years left of her term.
@clezama3
@clezama3 2 года назад
@@juanpineda469 has to...
@eduardovazquezramirez6564
@eduardovazquezramirez6564 2 года назад
@@juanpineda469 Impossible to do in the short them but they should do it nonetheless, even if it's not finished by the end of her term. They have been investing in public transport, there's the new cablecar lines, new trolleybuses and the complete renewal of the ligh rail system. I have mild hopes that the metro is next, but you never know with the governments in this country
@billythorne
@billythorne 3 года назад
You made a mistake: at 9:21 you filmed one of Mexico City's steel wheeled lines.
@acorredorv
@acorredorv 2 года назад
Yep, that's the "Linea 12" that is steel wheeled and had a pretty bad accident a few months ago after an elevated section collapsed.
@user-he1rn5uu5w
@user-he1rn5uu5w 3 года назад
I am surprised that the Taipei system gets to the list. And btw, except the footage on 2:48, all other footage of the Wenhu line are showing the Bombardier APM 256, instead of the VAL 256. It can be special due to it being kind of rare nowadays to find the VAL trains, the other one in operation at O'Hare International Airport. As an extra note, the integration of the two car systems on the Wenhu line didn't go very smoothly. I still remember the news of people getting stuck on those trains due to system errors when the new trains were launched. There were even times when all trains have staff members onboard just to deal with these sudden stops (despite this supposed to be a fully automated system).
@TepicneoriTFFBAS
@TepicneoriTFFBAS 3 года назад
Thanks for revealing Mexico City’s Metro!
@TheKurtsPlaceChannel
@TheKurtsPlaceChannel 3 года назад
Very entertaining and fun to watch. Thanks for posting this.
@enricomosca692
@enricomosca692 3 года назад
You forgot about Turin, which is the first using a 52 meters trains. It's the same VAL system used in Lille
@trespire
@trespire 2 года назад
Iv'e ridden the Turin metro. Didn't realise it ran on rubber tires. But you are isolated from the track by the glass wall.
@EdgyNumber1
@EdgyNumber1 2 года назад
The Wenhu line... was my regular commuter route :)
@CPPchannel
@CPPchannel 2 года назад
In Thailand,thonburi side of bangkok.there is AGT gold line.rubber tire automated transit,in service since 2020.you can ride BTS to thonburi station and have fun with gold line to klong san station.and soon(maybe2022).Suvannabhumi shuttle AGT between Main terminal and sat1 terminal will be in service. Dont miss them!
@WBTravels
@WBTravels 3 года назад
Rubber tired metros are dope love them your awesome for doing these vids
@pingpongpung
@pingpongpung 3 года назад
*you're
@Tobu9105F
@Tobu9105F 3 года назад
so awesome
@GarySanson
@GarySanson 3 года назад
Yes I do like Rubber Tire Metro Systems, in 1993 I spent three days in Paris and rode the rubber tired train system when I went over to Paris from the UK where I was visiting family.
@Sean-vf7qr
@Sean-vf7qr 2 года назад
My first ever riding on a rubber tire metro was in Mexico City loved it
@josemojicaperez4436
@josemojicaperez4436 Год назад
As a Mexico City metro user is a honor this comment.
@justinbourget1560
@justinbourget1560 3 года назад
At 3:25 you are right,now the mr-73 is running in the green,yellow and blue line here at Montréal
@reamsel
@reamsel 2 года назад
The sound of the rubber tires feels and so much better than the squeaky steel train tracks.
@k.h.4698
@k.h.4698 2 года назад
It must cost a fortune to maintain rubber tired systems. Even Walt Disney World’s Test Track ride has to change tires every 4 days, if I remember correctly.
@Fan652w
@Fan652w 3 года назад
It is worth noting that four of your eight systems are in cities where the main language is French. It seems that rubber-tired metros have have had only limited success outside France, the country of their birth. I suspect that higher energy consumption is a decisive factor against rubberr-tyred metros. One city you missed is Lausanne in french-speaking western Switzerland. The line has gradients of 10%, proving one advantage of rubber tyres. The rolling stock is similar to that on Paris line 14.
@xander1052
@xander1052 3 года назад
similar to dangle trains and germany for instance.
@daciatravel.647
@daciatravel.647 3 года назад
Great video!
@flowerking3848
@flowerking3848 3 года назад
in france,marseille ,lyon,lille,toulouse and rennes torino ( turin) in italy
@danielcarlsen2217
@danielcarlsen2217 3 года назад
Yes fantastic rode my first time in 1965 Paris. Quiet fast, from Chicago which has steel wheels and the noise is the noise.
@RonDevito
@RonDevito 3 года назад
Great video. Noticed the silly man on the Parisian train who covered his face - because you know there is so very much an expectation of privacy in a public place (NOT).
@allyreneepenny9447
@allyreneepenny9447 3 года назад
Lille, Marseille and Paris are so Amazing ❗👌
@edwardmiessner6502
@edwardmiessner6502 3 года назад
Miami should have built its metro like this, it would be easier to extend on ground level because the necessary overpasses at the mile and half mile roads would be shorter
@frencisshuen1054
@frencisshuen1054 2 года назад
Wenhu(文湖線) Line! Proud of it. By the way, Wenhu line is Taiwan's first metro line!
@centredoorplugsthornton4112
@centredoorplugsthornton4112 3 года назад
The last bit of the Mexico metro shows a train with pantographs on top. Nos 9 and 10 could be Lyon, France and Lausanne, Switzerland.
@twindexxx
@twindexxx 3 года назад
Im from Germany and I didn't knew that such "trains" exist
@hel803
@hel803 3 года назад
Gummibahn
@LHProductionsofficial
@LHProductionsofficial 3 года назад
Note: the Taipei system uses both the older VAL256 & newer Bombardier Innovia APM 256 units. Most of what you’ve filmed are the Bombardier units. O’Hare Airport also happens to use the same rolling stock.
@78Dipar
@78Dipar 3 года назад
The rubber tire metro was first used in Paris. First tested on the short line 11 (1956), it was later used on line 1 (1964) and line 4 (1967), the busiest lines in Paris. The main goal was to increase tradic thanks to better accelation and braking. Another advantage is less noise and vibrations. The main drawbacks are lower energy efficiency, and tire dust...
@h.hartwig
@h.hartwig 2 года назад
I disagree with the presumption of less noise. Rolling noise of the rubber tires is subjectively louder and more annoying than the sound from well-maintained steel wheels in modern Metro systems.
@stanislavkostarnov2157
@stanislavkostarnov2157 2 года назад
really like the Saitamashi commuter, Japan... (it's sort of like the Taipei system, but the carriages are almost fully glass on the top, giving an awesome view from the elevated parts) also, does the Yurikamome line count as a system..? it does have more stops than the one in Sapporo, if only a single line, along Tokyo-Ginza's shore and then across the inner islands of the harbor. a definite cool one is the Yamaman Yūkarigaoka Line in Sakura city Japan, as well as the Kanazawa Seaside Line (strangely enough non of it is actually in Kanazawa or Yokohama proper, though it skirts the borders in a crescentish shape...) definitely add the LRT in Singapore and the Chongqing Bishan rubber-tyred tram & the Zhujiang New Town Automated People Mover System in Guangzhou... PS: - used the Taipei metro a lot... liked the sound accompaniment, airy stations & a very comfortable smooth ride... not too busy too (at least among/for the systems in the Far East)
@user-a1000
@user-a1000 11 месяцев назад
I love rubber-tired trains and I have a dream that one day Ljubljana (in Slovenia 🇸🇮) would have one. And i liked that the MP89CC that was in the video was the number 33. It is one of my favorites.
@SpotterCrazyperson
@SpotterCrazyperson 3 года назад
There are 8 of them? Cool. Interesting rubber tire metro. Seems perfect for under the ground and to drive faster in a bend, thanks to the extra wheels.
@SpotterCrazyperson
@SpotterCrazyperson 3 года назад
The metro in Mexico looks great! Several colors on one metro
@Tobu9105F
@Tobu9105F 3 года назад
these exist and i vaguely remember riding the french metro
@233CFH
@233CFH 3 года назад
The train in the thumbnail looks like a toy wooden train! The only systems I knew that had metros with rubber tires are Paris, Montreal, and Santiago. I know that Santiago and Paris share the same type of rolling stock.
@nikaki99
@nikaki99 3 года назад
Mexico City, Lausanne, Lille, Lyon, Toulouse, Rennes, Taipei, Seoul etc.
@233CFH
@233CFH 3 года назад
@@nikaki99 I forgot about Mexico City and Lyon. I didn't know about the others though.
@WillsRailfanning
@WillsRailfanning 3 года назад
That’s Marseille, in France. Been there, can confirm the trains are ridiculously funny looking
@233CFH
@233CFH 3 года назад
@@WillsRailfanning They surely are funny looking although I can say, I do like them. There really is no train I do not like.
@Hardtransport
@Hardtransport 3 года назад
In Santiago, only in Line 2 and 5 shares the same rolling stock with Paris, NS-74 is the MP-73, NS-93 is the MP-89, but we have the NS-04 from Alstom, NS-07/12 from CAF and NS-16 from Alstom, and those models of trains are only in here.
@subwaymark
@subwaymark 3 года назад
Lyon, France should be in the top 8.. I find rubber-tired metros to be nearly as loud (but at a lower pitch) as steel rail in stations, the clear exception is steel rail is much louder on curves.
@jimpern
@jimpern 3 года назад
The only one of these I'm familiar with is Montreal, though I haven't been there in 10 years and am only familiar with the older rolling stock.
@kongalvin1820
@kongalvin1820 3 года назад
I think the light rail in Macau should be ranked for its good facility and cool locomotive appearance. Lots of money was invested and the results were carried out is satisfying.
@nmuzza1
@nmuzza1 3 года назад
Love ‘em. What about Lausanne?
@AlexV-el9vq
@AlexV-el9vq 2 года назад
in Turin (Italy) there is a rubber tire metro system. It's very cool
@fightingfalcon1986
@fightingfalcon1986 Год назад
I think the older Montreal Metro rolling stock sounds quite like a spacecraft while it departs from station
@nixcails
@nixcails 3 года назад
What no Lyon! France (Rhone-Alps). I also like the VAL in Rennes, Bretagne. Plus agree with previous comments regarding Lausanne, Switzerland giving it's incline from Lac Leman to the hilly suburbs.
@PackaWalka
@PackaWalka 3 года назад
Busan metro line 4 is the first rubber tired metro here in korea 🇰🇷
@momoqin9296
@momoqin9296 3 года назад
It was a real trend back in those days because they give a smooth ride.
@Lodai974
@Lodai974 3 года назад
And in addition at the time (the 60s) the grip of the tires compensated for the low power of the trains, as well as the jerks during acceleration / deceleration.
@josemojicaperez4436
@josemojicaperez4436 Год назад
Number two... Not bad to all.
@infanteloco
@infanteloco 2 года назад
In Santiago we got the same train 10:02
@adithyaramachandran7427
@adithyaramachandran7427 3 года назад
I have been on the montreal subway line.
@edwardmiessner6502
@edwardmiessner6502 3 года назад
So have I and I loved it!
@tabiatbekcisi5841
@tabiatbekcisi5841 2 года назад
You can intercontinental (Europe to Asia and Asia to Europe) trip by metro only in Istanbul in the world. This metro name is "Marmaray" İstanbul Tünel (Turkey) (Inaugurated 17.10.1875, this is the oldest surviving underground urban rail line in continental Europe.)
@stickynorth
@stickynorth 10 месяцев назад
I haven't ridden any of the rubber-tyre metro's but I do think the technology is cool, especially VAL because it introduced automated rapid transit to many a small French city... I still think the coolest tech though is the ALRT of Vancouver and Dubai...
@rodericksmith8218
@rodericksmith8218 3 года назад
There is a rule of thumb for urban transport: maximum acceleration/braking is 1 m/s/s for standee comfort for people who are not gripping a handrail firmly. Acceleration is limited by adhesion only for the first few seconds; thereafter is is power limited. In emergency mode, steel can achieve 1.2 m/s/s (and standees may fall over). The benefits are overstated when balanced with complexity and energy use. Away from Paris (where most lines aren't rubber), I have been on Montreal, Mexico City, and probably Santiago. Is Caracas (Venezuela) rubber? My only train ride there was on the metro. On all, I have no memory of conspicuous silence or smoothness: if blindfolded, I wouldn't have guessed what was under the floor. On a non metro, I have been on a Michelin in Madagascar which blew two tyres with no steel backup.
@wharpblast264
@wharpblast264 3 года назад
Metro trains are intensively used, so I expect the tyres need replacing regularly. More than once a year I guess. Potentially more out of service time, so requiring a slightly larger fleet.
@remicardona_poly
@remicardona_poly 2 года назад
Got a source for that? As a counter point, I would argue that steel wheels need to be reprofiled regularly as well, "requiring a slightly larger fleet"...
@HollywoodF1
@HollywoodF1 2 года назад
In Paris, the rubber tired ones seem to be able to do a lot more tight turns without the disadvantage of squealing steel wheels.
@meongmeong3599
@meongmeong3599 2 года назад
I think Sapporo Subway is the only system that can match capacity of steel wheeled metro. From Japanese wiki, the Tozai line (orange train in this video) can be expanded to 9 car trains. And the train is wide enough, around 3 meters
@thelowcarenthusiast5015
@thelowcarenthusiast5015 3 года назад
In Singapore you have one or two car rubber tired mini trains called lrt!
@J__C_
@J__C_ 3 года назад
🇭🇰❤️🇸🇬
@luisedu03
@luisedu03 9 месяцев назад
@ViaTrolebusoficial fica a sugestão para um vídeo sobre metrôs que utilizam rodas de borracha. Sistema que permite enfrentar maiores rampas, acelerações e frenagens mais rápidas devido a maior aderência/coeficiente de atrito
@user-nr1ji8yi9n
@user-nr1ji8yi9n 3 года назад
Busan, South Korea also has rubber tire metro. Line 4 is made with rubber tire, and Line 5 will be use rubber tire. (Line 1~3, Busan-Gimhae LRT is not rubber tire metro.) There is no rubber tire metro in Seoul yet, but Sillim line will be rubber tire metro.
@hajimetakahashi632
@hajimetakahashi632 3 года назад
Rokko liner Sumiyoshi to marinepark i like :)
@bandvitromania9642
@bandvitromania9642 3 года назад
Lol now i know the metro i rode in Paris was rubber tire type
@fightingfalcon1986
@fightingfalcon1986 Год назад
And btw, the NS-2007 Santiago rolling stock it's not based on Mexican made designs, it was designed by Alstom but assembled at Sao Paulo, Brazil. The only Mexican made train was the NS-1988, and due to the high MTBF rates of that model and slower commercial speed, it was decided to not buy more trains of the type and instead the NS-1993 (based on Paris Metro MP-89 Meteor chassis) was selected.
@D_Marrenalv
@D_Marrenalv Год назад
The Marseille metro looks much more beautiful than the Paris metro trains.
@Puzzle366
@Puzzle366 3 года назад
I been at Sapporo and I ride the train at japen.
@Katrielle_Going_To_Quebec
@Katrielle_Going_To_Quebec 2 года назад
I think you should come back to Montréal! Those clips are pretty old. Things have sort of changed since then. It's unfortunate that you didn't show the older MR-63 rolling stocks. There were retired since 2018. And a new line extension is now on the works and should open by ~2026. AND Montréal is having a completely new regional automated metro system called the Réseau Express Métropolitain. You defiantly should come come back!
@Milnoc
@Milnoc 3 года назад
It's too bad you didn't have any footage of the new AZUR trains in the Montreal Metro. They're very nice! And the brake pads are still made of wood soaked in peanut oil!
@timosha21
@timosha21 3 года назад
I need to revisit the system to get that footage! Hopefully sooner rather than later! :D
@justinbourget1560
@justinbourget1560 3 года назад
@@timosha21 you are gonna be impressed by the Montréal azur train :)
@jfmezei
@jfmezei 2 года назад
As a Montrealer, I find it unfair we're ranked only 6 when all you had was old footage. Montreal's system was opened in 1966 so systemj chosen well before that, so after Paris, we are one of the older ones (and yes, it was "inpired" by the Paris system who cooprrated in the design. The first cars were built in Montréal by Canadian Vickers based on the french designs. The MR73 cars were the first ever trains built by Bombardier who had only built snowmobiles to that point, and the MP10 were the last ones ever built by Bombardier before its assets liquidated and sold to Alstom (who was a partner in building MP10s). Also, the "quieter" is not true as the sound of tires against the concrete "track" is much louder than steel wheel.
@lzh4950
@lzh4950 2 года назад
It's quieter above ground instead I think
@Lodai974
@Lodai974 3 года назад
One of the advantages, "quiter", is no longer really relevant ... the metros on tires are certainly less noisy in the bends, but otherwise, they are as much, if not more noisy than the conventional trainsets. Strangely, the first models in Paris (Mp59-Mp73) are not very noisy compared to the Mp89 and Mp14, however more recent .... It is true that the VVVF control systems make more noise than the resistance control. But hey, a positive point for sure !!! an Mp89 on the M14 at 80kph it's an incredible noise (which does not come from the tires but from the transmission) 😉
@holofernesz
@holofernesz 3 года назад
This is very true. It was more revelvant when the technology came out because rails were either attached directly to concrete or the transmissions of the electric drives were coarse enough to cause excess vibrations to translate into the rails and thus the tunnels. This was a major problem in old metro systems because it would cause the ground around the tunnel to also vibrate, moving the soil above the tunnel and sinking buildings in less stable areas. Modern tech uses rubber buffers between the rail and tunnel bed, or traditional ballast in some cases. The more modern machined transmissions with a proper drive also reduces vibration from the train significantly and thus this problem doesn't really exist anymore. Modernized ex-soviet systems are a prime example of how much sound can be dampened with the newer technology.
@scottyerkes1867
@scottyerkes1867 3 года назад
Never experienced riding a rubber tired metro/subway. I see more disadvantages than advantages compared to steel wheeled systems. Thanx for the comparison.
@ronylouis0
@ronylouis0 3 года назад
It thoroughly increased speed on line 1 of the french subway, from 20km/h average speed with 2 minute headways to 33km/h average speed with 1.30min headways. Despite the punctured tire issues, I've never seen that be a problem (aka have a train be stopped for that) since they're doubled with steel wheels. It's also really important, high gradients are tough to reliably handle with non rubber systems. It's a very specific solution for a few specific problems, but outside of solving those problems it still operates just as well. It's more expensive but provides higher capacity, frequency and acceleration/deceleration (with better comfort!)
@scottyerkes1867
@scottyerkes1867 3 года назад
@@ronylouis0 thank you. Got it.
@Lodai974
@Lodai974 3 года назад
@@ronylouis0 Paris line 1 has very short interstations, so a train that accelerates very hard is an advantage.
@raphaeldexel4356
@raphaeldexel4356 3 года назад
Make about the metro in Lausanne.....it has two systems....rubber tire and normal metros. They have two lines.
@SuperUnbenannt
@SuperUnbenannt 3 года назад
Métro m2 de Lausanne must have been in this list as it climbs up the highest height difference in relation to distance in the world
@ferrasrotator
@ferrasrotator 3 года назад
How about the West Virginia University PRT?
@geraldwagner8739
@geraldwagner8739 Год назад
Here in Germany there are no rubber tire metro systems at all. Our U-Bahns run all on classic steel wheels.
@alforcel5346
@alforcel5346 2 года назад
First rubber-tyred train was made in Paris, France in 1951
@jayendrapanchal811
@jayendrapanchal811 2 года назад
This is good metros
@charsbob
@charsbob 3 года назад
Rubber tire systems should avoid most of the vexing problems of steel dust, which is a significant problem for rail systems, especially subways.
@frasermitchell9183
@frasermitchell9183 2 года назад
Judging by the video, the systems are just as noisy as normal metros with steel wheels. You can get just as much quietness using resilient wheels like almost all tramway systems use. Of course with trams, noise is important, as they're on street and not buried away.
@fesak8423
@fesak8423 3 года назад
Nice video, but there's some things that keep bugging me that I've also seen in other videos. Sometimes the sounds that play in the transitions are uhhh kinda out of place? Like it doesn't make sense to play some electric sparkling sounds for no reason does it, on other videos they're just completely random. The text could be on a semi transparent black rectangle, because sometimes the background is the same colour as the text so it's hard to read. Also please learn how to spell quieter (it's not quiter). I don't want this to sound bad, but maybe take it as some tips for future videos.
@davidaldinger7085
@davidaldinger7085 3 года назад
What you really should’ve done was to make this a top 10 list or better yet just rank them all. I wouldn’t mind if you did a video of nothing but apm systems.
@Nohab52offical
@Nohab52offical 3 года назад
The Santiago one is in Rails Unlimited from Roblox
@CityLifeinAmerica
@CityLifeinAmerica 2 года назад
It’s literally not any quieter than a regular train. But with more maintenance.
@dannyhilarious
@dannyhilarious 2 года назад
What about ALWEG trains? Despite being monorails, they always drive on rubber air tires.
@chofo2130
@chofo2130 3 года назад
quelindo!
@taipeicome3599
@taipeicome3599 3 года назад
1:48 ohhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!
@nardo7687
@nardo7687 3 года назад
lets call it what it is, a fancy ass bus.
@iliaskara090ytgreece
@iliaskara090ytgreece 3 года назад
Hello Timosha 😀❤
@hectorcruz7886
@hectorcruz7886 Год назад
Why do the Montreal metro trains make that sound "duduu" when they start running?🤔
@angusstewart6655
@angusstewart6655 2 года назад
I still like the rail more
@alexanderip1003
@alexanderip1003 Год назад
Some still prefer steel rims just like the Metropolitan Line which was opened back in 1863
@eduardovazquezramirez6564
@eduardovazquezramirez6564 2 года назад
I always love watching my beloved Mexico City metro in videos! I'm not an engineer but in my opinion, there may be lines where steel wheel trains may have been a better idea. For example, line 7 was built mostly in a deep tunnel and because of that, heat tends to build up, this has led to instances of tires catching fire when braking. Overall, though, I'd say these trains have been pretty reliable throughout the years, there's even some MP 68 trains that were refurbished in the 90s and are still in service nowadays.
@Desi365
@Desi365 Год назад
Increible since MP68 means they were manufactured in .... 1968. But this equipment is sturdy. The Paris metro has some really really old trainsets still running good.
@williamerazo3921
@williamerazo3921 3 года назад
So a people mover is on the list ok 👌🏽
@vitali1964
@vitali1964 3 года назад
And Turin in Italy?
@leklek4556
@leklek4556 2 года назад
Also in Thailand .
@COVID_24
@COVID_24 2 года назад
It is a pity that the Sapporo subway technology developed by Kawasaki is not adopted outside of Sapporo.
@user-fv1uj8nr8k
@user-fv1uj8nr8k 3 года назад
So far, I've only been in Taipei. この中で乗ったことがあるのは、今のところ台北のみ。
@jiriprochazka6366
@jiriprochazka6366 3 года назад
9:30 that train is actually not on tyres
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