Top 9 Heroes 3 (HOMM) Level 7 Creatures.

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Another Heroes video ! Please share your opinion with me .
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*I included Phoenix's without taking their double growth into account. With double growth they would have been easily number 1.

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@ulmersglue6552 6 лет назад

Dude Phoenix's should be way higher. You get so many and you get automatic first turn... such a strong unit.

@simontollin2004 4 года назад

Yes, should probably be nr1 due to speed, production rate and cost

@oskarmadry550 4 года назад

They are good only for late game

@brianmayabella5992 3 года назад

Fast and good damage and high growth

@Winnetou17 3 года назад

It's not a strong unit, it's a bullshit-tier OP unit.

@seadog7448 3 года назад

Phoenix shall switch with gold dragon as it has a higher grow rate than any other level 7 creatures.

@nikalsson 4 года назад

Everybody is missing a very important fact. You are using your units with a hero and skills. Archery skill gives Titans the most DMG in the game (+50% Expert) from all other LVL 7 units with a skill. Archery skill makes the Titan with 60-90 DMG. Black dragon and all other LVL 7 units can get only + 30% DMG from the Offence skill. The bonus DMG potential here in the game from skills is quite different. For example Black Dragon can get bonus DMG from the Offence (30% Expert) and this makes 52 - 65 DMG. This is not near close to Titan's 60 - 90 DMG. Not to mention that we can use bless. Archangel can get +30% or 65 DMG. The potential of the Titans in the game with a Hero is much higher than all other LVL 7 creatures. The Titan is also a shooter and this is very important. Is useless to tell in one combat how much huge advantage you can get if you have stronger shooters than the other player. This will force the other player to start first to move all his units and this gives huge advantage to you not only to hit first but to hit one enemy unit many times. Also enemy units will be separated because of the difference in their speed. This makes Titans the most game changing units in one fight. Huge advantage to the whole fight and also the Archery skill makes this unit with the most DMG from all others LVL 7 units. Not to mention that in most cases using magic is better thing than magic immunity in Black dragons. To be honest we can see in lots of games Titans much more with good magic than bad magic on them. This gives advantage. Basically Titans are the most game changing unit in the whole game with impressive DMG bonus from just 1 skill and this makes them on the same shared 1st place - as Archangels.

@DelinaX 3 года назад

Titans can be 2nd but archangels still clap titans

@mitromney 3 года назад

Chaos Hydra clap both Titans and Archangels. They are the strongest level 7 unit by far. They can potentially attack all 7 enemy units at the same time (when surrounded) making them easily the best in dealing damage. A well placed Hydra will always attack 2-3 units, and this ability can't backfire, like Phoenix's or dragon's breathing ability can. They also have the strongest defensive skill in the game (retaliation block) and high hp (250) on top of coming from a very tanky town with lots of bonus defensive stats and mandatory armorer. And on top of all that, their hive is easy to get, and they are laughably cheap. They also have the same abilities before their update, making them very handy even in early game. Titans are absurdly expensive and their pre-upgrate form is a joke. Who cares if they deal good damage, you will usually win the game long before buying your first Titan. Being an archer also has it's weaknesses. Titan's shots get weaken by walls and forcefields, and you can protect from enemy fire with spells like air shield. They also have no special defensive abilities besides high hp and come from a very squishy town, so they will usually die either way. Farming Phoenixes is also a very expensive strategy, and they are very vulnerable units with low hp and no special defensive abilities so they will die a lot. Keeping their stack in high numbers will usually be impossible. And without big numbers, Phoenix sucks. Their stats are a joke and their special ability is a joke, useful only if your whole stack is about to die. In context, both Phoenix and Titans are very hard to get, hard to maintain and are only good in specific scenarios. These units are average. Nothing to brag about.

@nikalsson 3 года назад

@@mitromney , Chaos Hydra is not one of the best level 7 units mainly because is slow compared to other ones and it's not so hard to take it down with ranged units and to hit first. One of the most important things is how soon and how often you can do damage. And that's why shooters are usually weaker than other units at the same level - because they can do damage from the start without retaliation. And this make Titan so impressive, because is a shooter and it's not weaker in any way, exactly opposite - too strong for a shooter. And for that reason the price is high. This capability of the shooters to do damage from the 1st turn is much much more important compared to feasible big damage but slow, hard to happen, difficult to implement. Usefulness and speed of the damage. It's just that Chaos Hydra in 9 of 10 battles is never going to be in any good position to deal damage to more targets. Usually good players don't let such scenario to happen. Usually Chaos Hydras will face 1 or 2 units and at the same time and before that will be shoot from afar. And such scenario Chaos Hydras to hit 2 unis is definitely not enough to do a lot of damage and to win because the Attack of the Chaos Hydra is just 18 - not good at all and the damage to 1 , 2 and even 3 units is not so impressive. I was playing heroes 3 for so many years and in such rare occasions is happen to see Hydra to hit more than 1-2 units and usually on the next turn this is prevented easily because Hydra is slow and other units can avoid such scenario if the player is good. I love to play Fortress and I'm angry if someone is thinking that this is a weak town - it's exact opposite but the player has to think more in battles. But to be honest after so many years playing Heroes I found Mighty Gorgons much more useful and much more a killing machine compared to Chaos Hydras. I love them, they are definitely more useful and kill more other LV 7 units than Chaos Hydras. I would replace a weekly population of Chaos Hydras with Mighty Gorgons any day. Mighty Gorgon is the best unit of the Fortress and one of the best in the game, and because of that the best choice for hero is Alkin, not Tazar. This is just my opinion, it's OK if we people have different opinions.

@Winnetou17 3 года назад

@@nikalsson Dude, put some freaking paragraphs, like Adam did. You literally have a wall of text, both in the original post and in your reply to Adam. A few things: Fortress is almost guaranteed to have Teleport. Expert Teleport costs 2 mana! and you can teleport over walls in sieges. So, yeah, Chaos Hydra's turn will come later, but when it does, the speed won't be a problem. Second, Titans aren't that good as you portray them. They are excellent vs monsters on the map, but in PvP, they're simply ok. They have average speed. So, the enemies with dragons, archangles or phoenixes can 1) act first and cast something ugly on you, like Implosion on the titans or slow or haste etc and 2) come in melee with your titans and BAM you can flush that archery skill down the toilet. Lastly, they have the highest max damage, but they don't have the highest attack and defense. Even with Bless on the titan, an archangel (with 50 hp less) would beat it! (65 damage per attack vs 51 damage done by the titan, and the archangel acts first)

@nikalsson 3 года назад

@@Winnetou17 , Teleport? Better do not involve magic here "what if I use" because Fortress will always lose against Tower - 3 Levels of magic against 5 Levels plus one more magic at every level. What if other player is using Resurrection magic for example - you will loose for sure, teleport won't help. With only 3 levels of magic you won't have a chance. That's why is not very smart to involve magic here against a lot stronger town in magic - you will lose. And we are talking here about the units itself - how strong and useful they are and because of that you should't involve any magic in the first place. Titan is not just OK in close range it's stronger. It's strong about the same as Black Dragon, plus is a shooter - huge advantage. Black Dragon is not just "OK" strong - it's very strong. Yes, shooters have big advantage against so many units in Heroes 3, indeed not against all but against many. Titan is better unit than Black dragon in most of the cases because it's about as strong but it's a shooter, quite strong one. About the speed In actual combat for example even if you are playing Dungeon against Tower usually you won't attack with only the Black Dragons at the first turn, because the Black Dragons will be separated and will be hit by many enemy units like Naga Q. You cannot use that speed in Black Dragons at first turn against a whole army. You can but not so smart.

@mule2081 6 лет назад

I have to seriously disagree on something. The later the game goes the ability aging is just getting better and better. You said in your tier 5 creatures videos that terrible gaze from mighty gorgons is one of the best perks a creature can have. I agree, but I think aging is the best PERIOD. Ghost dragons themselves are weak, and they should be just caus of how aging powerful is, ESPECIALLY in the later stages of the game. It reduces the hp of the entire enemy creature stack by 50%. So if you get it on let's say enemy archangels. The debuff is more worth the more archangels the enemy has in the stack. It reduces the hp of the entire stack had he 2 or 2000 archangels. So isn't it obvious this ability scales so incredibly well into the later stages of the game since later you tend to have higher number of units in your stack for the ability to reduce hp.

@richiabosuli3193 6 лет назад

You are 100% right. I read about ghost dragons more after this video since I wasn't very familiar with their ability, and I realized I screwed up. Their ability is better at late game than in early game, and is a very good ability, one of the best of level 7's. But they fall behind other level 7 because of their poor stats. Other than aging and perhaps their speed they are lower than average, and they die very quickly compared to other level 7 units.

@alewis514 6 лет назад

ghost dragon is the weakest lv7 unit in the game but it is still useful in necro composition. It is a flyer and has a speed of 14 - it can reach anything in one turn. Being a level 7 unit, it is much stronger than griffins, thunderbirds or wivrens in siege battles. And animate dead is cheaper & stronger. In siege battles necro has this one and a wraith (which is really weak and won't do much good)

@mule2081 6 лет назад

Well yes, and your own breath attack can backfire really hard. Heroes is a very complex game, but in most situations it's useful. But that is kinda funny hahhaha.

@ksi4621 6 лет назад

I think there not that bad

@Gold139 6 лет назад

the problem with aging is that it doesn't always prox, and the dragons could die before that without proxing the ability. consistency is a big factor.

@axelamingo3688 6 лет назад

Gold Dragon: I rank above that Badass Behemoth cuz I look awesome.

@michaelzhang8199 3 года назад

hahahahahaha.

@omare5383 2 года назад

hhhhhhh

@Brugar18 6 лет назад

Forgot to mention that titans are ranged units and that they pretty much can handle themselves perfectly in melee and range

@mrorlov2706 6 лет назад

In terms of TRUE FORCE the upgraded Benemoths are the beasts.

@richiabosuli3193 6 лет назад

Yes in raw power the AB are monsters. But I also took other things in consideration and I think that the creatures I placed above the Behemoths are more useful and overall a bit better.

@mrorlov2706 6 лет назад

Yeh, I got it. Did you play the Cove castle?

@richiabosuli3193 6 лет назад

Yes I did. Haspids are OP as hell :O

@mrorlov2706 6 лет назад

AFAIR the Phoenix has the biggest growth among 7th lvl units.

@richiabosuli3193 6 лет назад

Yes Phoenix has a growth of 4 per week and the others 2 per week. But in this video I ranked them with the same amount of stack, If I took the Phoenix growth into account I would probably place them as number 1's or atleast in top 3.

@joro222 Год назад

I read most popular comments and i see Archangels ability to resurrect is not mentioned a lot. One of the best abilities in the game. Well done for the ranking. I would move the Phoenix a bit higher due to always attacking first and Titans probably ahead of BD, but thats not a big deal anyway.

@bosspoke 5 лет назад

1. Ach angel (Ressurects, high stats all-round, high dmg, difficult to kill, blazing fast - but yeah expensive) 2. Phoenix (I take into account their amazing growth which negates their lower stats. Able to ressurect itself, and fastest unit in the game which does matter alot) 3. Black dragon (Yeah... just an epic dragon strolling by. Between good and great dmg, breath attack makes it great. Fast, and flying. Immune to magic, which makes them uniquely well suited against spellpower enemies, and can be used for armageddon squad. Very difficult to kill with high hp, high defence and magic immunity) 4. Titans (Overall extremly useful. High dmg combined with shooting makes them lethal. Difficult to deal with cuz of no melee penalty, high def and high hp. Immune to mind spells is also notable. Their main drawback is that they are slow, fastest shooter, but slow. And they cost alot...) 5. Gold dragons (Another happy drake flying by. Solid unit with many of the perks a black dragons brings. Faster than Blackies and slightly higher stats, but lower hp. They are also terribly vulnerable to implosion) 6. Chaos hydra (Quite beefy, a little low attack and dmg. Also low speed which you always compensate for with speed buff. No enemy retaliation is very useful. Cheap and you might get them early, leading to a bigger stack. Their multiple head attack is what sets them apart. Capable of highest dmg in the game by far) 7. Ancient behemoth (Very tanky cuz of hp, but low def. Their low attack aint important cuz of the immens def reduction their ability grants upon attacking. Highest single target dmg among all faction units. Also cheap and you get them early. Drawback is slowness and cannot fly. They aren't really backed up by good teammates either) 8. Arch devil (Quick creature, one of the quickest in the game. No enemy retaliation. They have low hp though, low stats, and not high dmg. Reduces luck of enemies. Overall useful for inferno, but lower than the 7 others) 9. Ghost dragon (Slowest flying/teleporting 7th tier units, but still fast enough. Low stats, low hp and low dmg. Aging ability can be very useful, but you need some luck. Reduces morale of enemy which is nice - Not a bad units, as it has uses, but it dies too quickly and deals too low dmg)

@kappu1994 4 года назад

totally agree

@micekVicek 3 года назад

Brilliant, straight on point sir :)

@generalpierogi7781 Месяц назад

nah I’m sorry but in no way are hydras better than behes

@AzureFulgur 6 лет назад

I understand the dislikes, everyone has favorites and it's really hard to compare Tier 7 in particular. Ghost Dragons are super weak, but Aging is so powerful, Hydras are slow but teleport them into the enemy ranks and they wreak havoc. All of them are great, it's hard to make a list

@richiabosuli3193 6 лет назад

Sorry I saw your comment just now. Anyway you are right, everyone has their likes and dislikes and thats totally fine. T

@QuangNguyen-wb2gu 5 лет назад

@@richiabosuli3193 that is because this game is very balanced :D

@Kartofl12 5 лет назад

Behemoth + teleport Hmmmmm

@vladimirroman4011 4 года назад

same goes for hydras

@veroc7783 3 года назад

Finnaly, someone who ranks the Black Dragon good

@brianmayabella5992 Год назад

My ranking 1. Black Dragon (decent speed and spell immune) 2. Archangel (tough, speed and resurrection) 3. Titan (strong and shooter - it is lower to AA bcoz of initiative) 4. Phoenix (initiative, immunity to certain spells and growth) 5. Behemoth (growth bcoz cheap building and pure power but spell vulnerability) 6. Gold dragon (up to 4th immunity but its speed/initiative 2nd to phoenix) 7. Devil (no enemy retaliation, decent damage) 8. HYDRA (no enemy retal, poor damage) 9. Ghost dragon (frail and weak only creature ability is strong) 2-8 ranking are implosion vulnerable 2-8 have certain spell vulnerability. Blinded creature is lower 2-8 some are weak attack, def skill and Hp Thats why Black Dragon is the best only behemoth can do hard punch BD but theyre spell vulnerable especially slow, blind, implosion and many more. Drageddon tactics. But of course, it depends upon hero skill build.

@Zara-game-channel 6 лет назад

You are mostly right. Ghost dragons are the worst 7 tier, and Hydras are useless for the later part of the game. Hey but Phoniex? HOMM3 is all about speed and Phoeniex has the best speed than any other units in HOMM3, even than Azure Dragon!! It means whoever has the Phoniex gets to start the battle with first hit and first chance to use magic. For that reason, they are no.1 7 tier units because a chance to use magic first is too important in HOMM3.And the later part of the game, you are most likely to get your hands on Armageddon magic, then you can go hit and run the enemy player by using incredibly high speed and immunity to fire. High speed enables you to start the battle with armageddon, and run away. You can just hire the lord back at your town and do it again, and again and again. That is why Conflux is the most hated town in Multiplayer and at most times, forbidden. You can do same with Efreet, but its speed is only 13, making your enemy lord to attack first.

@brianmayabella5992 3 года назад

Its defintely top 4.

@modycebula8161 4 года назад

Phoenixes number 7, excuse me, what the fu- Their double growth is insane. One Archangel is better than one Phoenix, but not than two. Also their resurrection, highest speed in the game, breath attack and fire spell immunity (Armageddon strategy, no Berserk, no Blind) make them really dangerous enemy. Despite being somewhat weak in stats having them in your army is worth every cost.

@brianmayabella5992 Год назад

Agreed. Phoenix are below to TITAN, ARCHANGEL and Black dragon only

@klapacjuszanimomon8501 5 лет назад

Double Phoenix growth ... It speak for itself

@plumedesinge 4 года назад

Hota fixed that

@dkshen3870 3 года назад

its a mod. mod doesnt count

@RabianskiT 3 года назад

@@dkshen3870 HotA is the new standard. It's not just a mod. Have you played it? It's what Heroes 3 expansions should be... totally amazing!

@dkshen3870 3 года назад

@@RabianskiT but u cant change the fact that it's still a mod, no matter how good it is.

@RabianskiT 3 года назад

@@dkshen3870 3DO doesn’t exist anymore, so all we have are mods. Most of them aren’t that good, but HotA is. It has made some necessary adjustments and great additions (Travelling by see used to be quite boring, but now it’s very exciting). Sure, if someone liked having 4 pheonixes per week, they might be disappointed. However, it was a necessary balance nerf imo. Same like when 3DO added 3 gems to the cost of Archangels.

@hubertzajakaa6818 3 года назад

Ancient behemoth is very important and u can have a behemoth habitat even in first week. Then u can go to capture another cities much faster than other players.

@brianmayabella5992 Год назад

If its rookie difficulty, then it is possible. Try impossible or Kings difficulty, then it is impossible . 2 weeks perhaps

@danielcreed8520 6 лет назад

Nice list. I dig Titans. Bow of the Sharpshooter gives them no melee retaliation ability, plus 30% damage. Add expert archery for 80% boost. Plus, Titans will only face 2-3 monster stacks at a time from starting position. Cloning a big stack is OP too, Force Field is broken

@thalvick 5 лет назад

doesn't the bow improve archery skill by 30%? i think that if your hero doesnt have archery skill the bow doesn't improve dmg at all, just removes ranged penalties?

@cursedsummoner 5 лет назад

@@thalvick That is the individual pieces from the bow are the ones boosting archery skill and as you say, if no skill no boost in damage is applied. I assume this is someone picking archery with tower, which I sometimes consider as well (in case I see it come up). One more thing, the Bow of the Sharpshooter does not give them 'no melee retaliation', in fact what it does is let them shot even if there is a unit next to them (wiki source: allows them to shoot even when next to an enemy) justifying the reason for 3 slots over the one slot Golden Bow.

@Dan-uf2vh 4 года назад

you forget that Phoenix gets twice the growth rate, putting it way ahead to what it appears to be

@applesauce5810 6 лет назад

This isn't including spells right? If this is face on attacking the enemy troops, then there is no way in hell Behemoths should be that low, behemoths should be at least above the gold dragon. And if spells are included the Phoenix should be way higher because it is a guaranteed Armageddon first turn. But nice video man!

@richiabosuli3193 6 лет назад

This is without spells, it's based on overall abilities, effieciency, cost etc.. and how good they are on average between the start of the game and the end. It's very possible that behemoths are above gold dragons, I placed gold dragons above behemoths because of their better stats and spell immunity, but Behemoths are monsters. Phoniex is ranked with normal level 7 growth of 2, with their original growth they are number 1 for sure.

@kingstannis1158 6 лет назад

But, then you have to go solo phoenix with whatever other unit who are immune to fire just to use armageddon. It's not worth it

@applesauce5810 6 лет назад

King Stannis Uhh, have you heard of having multiple phoenixes? Fyi phoenixes aren't weak, they still hit like absolute trucks. And an Armageddon can easily wipe out almost everything the enemy has. If you have expert fire magic and maybe something along the lines of 15+ spell power, you are practically invincible. And getting 15+ spell power with a conflux hero is so easy that you can practically do it with your eyes closed. And there is literally a magic school that lets you learn basic fire magic for just 2000 gold.

@kingstannis1158 6 лет назад

Uhm implosion and orb of inhibition is a thing.

@applesauce5810 6 лет назад

King Stannis If the enemy has orb of inhibition, the enemy couldn't even cast implosion in the first place, and even if they had orb of inhibition, phoenixes still has the highest speed out of all troops. And trust me, they still hit hard, and they have a nice breath attack to go along with it. And considering they have a growth of 4, there isn't really anything that can contest with it early on. And you can still bring gold and black dragons, which also hit hard, efreeti also have immunity to fire, and they are fast, and annoying as hell to deal with. Like you don't have to only bring phoenixes with you, you can still add other fire immune troops, and you don't have to only bring the phoenixes along with you, just to cast Armageddon, and you don't even have to cast Armageddon if you're bringing the phoenixes, but imo I think that the Phoenix greatest strength lies within the fact that they are the fastest troop, they are really cheap, and they have fire immunity, which goes along perfectly with Armageddon.

@kvernesdotten 2 года назад

Why does half of these say "low att & def" and then at the same time "high attack" or "high defense" at the same time?

@blabla-rg7ky 6 лет назад

is... is that Sword of Judgement in the hand of the Archangel???? It does look like the SoJ, and if it's it... WOW. Been playing this game for 20 years and I only noticed this now. That sword looks awfully similar to the SoJ...

@theodoreglenn8230 6 лет назад

I'd say Titan is the best.

@kunevv 4 года назад

Stop screaming phoenix growth - guy just said it in the description. Thou I think we're missing some details here and there like devils basically fly and give -1 luck and Ghost D give -1 morale (most of them were mentioned already). What I don't see thou is AA have fixed damage so spells like bless/curse do not affect them + you know exactly how much they will hit for. Black Dragons (as their main rival for 1st place) has a range for his DMG roll (40-50). Additionally 1 detail for Black dragons - They're immune to all spells except: Expert Dispel and the pre-combat buffs from artifacts. This might or might not tip the scales but it's a nice twist in rare cases.

@andreimoldovanktms1649 5 лет назад

I like how you put bad ass at behemont =))

@alexssain 3 года назад

Ghost dragons always underated

@hjge1012 6 лет назад

I honestly don't see any situation in which arch devils are better than phoenixes. I'd also rank golden dragons lower, they are pretty 'meh' overall. I think you can make a case for the rest, but it really depends who you're playing against and what stage of the game you are in. Overall I'd really rank Phoenixes much higher -- arguably even #1. They are really fast, pretty cheap, not too hard to get and have high growth.

@paw1ak_248 5 лет назад

HJ GE in A 1v1 devils or Phoenix?

@edgarurbas3293 6 лет назад

ab is a badass that i like to have in my army but i am well avered of his weakneses sou i am just happy that he is in the middle of youre list)) with his skills and stats the middle is where he belongs )))

@Wikingking 5 лет назад

I find Ghost Dragon's aging skill more useful in late game than in early since it effects the whole stack. On the custom map Wayfarer aging stacks of 1000s of level 7 creatures came more handy than anything else. Yes, they are pretty crap otherwise.

@Farseer1995 6 лет назад

I have to very strongly disagree with your stance on Phoenixes as, in my opinion, they are one of the strongest tier 7 units. They have 200HP, which isn't at all that bad. I think they are relitively easier to have access to, as whenever I play against a Conflux opponent, they always seem to have an abnormal amount of this unit compared to other races at the same time of the game. Phoenixes excel because they move first, and paired with their fire breath attack, can immediately reduce your lower/mid units as well as the ranged ones. Whenever you think you have successfully slain them, they can resurrect at as much as 5(?) units, which is an additional catastrophe when fighting against them. At the time this unit attacks and decimates your range units, the other enemy troops will be moving in and you have no chance of picking them off from a distance. Just me two cents.

@walterw8223 5 лет назад

Black Dragon - Immune to Armageddon, Implosion, Blind, Slow, Berserk, Meteor Shower, Chain Lightning etc. - Creatures growth 3

@maximilianorlius336 4 года назад

No Growth 2

@user-kz3nx9rj8f 6 лет назад

Titans and Tower my only love in this fantastic game

@richiabosuli3193 6 лет назад

Tower is my favorite town :p

@theodoreglenn8230 6 лет назад

I like the wizard from homm2 slightly better.

@Cerulean0987 6 лет назад

Love them too. Too bad they didn't keep the same snow theme for them in the later games.

@synthiaxerror 5 лет назад

@@Cerulean0987 I have exactly the same thoughts!

@cursedsummoner 5 лет назад

I used to love Tower with its 3 archer units, until I started playing on higher difficulty and found that it's quite resource heavy (even if you don't count the Library and Titan).

@Tristan-nb6ld 6 лет назад

9. Ghost Dragons 8. Chaos Hydras 7. Phoenixes 6. Gold Dragons 5. Ancient Behemoths 4. Arch Devils 3. Black Dragons 2. Titans 1. Archangels *Although they all can be the best in the right circumstance... One Archangel is basically the same price as two Ancient Behemoths.

@kingstannis1158 6 лет назад

Black dragons >>>>>>> titans

@Tristan-nb6ld 6 лет назад

Disagree in most cases.

@user-rm5de3me8h 6 лет назад

No way Arch Devs are that high; they offer no buff. Also Gold Dragons have better speed, attack, and defense than Black Dragons despite the HP and 5th level spell gap. They shouldn't be that far removed. Mine 9 (assuming we're going by skills or else the double phoenix growth would make them much higher) : 9. Ghost Dragons 8. Chaos Hydras 7.Phoenix 6.Arch Devils 5. Ancient Behemoths 4. Gold Dragons 3. Black Dragons 2. Titans 1. Archs

@Tristan-nb6ld 6 лет назад

17 speed, no retaliation, -1 enemy luck. No buff? 10 Arch Devils can kill virtually anything with mass slow. Arch Devils are great units and the reason inferno isn't totally trash. As for the Dragons, Gold and Black are very similar yes, but +50 health and 5th level immunity I value higher than +1 speed, +2att/def.

@user-rm5de3me8h 6 лет назад

Inferno i kind of a middle-class castle imo; nothing stands out as being very good but there aren't any horrible creatures (besides demons maybe). Arch Devils are really not that good and if I'm playing on Impossible on a scenario like Tale of Two Lands I'd much rather see 20 Arch Devs guarding angel wings than 20, say, Ancient Behemoths.

@michaelwood5138 5 лет назад

For me Titans are the best.

@sergeyb.8112 6 лет назад

Thanks, man. 9. Ghost dragons (can play the whole game for Necro without them) 8. Chaos hydras 7. Phoenixes (melt like snow beneath the sun) 6. Gold dragons (can't be resurected) 5. Titans (range/walls penalty limits providing damage) 4. Black dragons (can't be resurected, great tank though) 3. Arch devils (no retaliation for tier 7 unit is just great, fast) 2. Behemoths (can kill almost everything) 1. Archangels Similar list for non-up units: 9. Bone dragons 8. Hydras 7. Giants 6. Behemoths 5. Green dragons 4. Fire birds (fast, cheap, not too weaker than Phoenixes) 3. Red dragons (can be resurected + high prob of the spell for D.) 2. Devils (still no retaliation! and good stat) 1. Angels (best damage/health)

@richiabosuli3193 6 лет назад

Nice lists, I would put Arch devils a bit lower in the upgraded list and hydras a bit higher in the non upgraded list.

@sergeyb.8112 6 лет назад

The reason I evaluate devils/arch devils so high is 'no retaliation'. It allows to apply parthian tactics of 'hit and go', that is vary promising. You can do a lot with a few :) Mayhap 1 devil is even better than 1 angel due to his ability, for larger numbers angels. of course. better.

@richiabosuli3193 6 лет назад

I see, Arch devils are good, I just think they are a bit overpriced. I mean they are more expensive then Black and Gold dragons and considerably more expensive then Ancient behemoths, and I really don't think they are that much better to justify the price.

@LeaksHater 5 лет назад

Serj Jo , i am completely againts archdevils. I think they are realy bad with their low dmg and hp

@cursedsummoner 5 лет назад

@@LeaksHater If only they had an ability to bypass the Pit Fiends unit count limit on Demon resurrection or something. Only strategy (let's call it decent) would be to take advantage of the no retaliation soooo, Clone it with expect Water Magic have him and the clone attack, with no retaliation the opponent is still left to deal with the clone. (way to much effort imo and Efreet Armageddon is easier)

@Tocha_official 5 лет назад

I would put Phoenixes for my 1st rank above AA. They have 4 advantages: 1. The fastest unit in the game: In this game, speed is king. If you had phoenixes in your army, you can move first, cast either mass haste / prayers and then mass slow on the 2nd round and the enemy will grovel at your feet big time. 2. Very cheap: With conflux, I can buy all the units in my castle and will still have some spare left for other things. It's not something that can be done with the others. 3. Very good growth rate: In the long run, 3 months worth of phoenixes will no doubt defeat 3 months worth of AA. And better yet, we can buy all of those phoenixes in 3 months than AA because they are so cheap. 4. The fastest unit in the game: I couldn't stress this enough.

@rikitheslayer3835 5 лет назад

You forgot that pheonixes have also hightest growth. You can buy 4 creauteres insted of 2, which is awesome

@cursedsummoner 5 лет назад

Apparently this is the list with them at +2 growth and I'm OK with that :D

@mangobingo9406 3 года назад

I wanted to do some math and see how the factions fared as a whole, so I added up all the scores to see the average score given to each faction and the results go as follows: 1. Castle - Average Score: 3 2. Rampart - Average Score: 3,85 3. Tower - Average Score: 4,28 4. Dungeon - Average Score: 4,85 5. Necropolis - Average Score: 5,28 6. Stronghold - Average Score = 5,42 7. Fortress - Average Score = 5,71 8. Conflux - Average Score = 6 9. Inferno - Average Score = 6,42

@calise616 3 года назад

What is the basis for this score? Only the creatures? Because as a faction, Necropolis and Conflux are simply the strongest.

@IXIWineIXI 4 года назад

Nothing is better than black drags period. They are immune, fast, 300 hp and hits hard as hell. What makes them better than angels are two things. One they are immune to spells and two it has splash damage.

@jacobomartinezmartinez5811 5 лет назад

I agree 80%

@ToxaKaRp 5 лет назад

Pros: - Looks awesome. LOL

@tautvydasa77 6 лет назад

You have to agree that this list needs some corrections but why didnt u include cove?

@richiabosuli3193 6 лет назад

If I decide to redo the list in the future, I will include Haspids.

@tautvydasa77 6 лет назад

yea and try to include everything into consideration even the price of the building

@xyzcv5 5 лет назад

Overlooked Chaos Hydras' cons: no fly, no shoot.

@VonKrauzer 6 лет назад

Chaos Hydras maybe have a low damage if used in a single target. But one should always seek for opportunity to use them on two or more targets, because then they deal double, triple or more damage for just one hit. Not even Ancient Behemots can boast that. It's all about how you utilise their ability. Hiting multiple targets around you with no retaliation is a tremendously cool ability.

@cursedsummoner 5 лет назад

There is also the Heroes affinity to Water Magic ... teleport them to the best spot and let them wreak havoc.

@RabianskiT 3 года назад

S tier: Archangels A tier: Black Dragons, Titans, Pheonixes B tier: Behemoths, Haspids, Gold Dragons, Arch Devils C tier: Chaos Hydras (they would be so much nicer with unlimited retaliations!) D tier: Ghost Dragons

@DR4C44N 6 лет назад

I would switch the black dragons with the archangels just because of the magic immunity really. But hey...I myself am a rampart/inferno loving guy so meh :P

@richiabosuli3193 6 лет назад

They are very close but Archangels are better imo. They really are the perfect level 7 unit, their only downside is that they are expensive, but they are worth it.

@TBM1121 2 года назад

We might not agree on all the rankings, but we do agree on the pros for Ancient Behemoth.

@neoplante 3 года назад

i'd put phoenix on 4th. they have insane growth and highest speed. because of their speed they always go first and because of fire immunity you can cast armageddon on first turn and destroy enemy before he begins.

@user-gn9ii8tn4o 5 лет назад

Since you put firebird no.1 among the unupgraded units. Why Phoenix is no.7here?they both have huge advantage in numbers(4per week). In horn of abyss version, the game has debuffed their numbers, becuz they're too op

@user-gn9ii8tn4o 5 лет назад

Btw: I really appreciate your videos. Keep up the good work!

@andreimiga8101 6 лет назад

You said hydra can attack uo to 7 units at once. I am pretty sure it is way more, basically all it's adjacent hexes

@cursedsummoner 5 лет назад

In theory, maybe, there are a few things to consider here. 1. Hydra being a two hex unit means that you have I think 10 hexes adjacent to it 2. The opponent has 7 slots for army (here the elemental summoning can help) 3. Other castles you will be facing will have their own two hex units 4. If they are all attacking the hydra you may already be in a loosing situation (Gooooo Resurrect) This of course is counting the 10 hex adjacent which maybe 6?? Haven't used them so much cuz their a bit too slow without expert teleport.

@Broekje 5 лет назад

Have Phoenix. Cast mass haste or mass slow. Win the game.

@HuyNguyen-jl7go 5 лет назад

against AI .

@rkarcade7417 4 года назад

Hydras - retaliation not reteliation. Just tiny correction.

@tuck295q Год назад

You forgot Titan pro: -Range -no melee penalty And for Archdemon pro: - luck decrease

@Turkisshh2 3 года назад

Aging is not ineffective in late game. It's just very unstable/situational.

@TyphonLeTitan 5 лет назад

I'll be honest it is hard to do a list like this. Each unit can be the best depending of the situation of the combat.

@m.j.torque511 4 года назад

I agree. My list is different from his, so it depends on the person's perspective on how these units are personally used by this player. I would rank Chaos Hydra and Ancient Behemoths higher than their rating here. You see, there are a lot of ways to offset their speed issue. In playing fortress, it's a must for me to get Tazar as my hero. Thrn Expert Water Magic for 4 very important spells. -Teleport: Chaos Hydra, Myghty Gorgon, Greater Basilisks -Clone: A cloned hydra/ gorgon can be devastating. - Cure: Being Tazar as my hero, this spell is worth a bunch - Prayer: nuff said. No retaliation allows a unit to gain more hits than the opposing unit that doesn' have this skill. Think of it like hitting the opponent's unit twice in one turn.

@paulvontarsus729 5 лет назад

Pick Adela, get strong and get 50 angels with diplomacy.

@4rgenn 3 года назад

My List in a media of maps and heroes's skill: 1) Archangel ( best stats, secure dmg, resurrect) 2) Ancient Behemoth ( Sorry but this guy is the beast, you can have him in the first week, so after 3 weeks you can easly have 5 Ancient Behemoth, while other player only 2 final units, often even not upgraded, so in a fight behemoth just easly take down everything in enemy army! fucking insane!) 3) Black Dragon ( high stats, magic immunity) 4) Phoenix ( super growth, incredible speed, always first magic, immune to armageddon and other) 5) Achdevil ( always very underrated, in HOTA he had 2 decrease luck, no relation and good speed, even the 1 slot size is awesome in siege, and can kill enemy archangels, so) 6) Titans ( high stats, ranged, mind immunity, but slow and very expensive to unlock) 7) Gold dragon ( 4th immunity is stupid, can take implosion but not resurrection and other boost wtf, all stats under black dragon) 8) Hydra ( awesome in defense and siege with teleport, but too slow and quite weak without tactics) 9) Ghost Dragon ( uselfull only in late game with agis)

@sielvagys Год назад

1. Archangel 2. Arch Devil 3. Titan 4. Beghemot 5. Black dragon 6. Gold dragon 7. Phoenix 8. Chaos hydra 9. Ghost dragon

@markolumovic2750 3 года назад

Ancient Behemoth is only creature that can kill Archangel 1vs1.And it looks totally badass.In Heroes 4 it just looks like an ape huge letdown from Heroes 3 Behemoths.

@Tibor0803 9 месяцев назад

Nobody wants to talk about our savior the one and only Haspid?

@ridvanyalciner715 6 лет назад

Interesting 1 : Phoenix 2 : Arcangel 3 : Titan 4 : Behemont or Hydra 6 : Black Dragon 7 : Gold Dragon or Arc Devil 9 : Ghost Dragon

@bleflar9183 6 лет назад

I agree but i think gold and black dragons are above Behemot and hydra.

@ridvanyalciner715 6 лет назад

Behemont best VS unit and Hydra good defender unit...

@KamusRetroGamer 5 лет назад

Haha, n00b

@bleflar9183 5 лет назад

Well, why dont you tell us why do you think so?

@KamusRetroGamer 5 лет назад

Put Titan over Black Dragon is the most n00b. Black Dragon attacks first with 50% extra dmg... ALWAYS beats easly (very)

@Skorpion1991 4 года назад

lol, Golden Dragon "cons: lower hp than Black Dragon" but you should notice that he has +2 atack and +2 defense than black dragon and in the same amout with the same stats golden dragons are beating black dragons... I could say that being vulnerable for 5th lvl spells is very bad because there is not many supporting spells on this lvl but there is implosion and thats one bad thing with him

@necronmaster 5 лет назад

Behemots are the best at vs mode... 80% less defense makes him awesome...

@takostudio3354 4 года назад

Guys If you really though you saw the definition of the ultra-f***uppery which means nothing can stop you from destroying everything in your path, there's one more thing or rather character. Sir Mullich with his +2(! ) speed boost to all of your units has no competition. Archangel with 20 hexes speed.. Insane dmg for your champion jousting, crusaders devastating double attack especially with great morale and luck basically Murders everything that exist. Change my mind 😈

@calise616 3 года назад

You completely missed the topic, I fear. :-)

@DaDunge 3 года назад

Yeah I think Titans are more powerful than blackdragons and angels. A good stack of titans will get rid of an enemy stack every turn. You can't hide from it.

@llVIU 6 лет назад

you shouldn't add ''looks awesome'' to the list of pros... that's really stupid. But thanks for the video anyway. But you're not focusing enough on the building required, resources or flight. For example behemonth is very cheap and easy to build (building requirements) whereas titan is CRAZY expensive. Also, you underestimate phoenix... 2 of them get generated per week. I think 2 phoenix would kill 1 of any other unit

@richiabosuli3193 6 лет назад

Lol that wasn't supposed to be taken seriously.. And you are right about buildings and resources, I can get behemoths in week 1 and other level 7's much later, I could have added that. I included Phoniex' with normal growth of 2, if I took into account their real growth they would have easily been number 1.

@zivansimrak36 Год назад

The Black dragon is the strongest of them all!

@DOGEreal Год назад

nah

@bleflar9183 6 лет назад

Pheonix should be first or second place. Why? Becouse they have double growth.

@bleflar9183 6 лет назад

And speed is more important than it seems.

@loveyuiz 6 лет назад

No Azure Dragon ?

@comebacksa2480 5 лет назад

azure dragon is level 10th creature

@messhidan4325 5 лет назад

For me its best Behemoth :D

@rivenhraje8208 3 года назад

black dragons are best level 7 units in hmom

@calise616 3 года назад

In HoMM2, yes.

@kojubuthreep 6 лет назад

1st class titan.angel.behemoth. 2nd class undead dragon(easy revive).devil.pheonix 3rd class up dragons. hydra. Up dragons can not revive that caused weakness to army strength.

@kojubuthreep 6 лет назад

I think, you don't know behemoth.

@dmitryvasiliev2718 Год назад

One on one Behemoth is the strongest! It kills even an Archangel!

@toaderalex281 6 лет назад

Ancient Behemoths i think should be higher

@kamilbuszta6596 3 года назад

You forgot that titans shoots

@johnjunior9156 4 года назад

Ancient Behemoth Pros: - Badass (fuking annoying)

@jakubkosina2310 3 года назад

Ok. My list. 9. arch devil 8. ghoast dragon 7. Gold dragon 6 a hydra 5 Black dragon 4. Phoenix 3. Behemoth 2. Titan 1. Archangel.

@dzsun4413 3 года назад

How the fuck are behemoths better then Black dragons?

@DOGEreal Год назад

@@dzsun4413 Much better build path, much cheaper and cost efficient, extremely good build path, essential for Stronghold.

@myrdin9216 4 года назад

Pheonix is definitely the best. It is all about growth.

@msfritz9158 5 лет назад

I think Phoenix should be higher up because, well, it's irreplacable. Also Devils are weaker than Hydras.

@localidiot3868 5 лет назад

Not gonna lie ya' fam,if the pheonix had his original growth,It would be better than da archangels

@jinku77 Год назад

Ancient Behemoths...pros....badass 😂😂😂😂😂

@mishaloginov2565 6 лет назад

Here isnt said that phoenix have dabl grow against other. And this realy changes situation.

@tianbochen8477 6 лет назад

Pros of phenix: double growth

@pedro6508 3 года назад

I would put arch devil above golden dragons. Arch devils can be ressurected, lowers enemy luck and dont get retaliated. Golden dragons can get nuked with implosion and cant be ressurected.

@DOGEreal Год назад

I agree. You forgot to mention the most important argument by far, Gold Dragons, for some reason, have like the WORST build path in the entire game. You would literally bet 8k Gold just to play Inferno instead of Rampart in JO because it's impossible to build up the Dragons.

@user-xn2bv3lx9v 6 лет назад

Очеь глупый топ, потому что практика показала, что феникс крутой юнит и версии sod запрещено грейдить их. Первая скорость и комбо с армагом делает их топ 1 юнитом

@drezden6548 5 лет назад

+ ко всему очень дешёвые и прироста больше.

@carlosmorenos8766 5 лет назад

How is phoenix NOT the best unit? 6th place? I mean, archangels are sooo good, but pls, fastest unit in the game (you can always cast the first spell in battle), twice units as the rest a week, resurrects, breath attack...I strongly disagree with you in this one.

@cursedsummoner 5 лет назад

Apparently this is the list with them at +2 growth and I'm OK with that :D

@viking_II 6 лет назад

Titans are the favorite of everyone, the only problem they have is that they are slow, and all the Tower army is slow too, fortunately they have the most durable units, the best level 6 unit, the fearless Nagas (in defensive tactics), many golems, you need a good strategy to make Titans works, while for a new player Castle is the safe choice.

@richiabosuli3193 6 лет назад

Yes and the fact that they have 3 ranged units is also very useful and reduces their downside in speed.

@Cerulean0987 6 лет назад

One mass haste or slow spell cancels out this "weakness". The enemy is toast.

@LeaksHater 5 лет назад

Viking II dread knights are best lv6

@nezhakan 5 лет назад

aging totally destroys enemy lvl6 and lvl7 units. It`s very strong at any stage of the game. But so random and this weak dragons didn`t have chance for second strike.

@iteo2977 6 лет назад

Right, but 2 Phoenixes are better than any level 7 unit.

@knesseli7664 6 лет назад

Omg why 24 dislikes? This video is awesome

@richiabosuli3193 6 лет назад

Thanks, different opinions I guess..

@samuricexful 6 лет назад

I hated how it seemed like Gold Dragon was just an in between red and black dragons. Poorly designed unit, should've had something else besides green and gold dragons.

@user-pp7pf4sy8x 3 года назад

Oh no! Behemoth so low!!!

@Gingerlocks35 5 лет назад

How is badass a pro? xD

@mark85xxx 3 года назад

Arcangel ancient behemoth and phenix should be top 3

@MegaKirile 3 года назад

Behemoths are the best tier 7 unit

@alparslan3206 5 лет назад

black dragon best.Cas of no implosion..

@Atarosek 5 лет назад

Phoniex at 7th XD grow 4 + special regeneration =1st

@cursedsummoner 5 лет назад

don't forget the speed man

@SonofSkyrim01 Год назад

For me titans are better than black dragons.Titan can get buffs and black dragon not.Titans have higher dmg than black dragons.

@teodordanielescu3250 6 лет назад

You royally screwed up this one man

@richiabosuli3193 6 лет назад

What would you change ?

@teodordanielescu3250 6 лет назад

Behemoths are late game monsters. More powerful than any other tier 7. They might not deserve first spot on your list, but they should be higher. Also, you never took into consideration that phoenixes have a growth of 2 per week(4 with castle). That and their absurd speed makes them very strong. Otherwise, i think your list is nice and you should keep up the good work. Maybe you should try stronghold on a giant map. You will definetely feel that behemoth strenght. Much love

@richiabosuli3193 6 лет назад

Thanks. Yeah behemoths are monsters, maybe I would place them above Gold dragons but the top 3 are all more useful and well rounded units than behemoths imo. I wrote in the description that I didn't took the Phoenix' growth into account, if I did I would've placed them in the number 1 spot.

@richiabosuli3193 6 лет назад

I tried 200*7 Phoniex' against 100*7 Ancient Behemoths, with the same hero stats and no spells, and the Phoenix' won decisively..

@jakubkosina2310 3 года назад

Disagree with ancient behemoth. its strongest unit 7... They are only slow. Thats the problem. If you try go 10 ancient behemoths vs 10 archangels in editor with heroes with same stats = Best is 0. Behemoths will win! And doesnt matter archangels go first strike. But yeah archangels are most usefull units but not the strongest.

@DOGEreal Год назад

Brawling isn't the only thing that matters man.