Mad respect for the humble way to breakdown the bold claim that the U.S did something based on hearsay. I can understand the scientific process to conclude that but to definitively say it doesn't seem fair either. Glad you made your stance on it clear to your viewers
I suppose the Russians took out their own pipeline? When they could have just shut the valve on their end? Americans with this view should rush to enlist their sons and daughters ASAP..
great convo guys and great example of the abiity to have civil disagreements. there are fundamental natural truths between what is and what should be and can be evidenced with right vision. Doomberg is a master at plain pointing out these dichotomies and greys !
Americans that deny that the US took out the Nordstrom pipe line would also choose to believe that their wife wasn't having an affair even if they saw her walk out of a motel room with another man when she claimed that she was actually shopping with her girlfriends lol.
It’s completely okay to say “based on the information I’ve seen, I THINK X did it”. Whats logically unsound is saying X definitively did it and then presenting no hard evidence. To Doomberg’s exact point, just as if the US had evidence of someone doing it would’ve been released - the same exact logic applies to Russia.
When x says they are going to do sumpin sumpin if a line is crossed and then sumpin sumpin happens, then the most logical conclusion is that X carried out their specific threat. X would be found guilty due to such evidence in a court of law. Motive, Threat, Capability and Opportunity= GUILTY BooM 😁 @@OutlierTrading
And thankfully the justice system requires a much higher burden of proof as we'd have even more innocent people incarcerated than we already do. The "sumpin sumpin" you're referring to, and misconstruing, WAS acted upon. When the WH coordinated w/ Germany to halt certification of the pipeline and impose sanctions. Taking that to an operation to blow up the pipeline (while not outlandish whatsoever) still, by absolutely no means serves as proof of the action you're suggesting. Again, nothing wrong with having assumptions, hypothesis, etc. I prefer to deal in facts and provable theories. The fact is, nobody has proof of who did what, otherwise it would've been released already. The follow on fact is while we might have ideas who did what, they're ideas - not facts.
Same logic doesn't apply. Russia was profiting from the pipeline, now the U.S. profits from selling nat gas to Germany. Geez wake up! @@OutlierTrading
Russia nuclear arsenal capabilities are questionable. Have the Russians been maintaining them? Are they advance as they say? But anyways I support the US supplying weapons to Ukraine. Russia has to be stopped somehow and supporting Ukraine benefits the USA tremendously. For one if we are able to stop Russia from taking over Ukraine we are now friends with a country with a huge amount of resources that will be supplying those resources to Europe and we also have the chance to collapse The current Russia government. This will solidify the USA being the number one country for another 100 years. If this does not happen Russia will be a huge problem in the future just because of the endless amount of resources they have and the world will need.
The US has had a pernicious appetite to confiscate or control foreign Sovereign resources for the last 50 years. That way of thinking has led to Wars in iraq, syria, Libya and the desire for war with Iran. What have we gained from that? PLEASE talk to some veterans from any of those conflicts.
Russia has to be stopped somehow? The US is the country that has started five Wars since I was a child. And each one was later proved to be baseless. Russia has not been in a war since afghanistan. So you want Russia's resources, don't you think the The Establishment here in American politics hasn't been thinking about that for decades? The only reason they didn't steal them years ago is because Russia has 10,000 nuclear weapons. And if you weren't listening to this interview, they are much more advanced and more highly maintained and modern than what the US government or NATO possesses. America has been a predatory thieving Nation since the Vietnam era. And your advocating for taking resources that belong to others makes you sound like a common, low-life thief. Classy..
ngl - had no idea what "sycophant" was. looked it up, had another word in the definition I didn't know: "obsequiously".. so we've confirmed I'm an idiot but thanks for teaching me 2 new words!
