Top Features of The Multi-Function Router Base | PART 1 | Woodpeckers Deep Dive 

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The MFRB doesn't have or need a groove to fit a guide rail track. The straight edge guiding the cut could have been anything, even a nice straight piece of scrap stock.

Interesting question, Michael. You just fed the Deep Dive subject machine. Watch for it!

I would call the 1400 the weak sister of the Festool line when it comes to dust pick up. Better than most, but not as good as the 2200. They're all weak on dadoes and roundovers....except the 2200. It is pretty amazing.

@@WoodpeckersLLC will this work with the 2200?

Yes, it will. Watch the main product video and you'll see it used on a 2200 quite a bit. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8iEIQL1bZLI.html

@@WoodpeckersLLC thank you! A must buy in that case

This can be used with many routers. Check out our website under the multi function routines and scroll down to specifications and FAQa you will see all the routers that are compatible along with other important information.

Plunge is the best choice for use with the MFRB.

This has been thought about but keep an eye out because we will have another new version coming out soon!

@Woodpeckers Stop it right now! I'm going to nip this in the bud. I just bought a 1281 and it is simply great. If you go and make another version, say in S.S., what am I supposed to do, buy another one? 😁

@@toolchuck I want stainless steel. Woohoo

@dave daved I think my 12” Starrett will probably have to do me, but I am getting the 1812 SS on Friday, so there, neener-neener, 😜 I just got my 1281 yesterday, man that thing is so nice!

@@toolchuck if shooting a bullet at a unknown square is coming out in a few days. Then we need to know what it is now because I wanna know what woodpeckers square offerings like NOW. I want a solid stainless steel 1281.

It's a pain, but I take it out, adjust, put it back in and make the cut. Sometimes, if you just open the slider, you can see your marks.

Direction doesn't matter...just whatever is most comfortable for the operator. I didn't even notice that I had the little router mounted one way and the big router mounted the other. The Festool routers have a very secure grip on the guide rods. That tends to make me forget to put the brace on. In a critical cut, I would take the time to put the brace on.

It's on the main product page www.woodpeck.com/multi-function-router-base.html At the bottom, click the "Specifications/FAQ" tab. You want the 3/8" rods.

@@WoodpeckersLLC Mandy hooked me up over there. I have many of your rulers and other products. We have a shortage of plywood here because of Ida and having a hard time finding affordable cabinet grade materials.

What the answer?

The guide rods are available in pairs. One unit plus one extra set of guide rods has you covered.

I understand but they are available to order and estimate shipping out in July

@@WoodpeckersLLC Any update on the shipping? It's 7/30 and there hasn't been an update yet for those of use who ordered in February. Thank you.

That might be a nice option, but that track could have been anything that was straight.

@@WoodpeckersLLC I agree wholeheartedly with Peter Kelly on this. Many woodworking gurus advise against using the flat side of a router base (when flat and round sides are available) because of the possibility of the base shifting away from the guide and thus off the line of cut. This exactly the same scenario. For me it would be a white-knuckle operation, hoping to keep the base firmly against the guide. Not interested. When you add an adapter to lock the base to the rail, so it can only slide but not move away, let me know and I'll reconsider.

@@marknkatz we tested this and the width of the base seems to mitigate those issues. But we understand but watch out for other future additions.

According to the chart found on that page, 3/8".

If you need any additional information you can also find some great information on our website under the Multi-Function Router Base. Scroll down to the specifications &FAQs. You will see all types of routers that can be used with this tool.

The outboard clamp is a cool feature, and I use it most of the time...until I forget. I am vigilant about using it when I'm dadoing. But, less so when using the base to support edge forming. Chalk it up to laziness. Best practice is to use it all the time. Did that sound a little bit like "Do what I say, not what I do"? Sorry.

@@WoodpeckersLLC Sounds like a reasonable and honest answer to me! If nothing else it implies that the support rods likely resist lateral movement more than I was expecting, which is a good thing.

Edward, the router stays very stationary on the base without the clamp. With the clamp it is rock solid. It's more than enough to overcome tendency for the router to slide on the base.

@@WoodpeckersLLC Thank you, BTW, my woodworking friends razz me over my "Woodpecker Wall". They think, and rightfully so that my shop looks like like a Woodpecker store. 🤣 Of course, they all love using my stuff.

Almost any router that has attachment points for guide rods will work. On the product page of our web site www.woodpeck.com/multi-function-router-base.html scroll toward the bottom of the page and click on the "Specifications/FAQs" tab. There's a chart with most current production routers on it and a guideline for checking out older routers to make sure they'll work.

Je ne crois pas qu'il y a des concessionaires en Europe, monsieur. J'habite en France et je commande des outils du Royaume-Uni, l'Allemagne et l'Autriche. Je n'ai jamais vu les outils de Woodpeckers ici. Cependant, le fabricant les offre la plupart de leur outils celui-là deux échelles métrique et Imperial dans les États-Unis.

Sean, it depends on which Bosch router. And as of 10 minutes ago, it works with even more routers. If your router base is drilled for guide rods, and the rods can go through, it will most likely fit. We make rods in 5/16" (8mm), 3/8" (9.5mm) and 10mm. We've also just decided to add 1/4", which will work with 7mm holes, too. The small rods aren't on the web site yet, but they will be the first of the week. Check the holes in your router base using drill bits to measure the hole size.

$500? Where did that come from? It's $249.99 every day.

Maker is a whiner

Several key upgrades and when comparing apples to apples on what is standard, only a little more expensive.

I have the same one but collects dust most of the time.

I was wondering the same thing. I don't have a festool. Just heard there supposed to be the best tools on the market. 😂😂😂😂

@@sinsofvorador I actually have the same festool router he is using in the video and the dust collection is fantastic. I'm just wondering if there is something about this base that is preventing the dust collection from working

@@rond1962 Mine works great also. Dust collection was not in the design apparently!

It's in Part 2. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-V9XJ7S9_bCA.html

Nothing complicated at all

We can put an end to that for you, George!

This does not come with a systainer it will be in a box. We looked into it but it would add too much to the cost. I can not promise that it would fit into a sys1.

@Woodpeckers OK, side note, I see where to order WP sys1's, but can I get a WP black hard plastic case like the one that comes with the ULTRA-SHEAR PEN MILL CI, or the Saw Gauge 2.0, or anything close in that size?

@@toolchuck This is Jeff. The MFRB will fit in a Sys1. There's not much room for padding, but it does fit. I don't think any of the blow-molded cases we have in stock would work.

@@WoodpeckersLLC OK, Jeff, 'SKU: MFRB-38-21" is on the list right behind the Super Fence and Micro Adjust. I just have to wait for the four squares you talked into purchasing to cool down with the wife first, sometime next month is my best guess, then I can make a move on the SF and MA. But I can use a blow-mold case now for my ULTRA-SHEAR-PEN-MANDREL, the "Tube" it came in just isn't working out. I can't find a good place to store it that I can get to, or remember where the heck I put it. Do you have one that is the same, or close to the same size of the ULTRA-SHEAR PEN MILL CI? If so, I could just store them next to each other? Thanks!

While I don't own the CRB7, in a brief comparison just looking at the videos from both, I would say they are very similar. However the CRB is available now and can likely be in your workshop in a week, versus the estimated ship date of July 31. That aside, a few reviewers of the crb7 cited that the micro adjust can be a bit hard to use.

I watched the M power video. Functionality wise both extend capability of the router but the Woodpecker version looks to be better built and includes an edge fence which is a 30$ optional add on for M power. M power also shows an optional trim guide with a bearing but trim router bits have a bearing so this seems redundant. I assume that the Woodpecker would accommodate bushing applications.

I have the CRB7, and to be honest I just don't like it. It's impossible to center my router (Bosch MR23MVS) as Jeff did at the start of this video. The base if pretty flimsy. I don't think the micro adjuster is very smooth. I've used it on several projects, but I normally don't bother b/c the setup is so finicky. I agree with Charles Korman in that it seems the base, fence and micro adjuster is much better built. On the positive side, the M. Power unit does have a edge trimming kit that would seem to be useful.

I have the CRB7. The CRB7 is not compatible with the Festool OF 1400 router. Or rather the micro-adjust will not work with that router, bu the Woodpeckers MFRB will. I haven't seen the Woodpeckers' in person, but it looks a bit nicer and in my eyes it looks better engieered. The CRB7 feels a bit cheap and flimsy. If the Woodpeckers Multi-function Router Base came in a systainer, I would buy it and retire the CRB7.

Patrick, the router needs a base that is made for guide rods. That includes most, but not all routers. It is usable with fixed base routers, but a plunge router makes the project go smoother and faster. So ideal is a mid-sized plunge router with bores for guide rods.

What the MFRB brings to the party is the ability to adjust the width of the dado without moving the straight edge. If you were using the base of the router (straight or round, either one), you would have to move the straight edge to make the dado wider and getting it exactly parallel to the first setting is pretty tough.

@@WoodpeckersLLCthis is a cool feature and the micro adjustability is incredibly useful but wouldn't it have made more sense to have the end of the base that rides against the straight edge round. This prevents against user error. I do understand that it is a pretty heafty base so maybe its not too hard to keep the straight edge right against the straight edge. Just a thought though

Lol

Michael -- I understand your frustration. Since you compared Kreg and Woodpecker, let's look at the two business models to see if we can come up with an answer to your lament about Woodpecker. Kreg is a mass marketer of woodworking tools and jigs. Their tools are sold through Home Depot, Lowes, Woodcraft, Rockler, Ace, etc. Their model requires Kreg to make huge volumes to supply all those outlets for their tools. In contrast, Woodpecker does not make tools and jigs for the mass market. It makes a variety of very high-quality tools in small batches. Small batches are necessary because it would be much more expensive for Woodpecker acquire enough space and machinery to keep each of their products in continuous production. By having customers preorder their tools, Woodpecker is able to accurately size each batch to meet demand. Again, this reduces the cost of making each batch. Imagine how much it would cost the company to have a few hundered of each product sitting on shelves waiting months or years to be sold! Note: I am NOT saying Kreg or Woodpecker's business model is better or worse than the other's. Each has adopted a model that is appropriate for the kind of market it is serving and the type of products it makes.

@@DKWalser I would agree with you if this is a One Time Tool, buts it’s not. Kreg is a bad example. I own a bunch of Woodpeckers tools and this new One Time Tool marketing approach to new items that will be standard stock is a new approach they have taken and just stating I don’t like the approach.

If it's RED, it's high

@@JimInNM430 That's the truth

Is the CRB7 made in USA? That is the one thing that is guaranteed when you buy from Woodpeckers.

@@BadenCIG It is made in the UK. Personally I am okay paying more for the Woodpeckers product as I am in the USA but I can understand why some folks might not like the price.

@@BadenCIG I don't think it is made in the us but what is not much. even cars made here have a lot of parts & electronics made overseas or in Mexico or Canada

It works with any router that has guide rods. I know Festool routers are expensive, but they're so smooth and so quiet you tend to forget how much you paid for them.

@@WoodpeckersLLC yes, we Germans know what we do, especially when we live in the south, around Stuttgart or Munich :-) And your Boss, Richard Hummel (or his parents) are also from Germany AFAIK?

Early Christmas present.

The engineering work is done, the product has been field-tested, the marketing work has been completed but there's no machine time available and we're in a holding pattern for raw material (like every other manufacturer). You want us to just sit on it until we can make them? Sorry you have to wait, but we're doing everything we can to catch up. Shutting down the development program is not the solution.

No hostility intended, just trying to give you an honest answer. We would love to be able to deliver tools immediately after releasing them. But we don't have enough equipment or manpower to make that happen. We're adding machinery, buildings and people as fast as we can.

Lol

Its another dust collecting waste of money gadget!

@@JDDupuy lol

But, not everyone has Festool routers and not all Festool router owners have the guide rail attachment. Nothing against that system, I use it myself, but it can't do arcs.

@@WoodpeckersLLC true about the router. But they have a fairly simple attachment that one can attach to the router for doing arcs and circular cutouts. Price wise, it would be less cost for me to get that piece, along with a thirty dollar micro adjust and I'd still be ahead cost wise, so i could spend it on another part for doing mortise and tenon.

@@dylanm3519 Get what is going to work for you, but I will point out that the Festool trammel can't go either as large or as small as ours and has no micro-adjustment. I think our MFRB packs a bunch of functions into a very easy to use package. I will agree that a track follower would be a nice addition.

Not true

All of our pricing is on our website www.woodpeck.com

They give you prices on everything..... Go to the website and stop complaining

Sorry you were offended. We stopped asking for subs in the opening over a year ago, but we didn't go back and re-edit years of videos.

Your comment is so useful 😂😂. Whine somewhere else dude.

It's only slow because you are slow