Absolute madness!! Who else thinks Vegeta’s new form is 🔥? Starting next week, we’ll be watching each remaining episode individually as per a lot of your requests! Episodes 126, 127 & 128 are all available on Patreon for early access! www.patreon.com/carlie_and_ange
@Abomination45 he's the main character so obvously he's gonna have plot armor jist like literally every other main character in any other anime, movie or TV show.
@@geokashi357 Not really. The fact that Goku is the main character and actually a character that Toriyama likes means he gets the ultimate plot armor. One way or another most victories against major villains are because of Goku. He has the most epic fights, the most epic moments and most transformations are designed for him specifcally. To give you a perfect example of Goku's armor you have to look back at the Cell saga. Even though both Vegeta and Goku got an equal amount of time in the hyperbolic time chamber Vegeta was only able to reach Super Saiyan Grade 3 whereas Goku and Gohan were able to reach Grade 4 A.K.A Mastered Super Saiyan. This is especially interesting because Vegeta is often categorized as a fighting prodigy. One that always thinks during the fight and tries to outsmart his opponent. Regardless he wasn't able to reach a level beyond Super Saiyan Grade 3 somehow. The real reason? Because Toriyama dislikes Vegeta ( as clarified by himself ) and therefore he wouldn't do anything to intentionally make Vegeta look better or equally as good as Vegeta. Both Vegeta's unique transformations weren't even designed by him.
@@CarlosHuiskensI’m sure there’s a lot of favoritism, but Goku being a faster progresser and better at training is a consistent part of their characters, and has been present in other parts of the series as well, not just the hyperbolic time chamber. Goku was properly taught how to train by multiple masters, and was taught the value of resting, in-universe, Goku is almost always ahead of Vegeta in terms of power because he knows these things and trains correctly. Vegeta on the other hand simply pushes his body to the breaking point and goes even beyond that. It works. He’s almost always at the very least rivaling Goku or just behind, but it’s not as efficient as Goku’s training method. Vegeta is a genius and a good strategist as well, he figured out that there were levels beyond super saiyan at the same time as Goku did, he immediately recognized the inefficiency of the 3rd grade even if he didn’t figure out the 4th in his 1st time in the HTC, but even then, upon seeing Goku and Gohan out the time chamber, he immediately figured out what they did to achieve the 4th grade while the others (Trunks included) were still trying to figure out how. Vegeta is a prodigy and managed to progress to where he is without mentors or training, but his training methods are simply not as efficient as Goku’s.
This part of the tournament of power was dynamite vegeta getting his own brand of super Saiyan blue really shows what a perfect rival he is for Goku and Goku and vegetas partnership against jiren really shows how they are smart enough to put aside their Saiyan pride and work together it also shows they've grown to be sort of brothers even though they would never admit it
Goku doesnt mind helping vegeta. He doesnt mind being helped by Vegeta. Goku wouldnt mind calling vegeta his brother, or at the very least hed say that he and vegeta may have started as enemies but theyve grown into close friends. Vegeta is the only one who wouldnt admit, and would refuse helping / being helped by goku
Seeing Goku and Vegeta power up together and transform is an iconic moment for me in the ToP especially after watching Dragonball Z since a child. It carries a lesson that no matter where you came from (Vegeta as a villain) and even if your behind in life compared to others (Vegeta being behind Goku) deep down you have the potential to change and shatter your own limitations as you go beyond them.
Fun fact; thats not the move frieza used to destroy planet vegeta, though the animation does make it look similar. In actuality, that is the attack that frieza used to destroy planet namek, when he fought ssj goku, destroying the planets core and fighting him to its last moments.
I remember watching this series as well with my husband , he waited for my every reaction to the good parts ; and I think he's happy ; your reactions are also beautiful , it's been a long time since I saw these since Attack on Titan ~
Frieza's energy is perfect compared to Vegeta. Vegeta is the guy who lets everyone knows he thinks he should be the main character. Frieza is the guy who already knows he should be the main character so he just needs to remind people every once in a while like at 13:55
he was putting out, idc what the fandom says, taking out so many fighters including one of the top u11 fighters, and not even be out of stamina or injured when he ends up getting knocked out is pretty good all things considered
As a fan of Vegeta I was hyped about the new form but that quickly died when you know a bit more about it. The form is practically pointless. Because Toriyama dislikes Vegeta he didn't even design the form himself unlike Goku's Ultra Instinct. It was designed by Toei Animation. But also because Vegeta is never allowed to outshine Goku the form also isn't really stronger compared to what Goku is normally able to achieve. You can compare the form's power equal to Goku Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken x20 which is as we know not powerful enough to make Jiren sweat.
IF you paid attention to the sky there was no stars and when top launched the move destroy and blew up there were stars in the sky so basically he launched the Big Bang (that’s how strong freiza is😂)
I'd say the biggest L in the anime was the treatment of Tien. The guy really had the worst episode in the tournament of power arc AND Goku didn't even go to recruit him, he went to get Roshi. Tien was just conveniently there, he even got shafted in that episode too. A far cry from his moment against semi-perfect Cell.
No kefla needed to be that strong for goku to reach ui sign for entertainment and they fused of course they are so strong and they weren't even that strong because they couldn't even hit goku once in ui sign
It's named super blue evolution but many fans refer it as Royal blue which i do and like too. I wonder how your reaction is going to be when you see vegeta once more
even with 17's unlimited energy which really isn't helping if he's getting tossed around so much, making him comparable to pre-tournament goku was one of the worst decisions. as well as gohan. although, goku does have the tendency to draw out his opponent's best traits and sometimes motivate them by going his max power which really is not the case. but still, it's just a really bad decision. Whatever, as usual a great reaction, waiting of the next episode...
I mean he *has* to be comparable, A17 was written to be the MVP, he’s in the frontlines providing vital support and aid to the main heavy-hitters like Goku, Vegeta and Gohan. To keep him at his Android saga self makes him useless, even bringing him to Buu saga ssj3 Goku level would still be far too insufficient for the role he plays in the tournament, for him to do what he needs, at a minimum he needs to be on par with divine transformations.
Toppo would have been a way better end antagonist than jiren. It would have been an awesome twist if toppo was actually revelaed to be the biggest threat after transforming.
Crack theory: Starting to think Ange hates all other anime Genres. First Universe 2 which was sailor moon, and now the pride troopers who were super Sentai. Hmmm… Anyway, Jiren is only confirmed to be stronger then his own destroyer, belmod. Wether he’s stronger then literally any of the bothers is yet to be determined.
The way I always took the Royal Blue transformation is. It start with the "Super Saiyan God"base form. Which draws from a different power source, "Blue" is SS God super Saiyan 1, and "Royal Blue" is SS God Super Saiyan 2. But I'm not the writers so thats just how I interprete Blue and Royal Blue. God mode mixed with Super Saiyan transformations
Just to clarify Jeeren is stronger than the destroyer of his universe and not other universes...not all destroyers are equally strong...almost all of them could whoop Jiren...Beerus could easily toy with him
Honestly I still think top should have been disqualified for turning into a actual destroyer cause technically hes not a mortal anymore... Compared to goku and vegetas super saiyan God they're not actual gods and still mortals
Vegeta is slightly more powerful then Goku since Goku's kaioken damages his body if he uses it too long while Vegeta's new form doesn't hurt him. If you use Goku ui then yea Goku is still stronger but Vegeta is slightly powerful without Goku's ui.
Watching you watch these reminds me of how forgettable everything after Kefla is. Not a knock on your reactions, y'all are great, just a comment on the source material.
Can't wait for the next batch of episodes! Great reactions once again, I am absolutely living for your FMA:B and DBS reactions! I love Carlie's reactions, I really feel them! And it's brilliant watching Ange trying not to slip up haha It's a bit odd seeing Toppo being called Top in the dub, though haha, but I can manage. If you are open to recommendations, I'd like to highly recommend Tower of God (only 13 episodes right now but S2 is in the works)! Other recommendations would be Hunter X Hunter (most probably THE by far best written anime in the genre, even above FMA:B), The Promised Neverland (only season 1 unfortunately, S2 cuts out so much of the story that you'd be better of reading if you want to know how it continues), Tokyo Ghoul (has consistency issues due to moving away from the manga for a whole season, but it's still an enjoyable watch), The Seven Deadly Sins (animation drops massively in S3 but recovers a bit for S4; does have a bit of fanservice and a running gag between two characters that includes groping if that's an issue for you, although it gets toned down a lot in later seasons; Carlie will definitely find someone for the Husbando tierlist, though); God Of High School and My Hero Academia are decent watches as well.
I think Royal blue is a way better name, just because it's official doesn't make it better, actually in the manga it's called perfected blue which is also better.