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Top skid steer! TAKEUCHI TL12 vs ASV RT120 FORESTRY PACKAGE 

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@rockingkvideos3160
@rockingkvideos3160 5 лет назад
Thanks for sharing Sam, I find it amazing folks drop big coin without testing their options. Cab space, seat suspension, metal vs plastic.... with RU-vid and forums you can get a ton of information as I’m sure you did prior to this event but actually testing in those real life conditions are very valuable. Thanks again👍👍👍
@bigtruckin1821
@bigtruckin1821 5 лет назад
Always enjoy you vids and reviews I personally have run the pt175 and the 300 here in Tennessee for someone and enjoy both,been think of getting a smaller machine for myself to do smaller jobs and go out on my own,keep up the great vids and hard work
@maxtonlippert7752
@maxtonlippert7752 5 лет назад
Work in excavation and we’ve had a Takeuchi TL8 for about 3 years. Put around 1,200 hrs on it without any problems at all.
@jeffstewart3325
@jeffstewart3325 5 лет назад
Hi Sam! I run TL12V2 no issues ever. Global Machinery Great Service and Jim Cunningham is fantastic.Highly recommend both of them. Little less power than ASV but makes up in Comfort and maintains type stuff, local service!
@eliteearthworksllc
@eliteearthworksllc 5 лет назад
Takeuchi hands down! I’ve got 7000 hours on my TL250 with no issues. Just ordered a Takeuchi TB260 excavator as well. Love the cabs on them, that’s all I’ve ran in my excavation business
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 5 лет назад
Elite Earthworks LLC good info that’s an impressive amount of hours in that rig! Definitely liked running the tl12 cab was comfy and good vis. Might actually run the Asv tomorrow see what all the hype is about
@eliteearthworksllc
@eliteearthworksllc 5 лет назад
V-BELT and SON yeah I bought it with 900 hours in 2012. Just stumbled upon your channel great stuff keep up the good work!
@daddio7249
@daddio7249 4 года назад
I helped my father in law level dirt he had hauled into his driveway. He rented a Cat track skid steer with joystick controls. After years of owning and running a lever control skid steer I was constantly behind trying to turn in reverse. I would want to twist counter clockwise in reverse but would push right first and of course the machine wold pivot clockwise so when I pulled back I was facing the wrong way. The Cat cab was very roomy.
@phillipschwarz66
@phillipschwarz66 5 лет назад
I own and operate a ASV RT120F. 450hrs since October. Honestly its a beast. The ride alone is worth the purchase if you are running it yourself as an owner. If you are putting an operator in it than the premium might not be worth it for you. I run a Diamond disc mulcher and their brush cutter. Owned a 333G previously. The RT120F is twice the machine as the 333G. 4Landssake.
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 5 лет назад
Phillip Schwarz I ran one yesterday. It has power but didn’t seem to have a crap ton over the tak. Hard for me to get used to the ride after running in a dedicated steel track machine.
@garydavis4405
@garydavis4405 5 лет назад
Thinking of buying a skid steer for my tree company for mainly lifting and loading logs/ wood..... anyways what's your opinion?
@luckyshu2250
@luckyshu2250 4 года назад
@@garydavis4405 CAT Or Bobcat
@cmusic52
@cmusic52 5 лет назад
you do have a good point, the plastic/fiberglass body panels don't really scream durable forestry machine compared to the takeuchi's solid metal, though the suspension on the track may make up for the seat not having the floating design you talked about, granted I wonder if you could add that when you ordered one
@jimmydickson8854
@jimmydickson8854 3 года назад
Tha Takeuchi is the best all round machine ,I love how the door on the Takeuchi you could work with the door open that’s big for me and iv ckeck Ed out their factory and your buying quality ,put some big bars on the back and you got a beast ,easy choice for me
@zfilmmaker
@zfilmmaker 2 года назад
I just bought one of these for my farm. I was all set to buy the ASV 135T based on what I’d seen on Upstate Brush Control’s channel of the 120. The 135T is probably a great mulcher but lacks in other areas, plus there’s no dealer in my state. I ended up buying the CAT 299D3 XE and an FAE head. The CAT is better sealed and the specs beyond mulching are better. I’ve since seen someone running a Diamond head that processes debris into much finer material which I prefer. The FAE head can make a huge mess just like all others. I was impressed by Diamonds innovation and I bet their mulchers are less expensive. I’m running the FAE because I just bought it but if I buy one again I think I’ll go Diamond.
@stumpshot70
@stumpshot70 5 лет назад
I have that exact set up with the Takeuchi TL12R2 and the FAE head. It's a monster for what we have here in NorCal. Thanks for making this video!
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 5 лет назад
stumpshot70 no problem! And where are you located?
@stumpshot70
@stumpshot70 5 лет назад
@@VBELTandSON Just north of Nevada City, CA...I bought mine from Global as well. You're in Pioneer, CA?
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 5 лет назад
stumpshot70 I’m in grass valley hah what’s your business name?
@stumpshot70
@stumpshot70 5 лет назад
@@VBELTandSON Ha..thats hilarious. Yeah I'm near North San Juan. Been here all my life. Kerrigan Forestry is my business, but I'm just word of mouth. I worked for Robinson and Soper Wheeler for many years as a faller but have been solo for a while now mostly doing land maintenence and odd logging jobs. First name is Sean by the way. Do you have a local business?
@speedybeak
@speedybeak 11 месяцев назад
do you still have your t Takeuchi? if so how's it holding up@@stumpshot70
@charlesbourgeois9029
@charlesbourgeois9029 4 года назад
My family always said the dedicated units would make great little track loader/dozer/tool carrier from hell. Asphalt planning good be s good option.
@dugldo
@dugldo 3 года назад
Tak e oo chi. Love how nobody says it anywhere close to right. By the way, I'd take the Takeuchi all day. Have an older tl130 that does anything and everything I need it to.
@aggiefacts
@aggiefacts 2 года назад
Me too thats thing does it all
@sprucegoose1016
@sprucegoose1016 5 лет назад
Nice machine the takahuchee. In the end it’s who gives you the best costumer service 👍 my top two is cat or ASV.
@Northbaylandscaping
@Northbaylandscaping 4 года назад
Funny thing is ASV RT series opted for the older cat cabs instead. I agree the older ASV were better in chassis protection. I wonder who at ASV thought that was a good idea although i think the rear end redesign was done for better engine servicing. If you want checkout a used PT100 forestry edition it has everything minus the cummins.
@_valve-wl4sg
@_valve-wl4sg 5 лет назад
I've ran bobcat t190 quite a bit but it was also mostly dirt work, love those machines!! But To small for what you're doing, also ran an asv rt100 with a fecon and carbides, hated it.. I agree with you, visibility is very limited, also had to completely rebuild the track frame and replace the axles...yes it had axles💰💰💰🤦‍♂️
@siRiderkdw9
@siRiderkdw9 5 лет назад
Takeuchi is definitely my choice of CTL. Absolutely great machine! All around very versatile and durable!
@33100Gman
@33100Gman 3 года назад
Takeuchi is a great machine, the asv undercarriage is about 12-15K to replace everything including the bogies and all, instead of just tracks and sprockets like the Takeuchi, stumps will tear those bogies to hell
@colt45orton73
@colt45orton73 3 года назад
If you grind your stumps down far enough that's not a problem. We take care of our asv machines and they last us a long time
@brittanygaudino5912
@brittanygaudino5912 4 года назад
My JCB 250t has no DEF. It's nice, but it is only 75hp 33gpm at 3300 psi. But I like it, extremely strong for a single arm, and so much room it's really ridiculous. I've ran the tl8s they are nice machines!
@robertcarey4178
@robertcarey4178 3 года назад
Those over head doors make a world of difference for visibility
@RMcelfresh
@RMcelfresh 5 лет назад
Lots of great info! Love your vids! Would love to see more in-cab videos of mulching
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@GearHardoffRoad
@GearHardoffRoad 3 года назад
I run the takeuchi tl 12 v2 with the loftness head with carbide teeth at work and the takiuchie is a beast and i love my mower
@jeffkarshner875
@jeffkarshner875 5 лет назад
You nailed it....thanks man....
@jadams736
@jadams736 4 года назад
What you think about the Kubota 95-2 I like a takeuchi
@davelindgren5245
@davelindgren5245 24 дня назад
I don't use these things full time. I did rent a Takeuchi for a month and used it 8 to 10 hours a day 6 days a week. It ran like a dream and I was pushing it hard. I would also give it points for a rental place having it as their standard because uptime is a major deal for them and they know people are going to beat the crap out of the equipment.
@TermiteBenny
@TermiteBenny 4 года назад
The ASV undercarriage works best in sandy type material. If used in rocky or sharp material it gets cut very easily. The rollers also have rubber surfaces and if rocks get wedges against them it will chew them up. In the winter time in any type of mud forget about running them, they will freeze and the rollers will not move. The Takeuchi is hard on the body with the rough ride but they are built like tanks and are hard to beat.
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 4 года назад
B&K Excavating LLC try driving the prime tech or lamtrac and get in the tl12 🙌🏻 way smooth. All in all I’m actually very happy with the Takeuchi. Prefer it hands down over the asv
@TermiteBenny
@TermiteBenny 4 года назад
I have two TL230’s right now, looking to add a TL12R2 next year. Need a big skid loader to do the jobs that are too big for my smaller Takeuchi’s but too small for the Cat 953’s.
@jamesparkman4426
@jamesparkman4426 Год назад
Every machine has its purpose in my opinion but I'm jumping in the ASV you like what you like I've operated both ,its asv for me.
@briananderson513
@briananderson513 4 года назад
Careful with that ASV dissn. I’m a big fan of Jon, his crew and equipment at Upstate Brush Control. They seem to run an impressive shop. Honestly tho .... good video. I enjoyed it. 👍🏽
@kylesch9262
@kylesch9262 5 лет назад
The TL12 is the way to go for grading or pushing. I’ve had to use it for pushin base rock and for grading dirt and absolutely love it. I don’t know about many other skids as I’ve only had my hands on the TL series(8, 10, and the 12) and a few older CATs, but the two speed transmission the Takeuchi has is amazing.
@themintlord4744
@themintlord4744 3 года назад
My dad mulched with a takauchi tl150 and an ASV RC100. This is scarily similar.
@prrcpor
@prrcpor 4 года назад
I use the old asv positrack 2810. the tracks are bigger and way wider then these newer copys plenty of visabiltiy. I'd like to try one though and compare .
@brianhildreth9099
@brianhildreth9099 2 года назад
Takeuchi! We have 3 of them. We love them.
@ClaytonHartin
@ClaytonHartin 5 лет назад
I love our Kubota skid loader
@aarongasque9483
@aarongasque9483 5 лет назад
Love my TL12V2 with the cimaf 180d. The knifes definitely are a great HP compensator. I’ve got 1000hrs on the TL12v2 95% mulching with no issues. You can slow down those tilt functions and jerkyness of the steering with the priority valve. It basically slows the movements by diverting more flow to the head. I’m super please with the machine.
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 5 лет назад
Aaron Gasque awesome glad to hear that! Curious what kind of hydraulic oil temps do you usually see?
@jimharris472
@jimharris472 5 лет назад
@@VBELTandSON got both machines and run a fae head with carbides , the asv will get around 68-70 degrees hydraulic , engine temp was around 80 degrees , with the takeuchi i have got it to 100 degrees hydraulic and 105 degrees engine temp , for mure mulching the asv will win ... if it lasts
@cmusic52
@cmusic52 5 лет назад
with you talking about visibility, it makes me wonder if JCB/Volvo version for mulching as those from what I've seen have the best visibility cause of the one boom design
@leifwilson7053
@leifwilson7053 5 лет назад
I have the JCB Teleskid, visibility is great and is comfortable with heated air seat. Only 74 horse power would be under powered with a mulcher head.
@cmusic52
@cmusic52 5 лет назад
@@leifwilson7053 see I wasn't sure if that was their highest HP model, and I thought I saw a few brands with that design and wasn't sure if one of them went higher end with them now
@jonashammar8907
@jonashammar8907 3 года назад
great video. helped me a lot. God bless
@6bt_str864
@6bt_str864 3 года назад
Ol feller upare in NC loves his "ol' buobcat" what's opinion on 750/850? (Anyone?)
@mikethorntonr1
@mikethorntonr1 5 лет назад
Asv cab is rated for a tree to fall on it thats why the cab is like that the other junk would kill you I've ran asv any day I'd get one the tracks are fine and those hydraulic lines down by the undercarriage has never been punctured on any model
@mikethorntonr1
@mikethorntonr1 5 лет назад
Asv also has the longest lasting tracks of 1500 hours that's alot more than any other
@ponchhunt
@ponchhunt 5 лет назад
I put 3k hours on my last undercarriage.
@cooperwilkes7219
@cooperwilkes7219 5 лет назад
Have you looked at bobcat ive heard a lot of not good things on ASV also hate the door how it opens vs the other skid steer you can work with the door open when moving dirt or working around people love your videos keep it up
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 5 лет назад
Cooper Wilkes thanks man! And idk about bob cat. There was a few at the demo working and they didn’t sound like that had a lot in the tank. That door on the Asv is rough and for sure like the idea of the one opening straight up way better
@colinhead2757
@colinhead2757 3 года назад
Cooper Wilkes, I've just received a Bobcat T65 R series, a little smaller than I'm use too, and the 1st Bobcat brand that I have operated for a long time. We have mostly had cats but also have a smaller hsv at the moment. The Bobcat has just reached 50hr service and I'm being asked by the dealer, what do I think. Well, I told him I was experienced enough to be a harsh critic. I've got a list of pros and cons, I can't be dammed listing here, and I'm sure it will grow from here. So here is one from both. I told the dealer I thought it was totally lame, that Clarke Bobcat would even consider making the the back lockable, as a extra, there is a place for the lock, but a lock 8s an option. I'm still blown away about it, and like I said, there are other things that flat out make me wonder, how the mighty Bobcat, forefront runner in the industry, can be so thoughtless. Now a good thing, she pushes like a beast, for its size, I'd say as good or probably better than cat. I was pleasingly surprised.
@pabloguereca2231
@pabloguereca2231 2 года назад
Hi Sam that’s a nice setup how do you like it?
@wk.9496
@wk.9496 3 года назад
What's the name of that rock song in this video?
@robertmichael6943
@robertmichael6943 4 месяца назад
Asv cooling, hydraulic hp, ride, Cummins, flow, pressure, torque etc are all things one must consider. Its has all that over and above Tak and I like Tak.
@damiancollins2038
@damiancollins2038 4 года назад
Hello . . Love all your videos .. please I am a farmer .. and interested in buying one of this machines ..which kind of machine do you suggest one to buy ... I am looking at Cat 299D Rayco and Barko ... Please advise ... Thank you
@danielrohe4304
@danielrohe4304 3 года назад
Actually looking at trading my Lamtrac 6140 for a TL 12 but don’t k ow if my Cimaf 180d is right for that machine. Rotor may have to much mass to recover quickly. Unfortunate the 6140 was brought out before it was fully developed.
@christopherjilek5467
@christopherjilek5467 5 лет назад
If you are going to possibly use it for grading in the future, it is harder to finish grade with a suspension skid. The machine can lean forward or tilt back slightly as you stop and start. Just something to think about.
@WyattH
@WyattH 4 года назад
Christopher Jilek no it won’t it is not actually Suspension
@jasongrinnell1986
@jasongrinnell1986 8 месяцев назад
So what’s the advantages of running knives vs carbide teeth.
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 8 месяцев назад
Knives will cut bigger material but dull if hit a rock. Carbide are tough take a beating but intimately require more hp to be effective
@d1bigshifter737
@d1bigshifter737 4 года назад
Do a comparison on the mini excavators I'd like to see that one in the background run . Does it have a saw and do you work with mostly soft or hard woods
@robertparker6801
@robertparker6801 5 месяцев назад
Which model FAE do you like on the TL12. Carbide or knives?
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 5 месяцев назад
Standard head. With the door like in the video. Depending on the job and terrain will decide which Teeth to use. Mostly carbide
@dodgeman4046
@dodgeman4046 5 лет назад
How's that vgt working I got a cel on my 4th gen and turbo is sticking I'm thinking about an upgrade as soon as my 12 valve is back on the road
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 5 лет назад
Dodge man it’s money! Little slow down low but mean up top.
@dodgeman4046
@dodgeman4046 5 лет назад
Thanks I'll check it out
@thethoughtfulcarpenter
@thethoughtfulcarpenter 3 года назад
I have a regular cab 2014 ram 3500 cummins and i'm looking to stay under 26k weight as I don't have a cdl yet. What trailer and tl12 with head weight in at? I'm looking at getting a used TL12 after watching you run it its been my top choice.
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 3 года назад
You’re gonna need a cdl and a 20k trailer
@thethoughtfulcarpenter
@thethoughtfulcarpenter 3 года назад
@@VBELTandSON hahaha fair enough. I'll get my class lined up.
@thethoughtfulcarpenter
@thethoughtfulcarpenter 3 года назад
@@VBELTandSON would you suggest a TL 8 with a smaller head? Especially if it wasn't a main business?
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 3 года назад
Idk how well an 8 will power a head. I’d demo one first
@kevbokubota4398
@kevbokubota4398 4 месяца назад
Is mulching hard on track loaders. I am thinking about getting a tl8r2 and was wondering about mulching
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 4 месяца назад
Wide open throttle kind of work. Machine handles it well
@michaelpatish7248
@michaelpatish7248 5 лет назад
It's a good thing you don't weigh 350 lbs or more or you would need a winch to get you out of that RT120. If you sent this comparison to the company that made the RT120 they would drop you some $$ as a consultant? Love your youtube videos.
@jdiggindirt
@jdiggindirt 5 лет назад
ASV was designed for forestry mulching only really. It is not good for dirt or rock work tracks tear easy and with the taco hoochie you cannot go wrong I absolutely love that machine a lot of power if you get the extra hydraulic coolant package on it might not need it on the new ones but the older ones you did but it would turn that head no problem and a great universal machine
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 5 лет назад
James Harrell taco hoochie. Haha that’s my dads favorite joke when I talk about these rigs lol definitely enjoyed driving the tl12. Comfy and seemed to handle that head without much trouble. Asv seems to be just mulcher Intended. No side dirtjob with it. Leads me to want the tl12 more
@jimharris472
@jimharris472 5 лет назад
@@VBELTandSON the bit of a difference between the TL12 and the TL12V2 , the TL12 had no dpf , same flow just 500psi less pressure , the TL12V2 has a bit bigger cab , longer tracks frame / tracks but it has DPF.
@mikestrucks
@mikestrucks 5 лет назад
Nice one 👍 personally I prefer the Takeuchi... there is definitely more space in the cab. But the ASV has a cummins inside...👍
@jeffallman5924
@jeffallman5924 5 лет назад
Love your videos. I'm wanting to get in the mulching business as a side job and a TL12R2 is the machine I'm wanting. Still trying to decide on which head
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 5 лет назад
Jeff Allman eBay heads are you thinking of going with?
@jeffallman5924
@jeffallman5924 5 лет назад
@@VBELTandSON Either a Fecon, Cimaf or FAE. What is your opinion on a used head?
@jakewilliams4370
@jakewilliams4370 5 лет назад
Ever look led into a Gehl VT320? Has 115 hp.
@luckyshu2250
@luckyshu2250 4 года назад
terrible ungodly gruesome riding machine on market !!!!! and can't see out back !!! Noisy junk
@travisjae1775
@travisjae1775 2 года назад
What about the lamtrac 6140 ctl?
@geostawny
@geostawny 8 месяцев назад
Is anybody running the new stl track skidder. ( might be a case)with mulching head
@dvosberg39
@dvosberg39 5 лет назад
The guys on here talking about the, "excessive" maintenance cost of the ASV undercarriage are misinformed. The newer ASV undercarriages are much cheaper to maintain. I priced a roller on a newer ASV RT-120F and the cost was $70-$80. I priced a roller on a Bobcat T870 and the cost was over $300. Crazy thing is they both, 'fail' the same way, when the bearing goes bad. Sure, ASV rollers can show chunking and aren't pretty when they do. Still, they don’t have to be replaced unless the bearings are shot or there is 30% or less rubber remaining on the roller. Plus, the ASV doesn't de-track. I live in a rock market and hill country and I'm still pro-ASV. The main function of the ASV poly, "rubber" rollers is to reduce friction in the system, reduce undercarriage weight, disburse the machine weight evenly along the track, and to reduce vibration or feedback from the ground to the operator. A worn looking, chunked ASV roller is still very much doing it’s job unless the bearing is bad. People who understand ASV's system stick with their machines for a reason. Does anyone like throwing good dollars at bad dollars?
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 5 лет назад
I was listening until you started preaching youre smarter than anyone that basically disagrees with you.. I personly thought the asv was an awesome machine. love the idea of a smooth ride but it wasn't my favorite when I drove it. I really enjoyed the tl12 when I drove it. and didn't think it would hang but it surprised me. as for the under carriage. tl12 is similar to my excavator. I don't seen any idlers or rollers going on that anytime soon and it is not a stationary machine
@dvosberg39
@dvosberg39 5 лет назад
V-BELT and SON - I apologize for posting a comment that made you feel as though I’m trying to preach or come across as smarter than those who have differing opinions. To temper the feeling you got when reading my above post, I made a slight change in my delivery and edited the comment above. Look better? The message is still the same. People are misinformed &/or misrepresent the real maintenance cost of each undercarriage system. Is it fair to say that people who make a living with these machines would agree that real world maintenance & undercarriage costs matter? Different opinions exist and people spend their money wherever they wish. Notwithstanding, people who comment or recite misinformation about maintenance costs from uninformed or misinformed positions.
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 5 лет назад
there ya go thank you brother! and true that. I made a video awhile back that stated if youre telling me something that I may share on here I want facts not rumors. seems to fit here. at the end of the day not anyone machine is perfect. but asv is functional all around. some ppl have good luck some don't
@colt45orton73
@colt45orton73 4 года назад
the asv's appearance is pretty slick. never had a chance to run one though
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 4 года назад
I ran one it’s got good power but I didn’t like the overal feel of the machine
@colt45orton73
@colt45orton73 4 года назад
@@VBELTandSON that is good knowing
@ethanepps5500
@ethanepps5500 4 года назад
Are you running that TK without an impact resistant door?
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 4 года назад
?
@toddmaclaurin8116
@toddmaclaurin8116 3 года назад
The TL12 comes standard with a poly carb door when you have the high flow option
@taylorthruelsen324
@taylorthruelsen324 4 года назад
Got me with the finger joke...
@Don-vv8eh
@Don-vv8eh 2 года назад
is there room for my dog in the takeuchi ? Aloha
@timeallen6900
@timeallen6900 3 года назад
The tek looks like a bigger machine
@fishing4drew
@fishing4drew 4 года назад
Used them both in the mountains of Montana and Alberta. When you want to get serious the ASV outperforms and is way more reliable than the Takeuchi, safer too.
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 4 года назад
I ran both before buying one. Didn’t see much of a power gain with the Asv. I bought the Takeuchi. I like everything about it so much more. 250 hours not one issue. Plenty of Asv stories that found big time electrical bugs before 50 hours. Not sure how you get safer both rops fops certified. Asv is cool as hell... at first but if you want to get serious get a dedicated machine. 🤘🏻
@macdawg6403
@macdawg6403 Месяц назад
Nice Vid!
@UpstateBrushControl
@UpstateBrushControl 5 лет назад
Both are great machines, the guys around here who run the Takeuchi have to put after market coolers on them because they can't stay cool during the heat of the summer. ASV isn't perfect, but it works great for me, that extra 9 hp is a huge difference in the woods. The torsion suspension will not beat you to death after a long day. After about 1000 hours, the door on the Takeuchi doesn't stay sealed, dust gets in and it sounds like its going to rattle apart.
@stevewalsh8716
@stevewalsh8716 5 лет назад
What hydraulic temp do you stay around ?
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 5 лет назад
Any skiddy is a power loss from the normal machines here besides the rayco. But I will admit I had doubt on the Takeuchi but it is a little boss. I can’t get over how small that cab is. Like dang didn’t know it was that small haha. That Takeuchi cab is all comfy loved the space and the seat was money. And I would rather replace weather stripping that undercarriage;) jk haha At the end of the day like you said both solid machines but it may come down to dealer support around here and I already tried to buy Asv off local dealers around here and no call Back from any of them. And these boys txted me and said hey demo Friday come on out
@ponchhunt
@ponchhunt 5 лет назад
I keep hearing about these “questionable” ASV undercarriages, I have never had an undercarriage failure. Ever. Asv has the only repairable undercarriages the market. I guess it’s easy to complain something you don’t own.
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 5 лет назад
ponchhunt hahaha are you kidding? Only repairable one? Doesn’t even make sense. And it’s not a complaint, it’s a simple concern. Might out last everything else. But I have seen mtl undercarriage failures. Stuff happens but best of luck with your machine amigo🤘🏻
@spt_tr0ll
@spt_tr0ll 4 года назад
The fiberglass body on the ASV is durable, I don’t have the bottom plate like Upstate and have smacked a few trees and it’s still in one piece. Love my ASV.
@rongrey7449
@rongrey7449 4 года назад
Which is better knives or carbides?
@colt45orton73
@colt45orton73 3 года назад
knives
@StinkyTeal
@StinkyTeal 3 года назад
I know one person's comments doesnt mean anything to anyone but ASV tracks are the thing of nightmares, it uses the lugs inside the tract to move it...once you lose a lug go ahead and replace the whole track....track still were very new.....
@dwaynetempest3433
@dwaynetempest3433 5 лет назад
So.we here in NY State started mulching biz,we are using a case sv 340 with run flat tires and steel grouser tracks with ice cleats with a erskin head.iwe are definitely learning and doing ok and covering the bills! Already we are looking at something bigger ,seems all these skid steer need design engineers that actually use an run a machine .ido you think the pt 175 has the best of all,over all machines you have tried.in that price range.i am seeing you all run track Machines ,and I wonder how they would do in the mud we deal with ! I just feel there would be lots of maintenance problems with the mud .the pt 175 is more of a dozer type track and almost twice the size .an over twice the money of course !
@normanrichards5143
@normanrichards5143 4 года назад
After thousands of hours on both the asv is alot faster,more power and rides 3times better a little more maintenance on the tracks but it's worth it on the back and the hoses were a concern for me on the tracks but never and issues on multiple units
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 4 года назад
That’s good to hear. I hear a good review on the Asv every once and awhile. I drove the Asv and went back and bought the Takeuchi. Love it.
@jimharris472
@jimharris472 5 лет назад
own both the Takeuchi tl12v2 and the ASV 120 , the asv can mulch better due to the bit more horsepower , more flow and pressure , it has a better cooling package and no dpf to deal with , the takeuchi has far better quality finish , better visibility , better controls , bigger cab , depends what you are chasing ... mulching the asv will win when it is going ... the tak for ground work , also grab yourself a pair of quality earmuffs with the asv , by the end of the day you will have the biggest headache if you dont
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 5 лет назад
that ear muff factor for the asv is something I don't care for aswell. will be running the skid steer next to a prime tech pt 175 and that rig is a cadilac and very quiet in the cab. the tl12 didn't seem very loud in the cab which was nice.
@jimharris472
@jimharris472 5 лет назад
@@VBELTandSON slashed with the asv today and left my muffs at home , within bout 20 min asked the wife to bring them to site , if you do go the asv , spend a day or two and lift the cab and go through all the wiring and hydraulic lines , check for rubbing / loose and lack of lagging of lines beroe they rub through
@jimharris472
@jimharris472 5 лет назад
@@VBELTandSON you are going to love how quite and how much visibility the asv has over the pt300 ... not ..lol
@jdboy9
@jdboy9 5 лет назад
What about cleaning the machines after mulching? I see the asv has big panels to drop down which seems nice for cleaning. What's the takeuchi like?
@jimharris472
@jimharris472 5 лет назад
@@jdboy9 both bout the same , keep in mind the fiberglass panels on the ASV ,if you get a chance , lift both cabs and have a good look around at how the wiring / hoses are protected or lack of ... if its purely mulching you will put up with the sub-quality that ASV brings only because it mulches better then the Takeuchi
@Jason-gp2fm
@Jason-gp2fm 4 года назад
Takeuchi is great but the track system sucks. Can you get a system more like ASV for Takeuchi? I've seen them on Cats and other brands. Aftermarket systems
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 4 года назад
I have zero complaints about the tracks on the takeuchi. I bought the tl12 and have 150 hours on it now all good
@Jason-gp2fm
@Jason-gp2fm 4 года назад
@@VBELTandSON if you work somewhere where they get as worn as the ones I run in the terrain I have to go through it can be horrible. As where I love the track systems on the cats and asv's I've ran. You didnt answere the question I asked but ok. I have seen advertisements in the past for the aftermarket company in the past. I know they make them for cats and bobcats from what I hear and the power company contractor I work for is interested is why I asked. Thanks anyways. Compared to asv and cat the track system sucks. As far as the machine itself it's not bad but I still much rather be in cat or asv. We run a 60" diamond disc mulcher head with all carbides and with the hydrolic flow power pack it doesnt big down much at all. But as far as the terrain we have to work at times it is kinda sluggish moving forward, backwards and turning compared to cat and asv.
@luckyshu2250
@luckyshu2250 4 года назад
@@Jason-gp2fm Cat purchased the rights to put ASV tracks on there 257,277,287,297 skiddys up till 2018 now you can only get that track on the 257's they discontinued it on the other three machines
@LoneWolf-cf5tp
@LoneWolf-cf5tp 5 лет назад
I would take the ASV It’s Got a Cummins. The others a beast though
@charlesbourgeois9029
@charlesbourgeois9029 4 года назад
This size, I really like kubota diesels 125hp and under. I'd like to see kubota go balls out with there construction equipment line.
@lukeshurtleff9770
@lukeshurtleff9770 5 лет назад
There's a reason lets dig runs the tl12 he could run any machine he wants but he's a pure bred dirt mover. If your contemplating dirt work on the side, Its not even close tl12 all the way. There track system works well even in the worst mud, simple and self cleans well. I've spent hundreds of hours grading in a tl12 absolutely great machine. And great local dealer support.
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 5 лет назад
Luke Shurtleff yea I know as soon as I bought one I would be wanting to do some dirt work and anything else a skiddy normally does. I know the Asv is a champ for mulching but hate idea of it having limitations in other areas
@mgp-bct7723
@mgp-bct7723 5 лет назад
I seen a lot of videos and the ASV and John Deere 333G it’s the best power which has best quality and better customer service ??, What a bout John Deer 333G ??? + ASV not building US it’s Australian product if in case it breaks down who is going to fix it ?there’s no dealers in every city or town + the $$$$ it’s 1/3 more expensive What is the point?
@dvosberg39
@dvosberg39 4 года назад
Mihail G ASV is built in Minnesota
@luckyshu2250
@luckyshu2250 4 года назад
ASV is built in Grand Rapids Minnesota
@stevewalsh8716
@stevewalsh8716 5 лет назад
Everybody knocks the asv undercarriage , I live 30 minutes from the factor here in Minnesota so I’m bias , but they are easy to work on if you’re a work wise person. And really aren’t that expensive to replace parts . The tak wouldnt make 5 minutes in the area I live in for mulching and the clearance asv has makes a huge difference . As for the fiber glass , they are working on a few things to correct that from what I’m hearing
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 5 лет назад
I spoke with a guy who ran Asv before switching to a Takeuchi and he had tons of issues with the undercarriage. Some ppl have good luck some don’t. And easy to work on it nice but even nicer if you don’t have to work on it over something simple
@stevewalsh8716
@stevewalsh8716 5 лет назад
That is true , I guess I’ve had better luck than some . I do agree with you on visibility , it isn’t very good . What can you tell me about the FAE head ? I’m looking into denis Cimaf and Prinoth and my next mulcher , but FAE seems to be a popular choice for some .
@Bigcash3
@Bigcash3 3 года назад
Can a 3500 haul a skid steer with a decent size trailer easily?
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 3 года назад
Yes look at some of my other videos 😁
@Bigcash3
@Bigcash3 3 года назад
@@VBELTandSON ok thanks I was wondering. Kinda a dream or whatever you want to call it but would like to open my own land clearing business one day when I am older
@dowboykfx470
@dowboykfx470 11 месяцев назад
Them bad boys are over 80k.....so my question is do these things make great money?
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 11 месяцев назад
That’s cheap if you find one for that price
@Fummins139
@Fummins139 5 лет назад
Both nice machines, Does the Takeuchi have auto reversing fans like the ASV. And what is the price difference between the machines?
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 5 лет назад
you can get it with a reversing fan and 25k ish cheaper for the 12
@Tyler_Robertson
@Tyler_Robertson 5 лет назад
ASV style undercarriage is defenatly a pain in the ass to replace. Cats version is no better it’s all a pain! The takeuchi, cat ect style is much much better and fast for track replacement! Just my experience
@David_Carlile
@David_Carlile 3 года назад
I just got into the machine side of land clearing. Most of my work is on terrain too steep for a machine so we do it all by hand. I've done all of my contracts in fire prevention for the Feds. I went with the ASV myself. As far as productivity, it was the better of the three in the demo I did. I haven't had issues underneath with those hoses. My only gripe is a Cummins one. When the DEF tank gets to 85% or so, it throws a code for "abnormal rate of fluid level change" for the tank. Idk why they decided that was a good code to throw at a guy. It's as if the good folks at Cummins forgot that people do work outside of an engineering office. As for the interior room... Meh. I could care less. Between the summer heat and the spring/fall rainy seasons I only get a month of nice weather to work in so as long as I'm dry from the rain, snow or heat, I don't care how much space I have.
@bobbyjfarms3681
@bobbyjfarms3681 Год назад
I'd take the tak over an asv in a heartbeat. That track system is too fancy for my liking and the tak looks like it's built like a tank compared to the asv.
@jasonwilliams5757
@jasonwilliams5757 Год назад
Will a cat head match with a takeuchi?
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON Год назад
Cat mulcher head is an fae head. So same as the one in the video on the machine
@yashwantnikam2087
@yashwantnikam2087 4 года назад
nice
@swampwhiteoak1
@swampwhiteoak1 5 лет назад
Check out Cat skid steer on rubber tracks. They also make a nice forestry mulcher. Also check out the New Holland skid steer. Very nice.
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 5 лет назад
swampwhiteoak1 if I’m not mistaken they both have lower horse power than the 120 and the Takeuchi. Ps I already bought the tl12 lol
@swampwhiteoak1
@swampwhiteoak1 5 лет назад
I guess I was late to the party. I hope that new machine is safe, comfortable, reliable, powerful, and makes you loads of money. Best wishes!
@richardgavin6712
@richardgavin6712 5 лет назад
ASV RT120 is a beast ! I have 2 with a FAE mulcher head on it . I team them with my 2 kubota excavator with the rotating log grapple with hideaway chainsaw .
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 5 лет назад
Richard Gavin sounds like a mean set up! Excavator is a big bonus running along side the mulcher
@richardgavin6712
@richardgavin6712 5 лет назад
@@VBELTandSON I have a Kubota KX 080-3 and KX 161-3 excavator with rotating log grapple with hide away chainsaw . I tag team them between the 2 ASV RT120 mulcher and my large FAE mulcher
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 5 лет назад
Richard Gavin we have those same excavators. What grapples do you have with a saw? We have rotator grapples aswell
@richardgavin6712
@richardgavin6712 5 лет назад
I have a ryan's log grapple with hideaway chainsaw
@richardgavin6712
@richardgavin6712 5 лет назад
@@VBELTandSON I have a ryan's log chainsaw grapple on kubota KX 161-3 and rotobec log chainsaw grapple on Kubota KX 080 -3
@Tactical_Arborist_1776
@Tactical_Arborist_1776 5 лет назад
I've run both extensively with a mulcher and brush grapple. The tl12v2 is BY FAR the better machine and never had any problems with the machine. Stay away from ASV/Terex. They are awful machines. We had both and was always down fixing hoses, fittings, hydraulic leaks. And the final drives are very weak when operating anything that uses hydraulic flow or operating the boom or 3rd function. And the wide tracks everyone likes for flotation are great if you enjoy floating, spinning and sliding or hills. They are just to wide to get any traction. The tl12v2 went places in the mud and hillsides that our ASV and Terex wouldn't even consider going. But to each his own. Just my two cents. Guess it just depends on what you want. Stay safe and keep up the great videos!
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 5 лет назад
Jason82 thanks for taking the time to write that up! I ended up testing out an Asv and yeah I bought the Takeuchi tl12 r2. No regrets. Loving that machine. It has been working steady since it was purchased!
@CarterBuilds
@CarterBuilds 5 лет назад
Not to mention parts support and actually if you work on it you’ll definitely pick the Tak every time
@AvgJoe0007
@AvgJoe0007 5 лет назад
I've mulched with both a Takeuchi TL12 and an ASV RT-120. Neither machine is as good as a true dedicated forestry mulcher for mulching, but they are cheaper and being skid steers, they can do many more duties. That's why people use them for mulching. You have to run both in lots of conditions before you learn how much better the ASV is than the Takeuchi for mulching. The ASV's higher horsepower, its Posi-Track undercarriage, and its 15 in ground clearance will take you places that Takeuchi will never go. When your Takeuchi gets stuck, send in your ASV to pull it out. My experience with ASV tracks are that they hold up fine. The idlers can get chewed up on the edges, but it takes a couple thousand hours before you have to replace them. It's certainly not something big enough to pick the Takeuchi over the ASV for. The roll up door on the Takeuchi is very nice when you're not mulching. I love it then. It's much nicer than the ASV's swing-door for dirt work. But, when you are mulching, the Takeuchi's roll up door is a potential injury/death trap because it does not have an interlock forcing the roll up door to be closed before the mulcher head is activated. Your friends experience is a good example. He could have gotten really hurt. This is not to be taken lightly. It's a huge safety hazard, even for experienced operators who can make a mistake. That one problem alone makes the Takeuchi not a serious contender for mulching. The ASV's cab is a tighter fit than the Takeuchi's but it's perfectly adequate for me, and I'm 6'4" and 230 lb. The visibility out of the ASV is a bit worse, but I have found it to be adequate. Neither one has great visibility. The fiberglass engine compartment swinging doors on the ASV is a bad idea. I'm glad to hear that they are getting that fixed. If they come out with metal doors, I'll buy a pair. I've never damaged the hydraulic lines on the inside of the ASV's tracks, but I never liked that design either. That does seem like a potential problem. And one of the hydraulic connectors was loose there from the factory, and I had to jack up my ASV and tighten it to stop a hydraulic leak. I've had no problems with it since then. Overall, the ASV is much better for forestry work and much better for dirt work in sloppy conditions. The Takeuchi's vertical lift is nicer than the ASV's radial lift for loading tall trucks, but the ASV is a better for pushing piles and digging.
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 5 лет назад
Joe Sternhagen well Coming from our main daily machine we use right now being lamtrac 6125 and prime tech pt175. Going to a small uncomfortable cab isn’t really something I want. I drove an Asv yesterday. The power felt aright. Wasn’t completely taken away with huge power difference between the tak and the Asv. In the end it’s still a skid steer and power isn’t really there on either. But I’d say the tak has way more visibility hands down. Asv still seems to be leading the pack in skiddy market
@dvosberg39
@dvosberg39 5 лет назад
Joe Sternhagen, you are 100% correct in your assessment. Seems to me that people who complain about the undercarriage took their CAT dealer’s advice and sell them unnecessary parts when not truly understanding the service life of the ASV design. In my experience, and I’m in a ROCK market, the ASV undercarriage COST HALF of what the competitor’s charge. ASV tracks have double the life expectancy and don’t derail! That’s money in the bank, 100%. I know CTL’s like the back of my hand. There is no comparison whatsoever.
@jacksternhagen100
@jacksternhagen100 4 года назад
Joe Sternhagen couple things u might want to edit in your comment. 1. Ur 6'4 230 lbs. not 130 lbs. 2. Since u made this comment you've had more exposed hose issues under the track, right?
@ramdamcharger9708
@ramdamcharger9708 5 лет назад
I run an ASV120 and a 75 and they hands down will out perform every skid steer in their respective classes. I've ran just about every option of skid steer and Will buy ASV every time.
@Fummins139
@Fummins139 5 лет назад
Have you seen the ASV RT-75HD yet? Little beast
@ramdamcharger9708
@ramdamcharger9708 5 лет назад
mark foster yes I have, I have a 120 , 75 and a just acquired a CMI 175
@colt45orton73
@colt45orton73 3 года назад
We have an asv rt120f and the new asv rt75hd max series with diamond mulchers
@bpev2194
@bpev2194 4 года назад
When u yalk aboit cabs Make sure that you know the difference in ratings
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 4 года назад
B Pev21 both are rops fops certified. Only difference is the Takeuchi actually has space to breathe when you’re inside of it.
@cumminschevy5275
@cumminschevy5275 5 лет назад
Made it , dixie.mike
@mikestrucks
@mikestrucks 5 лет назад
Cummins Chevy i let Dixie win 😌 have to keep the 👴🏻 man happy....😂😂😂
@clintroecker7279
@clintroecker7279 3 года назад
You did a comparison video with out running both machines?
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 3 года назад
I did a follow up video running the asv. Not a perfect world but I found info in my video that NOBODY cared to mention. Even after running the “almighty “ asv I bought the Takeuchi. Love it.
@clintroecker7279
@clintroecker7279 3 года назад
@@VBELTandSON for the most part i agree with what you're saying. I've ran nothing but ASV and Terex and love the ground clearance, speed, and track pressure. The one thing ASV is superior in is stability on slope. Found interest in your video because takeuchi would be the only other machine I'd consider. Would you send the link to the second video?
@renegade1120
@renegade1120 4 года назад
ASV's claim to fame is keeping the weight low, hence the small cab and fiberglass panels. Not to mention they were the creators of the original tracked loader!
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 4 года назад
Actually Takeuchi was the inventor of the track loader
@tuffram2165
@tuffram2165 5 лет назад
The front swinging door on the ASV is a good enough reason for me not to buy it. I prefer the roll up door on the Takeuchi and Kubota models hands down.
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 5 лет назад
Justin Thurman yea I’m with you on that. Simple difference makes a huge difference
@swampyyards438
@swampyyards438 5 лет назад
Ya I used the smaller ASV on a wall dig out.. My partner left it parked leaning one way. Well the next day he couldnt get in it, the door was being blocked. I had to drag it out to flat ground and push down on the bucket to open the door.
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 5 лет назад
Swampy Yards dang that sucks. What did you drag it with?
@swampyyards438
@swampyyards438 5 лет назад
Bobcat E32
@swampyyards438
@swampyyards438 5 лет назад
Lol than I dumped the E32 sideways, so yeah wasnt a good day. Good Luck, keep the videos coming.
@jeffshippy9562
@jeffshippy9562 4 года назад
Pound for pound the John Deere CT3 32 is the machine that will show the other machines How to move dirt . It is a very strong machine for the size You can cut grade easily Add the visibility far surpasses the Competitors don't believe me rent one and you'll see Nothing runs like a Deere.
@timfreeman476
@timfreeman476 5 лет назад
what is the cost to start-up a forestry service business
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 5 лет назад
if bought all new. truck trailer and machine with head. 200-250k ball park
@bodyshopmgr1
@bodyshopmgr1 Год назад
I’m at 260
@huskerboy3471
@huskerboy3471 5 лет назад
Hi
@luckyshu2250
@luckyshu2250 4 года назад
I've run cat, bobcat, JD, Takeuchi, Gehl, ASV , overall i would go with Cat, only complaint i have with Cat is how there engine compartment is set up , Bobcat and ASV hands down on engine compartments, overall ride Cat because of the torsions bar set up, and if it has ride control its just that much smoother than others equipped with ride control, Takeuchi and Gehl are gruesome machines when it comes to ride if your over 40 don't operate one of these in a production setting !!! !!!! Cab comfort is Cat only because of the adjustable safety bar and joysticks, ASV, JD, Bobcat are close behind , Gehl and takeuchi RATTLE TRAPS FROM HELL !! always have to wear ear plugs there so dam noisy !!! power wise i think the Takeuchi was probably the strongest but Cat is right behind them with JD and Bobcat and ASV right there , i would rate ASV a little higher but they took away there foot throttle and the 2-speed light is in a bad spot where you can't tell if its on or off also air conditioner fan is noisy but i love that track system hence i bought a Cat 257 D about only down fall of Cat is its GPM ratings
@VBELTandSON
@VBELTandSON 4 года назад
Kevin Schuster I bought the tl12 Takeuchi 🤘🏻
@boarussmalinko1049
@boarussmalinko1049 2 года назад
Ta-ke-u-chi
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