@@ghnanrohit3029 He killed a man and then raped his wife under the tree from which his corpse hung (which is how Ramsay was conceived). Roose Bolton was an absolute menace and deserved far worse than a dagger through the heart.
Absolutely fantastic villain. His voice is chilling. Best underrated villain of Game Of Thrones. Tywin and LittleFinger are up there as well as intelligent villains.
Tywin Lannister was the most powerful man in Westeros, closely seconded by the Starks of Winterfell... Tywin respected the power of the North, but i bet even hé could fear the sadistic and cruel nature of the Boltons.
The 3rd story made him sound like a Psychopath, but the way he said “You are my son” made him sound like Tywin Lannister. He sounds like the guy only a little unhinged
I agree about Littlefinger being an intelligent villain, But I wouldnt call Tywin a villain? May I ask how you came to that conclusion? Ok he was a shit father but he would of made a brilliant king/ruler.. he was just, fearsome.. always one step ahead, sharp and not daft, he wasnt "evil" he was how he should of been for that time period, one of the best leaders in the show, if only he shown just abit more love to his children..shame Tyrion killed him on the loo! I feel like Tywin was the only man in the show that knew everything and anything and everyone around him knew nothing!
@sparkandflame As far as Tywin is concerned, Joffrey is the rightful heir. He genuinely believes that he is Robert's son and is totally oblivious to the fact that Jamie and Cersei were smashing. So in his mind he's defending his family.
i believe roose was really loyal to robb out of respect for ned but when robb married talisa/jeyne and lost the freys he knew robb lost the war so he looked out for his own house like a lot of lords would have done
House Bolton has always been Starks greatest rivals - among the Northern Houses - it's not likely Roose would have that much respect for Ned. Their loyalty during the war would only last as long as it was in the best interest of House Bolton, not due to respect or admiration for a rival House.
Fair enough, though keep in mind refusing to answer that call would have branded him as an oathbreaker. House Stark are their liege lords and vassals have an obligation to come when called upon. Robb threatened another house who danced with the notion of refusing to join his host and march south. @@ryankwon8785
@@DarkEcho119 No, no... The Boltons, after making peace with the Starks and swearing an oath to them, became loyal despite the competition, of course, and Roose Bolton was loyal to the Starks, even during Robert Baratheon’s revolt, he was in the rebel army... and also in the War of the Five Kings, he always advised Robb because he is a son of the North, but Robb is stupid.
When it comes to 2nd houses like Boltons, Freys, Florents, etc. only strength can keep them in line. If they sniff a weakness, they jump on the opportunity like sharks on a bleeding prey. Roose turned on Robb only when war started to go against him, he saw the writing on the wall and opportunity to escape the sinking Stark ship in exchange for royal pardon, legitimizing Ramsay and becoming warden of the north. The deal was simply too sweet to pass.
With the exception of Tyrion, how exactly did he mistreat Jaime or Cersei? He simply held them to the same standard that his father and his fathers father before him held.
@@WhobilationForcing his daughter to marry and breed like cattle wasn’t exactly stellar. The fact he only really put too much stock into Jamie is pretty terrible
@@rennac3152 Let’s not act like Tywin was the first person to marry one of his children off for power/position… that’s literally a common theme throughout the GOT universe.
@@Whobilation Of course it was an everyday thing to do so. Yet to actually refer to your daughter like live stock was while doing so defiantly give Tywin 1st place in yet another field. I got nothing but respect for the man besides croaking on a toilet
It is a shame how D&D downplayed Roose in order to add more Ramsay scenes. What they didn’t seem to understand is that, in the books at least, Ramsay was never the true threat. Not to say Ramsay isn’t a threat, he absolutely is. But D&D made Ramsay a way more important character than he should have. Ramsay is a distraction. Roose is the true villain, the real enemy of the Starks (aside from the Lannisters). He was planning to betray the Starks for a while, and personally stabbed his king in the heart. Even Theon, who has faced unimaginable torture at Ramsay’s hands, knows this. “The son is the shadow of the father.” It seemed D&D missed that.
I think D&D became more obsessed with shock value after season 4 ended. Roose and Ramsay were portrayed well through the first four seasons. But they made Ramsay the “main” Big Bad for the North plot line who could sneak into Stannis’s camp with 20 men while Roose (the head Bolton) got sidelined.
@@MrKingYuji yeah Ramsay became a Gary Stu near the end. They kept raising his IQ by 20 points each season, and made him way more successful than he should have been. 20 good men was absurd, and most of the North staying loyal to Ramsay was outrageous. The Boltons are the most hated family in the North because of the Red Wedding. Apart from the Karstarks, most of the Northern houses should have immediately switched over to Stannis/Jon after Sansa escaped.
@@benderthepirate I personally think they didn’t maker Ramsay smarter but everyone else dumber. Petyr gave away the most prized virgin lady in Westeros to a bastard boy he knew little about when he was already in great terms with the Lannisters; Roose keeps antagonizing his sociopathic son over his heir status knowing Ramsay is violent and apathic; the great Lord Stannis the Mannis with a fierce reputation and accompanied by a legit witch was ambushed by 20 men. As for the Northern houses staying loyal, that goes for everyone. Cersei blew up the Sept with the adored Queen Margerey Tyrell and her family and Faith Militant, but becomes Queen. Thorne kills his Lord Commander, but takes over Castle Black. Ramsay loses Sansa Stark and kills his father the Warden of the North, but people still stay loyal to him.
@@MrKingYuji They always were. The Red Wedding was the thing that they wanted to put on the screen. Those kinds of shocks are what they like, they just don't understand how to craft them narratively. That said, I think it's a shame that people forget how great the show was while they actually had material to adapt, because they were brilliant at transfering the books to the screen - or at least picking the right people for it.
@@BlackDiamond2718 I dont think so. Littlefinger was sneaky and would have still wanted to take it back for sansa. Ramsay was slaughtering his own men in the battle. roose would have let Jon's army sit outside well him and his army are inside winterfell
Robb was smart but he have big mistake that made him fall,, lost carstark for nothing, he break his oath for stupid love and didn't care about roose booltn advice. he deserved that betrayal
@@bzharzubeer2101 Exactly. Robb was too selfish. Ignoring just about everybody's advise, including his own mother. Ugh. Robb's death was only sad because he was a Stark and one of the main characters, but as a person I'm fine with him being killed. Such a naive little boy. Him and Jon Snow get too much credit. I'm glad that it was Roose Bolton that dealt the final blow and not Walder Fray.
Roose is practical and ruthless but not necessarily sadistic ( or at least he doesn’t want to appear to be ) . All his cruelty is calculated , for exemple he knew the value of Theon and what he could’ve achieved with him .
@@bzharzubeer2101Robb is smarter than you think, his uncle Edmure made a huge mistake by attacking the mountain too early. If Tywin would have lost the mountain his reputation was over. Losing three battles, his son and his number 1 enforcer. He was dangerously close to winning. Only thing he should’ve done more would be to declare himself king of the realm.
For such an amazing character, absolutely. It felt like the first taste of D&D's terrible speedrunning of major plot points. And especially after Roose had named Ramsy a Bolton and was placing more trust in him. The only poetic thing was that he got a knife in the gut the same way he did to Robb. But yeah, it was almost as bad as Little Finger's death.
In Macabre Storytelling's Game of Thrones rewrite, the Blackfish kills him, says "The Starks send their regards" and then he fights Bolton men and dies.
Number 10 is a good depiction of how Roose could be used by Rob, had Rob acted intelligently. Rob is basically on the verge of losing it because his home is taken from him. He's stubborn and dimwitted and triggered. Theon did that deliberately because of his own insecurity as well. But in that moment Roose just gives it to him straight by saying "you can rely on me". He heeds Roose's advice but just as the tide is turning, he switches allegiances. Basically I'm saying that having someone as cold and calculating as Roose when you are in a war that you have a good chance of winning is okay, but when you're losing you'd need him even more. There's an irony amongst that which i wish I could explain better haha
Roose gave a lot of good advice but Robb ignored them. He mostly aided Robb due to his respect for Ned until Robb’s decision making made him lose faith in the Young Wolf.
Roose might have betrayed Robb but he was a decisive military leader and his men respected and followed him bravely nto battle. Part of the reasons the bolton forces lost the battle of the Bastards is because they were suffering from the absence of Roose's leadership. Ramsey is not his father when it comes to leading men into battle
Not trying to be a book nerd. The character was well played in the series, but the character described in the books is way darker than what is portrayed in the show.
Lol you should never serve these types of people who knows when ramsay might decide to flay you alive for whatever reason. He literally hunted a girl down in the forest even though she did everything he asked
You’d get a nice bonus pay with corpse you loot. Let the lords pry the secrets and skin from living. The soldiers get to pry the coin and gems from the dead like crows
