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TOP THREE VR180 Camera Comparison: Qoocam / Lenovo Mirage / Z Cam K1 Pro - who won? 🤔 

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🔥Updated: TOP 5 VR180 Camera comparison: bit.ly/2HewraL
Top 3 VR180 cameras: Kandao Qoocam, Lenovo Mirage and Z Cam K1 Pro - who is the best in term of VR180 / 3D 180 for RU-vid and Facebook? Let's find out in true VR180, 3D 180!
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@barbuceanu2005
@barbuceanu2005 6 лет назад
I prefer the bigger inter ocular distance on the Lenovo Mirage. If the distance is smaller, the subjects look bigger then their real scale. I dont film objects too close to the camera so it is not a problem for me.
@hughhou
@hughhou 6 лет назад
If that is the case, you are right! I guess really depend on the videographer and how you use it. Good feedback!!
@user-qu6ct8nu1e
@user-qu6ct8nu1e 5 лет назад
Such a video is now better to shoot at a more modern Pilot Era. She and the resolution in 8K can be put, and stitches such high-quality photos and videos immediately in the camera pilot.pisofttech.com/
@user-ke8vk8bo4j
@user-ke8vk8bo4j 5 лет назад
In future comparisons, it'd be easier to follow if you keep a subtle camera label on the footage so I know what I'm looking at even when I scrub through the video.
@hughhou
@hughhou 5 лет назад
Great suggestion. Will do!
@cevxj
@cevxj 5 лет назад
These videos are so helpful in understanding VR 360 and what it takes. Thank you for the valuable info and high quality!
@hughhou
@hughhou 5 лет назад
I am glad you find it helpful!!
@jestronixhanderson9898
@jestronixhanderson9898 5 лет назад
So after using the Mirage for a few months now and filming a lot of different things, I have to say it lacks in a few areas. The exposure is bad, the compression is of concern and the frame rate is questionable. Compression is where it really suffers, for instance I filmed some rainforest scenes, rocks and slow moving water is fine but trees and leaves are not, you can really see the onboard compression differences between the left and right. And all long distances are blurry, which is probably where the resolution kicks in. For me the best VR I have seen to date is the GettyImages Vr examples, they are using maybe 120 degrees, so more pixels looking forward, creating insane sharpness and clarity. My guess is they are using a non commercially available rig, potentially using non compressed. Somehow they are locking the exposure, either way until we are seeing 8k 180 Vr images things will stay fairly limited, by 8K I'm saying the images, not the headset.
@lolitis01
@lolitis01 5 лет назад
Some people just use two professional DSLRs rigged together 3 inches apart with a fish eye lens on each. I've seen extremely clear pictures that way, but that set up is easily over $2k. Vuze and Insta are good enough for 3D selfies at a great steal of a price.
@Biketouring
@Biketouring 3 года назад
Enjoyed the video! Keep it up :)
@hughhou
@hughhou 3 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Danthol42
@Danthol42 6 лет назад
Good stuff, thanks. The dynamic range range of the Lenovo can be an issue. I've found the ISO settings to fix some of the bigger issues on blowouts.
@hughhou
@hughhou 6 лет назад
My ISO is actually to 100 for this test I believe... one of my viewers said you can get uncompressed Mirage footage directly out without using Google software which will have better dynamic range - but I still have not figure out how he did that. He is way smarter than me tho.
@Sandy92877
@Sandy92877 6 лет назад
Thx so much again for this great Video in 3D VR.
@Figyptsu
@Figyptsu 6 лет назад
Another awesome video Hugh! Thankfully I keep up to date with all of your videos as I was soon to pull the trigger on a Z Cam K1 Pro purchase. You mentioned the iZugar lense update for a newer version coming soon. Do you have any idea when Z Cam plans to release this newer K1 Pro version? Do they have an ETA you may know of? I couldn't find details when I looked. Thank you sir!
@hughhou
@hughhou 6 лет назад
Unfortunately no. Z Cam is really tight on their info. It is leaked picture on the forum but thinking KC Lai and the team has finished the design - I think it will be Oct. But B&H will prob delay for 1 more month. So if you have job, rent now not buy. Old unit will be retired ... All Z Cam products will use KC Lai lenses - which is great news but not for people who already own Z Cam...
@maonew1403
@maonew1403 6 лет назад
like always congrats ur the best thanks
@hughhou
@hughhou 6 лет назад
Awww thanks!
@gavinfarrell2292
@gavinfarrell2292 5 лет назад
I wish the Vuze XR was also included in this comparison.
@hughhou
@hughhou 5 лет назад
Yes working on it.
@joperez1980
@joperez1980 5 лет назад
Thank you, very informative video! I'm on the hunt for a VR 180 camera. My ideal camera would shoot in at least4K, with a LOG color profile in 10 bit on a high bitrate codec, with high dynamic range, at 60 fps and with a variable distance between both cameras/lens. Maybe I'm looking for something that doesn't exist yet...Anyway, thank you for helping me choose my next camera!
@hughhou
@hughhou 5 лет назад
It does. It is this setup but instead of back to back, you do is side by side: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bZrb_-QtzhY.html - GH5 is 10bit on ALI - with Ninjas, you go up to 60fps 10bit with ProRes RAW! It is V-log (Pansonic Log - so great for DR or other grading solution). My rig can change IPD with a nob! So yes. Totally doable. Only thing is not genlock - which a huge issue for some Pro but I never run into any issue - as I control all my take under 3 minutes
@filipecaco
@filipecaco Год назад
I'm waiting for a 3d180 1 inch sensor camera! This cameras have bad image quality. Is that ask to much
@WarrenBHall
@WarrenBHall 5 лет назад
Hugh you do amazing videos!!! Thank you for doing the reseats has and comparisons for us!! Question: I called B and H about buying the K-1 pro with the Izugar lens... they told me they don’t sell it together you have to get the K1 alone ($3000) and then order the kit for (another $2000) from Izugar directly. Does that sound correct to you? Because at 6:23 of this video you said “don’t be a sucker wait till the new model comes out.” I guess I was hoping they would sell the camera with Izugar lens already attached.
@hughhou
@hughhou 5 лет назад
Oh really? That does not sound correct to me. Have you try to hit up Z-cam directly? B&H might trying to sell their old Z Cam to you.
@WarrenBHall
@WarrenBHall 5 лет назад
CreatorUp u were right. There were trying to sell me the last of the old lenses. So I ordered direct from Izugar. Yes I specified I needed to buy the K1 Pro unit. They sold me unit with new lens. Should be here Monday.
@themadfanatic
@themadfanatic 6 лет назад
There was no way to fix the audio being out of sync on the lenovo? Also, do u know when the new version of the k1pro is expected to come out?
@hughhou
@hughhou 5 лет назад
I don't know exactly when it comes out - but expect late Oct or early Nov - very soon. For out of sync - yes, you can fix it by converting variable frame rate video into constant frame rate without Handbreak.
@garrygadget
@garrygadget 6 лет назад
Superb as ever I'm fed up of waiting for the Yi 180 so reckon I'll get a qoocam end of the month.
@hughhou
@hughhou 6 лет назад
Haha. Well, that reminds me to go check out Yi Horizon and what is going on... I actually film with the Yi many times already and nothing wrong - just can't say anything.
@garrygadget
@garrygadget 6 лет назад
@@hughhou you are so lucky getting all the new toys!! Yi are shooting themselves in the foot over advertising things then taking a year to make commercially available as the market moves on. I love my Yi 360 but it could do so much more if they would support firmware updates more. The 180 will be the same .
@hughhou
@hughhou 5 лет назад
Mmmm... honestly no idea what is going on re Yi. I am a partner with Google so I get to use their toys and test some cameras. But I do have this feeling Yi is going to have a big launch soon.
@RazKaplan
@RazKaplan 5 лет назад
Hi Hugh, what about a comparison of qoocam, Z cam and Vuze XR?
@hughhou
@hughhou 5 лет назад
Still working on those.
@SkylightproductionsCa
@SkylightproductionsCa 3 года назад
I’m looking at purchasing a mid-range camera to start offering VR to clients. In your opinion, are 4k/6k 180 cameras compare in resolution and quality to 8k 360 cameras? My first jobs are 180, but I want to offer 360 as well. But I want the best quality possible for my budget.
@GregK2754
@GregK2754 5 лет назад
RU-vidVR is finally on the Oculus GO :D
@hughhou
@hughhou 5 лет назад
Yes it is now! Just announce it 2 weeks ago!
@andreasw4615
@andreasw4615 5 лет назад
I really wonder how VuzeXR will fit into this comparison. Just received it yesterday and while the 3d-180 impression is great in Oculus Go, the image quality is quite poor. But this is up to the firmware and software, the built-in sensors are great.
@BoltRM
@BoltRM 5 лет назад
I am deciding between the Qoocam or the Insta360 One-X. Although I would prefer to have the 3D 180 mode too... In the stabilization comparison video you did in 360 mode, the One X was sharper than the Qoocam. My question: if a video was recorded in Qoocam's 4k 3D 180 video mode, would it be sharper than the 5.7k 360 mode of the One X? I'm guessing it would, since Qoocam's VR180 is 4k for only 180 degrees VS the 5.7k for the One X 360 degrees. Which do you think might hold up best in an action cam environment or head-mounted for snow skiing? OR maybe the upcoming Vuze XR, a 5.7K 360 camera that also converts to a VR180 ? Any idea when it will be released? Thanks, your videos are THE BEST comparisons I've seen! :)
@hughhou
@hughhou 5 лет назад
VUZE XR will be released end of this month. But stabilization Qoocam is unbeatable the best - even they do not hype this up in marketing. VR180 will always better higher resolution than 360 no doubt about it (more like double the resolution). But for head mount snowboard - 360 look cooler: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lW6UsQ098x4.html
@ilya-art
@ilya-art 5 лет назад
Great Channel, Hugh! So it’s Feb‘19 already but I think the iZugar update is still not released. Am I right?
@hughhou
@hughhou 5 лет назад
It is out of stock - but it is here. I know people has it. But if you mean iZugar for the E2 update ..... shhhhhh
@ilya-art
@ilya-art 5 лет назад
CreatorUp hey Hugh ! Thanks! I ment the K1pro. Ok so i will watch out for that one in Germany. And about the E2.. would it be possible to sync two together SBS. That would make some nice stereoscopic. But maybe the body build will not allow to have original eye distance. I did not measure yet.
@garypranzo9334
@garypranzo9334 4 года назад
What is the best VR 180 Camera or rig if I want the subject to appear bigger when up close. I have the Evo which is great but it works to well and I do not get the exaggerated size fisheye look I need for my projects. I was looking at the Ziruga rigs and the Zcam but Not sure. I guess I need cameras or rigs with less IPD space. for the bigger look. Anyone have any info on this?
@hughhou
@hughhou 4 года назад
Yes, you will need to reduce the IPD or you can do it in Post like in Mistika VR or the premiere free plugin: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kVYfnBjTUDM.html
@Tech-Guy
@Tech-Guy 5 лет назад
I got Z Cam K1 Pro, but the WonderStitch gives me "This Camera ID does not involve the Calibration of this input resolution". How did you "unwrap" the files from that camera?
@hughhou
@hughhou 5 лет назад
Use WonderStitch - sound like the ID unmatch - did you reach out to Z Cam?
@Tech-Guy
@Tech-Guy 5 лет назад
@@hughhou Thanks for the reply. It started working on its own. WonderStitch is pretty bad considering how much the camera costs
@Tech-Guy
@Tech-Guy 5 лет назад
​@louie damazo It was weird, I have tried it several times without success, but after a few days I opened wonderstitch, chose K1 Pro camera in Model, typed camera ID, and everything worked. Maybe it is the folder structure required for it to work that fixed it. You have to make new folder and put only two corresponding video files, and only select that folder in Input File Directory.
@MicahFegley
@MicahFegley 6 лет назад
Great video, as always. Any news on the release of the Z Cam K1 Pro you mentioned?
@hughhou
@hughhou 6 лет назад
The news just release internally on Z Cam Group. I think it is around OCT but B&H might be slower getting the new camera.
@hughhou
@hughhou 6 лет назад
Also, I think we should all united to get Z Cam to give us a fat discount lol - I also eyeballing the new K1 Pro b/c I am obsessed with iZugar lens
@MicahFegley
@MicahFegley 6 лет назад
If you have a way to get a group discount when it comes out, I'll gladly jump in!
@hughhou
@hughhou 5 лет назад
For sure. Z Cam is the only company I can not get my viewers a discount - so I am working on it.
@amanieux
@amanieux 5 лет назад
i have a cardboard and vrtv free android app and my snapdragon 835 cannot playck 180 vr in 5.7k without dropping frames do you have a better optimized free vr player on android to recommend that does not drop frames in 180vr 5.7k ? thanks
@hughhou
@hughhou 5 лет назад
Mmmm... no really. Oculus Gallary is the best with Go for 5.7K VR180
@wellingtonziotto
@wellingtonziotto 5 лет назад
Great! Do you know which camera use AMAZE INTERACTIVE MOVIES (Oculus Go Gallery)! Its very impressive!
@hughhou
@hughhou 5 лет назад
Wait the Amaze App?
@GenuineArticle71
@GenuineArticle71 6 лет назад
@1:52 recommended bluetooth controller. Did i overlook it? I can't find it in the below description.
@PatrickHogenboom
@PatrickHogenboom 6 лет назад
Came to the description for that too. Got a wifi remote but it only does photo, no video on my qoocam
@hughhou
@hughhou 6 лет назад
Actually I took that out b/c Kandao said that is NOT official. I am waiting on them to give me a better recommendation - they are doing testing now.
@hughhou
@hughhou 6 лет назад
The link is here and it is cheaper than everywhere else I found!! Only $3 lol: bit.ly/2xhljom
@faustomelchiorre4285
@faustomelchiorre4285 5 лет назад
Hi thanks for sharing your knowledge about cameras but my question will be this: should I buy a 360 camera o 180? I would like to produce some staff for VR headset which one will be better? Qoocam could be the right choice? Could i use the 360 camera for Vr headset?Thanks
@hughhou
@hughhou 5 лет назад
Yes you can use 360 camera for VR headset. If you are not sure, Qoocam will be a great option - it can do both
@21EC
@21EC 5 лет назад
whoa $2,995 for the Z Cam K1 Pro camera....thats a little too expensive, will they ever drop their prices down? I can only guess they will, but then by how much? like is there even a chance of it dropping one day to say 300-400$ instead?
@hughhou
@hughhou 5 лет назад
Prob not. It is Z Cam. They prob retire the product line before dropping the price. They like to keep themselves as the BMW of VR Camera. But again, gen 2 is coming out so gen 1 might drop the price on eBay and B&H - who knows lol.
@21EC
@21EC 5 лет назад
Oh I see, well too bad, thanks.
@barbuceanu2005
@barbuceanu2005 6 лет назад
Do you know if it's possible to increase the resolution of VR180 video with some AI software ?
@hughhou
@hughhou 5 лет назад
I don't know the way but it is possible - what AI tech you are referring to. Google JUMP use AI for stitching.
@amanieux
@amanieux 5 лет назад
if you say it is better to stay with in 150 degree to avoid stereo parallax headache why dont they make 180 cameras with 150 degrees lenses we ll get higher pixel per degree resolution.
@hughhou
@hughhou 5 лет назад
But it break the immersion - it can still be objects there but movement should be limited to 150 if that makes sense
@amanieux
@amanieux 5 лет назад
@@hughhou 150 will break the immesion at 150 degree just like 180 breaks the immersion at 180 degree, no big deal to restrict our field of view if the image is sharper in return it is a good compromise. it is already how they sold us 180vr over 360vr.
@xXPochiXx
@xXPochiXx 5 лет назад
Is the Z CAM Pro listed on the official z-cam site the updated version? Or is it still not out yet? I can't seem to find any information on the version with the IZugar lenses. The B&H site has pictures of the camera with the VRCV lenses, not the IZugar ones.
@hughhou
@hughhou 5 лет назад
B&H is pulling out all the old inventory so all the order is delaying until Z Cam ship - and I can not even order the new version is in super back order...
@xXPochiXx
@xXPochiXx 5 лет назад
@@hughhou Alright, I see. That's a shame Thanks for the input Hugh!
@CalmingWinds
@CalmingWinds 5 лет назад
Can't get the video to work on the oculus go. Tried all settings, 3d , 180 3d top/bottom and 180 3d left/right.
@CalmingWinds
@CalmingWinds 5 лет назад
I've been reading there is issues with the Oculus go no loading the right format from RU-vid. I have tried the Firefox Browser and it doesn't work either. Any tricks to make it work? RU-vid can be a pain in the butt sometimes.
@hughhou
@hughhou 5 лет назад
You mean watch RU-vid VR180 inside Oculus Go or sideload VR180 in Oculus Go? You can not watch VR180 in Oculus Browser yet - Facebook has not supported it yet. But side load VR180 works great. Have you tried that?
@jmtuber
@jmtuber 5 лет назад
Also Oculus Go here, same problem. I'm also using Oculus Browser to watch the video. Sorry my ignorance, what is 'side load VR180' ? I also tried all the possible formats that appears on the bottom of the video when in full screen but nothing.
@BoltRM
@BoltRM 5 лет назад
Side load usually means to load directly into the viewer or onto storage the viewer can read off of rather than playing from an Internet video.
@moibuspm
@moibuspm 5 лет назад
New subscriber here. These are great videos! I honestly don't like 360 videos unless it has 3D depth otherwise they are just flat. Anyway I was thinking of getting the Qoocam. Since there is so much compression on RU-vid and image loss I have a question. Is Qoocam the clearest video quality for the price $300 to $400 range? Sure a $1400 camera is better but I don't have the money for those at the moment.
@hughhou
@hughhou 5 лет назад
Not really - check this one out it is brand new: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-G26a7m9039c.html
@moibuspm
@moibuspm 5 лет назад
@@hughhou I just heard about this camera 2 days ago. Do you think this is better image then the qoocam for 180 video?
@mdcannon1974
@mdcannon1974 5 лет назад
Awesome review. I purchased the Qoocam. My 180 3D recordings are very grainy. I was told this may be due to an old SD card. So now I am learning that not all micro SD cards are created equal. The Qoocam manual says 'UHS-I exFAT(FAT64). I have no idea what that means. Can you give me a recommendation on a micro SD card to use in the Qoocam. A link would be great too. Thank you
@brazhnikov
@brazhnikov 5 лет назад
it is not depends of sd, it’s about camera’s image quality
@fazekasmarcell1933
@fazekasmarcell1933 5 лет назад
With which camera has he shot this one?
@hughhou
@hughhou 5 лет назад
You mean me? Hehe... Z Cam K1 Pro.
@DonLuc23
@DonLuc23 4 года назад
The noises and "music" playing while you are talking makes it almost impossible to understand what you are saying. I can hear the sounds u make but can not make out the syllables. Please be considerate of hearing impaired individuals
@hughhou
@hughhou 4 года назад
Sorry! I will. My recent video address all these issues. This is a really old video now.
@Sandy92877
@Sandy92877 5 лет назад
Hi again :) Can you show us how a good color correction workflow for Z Cam K1 Pro is done? In your Video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FnFvCCdYFCk.htmlm16s you output the Video as it is captured? Because in this Video here you mention the ungraded output while in your Wonderstich / Adobe Tutorial i see no color correction workflow ?
@hughhou
@hughhou 5 лет назад
I don't have one yet as I am not a professional colorist. I try to not teach something I am not master at - as lots of professionals watching my channel might pick on me lol. But just like any DSLR - you can easily grade it in Lumtri or Colorista - your 2D color grading workflow work directly in VR180. There is a log mode in Z Cam might to a little bit tricky - But with Resolve, you can grade it pretty good. I can make a not so professional workflow on grading if more people request that.
@leomonz
@leomonz 5 лет назад
my opinion is this camera neither do 3D or 360 good.... it is toy just for vlog or play around
@hughhou
@hughhou 5 лет назад
Which one? K1 Pro or Qoocam or Mirage?
@leomonz
@leomonz 5 лет назад
@@hughhou qoocam...
@BoltRM
@BoltRM 5 лет назад
qoocam looked better than the Mirage, I thought in this video even better than the K1 Pro, but maybe I'm missing something
@hughhou
@hughhou 5 лет назад
In 4K on RU-vid, it does not really matter - but K1Pro will look better in headset when you upload / sideload (not streaming) 5.7K locally. But it is a diminishing return on investment when you go up in quality (more price for less increase)
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