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Topping D90 vs Gustard A22 sound test. 

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My source is Tidal from RPI3 whith Volumio and SBooster linear power supply, RaimondAudio power amp, Audioquest Bedrock speaker cable and Tannoy XT6 speaker with upgrades filters (Jantzen caps an coils) , Kacsa PureSiver USB cable, Van denHull D-102 III Hybrid XLR cable...Recorded with Canon XC 10 and Rode Stereo VideoMic X microphone...songs : Bozzio LevinStevens - Duende and Fink - Troubles What Youre In.

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@rsmeshramesh6914
@rsmeshramesh6914 3 года назад
I was just floored by the music. Tks for introducing such awesome musical pieces
@daybank
@daybank 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing. Great choices of testing sample songs. I followed the song just only to surprise that it is from the great Terry Bozio and Steve stevens!
@mgsee
@mgsee 3 года назад
Beautifully open and natural sound.
@therustyspoke
@therustyspoke 3 года назад
Interesting...I preferred the A22 on the first track, I felt it had a much more open relaxed sound. I preferred the D90 on the second track...The vocals were richer and more up front. Both are excellent! Thanks for this.
@sunnyboner676
@sunnyboner676 Год назад
Both sound terrific! “Audiophiles don't use their equipment to listen to your music. Audiophiles use your music to listen to their equipment.” - Alan Parsons. Whatever you have becomes your reference equipment and the base of whatever you will compare other equipment to.
@DonutsReview
@DonutsReview Год назад
WTF the Gustard A22 timbre is superb! I had to go back to hear the A90 again, then I noticed that's where the Most Replayed section is (at the Gustard A22 start). Wow😇
@HungryEatNow
@HungryEatNow 3 года назад
Honestly I can't hear a difference but your cut is really sublime!
@datdudeinred
@datdudeinred 3 года назад
You can't in a youtube video.. & even if you sit in that room it'll be really difficult
@ztube2k
@ztube2k 3 года назад
quality of recording is awesome 👏
@ResilientME
@ResilientME 3 года назад
Very similar, you can hear the AKM 'velvet sound' in the both of them. I think the A22 might have the slightest touch more refinement but they're so close I imagine anyone happy with one will be happy with the other.
@milosevicbojan07
@milosevicbojan07 3 года назад
I think all sistem is good,power amp and speakers are great. They are very similar but that dynamic from Topping is really good
@parthabhatta1963
@parthabhatta1963 3 года назад
Can't hear real difference but your song selection made my hifi system standout. Thanks.👍👍👍
@svk29
@svk29 3 года назад
Gustard has a more natural sound.
@MusicLover-01
@MusicLover-01 3 года назад
Both excellent DACS, but wow you've really put together an exceptional sounding system 👏
@Lumperator
@Lumperator 4 года назад
Guitar strings sound more vivid and natural D90, but I have the impression that the A22 is more musical, has a better depth. It's just a feeling from the video. I don't judge DACs, just what I hear in the video by headphone HD600.
@newton5954
@newton5954 3 года назад
Great video I wish you could do another comparison with other music / longer I between switching like perhaps 10 sec more
@arthurmermelshtein1767
@arthurmermelshtein1767 4 года назад
Well done. Both sound good , the d90 to my ears has more depth.
@peterserrano9320
@peterserrano9320 3 года назад
the Gustard A22 is more resolving and expressive especially with vocals...you can hear the background echo more distinctly while the Topping D90 has an earlier decay and slightly less resolved
@Audfile
@Audfile 3 года назад
I just ordered the Gustard X26 Pro. Beast!
@JohnWell4131
@JohnWell4131 3 года назад
吉他: D90 00:01 A22 00:21 因為這是不同音軌的AB測試,像是人聲部分,D90 03:32、A22 03:08,一個有歡呼聲一個沒有且音量也不同,只能對比切換機器當下的細節轉變 光吉他的部分,個人覺得A22更好聽點 兩者都是極度中性的高性能DAC,差距微乎其微到了可以忽視的地步了,挑喜歡的外觀或更好腦放的買就完事了
@HiFiGOAudio
@HiFiGOAudio 3 года назад
Both are excellent devices, to my ears the D90 feels more airy while the A22 sounds more crisp!!
@sfs2313
@sfs2313 2 года назад
sorry but I own a HA-1 that is just laid back and almost as detailed vs the D90 SABRE 9018 chip, SABRE chip to SABRE chip. The A22 takes it for being detailed and yet no more grainy than the D90 maybe even a bit less, still prefer my laid back SABRE 9038 but I would take the Gustard over the D90 every single time.
@kotokoto9472
@kotokoto9472 3 года назад
Gustard has more expressiveness. If you pair anything with a MacBook, this sounds good, but it's not a problem for Gustard to be listened to with multiple sources, but let's not forget that Gustard benefits from a pair of DACs while topping only one.
@BestKiteboardingOfficial
@BestKiteboardingOfficial 3 года назад
I have an A18 and the presentation is a bit more mid-hall than the Topping D90 and Smsl400. The smsl is better than both of the others. Great dac for the money though.
@arrakian
@arrakian 3 года назад
Thank you for this comparison. It would have been better if the DACs compared the exact same audio clips, one after the other. Playing a song through, switching back and forth doesn’t give an opportunity to judge apples to apples, oranges to oranges.
@herrtrigger7220
@herrtrigger7220 3 года назад
Great point, so many videos do this and it's weird. Another guy does this with tube switching and the tubes change each time right when the music changes
@creaversum
@creaversum 2 года назад
Both are even. It´s a matter of taste. D90 I hear the singer is more upfront in the room. So I like that realism.
@gracefullygraceful9776
@gracefullygraceful9776 3 года назад
Gustard will sound much better in a reference hifi system. Sound stage has more depth when compared with the topping which sounds brighter as a result
@adrienjf3854
@adrienjf3854 3 года назад
Absolutly and i listen this vidéo with a Mytek brooklyn bridge and with my amp + in headphones too , speakers spendor SP100
@testony522
@testony522 2 года назад
wow gustard a22
@CraciunAlexandruGh
@CraciunAlexandruGh 3 года назад
@3:25 D90, presents a deeper, more impactful low note.
@markbajkowski1171
@markbajkowski1171 2 года назад
In spite of YT sound limitations, I detect much more organic textures/timbre of D90. A22 is accurate but a bit too dull.
@petermartin9494
@petermartin9494 4 года назад
Thanks for this, it is much appreciated. Great recording. Gustard A22 is a more pleasurable listen. It seems like they have done a great job with that. Some people have commented that the D90 has more dynamics. To me it just sounds a bit stressed and harsher and some people may perceive that as dynamics.
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 4 года назад
mab.to/Rcyl82rfz
@lucianobadoe36
@lucianobadoe36 3 года назад
Please, can you put the hi-res file available again?
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 3 года назад
@@lucianobadoe36 ok, I'll post another link today : )
@lucianobadoe36
@lucianobadoe36 3 года назад
@@cruzzeaudiochanel2581, thanks I appreciate.
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 3 года назад
@@lucianobadoe36 mab.to/42P0nAv3Z
@julianlopez85
@julianlopez85 3 года назад
hi thanks for the video....wanted to ask what is a good entry mid range dac for headphones and active speakers?
@claudioreig8620
@claudioreig8620 3 года назад
Hi Sebastian from Spain, can you upload the FLAC recorded audio comparison again? Link seems to be broken
@adrienjf3854
@adrienjf3854 3 года назад
Le Gustard est mon préféré , ,quelque chose de plus subtil , avec plus d'assise , plus de matière, le Topping est plus détaillé ,plus précis quand on voit quel DAC marche , mais sans savoir ou en aveugle je ne serais pas sur de faire la différence
@angusflood6801
@angusflood6801 3 года назад
To a large extent, the qualities these Dacs will be brought out by the rest of the system. The A22 has a more (and slightly cloudy), old school digital sound. The Topping had better decay and a more forward midrange.
@cygilbert4962
@cygilbert4962 4 года назад
Gosh, for me as a 32-year Classical music veteran, the Topping has so much more DEPTH. If I didn't know any better, I'd be impressed with the smoothness of the Gustard, but sitting here, I got goosebumps over the D90.
@danielc5191
@danielc5191 3 года назад
Hi there would you recommend the D30 and L30 for a 12 year classical music noob? XD. Have been using SR80s all my life without an amp. Thinking of moving up a notch.
@DJMikeron
@DJMikeron 3 года назад
If you hear a difference over you tube,you sure have a lot of fantasy. :)
@cygilbert4962
@cygilbert4962 3 года назад
@@DJMikeron I kid you not, my ear is that good.
@dq8979
@dq8979 3 года назад
@@cygilbert4962 please do a controlled blind test and video it. I believe your imagination is that good
@2006zachery
@2006zachery 3 года назад
Any chance to share these two songs? I want to use them to compare with A22 and A18.
@weiliao7642
@weiliao7642 Год назад
D90 has a much more forward midrange(vocal), and therefore sounds fuller and richer, its more airy. Gustard is more layback and calm but I feel the sound is bit thin, for this set up I feel D90 suits better
@mawe6628
@mawe6628 4 года назад
How do you feed the DACs with the signal from RPI? Via USB cable? Or SPDIF? I use an Allo USBridge Signature which supposed to have „the best/cleanest“ USB signal out to the DAC. ....but I still use an Intona USB highspeed Isolator to clean the signal... and it makes a difference, clearly audible with the “highs”. Could be, that the A22 shows the weaknesses of the digital source more than the D90? And therefore the D90 sounds more “polite” and real to your ears.
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 4 года назад
Now it's via USB but I need to buy an Allo DigiOne Signature because I want an coaxial conection witch is the best for me.
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 4 года назад
mab.to/Rcyl82rfz
@3811eric
@3811eric 3 года назад
D90 has my vote for sure. Detail clarity at its best!
@adfgyahoocom
@adfgyahoocom 3 года назад
Could you update the link to download the recordings? Thanks a lot!
@bryansu
@bryansu 2 года назад
track 3.00 to 3.30 can high the different. gustard voicing is nice, natural, more dynamic and airy. but for bass slam D90 has more mid bass slam. i prefer a22 hearing it here now. But i were to buy, i will go for the gustard x26 pro, because for me bass transient is very impotant for me. that mid bass strong slam and fast retrieving is too hard to ignore.
@alanchan920
@alanchan920 4 года назад
gustard sounded more subtle but topping is more dynamic
@ghatazhak4265
@ghatazhak4265 4 года назад
That's the way i perceived it as well.
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 4 года назад
mab.to/Rcyl82rfz
@binuthomasabraham8657
@binuthomasabraham8657 3 года назад
D90 (AK44999) DAC Chip AKM.
@michaelnyansafo7343
@michaelnyansafo7343 2 года назад
bluesound node 2i vs topping d90 which one is the best plz?
@landosazo7506
@landosazo7506 4 года назад
topping tops it based on the limited music selection...better dynamics and definition
@kthiha6927
@kthiha6927 3 года назад
Both dacs are great in its own way, Can I have the song link,Sir?
@davitdam
@davitdam 4 года назад
I really want to like the topping d90 more also since it is a mqa unfolder but I have to be honest.. (at least for this recording) unfortunately I like the Gustard a22 much more.. it has more clarity, more detail. I feel the fingers plucking on the strings.. more depth and more space between the instruments. Also the vocals are more relax and have a better place in the mix... In one word: it just sounds more realistic based on this RU-vid video of course. The topping d90 has in this video more mid and is a little more boomy.. but I’m really curious how it sounds with some mqa files! Because honestly I would really like to buy the topping d90 but I can’t sell it to myself (as a musician) not buying the better sounding dac😆 really like some response and thoughts! Kind regards!
@gmeardi
@gmeardi 3 года назад
But how could we judge from a low quality, lossy, youtube audio stream of such hi-end DACs?? And with what hi-end equipment are we listening at this low end quality? with an iPad? :-D Only the author's ear might expose us his subjective pleasure and comparison... imho.
@davitdam
@davitdam 3 года назад
Gianluca Meardi imho that’s difficult but certainly not impossible because even on a “low quality, lossy, RU-vid audio stream I can hear the differences between the two dac’s. It’s sort of the same if you hear a great produced song on a lower quality you can still hear it’s a good production. I think there is just a big crowd that just can’t hear the differences because it takes some trained ears to hear it. I’ve listened to the uncompressed files of this video that the maker of this video send to me and I heard it in seconds. Same conclusion: the a22 sound more open. But all imo! P.s if someone’s is listening on iPad speakers that someone is just not really serious. Just good headphones will do
@gmeardi
@gmeardi 3 года назад
@@davitdam I admit my ears are not capable, but... when we're talking about clarity and detail of a low res stream, or more space... I'm really doubtful. You can say that you like more one stream than another, ok, but being sure that the two originals have not been modified that much along the recording/stream chain... meh. You can obviously lose all of the 3d stage through recording and compression, and/or have some harmonics that acts/interfere positively or negatively on the final result. It's a different thing, I think, when you listen at two different recordings of the same song, with the same equipment: in that case it's easier to perceive the best one. Yet I accept that experience in the field may help ;)
@davitdam
@davitdam 3 года назад
Gianluca Meardi that is all very true! soundstage, imaging, harmonics, uppertones etc is very difficult to hear/not to hear. It’s all just very suggestive but it is possible in some kind of way. And besides all of that it all depends on your own system as well. That’s why it is important to try it out for yourself with the possibility to return it. I have to say till now I’ve never find a better sound than the chord products (Hugo 2 or pure dac Qutest) they got such a beautiful relax detailed sound with such a great 3D soundstage but super expensive at least including a pre amp(Hugo 2).
@AngryChineseWoman
@AngryChineseWoman 3 года назад
@@gmeardi I've had the two dacs for a few days and returned the D90, his description was spot on. Except for detail retrieval, where the D90 is as good if not better than the A22. The D90 has better sub bass definition as well. But I enjoyed music more on the A22, the soundstage was also wider.
@GurjeetSagoo
@GurjeetSagoo 4 года назад
Please post music titles... Lovely comparison by the way. Subtle differences but the D90 is doing it for me.
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 4 года назад
Bozzio Levin Stevens-Duende and Fink-Treuble's What You're In
@GurjeetSagoo
@GurjeetSagoo 4 года назад
Bug thank you from the UK!
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 4 года назад
mab.to/Rcyl82rfz
@GurjeetSagoo
@GurjeetSagoo 4 года назад
Thank you for the 192khz file, brilliant idea and helps with making a future buying decision.
@jimwong2823
@jimwong2823 3 года назад
Don't compromise Used metal speaker sand
@angelheart1129
@angelheart1129 3 года назад
A22 waaaay more open and spacious
@ic5720
@ic5720 3 года назад
El gustard a22 es muy superior en este video al topping d90
@hyroproto4364
@hyroproto4364 3 года назад
can barely tell the difference
@yongye1122
@yongye1122 3 года назад
Frankly speaking, a pair of good speakers can change the soundstage. DAC really has a minimum impact after certain levels.
@scaryperson27
@scaryperson27 2 года назад
Depends. With a set of revealing speakers, It can make a big difference.
@scaryperson27
@scaryperson27 Год назад
@P T Agreed. It is easy to get a great sounding DAC for the typical enthusiast. Once you get to the point where you are paying attention acoustic treatments, have a nice source amp, preamp etc, revealing speakers, then you start to see the benifits of some of the higher priced DACs. The analog stage has a not to do with the sound too.
@scaryperson27
@scaryperson27 Год назад
@P T I have one of those monster power center things. I got it at a garage sale and noticed that it really cut down on the noise floor. Actually what made a huge difference for me was recently I switched the outlet that My setup is on to its own breaker. I was getting some kind of funky ground loop which was audible from around 3 ft or so. Now notice hernibal hum at all. I will try plugging my amp straight into the wall see what happens. You never know :-)
@newton5954
@newton5954 3 года назад
New another video of this plzzz
@lancekimmons9410
@lancekimmons9410 4 года назад
Were these used In DAC mode or preamp mode? I’ve heard the Gustard pulls more ahead in preamp mode. I have ordered both to compare in MQA spec
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 4 года назад
Both in preamp mode...
@ESuutgrunn
@ESuutgrunn 4 года назад
@@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 put de Topping D90 in DAC mode en switch of the Bluetooth and than listen again... You can come into the main menu by switching off the mainswitch, press de on/select button on the front en switch on the main power switch. Now you can set it to DAC mode 😉
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 4 года назад
@@ESuutgrunn I use a power amp so there is no chance to use D90 in Dac mode...I use volume from the Dac.
@ESuutgrunn
@ESuutgrunn 4 года назад
@@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 than I understand why you use it as an preamp. But when you have the chance to listen it with an preamp... The D90 sounds very good! The link below is my set. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bInYsf6flKg.html
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 4 года назад
mab.to/Rcyl82rfz
@user-ew9fu9fj8p
@user-ew9fu9fj8p 2 года назад
i would prefer D90
@LordRedDragon
@LordRedDragon 3 года назад
gustard for 1st, d90 for second.
@andrewfurst5711
@andrewfurst5711 3 года назад
There are only 2 contestants here. Second is last.
@newton5954
@newton5954 3 года назад
I like your review but I have a question how do you disable the internal Preamplifier on the a22 and only use it as a Dac ? For example the topping Inside the advance menu settings you literally have an option where you can disable to preamp and only use it as a dac put on this unit you don’t. I want to use my external Preamplifier but I don’t know how to disable to preamp on this a22 :( please help
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 3 года назад
Only Topping can do that.
@newton5954
@newton5954 3 года назад
@@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 So you don’t know how to disable the internal Preamplifier of the a22? So how do you use it and only DAC mode? I’m also curious the remote control that came with the unit on the remote on the far bottom I’m sure you have a button that says DAC when using the unit and it’s turned on when you push that button for three or five or 10 seconds by holding it down does it now go into DAC mode and disable volume control? The manufacture told me to try this and I am doing it and I don’t see it doing anything so I’m wondering if it’s doing the same thing for you.
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 3 года назад
@@newton5954 I test it just for 3 days...this video is old, I dont't remember if there is a chance to put in in the dac mode 😏
@rajendrabiswas
@rajendrabiswas 2 года назад
Have you tried mdac plus
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 2 года назад
Nope...my journey stops at Rockna R2R DAC.
@Mario_Terzi
@Mario_Terzi 2 года назад
How can you watch TV so loud? Won't you get a stiff neck?
@mawe6628
@mawe6628 4 года назад
Nice comparison, although the difference here on Ytube is very small and difficult to hear. What I hear is the D90 slightly smoother and A22 has more micro-details on the edges. For me the A22 sounds more “real”. Which one does a more realistic soundstage mainly in depth??
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 4 года назад
For soundstage , by far, Gustard is the winner !!!
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 4 года назад
mab.to/Rcyl82rfz
@svk29
@svk29 3 года назад
The topping has less detail in the sound, my choice is gustard.
@Spicycomment1
@Spicycomment1 3 года назад
Its impossible you hear any difference via youtube on a poor recording .. so what do you think you hear?
@nortonfamily6711
@nortonfamily6711 3 года назад
You heard it here first boys. Audiophiles are now capable of discerning the slightest of differences between DACs over youtube compression and imperfect recordings. Absolutely incredible.
@Spicycomment1
@Spicycomment1 3 года назад
@@nortonfamily6711 these people live in illusions ... they read a magazine or review ..its in their head ..and then they believe .. and hear things .. actually, its funny .. i' m in need of one of them, i want to invite onr for dinner😄 so that he can talk about his passion
@junkyard3924
@junkyard3924 3 года назад
@@nortonfamily6711 You can’t hear a difference? Their sound signature is quite different.
@nortonfamily6711
@nortonfamily6711 3 года назад
@@junkyard3924 That is objectively and verifiably false. You could have referenced any other element of technicality and I wouldn't have been able to empirically disprove it, but sound signature is the easiest parameter to measure, seeing as how it is fully captured by frequency response. Any high end dac that isn't garbage will measure flat.
@zoranbabic249
@zoranbabic249 4 года назад
Which one have more treblle info, if someone want to open slightly warmish system in upper register which one would you recommend, thanks.
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 4 года назад
D90 all the way...
@zoranbabic249
@zoranbabic249 4 года назад
@@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 thanks for reply, got different info from other reviews, that gustard has more upper range and treble info, i guess it depends on the rest of system :)
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 4 года назад
mab.to/Rcyl82rfz
@anhtuanle2738
@anhtuanle2738 3 года назад
Gustard 22👍👍
@mykeldg
@mykeldg 4 года назад
the gustard sound like it has more z-axis / depth. topping sounds flatter and more compressed .
@ahmadieb
@ahmadieb 4 года назад
agree to this use earphones, A22 had more depth
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 4 года назад
mab.to/Rcyl82rfz
@davitdam
@davitdam 4 года назад
Sebastian Cruzze do you have an updated link of the recordings of this video?☺️ would really appreciate it!
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 4 года назад
@@davitdam tomorow I will upload another link for you 😎
@davitdam
@davitdam 4 года назад
Sebastian Cruzze 🥺🤓😊?
@AquaFreak
@AquaFreak 3 года назад
What do you use as source? Pc, streamer?
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 3 года назад
RPI 3 with Volumio, powered by SBooster linear supply.
@ptptt
@ptptt 3 года назад
how much is your Topping D90?
@newton5954
@newton5954 4 года назад
Topping slightly more warm and have better bass definition with overall. The sound I would say is slightly a bit more laidback compared to the a22 The a22 sounds a little bit more thin less Bass a little bit more forward a little bit more colder sounding ! That's my opinion coming from a guy that already has the d90 but always looking to upgrade. Both sound good but to me but I like the topping d90 because I like that kind of sound the music / the d90 sound seems to hug you more and give you a more robust fuller dynamic sound more meat on the bone !
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 4 года назад
mab.to/Rcyl82rfz
@20puskinas1992
@20puskinas1992 4 года назад
A20 sounds more accurate or in other words just like tinny bookshelf aka thin, forward and with non existant bass. Sabre chips have 0 coloration or character of its own unlike any other dac chips. It if its mated with hard hitting floorstander it will enhanche its character and sound will be even more punchy. if its mated with bookshelf whitout sub then tough luck.
@Tacet137
@Tacet137 4 года назад
@@20puskinas1992 both of those dacs are AKM chips
@veritas932
@veritas932 3 года назад
@@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 what kinda link is that?
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 3 года назад
@@veritas932 It's a download link to the original file recorded in 192khz...on RU-vid you have a crappy quality...but the link expired, it's only 48h available.
@supermegauser
@supermegauser 4 года назад
Friend tell me who has a better black background? Is the scene space more accurately drawn?
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 4 года назад
They are both on the same level of accurasy and black background...Gustard is more sharp on highs and low end , Topping is more precisely to play cymbals and female voices.
@supermegauser
@supermegauser 4 года назад
@@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 Thank you friend! 👍 Vocal is the main thing in music, do you think Topping is more correct? The depth of the scene, who is leading?
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 4 года назад
mab.to/Rcyl82rfz
@mistakeapp
@mistakeapp 3 года назад
my Sony NW-A50 SERIES will sound much better in a reference hifi system (Tannoy AMS 8 A ). Sound stage has more depth when compared with Topping or Gustard...
@ghatazhak4265
@ghatazhak4265 4 года назад
Do you have the original non youtube compressed version you can upload somewhere?
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 4 года назад
Yes...I have the original version in flac 192khz...I'll put later a link for download.
@ghatazhak4265
@ghatazhak4265 4 года назад
@@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 Much thanks. I am considering a Topping D90.
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 4 года назад
mab.to/Rcyl82rfz
@ghatazhak4265
@ghatazhak4265 4 года назад
@@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 Thank you.
@davitdam
@davitdam 4 года назад
This has nothing to do with the Gustard a22 but is just some info regarding the topping d90: I’ve compared the chord Hugo 2 with the topping d90(mqa version) side by side in my speaker system. And I have to be honest (at least with my system and ears) that the chord Hugo 2 has much more depth, a better soundstage and a more natural and realistic/organic sound overall. It also has more clarity and there is much more space between the instruments, the lower register is also more tight. Every time I switched back to the topping d90 it sounded a little more compressed and pushed and it was just more flat. As if there was a blanket over it. I also tested mqa files via tidal on the topping d90 and unfortunately that was a real disappointment too because playing the same mqa files and even non mqa files on the chord Hugo 2 sounded so much better! I’ve never expected this and I really wanted to be the right choice having the topping d90 but I can’t live with having that much of a better sound with the chord. Ps I borrowed the chord Hugo 2 from my brother. And I’m now in doubt to purchase the chord Hugo 2 since i need the pre amp function. Because the qutest has the same chip they say. These are just my findings! Because the topping d90 is an excellent product for the money! But if you put just a little more money for let say a chord Qutest together with a cheap passive pre amp you got so much more! And you really don’t have to care about mqa decoder yes or no because that wasn’t an improvement at all!
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 4 года назад
Hugo2 is 1700 euro and D90 is 690 so there is no poit to compare it...they are in diferent price category so it's normal to sound better 😁
@davitdam
@davitdam 4 года назад
Sebastian Cruzze that’s very true! But the chord qutest is less expansive but has the same chip as the Hugo 2 only thing is that it’s a pure dac so you need a passive pre amp or something like that to switch the volume. But for me there was a point to share my thoughts about this since there are a few people that were saying that the topping d90 was as good and even better than the chord qutest/hugo 2. And that’s simply not true. And for what I experienced is that price doesn’t always say that it’s also a better dac especially in the audiophile / hifi world.. so I wouldn’t say no point at all😌 Ps I’m still very interested in your recordings of the gustard a22 and d90
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 4 года назад
@@davitdam ok, I'll put a transfer link today to download it...
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 4 года назад
@@davitdam mab.to/tNRnTTEaz
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 4 года назад
@@davitdam I'll wait to tell me your feedback after you listen the original file 😎
@herrtrigger7220
@herrtrigger7220 3 года назад
good job on this but these two DACs are indistinguishable
@adamgieron1909
@adamgieron1909 2 года назад
What make amplifier and these speakers are being recorded here ? Love that setup
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 2 года назад
It's a DIY power amp & Tannoy speakers.
@adamgieron1909
@adamgieron1909 2 года назад
@@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 Cool . Whst is the model of tannoy its so clear , unbeliveable. Any name to that diy amp ? Any info i could dig out . Would love to build one.
@IsaacChew
@IsaacChew 4 года назад
Are you driving the power amp directly by the dacs themselves? Or are you using a separate pre-amp?
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 4 года назад
Directly to Dac
@IsaacChew
@IsaacChew 4 года назад
Sebastian Cruzze thank you.
@simonochoa5477
@simonochoa5477 2 года назад
Similar, I'd go for the best price
@victorhugochaucaponte2861
@victorhugochaucaponte2861 3 года назад
El D90 es más amplio y aireado. para mi es el ganador!
@riccitone
@riccitone 4 года назад
So each dac was being used as a preamp? If so, really impressive. I was under the impression that nothing beats a dedicated preamp after any dac, but if no preamp here then I'm a new believer in a dac-to-amp combo. to your test, They're both very impressive. Clarity seems more refined in the A22, maybe even the stage. Depth and dynamics in the D90 are great. Either would be great after some time for one's ears to adjust. Love those speakers, btw!
@riccitone
@riccitone 3 года назад
Rush Baba A preamp can make a wonderful difference in detail, punch, presence, imaging, stage and tonal depth if paired well with the amp. For example, a Schiit Freya (class a) + a high quality GaN amp would balance very well. Signal compromise only happens when impedance matching isn’t done correctly, or if there isn’t any gain adjustment at the amp and/or preamp level. But if the DAC has great Sonics and internal hardware, isolation and a really nice digital or analog volume potentiometer, then it can act as a really decent preamp. For me, (generally) prefer a dedicated pre - or really nice pre section in a well made integrated amp) to get that extra bit of shimmer and presence from mid fi to hi fi situations. Just a dac as pre can sound flat/cold in some instances...but as Dacs improve? Who knows. Ultimately a matter of personal taste, type of music and what you’re trying to get from the set up.
@riccitone
@riccitone 3 года назад
Rush Baba Haha! I’m also an elitist...well, at heart. For the kit I’d like to afford, anyway...I would LOVE a Nelson Pass at some point (good on you brother!). Yeah, the Schiit stuff is kinda noisy and thrown together from what I’ve been told. But the amp that was reviewed well with the Freya by a few around here has been the XTZ power amp, which has a gain adjust. Made me consider that amp, but I need to check/not sure if that is a GaN amp and not actually an ICE amp. Orchard Audio has some really impressive monos that I’m thinking about saving for. Really well constructed GaN’s and probably the first at such a low price range. They also have new integrated that looks really promising: orchardaudio.com
@riccitone
@riccitone 3 года назад
Rush Baba There’s another amp that seems really interesting, but am not sure about the availability? A colleague of mine got (and loves) a Clones Audio amp to pair with a Vincent audio pre. I think those have a different kind of topology, not quite sure if GaN, however. Definitely a chip amp of some sort. Had a serious toroid, well made, affordable.
@riccitone
@riccitone 3 года назад
Rush Baba Last one, sorry! But just saw this Hans B. review of the CI c100s hypex amp. Well made hypex amps can really sound great, and this one isn’t just a cheap try. They also have monos. Might be a good option: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9vd-sAYcdpU.html
@culinarypro
@culinarypro 3 года назад
Whats the name of both musical pieces?
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 3 года назад
You find it down bellow in the description.
@-SoundRes-
@-SoundRes- 3 года назад
Как по такой музыке можно что-то понять?
@DDD-jk5sh
@DDD-jk5sh 3 года назад
I'd call these practically identical, which means - impossible to discern any difference, through there may in fact be differences.
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 3 года назад
If you use a good dac with your laptop to play this video and some expensive headphones, you will hear difference 😉
@syaifulrizalmohamed5997
@syaifulrizalmohamed5997 3 года назад
Hi.. did you connect D90 directly to power amp?
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 3 года назад
Yes
@syaifulrizalmohamed5997
@syaifulrizalmohamed5997 3 года назад
Sebastian Cruzze no “hiss” or noise? Thanks bro
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 3 года назад
@@syaifulrizalmohamed5997 noice from where ? If you have a good quality power, there is no hiss...
@syaifulrizalmohamed5997
@syaifulrizalmohamed5997 3 года назад
Sebastian Cruzze thanks a lot.. its really balanced dac
@mikhezhov
@mikhezhov 3 года назад
Gustard
@stefanoazzi8425
@stefanoazzi8425 3 года назад
@Sebastian Cruzze for your taste....what is better? D90 or Gustard?
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 3 года назад
Gustard...
@stefanoazzi8425
@stefanoazzi8425 3 года назад
​@@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 Thank you very very very very much!!! :-) . I'll buy A22 next month...
@stefanoazzi8425
@stefanoazzi8425 3 года назад
@@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 Gustard A22 work with ROON?
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 3 года назад
@@stefanoazzi8425 Gustard it's just a simple DAC, not a streamer...if you want to use ROON you nead a streamer or a PC, and with USB cable you go to a external DAC.
@stefanoazzi8425
@stefanoazzi8425 3 года назад
Sebastian Cruzze thanks, so if i install roon server on an i7 PC....and i use RoPieee as bridge connect on Gustard A22 work?
@interesting7906
@interesting7906 3 года назад
topping
@popsi9733
@popsi9733 4 года назад
A22 more clarity and so musical. IMHO, in you tube I can hear the different with such condition like unknown the quality of microphone and mp3 quality. Wondering in real condition. I want to pair it with my 211SE tube amp and KEF R3 speaker system...... I had been many experiment with digital audio file, for me, the best sounding is 32/768KHz in AIFF files format, the sound signature will different night and day compare to the source 16 bit - 44,1KHz. More clarity, cleaner bass, very musical, more smoother in high. The vocal singer (sigh of lips, raspy voice, deep voice) will be presented clearly. I never heard clarity like that before... Trust your own ears
@marcusm5127
@marcusm5127 3 года назад
How did you even get 768 32 songs? I have trouble finding 384 24.
@admrgd
@admrgd 3 года назад
D90
@mikethebeginner
@mikethebeginner 4 года назад
All I can tell you is that your fancy speakers sound no better than my computer speakers!! :-D
@tamayeseruysal7405
@tamayeseruysal7405 4 года назад
Did you listened the rme adi 2? If you can compare can be happier 👯‍♀️
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 4 года назад
mab.to/Rcyl82rfz
@KissMyFrog
@KissMyFrog 2 года назад
Interesting, are the sound levels equalized ?
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 2 года назад
Yes, of course !
@michelhaineault6654
@michelhaineault6654 4 года назад
this is unfair because the difference we hear is mainly about the preamp section but as a dac only the topping will be much closer to the Gustard if not better and much cheap in price.
@ELSA-ex4ph
@ELSA-ex4ph 3 года назад
Is this true i was going to trade my d90 for the a22 i my headphone setup
@Sup3riorr
@Sup3riorr 4 года назад
hmm hard but it seems that d90 has more dynamics in some way. really hard to hear from youtube but my sennys 800 is liking your music ^^ tbh i dont think the gustard can match the dynamics and the d90 kind of puts u in a closer row as a audience
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 4 года назад
mab.to/Rcyl82rfz
@mambu5391
@mambu5391 3 года назад
Suenan igual, el Gustard tiene el volumen un poco más alto.
@angusflood6801
@angusflood6801 3 года назад
Just played this again through an excellent system. The Topping is definitely better. More space and more modern sound. Gustard treble doesn't convince as much and sound is cloudier.
@jd2plus2
@jd2plus2 2 года назад
How one hear the soundstage , not being there is beyond me
@stephenbailey9969
@stephenbailey9969 3 года назад
Unfortunately, both sound harsh to me. The Gustard is slightly less so and more textural, but still rather tiring to listen to.
@kamui3477
@kamui3477 4 года назад
Gustard A22  WIN topping d90 は、刺激音が強くて魅力があるように聞こえるが、おそらく長時間で聴き疲れする。 Gustard A22 は、自然な音。
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 4 года назад
mab.to/Rcyl82rfz
@BrentLeVasseur
@BrentLeVasseur 3 года назад
How are you able to seamlessly switch between them during playback without any hiccups or gaps? Honestly I am having trouble hearing any difference between the two through youtube and your speakers. Also since this is a DAC comparison, why not just record the RCA out from the DAC directly? Why bother introducing the added complexity of your system, room acoustical properties, and your speakers which I have never heard before. Those things make it almost impossible to really judge these DACs. If you were doing a side by side amp or speaker comparison then by all means do a live room recording. Also I would do a shorter clip and first show the D90 and then do the exact same clip again and show the Gustard. That way we are comparing the exact same music which would hopefully make it easier to hear the differences.
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 3 года назад
I record it each DAC separately, and after, just processing the video in my computer, simply like night & day
@topkho
@topkho 4 года назад
Which one is your favorite?
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 4 года назад
D90
@rcheskin
@rcheskin 4 года назад
Do a blind test. See if you can tell the difference.
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 4 года назад
@@rcheskin on youtube my recording is compressed from flac quality (192kHz) to mp3, so it's very difficult to hear the difference...in real life when you listen this two dacs in youre setup, the difference is night to day, trust me 😁
@gino3286
@gino3286 4 года назад
@@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 Hi ! speaking of virtual soundstage which dac is projecting the best spatial image ? i have an old Gustard x20 and i wonder if i should upgrade. For me soundstage is very important. Thanks a lot, gino
@vinylseeker867
@vinylseeker867 4 года назад
@@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 hello can you tell why would you pick d90 over Gustard a22? wish you all the best with your chanel.
@MititeluRadu
@MititeluRadu 4 года назад
Shame gustard has such poor support. I am looking for a DAC to use in my DSD setup, and I had to drop gustard because the driver support. I wait for aune s8 to make u my mind between s8 and D90.
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581
@cruzzeaudiochanel2581 4 года назад
mab.to/Rcyl82rfz
@shawnpwatsons1
@shawnpwatsons1 3 года назад
Gustard has faster attack and better dynamics than the A90. Lower treble on A90 sounds a bit constrained or slightly compressed....not quite as effortless as the Gustard.
@zweer13
@zweer13 2 года назад
A22 lacks a bit in edge which makes it more digital sounding. On the other hand is d90 always going to be sounding nervous. Digital is stupid format, as it is stuck only in one way of presentation from these DACs.
@giandujavettorello6184
@giandujavettorello6184 3 года назад
The Gustard has a drier and less airy sound than the Topping, in my opinion.
@gmeardi
@gmeardi 3 года назад
Well.. impossible to hear any difference on a youtube lossy stream, no? The author's impressions should be far more important than us listening at such a low quality source :-D
@arthurgrab926
@arthurgrab926 3 года назад
Tidal vs youtube!
@gmeardi
@gmeardi 3 года назад
Personally, after having read so many excellent reviews, I’ve ordered an RME ADI-2 FS DAC. A bit more expensive, yet I love it’s features. Hope I’ll love its sound too :)
@datdudeinred
@datdudeinred 3 года назад
If you would explain sound chars in description will be much better than a video... But nice system though..
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