Torchwood: Cyberwoman - REVIEW - Cybercember (Doctor Who Spin-Off) 

"It got so freezing we wore our coats and shared one sleeping bag. When we woke up the next morning, a dog was pissing on our tent." Thanks for watching this mini-'Torchwood' retrospective! Be sure to hit that "like" button and leave any comment down below to appease the almighty algorithm!

When we woke up, there was a cybermat pissing on our tent

Here he comes in a ruddy great tractor

Chris Chibnall - Creating half converted Cybermen since 2006

Guess we could maybe say that Lisa was Chibnall's first draft of Ashad.

Gotta love those cybertits. 2006 was a weird time. EDIT: I like your timing of the word "titillating"...

The Better way to design Lisa would have been a homage to a Mondasian Cyberman, not a "metal" bikini...

Prehistoric bird? This is my inner palaeontologist coming out, but pterosaurs like the one depicted in the episode were not birds - they weren't even dinosaurs. They were an entirely separate group of reptiles 👍🏻

So the design basically was just “one for the dads” mentality on set? Shame tbh, they could have maybe done something better

You saw that in Attack of the Cybermen back in 1985 when the Cybermen have partially converted Lytton before the Doctor kills the cyber controller.

It`s refreshing to find an online reviewer who doesn`t buy into the Channel Awesome and AngryVideoGameNerd style of "CRITICISM MEANS IRRATIONALLY HATING EVERYTHING POPULAR AND YELLING ABOUT IT!"

Could you imagine what those people who are like "Chibnall's Who is too PC" would say if they saw that design? Twitter would be in full meltdown mode lmao

"Here he comes in a ruddy grey tractor." DAMN! I CAN'T GET IT OUT OF MY HEAD NOW! Every episode of Torchwood will never be the same again when ever I hear that theme!

The best thing about Army of Ghosts/Doomsday is that it gave us Bitch Fight In Canary Wharf. The worst thing about Army of Ghosts/Doomsday is that it's the reason why this episode exists.

I went back and watched a lot of Channel Awesome era "reviews" and your analysis is actually really thought out and tries to give insight into the works without needlessly nitpicking the material for *plot holes* that are actually just the show believing it's audience can infer things instead of wasting time with needless explanations. I have never thought you come at material immediately with bad faith and that's super valuable.

As I'm currently recovering all the episodes of _"Torchwood"_ , I've to say: this particular episode has became one of those who personally surprised me; the dynamic between Ianto and her girlfriend really kept me interested throught all the episode..!

The costume though... The designers' libido ran away with them a bit I think. _She's got a cyberthong_

Absolutely loved this episode on Torchwood. Feel so terrible for Ianto

Time for extracts from Stubagful's Snuggly Chibnall Time: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XrfBGYcgTQA.html "I love the little skeleton in the jar!" "Oh my God, I've just noticed that!" "Why is there a skeleton in a jar?" "Why's she got fruit?" "In case she wakes up and wants some fruit." "I'm still reeling from that skeleton." "I know this probably didn't happen but I want a deleted scene where he's holding up the skeleton and going look at this, remember who you are!" "How has Ianto snuck a Cyber conversion unit and a part converted Cyber Girlfriend into the Hub without Jack noticing." "Wasn't it on fire?" "Yeah, exactly. Why did he bring this? What was he thinking?" "There's the skeleton in the jar again!" "The building was on fire, he was trying to get her out in a hurry and yet he had time to bring the entire Cyber conversion unit." "I imagine him running back in with a sack going: I need this Cyberman helmet and this chest plate." "You know the first thing a Cyber conversion unit does? The eye... and a bit of the handle." "It doesn't make sense." "The Hub's too small to have a chase sequence." "She must be taking half strides." "It's okay because they can't climb stairs." "You've got to have that scene where they gloat." "Oh, she's just made it!" "This is meant to be a top secret organisation and yet they just have the pizza girl wandering in." "I think what this episode is, it's an allegory for a VERY VERY messy break up." "Yes." "THE WORST!" "Literally the worst." (As a bonus from the end of his series 11 discussion): "Does anyone want to watch Cyberwoman again?" "Oh yeah, get it on. Piss on that tent!"

Season 1 of Torchwood is a guilty pleasure for me. I can put it on and just have a ton of fun watching it. Cyberwoman is one of my favourite episodes from that series as it just feels like one of those B-movie horror films you watch to have a laugh with your mates. Really don't understand the flack this episode gets (aside from the questionable design). A great episode to give Ianto some character development

If you’re looking at Cybermen in spin-off media there’s a free Bernice Summerfield audio called Silver Lining. Only half an hour long.

Next Time: They return again after disappearing for 2 and a half year, In the victorian era, At Christmas time, With a none Doctor, And the Doctor stays for a Christmas roast without having to leave after saving the day, I am getting for The Next Doctor, Featuring their second animal pets, The Cybershades.

This was such a welcome relief of a review.

So honestly, it was the whole loyalty angle that fell completely flat for me in this episode, for a combination of reasons. Firstly, four episodes in is flatly too soon to have a betrayal episode have any weight, especially with what had been a background character. For his push/pull of loyalty to carry any weight he either needed to have been focused on more in a prior episode, or if he was just going to be part of the furniture then this needed to wait until near the end of the series so that he's become a steady calming presence before trying to pull this. This problem is exacerbated by how dysfunctional the team as a whole is. What the hell does "loyalty" and "betrayal" even mean with a group this freaking broken? There's just weight behind it at all.

When we woke up, there was a dog pissing on the tent

16:37 - Yeah, what was it with Jack standing on top of buildings lmao But yeah, even with the silly looking design of the Cyberwoman itself, I still enjoyed the episode, one of my favourite ones from Torchwood

I do recall seeing this way back when I was young and for some reason I had forgot it till now.

Way too forgiving of Ianto (in this review and in the episode). He lied, covered up, actively sabotaged his teammates and got people killed. How is he still employed after this?!

the Sarah Jane Adventures was intended to be about a young doctor but was switched to Sarah Jane Smith got getting rid of the mystery in the Doctors backstory & Torchwood in the early development stages had the cool codename of Excalibur.

Great now I can’t get the tractor thing out of my head when hearing that now

Damn it... I haven't watched Torchwood, but I might have to take your word for it and give it a shot

I was expecting this but I wasn't expecting you to be so positive. Well done.

I wondered why Domino's stop delivering to the hub!

I watch Torchwood for the first time in November and I thought cyber woman was good except for the costumes which is just metal lingerie

Ultimately the most disappointing thing about this episode is that ultimately the only Torchwood episode to use a villain from its parent show. And out of all the Doctor Who villains throughout the years the Cybermen would ultimately be perfect for a serious, dark, adult (as in actually adult not like a 'horny teenage' version of adult) take. Some of the most interesting and best Cybermen stories are where they go all-in on the dark disturbing nature of the Cybermen and what lengths humanity will go to survive. Hell, you could have even gone full R-Rated showing the bloody conversion process the dismantling of people, and the pain of people being turned from emotional humans to something much more horrifying. Instead, we get this...

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Did I miss just how the brain was exchanged between to two?

How did Lisa transport her brain while she is using it?

I think you missed the opportunity for a Futurama joke with Lisa removing her own brain. "The easy part was getting the brain out. The hard part was getting the brain out!"

The original lone cyberman

Missed opportunity to call this episode: Womb of the Cybermen.

It was already teetering, but this was the point where I essentially wrote off Torchwood as shit TV. :\ One thing that frustrated me about Cybus Cybermen is that they were essentially a robot with a human brain plugged into it, as opposed to a total conversion of the body and mind, as in the classic series. But that wouldn't work for the plot of this story, so they just flipped back to the old style again.

Ive never been in a relationship but i cant see my parents telling each other stories about a cat pooing on their campervan.

Honestly, series one is my favourite series or torchwood except for Children of Earth, its the funniest thing I've ever seen, like if Garth Marenghi's Darkplace was actually a real show with a budget.

If "here he comes in a ruddy great tractor" is in Revolution of the Daleks I will squeal like a child. I doubt it'll happen though because Segun Akinola doesn't seem to want to use the same musical motifs that Murray Gold had. Unless it's a rights thing?

I’ve just heard that intro and now I need to watch torchwood

Gonna be honest, I forgot this was a thing, and didn't expect it here.

Next December, you ought to do one on Sarah Jane!

Next time on Cybercember: Hail to the CyberKing, baby

I do know chris chibnall want this to be episode 10 of Torchwood not episode 4

Owen seeing the conversion unit, knowing Torchwood One's fall, still gives me the same spinal chills as Jack hearing the Daleks' message in ''The Stolen Earth". Repeated viewing, same results. I watched 'Cyber Woman' back in 2006/7 as an example of Torchwood borrowing from Doctor Who in a lazy, deliberate way so my first viewings were coloured by cynicism...but in fairness the older it gets, the more the episode ages better. Cybertech does wonders for the appearance ;)

Oh god this episode is so, so silly, even for season 1 of Torchwood. LOL I mean what the hell were the costumers designer thinking! lol High heels? A thong? Anyhoo, I did grow to love Torchwood and that love was cemented in season 2 where the production value rose as did the scripts (also it did help they had a guest appearance by James Marsters as Capt John (who really upped the enjoyment stake for me) 2 was wonderfully enjoyable, but in terms of sci fi quality season 3 was outstanding. Children of Earth is the best bit of 'old school' TV sci fi that I'd seen in long, long while. Least said about season 4 the better though....

I’ve been watching Torchwood for the first time recently. Next one I need to watch is Ghost Machine

I haven't watched Torchwood at this point, Or in the past as a matter of fact, I've been always in favour on the revived series, The same goes for The Sarah Jane Adventures.

I won’t lie, I think Torchwood is legitimately solid man.

I don't think the building in the background was the Doctor Who experience then. That didn't start until Matt Smith was The Doctor.

I've yet to see this series, but I'm still planning it.

I've been meaning to watch Torchwood properly for a while now, and it's juvenile early days has probably been one of the great obstacles. Your review of Cyberwoman might just change my mind - it's an interesting as hell concept, and I'd like to see it even if the execution isn't all there.

I love the sex gas episode. It's so dumb.

Sexy Borg>Sexy Cybermen, no question Also, I think part of the additional problem with the Cybie in Pizza Girl dialogue outside of the lines themselves is just the overall presentation. I mean we got the the music, the kind of over the top crying and, oh yeah, THE FACT THAT SOMEONE JUST TRANSPLANTED THEIR OWN BRAIN INTO SOMEBODY. Like it's just ridiculous.

I think the big problem with this episode is that it's the fourth episode. Because it's the fourth episode, we don't have a lot of attachment to jones and therefore this "twist" isn't that shocking. Imagine if this episode was in season 2. When we would know jones a lot more and therefore would feel that twist a whole lot better.

Somehow I didn't think about it much at the time, but it is WILD in retrospect that this Doctor Who spin-off had 3 bisexual main characters (maybe even 4? Idk it's kind of ambiguous with Owen). That's 60% of them! That just doesn't happen! Makes it even more of a shame that this team set up (and the show in general) was so short lived.

10 years? Wow.

Out of time is my favourite torch wood series 1 episode manly because of how griping it is

how does one transplant their brain into another human body? head size, blood type, nerves, brains and time are things

Oh, Christ.... The ep that made forgive Batman & Robin (1997) for all its sins. While that film was stupid, it was unabashedly stupid kind of fun (long as you have a Four Loko at bay RiffTraks style). THIS?? Total ass. The show was a hard sell enough for me as is on first view when I was in Junior year of High School (and the only think I ever liked of it was Barrowman's coat!) and this ep made it worse along with the series 1 finale* and the "Lets put a Kick Me Sign on UNIT as a pisstake on Bush and Blair era politics Every year since viewing it, I feel sorry for the. actress who had to get that gig (beautiful girl too) *Least the Brigadier never sacrificed thousands of Cardiff civilians just to get his beloved Doris back.

I thought this was a weak episode but like day 1 it falls into so bad it’s good territory. Plus it’s not the worst episode of torchwood either, as that honour belongs to end of days

I like the intro tbh

Chekov's Pteranodon got a pay off.

i miss torchwood

Any idea if you'll do a third one of these review series? Maybe the master.

Your "Current Partner"? Hmm sounds solid :D

How Chibnall could write 5 main characters so perfectly but couldn’t do 4 still I can’t understand haha

I’m sorry at times I think Captain jacks theme is some of the best if not the best musics from the the whole Whoniverse it just gets me going

I like Cyberwoman

I can't be the only person who liked Children of Earth. Sure, the series was only written due to budget cuts, but the story more than makes up for the lack of budget, and the acting/CGI were phenomenal

I rewatched season 1 recently expecting it to be irredeemably bad too but honestly most of what I saw was great ideas with a lot of potential let down by bad execution. I'm glad someone else saw that too. Now I just need to enact my sinister agenda of getting people to realise that Miracle Day wasn't that bad either

Shouldn't this episode be released tomorrow as it takes place after the events of Doomsday??

I loved Torchwood (surprise!), even though it did have teething problems. By the time it gets to S3 though, it is top class (we sort of skim over most of S4!). "Cyberwoman" dovetailed beautifully with the main continuity, whilst giving the show a great identity of its own. The costume was a bit OTT, but doesn't (in my opinion) spoil the story overall.

Literally the only good Chibnall episode and it wasn’t even on doctor who and he needed a partner for writing the script

Just cuz I think it’s funny, I’m the 420th like.

As a gay tween watching this, I got the metropolis reference of the design but that was about it...

I didn't know people hate Torchwood season 1 and 2 I like Torchwood season 1 2 and 3

Oooooooh, so that's why I never heard of this episode before.

Oh yes this story I forgot it existed.

👍👍❤️

You know, it makes me sad that there aren't Doctor Who spinoffs anymore.

Her design is so bad 😂