Just to clarify, these are other comments they've made for each other through the years: Tori Amos: The trio thing [Q Magazine] was 1994. it was just a magical day. I really like those two. I had met Bjork before, 10 years ago. I have huge respect for her and for Polly. I haven't seen them in while, but messages get passed back and forth. We're always in a different part of the world. Once the camera was gone, we began to see what each other was about, and in a very brief amount of time we built up a huge amount of trust." Tori Amos (on Pi Harvey): We’ve run across each other many times over the years, we share the same agent. I haven’t seen her recently. You become a mom, you get involved in your life, and she’s involved in her life, and you keep missing each other, from town to town and city to city but there’s always been goodwill on both sides on both sides of that fence. I think that because we’ve both been creating for a long time and do very different kind of work. There’s always been a feeling of ‘wow, that’s another bird flying in the distance, doing beautifully." Tori Amos: I'll tell you now that there has not been one woman from a band that's turned up at my gigs. Polly Harvey and Bjork are the only women I know in the music business. I know hundreds of men in bands. And not just because they wanna get with me. There just ain't that kind of supportiveness among women in rock." Bjork: "When we meet that connection is still there; We tell each other what we're going through and understand in the way that no one else can. We're in the same jobs, seeing through the bullshit to how you can really feel - but we're also very different. Tori is magical and euphoric, while Polly has a more earthy quality" Bjork: "This might sound really arrogant, I don’t know, but when it comes to people who make music, I’m not very interested in most cases. That doesn’t mean I think they’re bad, they just don’t do anything for me. But I could tell very quickly when I heard Polly’s album and Tori’s album that I’d like them. Bjork: "I talk to Polly more, probably because she lives in England. We don't see each other regularly, I wouldn't say we're friends exactly. But we all definitely give each other mutual support. We have similar jobs. Tori is magical, euphoric and it's enjoyable to be around her. Polly has more of an earthy quality. She's so truthful and has so much integrity." PJ Harvey: (after saying she is interested in reuniting with them) I think of them very highly, both of them. PJ Harvey: For a while Bjork and I kept in touch. I do think of them as my friends. [Q Magazine]: Have you ever felt in competition with each other? Bjork: No way. PJ: No. Tori: Never.
I love that people think these introverted 90s artists all socialize with each other, even now. "Oh sure, we all live in a little house on Bjork Island throwing fun jibes at each other all day and gettin' our witchcraft on!"
There were many good female artists in the 90s. Beth in Portishead, Tracey in ETBTG, Kelli in Sneaker Pimps and so many more. So many good female pop artists too.
I’m in tears and clearly doing some heavy shadow work. Tori, you were, and are, my number one. Your music came to me at a time in my life when I needed it most. As a young pianist and songwriter, I was in awe of your talent, your music, and your honesty. I still am. You helped me to find my voice at a time when I was stifled. You spoke my language. I am eternally grateful. ❤
why always those comparisons? tori bjork pj harvey- tori is the new kate bush etc. every musician is unique and stands on his own. there is no better or worse. especially bjork. u cant compare her to any other musician- shes propably the most unique cause her voice is so distinctive and her style in music revolutionary. tori raised the bar very high as a piano artist. and harvey is one of a kind as well. all three completely different. the only thing they have in common is their uniqueness far from mainstream pop music.
And that's exactly why - or was, at the time. 3 "alternative" ladies interviewed together. And since i was young at the time, i too remember that Q magazine interview, this kind of things just stick :)
She's making a great point about the place of women in the music industry and how tough it was/is and the presenter is trying his best to move the topic away from what seems to be an uncomfortable conversation for him. Great of Tori to bring this up, this is what needs to change.
No conozco bien el trabajo de Bjork. Me gustan mucho algunas canciones de PJ Harvey, y soy un auténtico fan de Tori Amos, de la que conozco desde hace 31 años cada canción. Creo que hay otras muchas mujeres con muchísimo talento como Natalie Merchant (y con su grupo ten thousand maniacs), Ani Di Franco, Elena Tonra (Daughter/ ex:re), Lana del Rey, Sarah Mclaughan, Fiona Apple, Dolores O'Riordan (y con su grupo Cranberries)... y más atrás en el tiempo Kate Bush, Stevie Nicks y Christine Mc Vie (y su grupo Fleetwood mac)... Muchísimo talento (y varias más que no he nombrado por no alargarme)
Noneee of their music compares to each other and thats why I come back to listen because they capture a sound, place and time you can't just make out of everyday life. Each album is a world unto itself.
@@jacopomabanfibio4808 totally convinced , @Marina and the devil i want to be your friend ,an online friend were i can find you ??? need more cool friends like you ,please sis
got a really weird vibe from that....... in the US i dont think any of the 3 really got/get much air play... PJ harvey will always b my fav but Tori is incredible.......
People are surprised, but celebrities (whether it be musicians, actors, whatever) don't really hang out with their colleagues that often. Madonna talked about this in 2015 with Howard Stern. She said that celebrities are actually really shy around each other and that the only time they get the chance to hang out with each other is at special events like award shows. Because otherwise, everybody is busy working or traveling for work.
I dont get why people are so corny in this comment section. The guy just wanted to know if they still talk, plan to do something together, like many singers/musicians from the 90s do , specially in the alternative/rock scene which was less contrived than the rest. but i guess Tori always said she didnt like girlfriending and stated she didnt believe in sorority at all, which is the complete opposite of Bjorks view (dunno about PJ harvey). Tori has covered both PJ and Bjork tho
I don't think it is about Tori believing in sorority or not, i think she's more traumatized by the experience because her PJ and björk were the alt-goddesses of the 1990s, but she was the only one who did not survive the 2000s and 2010s.
And that's not exactly her fault actually, the us became extremely conservative after the twin towers, every female singer-songwritter there had a flop era after it, Fiona, Aimee, Manson, Phair, Love, Alanis etc, even those in the pop world like Madonna and Mariah did. Bjork and Harvey were British acts, so it didn't affect them as much, also Europe it's kinder with women when they're aging, Kylie Minogue it's still banging there, as Madonna when she hit 50 oh well, the fall from grace had started.
I think the reason it was harder for women to get on the radio was it’s mostly guys that become musicians, mostly guys that were into buying music. People in the music business are going to promote what they know will sell. What Tori didn’t mention is that most male musicians didn’t make it into the music business either. Now, Taylor Swift is the biggest thing on the planet now as far as popular music, although I can’t fathom why 😂 BTW I think PJ is the bee’s knees. 😅
Maybe I was just around cool people, but the gatekeeping by the industry always felt like either an excuse to not give them their due, or a false flag. Because every time they did play Hole, or PJ, or Portishead, Or Juliana Hatfield, or Whale, or Tori, or Skin, we all clamored for it. It wasn't the people who weren't ready for it, it wasn't a nation of sexist evil men, just like it with female rockers the decade before, it was that the labels being behind the times. Still the same today.
people try to compare the three of them by success and it’s so odd like nobody cares about Björk selling more or any of that shit it’s really just about the music with them
The Genitorturers, PJ Harvey, Björk, Lords of Acid, Kelli Ali, Sneaker Pimps, Queenadreena, Katie Jane, Veruca Salt, the Shitbirds, April March, Beth Gibbons, the Soho Dolls… maybe I veered off course by someone else’s standards but you see my point, as a man I’d rather listen to a woman sing than a man, but they have to do it their own way & they have to rock.
I'm a woman who's loved her music for 30 years, but the "it's harder for women" thing doesn't fly anymore. Sometimes I feel like she's living in the past in that regard. I'm a musician, I know a lot of other musicians male & female & none of the women musicians (provided they have genuine talent) have trouble getting gigs or press anymore than the men do. If you look at radio right now it's rampant with female artists (to stretch the word).
That's because she was talking about the past. 🤦♂️ the 90s and below were harder for women than guys when it came to opportunities. Now time has changed.
the only question i have for Tori is in 2023, Bjork continuously breaking new grounds visually, PJ won 2 mercury music price and continue to PUSH forward musically and artistically , what Tori have really done other than repeating herself since Scarlet Walk? playing old favorites,? covers and please the old crowd like me ? Or got married and have a child?
I understand what you mean but I think it shouldn't be a crime if an artist that has undoubtedly had a good career and left behind a legacy decides to not keep pushing. It seems to me that Tori, even tho she still loves to write songs and play shows, is not driven by ambition anymore and she mostly keeps her work to her community of followers. And that is ok imo. A couple of months ago, I was at her concert and I have to tell you that the venue was packed and when she stepped on stage, everyone stood and the amount of genuine love with which she was greeted was something extraordinary. To sell out big theatres and be so adored 30 years into a career is sth that not a lot of artists can flex... Now artistically speaking, I agree the decade post-Scarlet was her lowest point. That said, I feel like this last decade she has rebooted her career very gracefully with embracing some more ambitious classical music projects with Deutsche Gramophone etc. Her last album Ocean to Ocean was particularly elegant, beautiful melodies and stunning instrumentations.
Here's the deal, none of these artists have anything left to prove. In fact, Little Earthquakes on its own, if that was the only thing Tori ever put out, that would have been fine. That album is a beyond words masterpiece. It's up there with Kate Bush's Hounds of Love, Björk's Vespertine, and Alanis Morissette's Jagged Little Pill. It's a stroke of musical genius, and not one of those albums I've listed are necessarily better than the other, but they are all absolutely brilliant in their own way.
@@SuperPhunThyme100 None of these artists have anything to prove? ask Bjork and PJ, why they have been trying to break new grounds? I agree all listed albums are great. If there's nothing else to prove, it's better to stop putting out albums after scarlet's walk. Portishead has nothing else to prove(yet I hope) and remain one of the Greatest (to me) I am sorry to say all these but I am still a Tori fan, bought all the albums after SW, until physical copies are obsolete. See her in concerts whenever possible. It's NOT hate, just sadness, that she stops trying, or even get a producer to elevate her music.
@@chucktrev6929 Because she isn't trying to prove anything to anyone. She's doing what she wants to do, and who is to say that she isn't elevating or innovating with her music in her own way? How can one objectively say that she "isn't trying" when she's been on tour the last 3 years, released an album, wrote a book, etc?
She wrote a musical and did a modern take on a classical song cycle based on classical themes. Maybe not your or mine cup of tea, but definitely trying something different. I think that Tori isn’t as interested in exploring the visual and theatrical side as Bjork and PJ and collaboration. I agree, artistically PJ and Bjork are hard to top.
There is a massive audience of young women wanting to hear female performers like Amos Bjork PJ Taylor Swift Adriana Grande even Kate Bush now but men have a bigger spread of musical output in terms of genres and groups so thats why I disagree with her view that there are fewer opportunities for women.
Time has changed since then. She was talking about the 90s. Also, the keyword, "young women." It should be every gender and age that can appreciate a female artist.
She's absolutely not wrong, because in the 90's music was for the most part made for men. Think about it, the 90's. What does that mean? That means EVERYONE with power in the music industry and worldwide was born in the 60's or before. NOT exactly the most modern mindset for women was shared then. Even in the 90's women were still breaking from expectation. The industry catered toward men mostly BECAUSE . . . . MEN were the breadwinners. So if a woman was going to see a band or concert? She was probably seeing what her boyfriend or husband or father wanted to see. THAT was their bullshit mindset. and if a woman HAD a job she must be spending it on clothes or her kids or whatever. That was genuinely what thoughts they had. They treated it like women couldn't have appreciation for music on that level. It was dumb. There was also a lot of homophobia going on. If you were a man and said your favorite rock band was HEART you'd not be taken seriously. Because a WOMAN singer? A FEMALE band? Why aren't you listening to men's bands? It was a ridiculous mindset they had that took decades to break in the industry. SOME parts of the industry are STILL like that. WAY more male rappers are signed than female. Also wtf does it mean that " Men have a wider spread musical output than women " ? Women have brought SO much to country, pop, rock, hiphop, blues, soul and rap. I'd say women honestly OWN Pop, soul and R&B in all honesty. and of today's bands? Find a male fronted band who is half as talented as Florence + the Machine that is out and about and being talked about right now? There isn't one.
Tori is a classical music child prodigy, I think she holds her own against them. PJ is great but white chalk is three piano notes and a wail. Musicianship-wise, Tori wipes the floor with both.
I like pj more too....bt msically speaking pretty mch no one on earth can compare with tori amos...yoo mst not be a msician. This is not even debatable in the slightest, and not well everyone has an opinion...it's fact. Pj rewels thow.
Doing interviews is not working your ass off man ! Working three crappy jobs as a waitress, cleaner and retirement home staff as a single mother to put food on the table, send the kids to school and keep a roof over their head is working one's ass off. Being a man doing construction work, and then keeping the house in shape and cleaning up sewers and fixing streets to also feed the family is hard work. Doing interviews even 20 a day, sittin on a chair talking to people, is NOT working one's ass off. I am a wildlife vet i work 18 hours a day, i get bitten i get stung i get injured, i am always dirty and smelly and i still don't consider it hard work or working my ass off. Doing interview and singing and having a 60 millions dollars net worth like Tori and saying that this is tough, is a joke !
Yeah, the job security must be nice. Try travelling on the bones of your ass for months at a time trying to entertain people and mostly failing. Anyone can be a waffle waitress. It takes true character to say "f* that" and strike out on your own, against all odds, and miraculously achieve a modicum of success and comfort. So sick of these Joe Six Pack comments. Create something from your soul and see if anyone likes it.
It's interesting, but you know, there could be physical work and brain work. Physical work is hard for body, but it's simple for brain, and if you are fit and have a stamina and enjoy doing physical work, it's not difficult for you then, because your body is doing the whole thing and you don't have to think about it much. Brain work is a different one. Just one wrong thought or word and the whole your career could derailed, all the things you've reached will be gone. Interviews are tough creative process. You should be entertaining, enigmatic and intelligent all the time to keep interest. Not everyone has that.
I don’t want to dog pile so I want to make clear that you’re kind of right. Doing three intensive low pay jobs that are physically and mentally taxing while trying to raise multiple kids all on your own? Realistically it probably is more difficult than a lot of what Tori Amos was doing, even before she was successful. But, I think that doesn’t matter so much as the context. It’s an interview about her career as a musician and the comments about her ‘working her ass off’ came right after they discussed how all the men had it a lot easier. Using the context, the two of them are talking about her struggles in comparison to her male contemporaries and not to the general workforce. TL;DR While you may be technically correct, your points aren’t as relevant as they might initially seem.
You think musicians don't have normal jobs while they're trying to make a living off of music? Kurt Cobain and Trent Reznor were both janitors. Tori probably did do some waitressing and stuff. They also have to clean their homes and shit when they get back from practice. The Beatles in their salad days played all night long in Hamburg and then retired to bunkbeds in a windowless room with no bathroom and ate what they could when they could get it, you think that's not as tiring as being a waitress. I'm from a working class background, and my parents were also musicians, in fact, they did some of the same jobs the you mentioned, waitressing and construction work, and I think it's a kind of reverse elitism, that being an artist is not 'real' work. You don't come off morally superior shitting on other people's labor because it's different from yours, belittling the things you cannot do, does it make you feel better?
@@moonlily1 You mean when kurt cobain was young or tori was young, single without kids, they did janitor and waitress jobs and then went back home and swept the floor and di the washing up ? And you call that hard ?!! On what planet do you live ? Any student on the planet with proper parents, does that. And the beatles when they were young, unmarried and without kids played music (their passion) in venues at night ? Damn someone gives them an award for being so tough ! Do you have any clue what hard work means ? Try to wake up at 4 every day fix breakfast for your kid(s) clean the house, do the ironing, prepare the kids lunchbox, do the laundry, hang the laundry, wake the kids up, feed them, wash them dress them, bring them to school or to the bus to go to school, then go to work in a factory, then quit work, pick up the kids, buy the food, take the kids home, pick up the laundry, fold it, help the kids with homework, start dinner, clear up after you have all eaten, cleanup the kitchen, vacuum or swept the house, clean the bathroom and the toilet, wash the kids, put them to bed, and get ready for your second job, or start doing your budget to make sure you can pay the rent and the bills and keep on feeding the kids this month so you don't end up on the street or have your kids taken away from you. Live in constant fear of never making ends meet, live in stress, not have a second to take care of yourself because your family depends on you, not even being allowed to get sick because you're on a budget and if you miss work, you won't be able to feed your kids and yourself or keep your roof. And you think that playing music all night or being a single childless adult working as a janitor and waitress is comparable ? Who are you, gwyneth paltrow ?!
Overrated? She's literally a beast of a musician, probably one of the most skilled pianists in pop history. Plus, there are songs of hers that are mind-bogglingly complex and intricate as compositions, structures and performances. Puh-lease
