Tormach 1100MX vs Tormach 770M+ | The Difference Between These Two CNC Machines 

Except she is giving bad info

@@CAULEYJR Elaborate please?

Tormach seems to rely on the people they float product to for everything

To be fair, she only needed 5 minutes and 28 seconds :p

The funny thing is that it's better than Tormachs own comparison vids. 😂 Go Nicole!

@@shirothehero0609 I've never seen, but that's crazy if you're right. I wonder what the company compensated Titan for a strictly promotional video like this?

young? 😂

I am with Scott!

She probably meant drier. So it would go in your utility room. Of course, it would also plug in in place of your oven.

@@roflchopter11 Plus electric dryers use 220V!

Aww you Americans and your cute power outlets. 🤣 i prefer my English plugs, I can plug anything in anywhere.

@@wildin13 Yeah but God help you if you step on one of those plugs.

@@wildin13 here i am with my safe euro plugs and 400 volts readily available

Any part that will fit in the machine, given enough time to cut it.

pupu studios there is a good bit of difference, but ok

@@flatsurfaces1913 yeah, not really in the same category.

Lack of research dude !

It's essentially turning the mill into a CNC lathe/'vertical lathe". Pretty effective if you need an absolutely concentric, complex part and no lathe handy. The best collet and holder is usually an ER32 or ER40 TTS holder since the collets can handle 3/4"+ of stock. You can even use it manually in a pinch to quickly turn down a dowel or do a multi-operation drill cycle with multiple drills or boring bars pointed vertically in the vise and have the program run through each of them vs. changing tools multiple times.

What is the tolerance in milling? I think you are asking how accurate the machine is, not the tolerance stated on a print.

I thought I was the only one who picked up on that

Better tool holder availability.

Much less likely to have tool pull out and better rigidity

@@Frmrspecialist74 Bingo. Push the R-8 hard, and the tool holder can be pulled out of the collet, and it does not have to be pushed that hard with some tools. When I have that problem, cleaning the tool holder shaft and collet with brake cleaner, (get any oil from the surfaces), usually holds well.

@@EarthSurferUSA you can get side lock R8 collets, but I’d rather have BT30 so I can add automatic tool changing

Fusion 360 is not the CAD to start with....try Rhino.

Unless you want to do 3-d machining, you really don't need software to generate programs. I write them by hand for anything not 3-d machined, and I am just as fast writing it, (when I am in top form). I do use a drawing program to draw the part and find the intersections I need for programming. 99% of the programming I do is not 3-d cutting, but I have programmed some small 3-d stuff by hand also,---and took all damn day for an inch long feature. :)

How do you like your machine?

@@meanasscobra I can't give it a glorifying review, but it's OK.

@@meanasscobra well, I've got one too and I can say I love it as my 2nd cnc. I'm not quite as 'meh' about it as Dan. With a Power DB and 4th axis, you can quickly do some serious work. Biggest thing is knowing where it's sweet spot is and not feeding like it's a 20hp monster. Once you have a handle on that, it's an absolutely capable machine.

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He will find that "JOB" in manufacturing today stands for "Just Over Broke" and I experienced it even with 2 engineering degrees,---until I started my own business and got myself out of poverty,--with this now 15 year old machine in my shop. Most people I worked for (over 20 different shops), worked for somebody else before they started their own business. If he has the "sense of life" you say he does, then he will probably go through school, work a job or so,---and kick off his own business. You don't get that opportunity working in a union, (most do not look for anymore opportunity, since they are way over paid for the skill they have in manufacturing), or for the state.

Little girl? I can tell you she's not a 'little girl" with machining chops like hers.

Priced less

@@TITANSofCNC Slow. 300 ipm max isn't it?

Not sure if it's so much about comparing functionality or specs as it is about sponsorship and money. I'd be willing to venture that Titan and crew are getting more overall financial benefit from Tormach than from Haas. It was likely a part of the sponsorship condition to remove the Haas machines and Tormach would backfill the space with their gear. It also makes more sense to the educational and hobby crowd that they are focusing on. A Tormach is significantly more attainable than even the smallest Haas (A mini mill or TM-1) and makes for a much better starter machine should a viewer be interested in buying one themselves.

@@shirothehero0609 Haas TM-1P new is like $35k but even stripped, it's MUCH more machine. The 1100 is close to $28k with the tool changer and no matter what, it's hard to make up for the differences in rigidity and slop, in the Tormach. I learned on a TM-2P and when I used an 1100, I was horrified. For my money, buy a used VMC. There are used Japanese machines with 6-8k hrs for the same money. If you can power it, don't waste your time with toy machines. That being said, you can do a lot with a Haas TM and it runs on single phase power. By starting on a full sized machine, it saved me tons of money to only buy tooling once. I already had really nice tool holders when it was time to move up from the TM-2. I just had to change some pull studs over, and my really nice hydraulic tool holders, ER chucks, and Sandvik face mills were ready to go. The women in this video seems really cool, but Titan is no doubt making money in sponsorship the same as Saunders. I'm not saying don't buy a Tormach, but get the other point of view before you lay down so much cash for what is a heavily modified chinese desktop mill.

it also has servos for three or four axis plus motors can peak way above their power rating.

Typical 110v outlets are rated at 1500watts. 2hp = 1500 watts. With the additional load of the servos, controller etc.. I'm sure it hits 2000 watts +. Not only that but 220v at the same power can use smaller, more flexible wire. We all know the rating system on vacuums is "Instant Power" and not sustained power. 5 hp would need 3500 watts. Not happening from a 110v socket unless you're running a dangerous setup. Ie overloading the wire and outlet, installing higher than recommended breakers. Have you ever touched the power cord of your vacuum and felt it to be hot? It happens to mine when I run it for more than a minute or two. Big fire hazard.

2hp is spindle alone power consumption... what about everything else?

@@jackflash6377 Nice explanation.

Not silly at all. You always want to have a safety factor built in for any system and running it on 240 will give you a significant amount of extra headroom. The wiring can only handle so much current and throwing a 2hp motor, 4 servos and control electronics will push past a single drop of 120v on 16awg pretty quick. The motor itself (at 240v) will push almost 7 amps. At 120v it will draw almost 13 amps! A 240v circuit will draw half the current than a 120v circuit and thus can more 'effectively' handle a higher, sustained load than a 120 will. Also, your 5hp shop vac doesn't draw 5hp worth of power constantly. It CAN draw that much power if you're sucking up bowling balls, but I can promise you the wiring, motor and circuit can't handle that in a sustained fashion. P=IV , V=IR. Can't get away from Mr. Ohm. Hope that helps explain. (Also, Not trying to be jerk, truly trying to help explain)