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Toroid inductors for resonant converters:The beauty of FEA based simulation 

Sam Ben-Yaakov
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Комментарии : 41   
@kmnl926
@kmnl926 4 года назад
Thank you professor, always learn something new from your videos. Please keep them coming
@sambenyaakov
@sambenyaakov 4 года назад
Thanks
@jacobs7281
@jacobs7281 3 месяца назад
Thanks a lot for your technically informative videos and really appreciate the time you spend and willingness to share the knowledge what is the advantage of using Case-1 two single strand parallel windings arranged in a way that the flux is aiding each other on opposite half of toroidal inductor. Compared to Case-2 Winding two stands together in parallel. The same awg is selected in in both cases and both cases should fill the entire core. only one layer is used in both cases. Bothe cases carry same amount of current is each stand since they are parallel. Total inductance is also same in both cases.
@sambenyaakov
@sambenyaakov 3 месяца назад
I think this is the same. Looking around the area of two conductors in the two cases, everything looks the same.
@jacobs7281
@jacobs7281 3 месяца назад
@@sambenyaakov do you think cas-1 has better leakage flux cancellation?
@ruixiong5237
@ruixiong5237 4 года назад
It is a pleasure to see this new video. Thanks to your generous willing to share knowledge.
@sambenyaakov
@sambenyaakov 4 года назад
Thanks
@anumoditkumar8073
@anumoditkumar8073 4 года назад
Great .. always leaning new concept... Keep posting sir...
@sambenyaakov
@sambenyaakov 4 года назад
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@k7iq
@k7iq 4 года назад
I LOVE FEA analysis ! It is so informative and educational !
@sambenyaakov
@sambenyaakov 4 года назад
Thanks boB 😊
@johnconrad5487
@johnconrad5487 4 года назад
Thank you for making these videos.
@sambenyaakov
@sambenyaakov 4 года назад
Thanks
@WalidIssa
@WalidIssa 4 года назад
Here is the software link if anybody interested www.femm.info/wiki/HomePage
@sambenyaakov
@sambenyaakov 4 года назад
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@jackywang1717
@jackywang1717 4 года назад
Great job, thanks professor!
@sambenyaakov
@sambenyaakov 4 года назад
Thanks
@electronic7979
@electronic7979 4 года назад
Helpful video. I liked it
@sambenyaakov
@sambenyaakov 4 года назад
Thanks
@g1ld
@g1ld 4 года назад
Very interesting. I didn't know before that tending towards uniform spaced windings is better as would reduce the wire resistance due to proximity effects. Thanks
@sambenyaakov
@sambenyaakov 4 года назад
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@harshitsoni3256
@harshitsoni3256 2 года назад
Hi Professor, how would the FEM simulation look like with litz wire? Will it solve the problem caused by current crowding in air gapped core?
@sambenyaakov
@sambenyaakov 2 года назад
Yes indeed. But you need really very thin strands
@moriergael2023
@moriergael2023 4 года назад
Very interesting, thanks for sharing
@sambenyaakov
@sambenyaakov 4 года назад
Thanks
@marcinszajner2924
@marcinszajner2924 4 года назад
Good material but I waited for flux densignity distribution in this windings, it was but only for spaced winding case. That could extremly nice to show how densignity is change in case of winding distribution and how losses, inductance of inductor are changing. Once I writed on linkin case when I had problem with inductor in resonant converter (core was hot), and in this case winding distribution was problem. I change winding distribution, Q goes extremly high and transformer got damaged but problem with hot core was solved ;)
@sambenyaakov
@sambenyaakov 4 года назад
Interesting. Thanks for sharing. If not a member, welcome to join: www.linkedin.com/groups/13606756
@yashwantkumar1769
@yashwantkumar1769 3 года назад
thanks you professor please tell me the cores with air gap and without air gap and is their structures with cores to adjust air gap
@sambenyaakov
@sambenyaakov 3 года назад
Have you seen ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-M3OEM6lnfRE.html ? There are others in my RU-vid channel "sam ben yaakov"
@tarunbajaj9091
@tarunbajaj9091 3 года назад
Thank you the detailed explanation of the magnetics. I have a question that I hope you can clarify. I see that there are certain benefits to keep the windings away from the airgap. In case of something like an E core used for LLC converters, the gap is usually placed only in the centre leg. In such a case, is it good idea to keep the windings away from the gap or do we accept the issues that comes with placing the winding over the gap?
@sambenyaakov
@sambenyaakov 3 года назад
Yes, exactly.
@vasiliy5578
@vasiliy5578 4 года назад
Thank you Professor for another great video! This is truly unique content! If you have free minute, could you please answer such a practical question: I have a PSFB converter with series "shim" inductor in it's primary (wire is pretty thick 0.35mm @100kHz@2Arms). The problem is that inductor heats up very much, however, I noticed that the heating comes from the wire and not from the core (wire ~ 80 deg.С and core feels like 40 deg.С). Is my conclusion that this is the proximity and skin effect took place rather than core losses?
@sambenyaakov
@sambenyaakov 4 года назад
Yes the diameter of wire is too large . For 100kHz you need a diameter of 0.1mm, 0.05mm will be great
@Sai-rf8xp
@Sai-rf8xp 4 года назад
"in terms of proximity effect, the dristributed gap is the best but core losses will be very high for resonant converters" (around min 30:40). Forgive my lack of understanding but why distributed gap core is worse for resonant converters than point gapped cores? given same permeability
@sambenyaakov
@sambenyaakov 4 года назад
Because core losses are much higher in the powder core at high frequency, typical of resonant converters. See Slides 10 and 11. The comparison is for mur = 26 of the distributed core which is just about the lowest permeability you will use and this will correspond to the lowest core losses (in ferrites the permeability, obtained by a gap, does not affect losses as a function of Delta B)
@Sai-rf8xp
@Sai-rf8xp 4 года назад
​@@sambenyaakov Thank you Professor. So given the same AC application and working conditions, a ferrite distributed gap core would theoretically be better than a single point gap ferrite core in terms of avoiding flux spreading (and consequence losses)? First google results: "EPCOS have created an all new distributed air gap featured in ferrite cores...The fundamental effect of having gaps of different sizes and location is to change the losses in the adjacent winding. The magnitude of this effect does depend on the fringing flux which enters the winding. The overall gap remains identical, only the location and individual size per gap are changed. .. The overall comparison between a single air gap and several smaller distributed air gaps shows that: • The average of the square of the local flux density, B² average (relevant for winding losses) decreases as the number of smaller air gaps increases. • Evenly distributed and spaced air gaps are more efficient than an uneven distribution • The best performance/ cost compromise is to use three evenly distributed air gaps. EPCOS distributed air gaps cores are realized with nonmagnetic spacers glued in between the ferrite slugs. The required priority for distributed air gaps is the AL Value."
@sambenyaakov
@sambenyaakov 4 года назад
Good thinking. I should have mentioned this in the video. Feriite distributed air gap cores are indeed the best. There are some papers on that, people have used in primarily for high power converters. The down side is the cost and that the available selection such cores is meager. I hope/wish others will read your excellent comment.
@hamidk4772
@hamidk4772 4 года назад
Wonderful^n.
@sambenyaakov
@sambenyaakov 4 года назад
🙏😊
@yashwantkumar1769
@yashwantkumar1769 3 года назад
ok ans is in this lacture allredy
@sambenyaakov
@sambenyaakov 3 года назад
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