Toronto Maple Leafs Offseason Outlook 

"Simon Benoit is a 6/7 defenseman".... Did this guy watch the playoffs? Benoit and McCabe were solid.

If you want to change culture then you need to get a goalie, couple of strong defensemen, and replace Marner, Tavares, and All the coaches and Shanny.

Benoit a 6 or 7 guy! LOL , can't believe he said that with a straight face.

Leafs lost game 7 in OT Swayman held Boston in the games they won that could have gone either way. Does Toronto need changes, yes I believe at Coaching, Defense and Goaltending. Marner is the obvious choice, and a decent return could be a breath of fresh air. Swayman did the same to Florida last night

10 years. Enough is enough.

I live in Toronto. Every show is talking about Marner and a trade. The Leafs aren’t eating any money for Marner.

They can trade Marner, but the Leafs are stuck with Tavares for one more year.

The Leafs should not retain on Marner LOL. There are plenty of young teams that need help making the playoffs with cap space to pay him in full and sign him next year. Why on earth would an NHL team trade for him if they can't afford the 12 million next year anyway is beyond me. We're talking about a guy that is still worth multiple 1st round picks in value here. Marner is not a rental - he is only being traded to a team that is going to sign him for 8 years due to the NTC. Marner will not agree to a rental situation. I can easily see many 3-way deals that make sense. 1. Leafs trade Marner to a team that is finished rebuilding that still needs to make the playoffs and still has plenty of cap space. For all of Marner's issues in the playoffs, there are still 10 teams that would love to have him just to make the playoffs. 2. That team then trades picks and late prospects to another team entering a rebuild. 3. That team then sends useful defensemen and cup-caliber pieces back to Toronto.

It’s the culture. Too many players of the same kind. This team needs a Mathew Tkchuk

Any salary increase for players should be based on the number of goals. For example if you cannot score 70 goals per season then salary needs to be reduced by ten percent.

Brendan Shanahan has for 10 seasons been Leafs' President. Whether Keith Pelley, CEO of Leafs' ownership group Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment (MLSE), agrees with me that Shanny must go, so that the AM34-Marner-Nylander-Rielly-Tavares quintet has a chance of being split up (given how ineffective so many members of that quintet were during the recent Leafs-Bruins playoff series), still remains TBD.

Just passing through to see what the experts think?

Bruins need Tavares lol

Where do you find the money, he asks. You start by not signing multiple players to $11M+ contracts, to begin with. That's where you find the money. Good luck getting Tavares or Marner to waive their NMC. Sit them in the press box all you want. Marner is all about the money, not about the game. If anyone thinks sitting him in the press box is going to affect him in the least, well, you're in for an eye opener.

Tavares isn’t going anywhere and Leafs don’t want to shop him. They will resign him @ $3-$5M at the end of the year for 3 more years I bet. He has small kids, he doesn’t want to uproot them and he will take a team friendly deal to stay. His contact isn’t the problem this year or next as there is limited cap savings if have to eat any of the contract and certainly not going to buy him out. Doesn’t make any sense.

Marner and JT get bonus payout of July 1 . Then the get paid 800000 for the season so what cap space will Toronto keep in a trade. 100,000 or 400,000 as 50 % retained. The leafs should get massive amounts of first for this contract as the team getting him paying him less than league minimum and he has 10 to 11 million on your cap to get a new team like Seattle to the floor. Seattle gives Wright Larson and two first round picks for Marner

GM Brad needs to create som magic and trade Marner to create capspace for the D. Keep Tavares and re-sign him as a 3rd-line-center for a 2 or 3-year-contract. AAV 4,5 mill.

Marner gonna sign 8x 12

If I am Keith Pelley I fire Shanahan and give Treliving the Senior VP of Hockey ops & General Manager or President of Hockey Ops role. Hire Andrew Lugerner as the Associate GM or General Manager and bring in Craig Berube or another coach with cup pedigree. I would even consider trying to nab Doug Armstrong or George McPhee. Copy the Knights model. Leafs have 95 million in payroll use the knights resources to find sleepers who can compete in the playoffs and lean out your roster. Trade Marner, JT & Rielly. Sign Stolarz and make Woll the starter. Find a goalie who can compete for the starting position and draft them. Leafs roster should look like the Golden Knights not the sens roster.

Shanahan had the plan. Dubas screwed with that plan and Treliving is stuck with little maneuvering room. The Leafs have the wrong core 4. If you are going to go with core 4 you need strength down the middle. 3 solid centers and a top rate goalie, backed up by quality journeymen, especially on defence. Leafs don't have a top rate goalie. Samsonov gives up too many soft goals and Woll is hurt too much. Keep Woll for backup. Need a number one goalie. You have two solid defensemen in Reilly and McCabe, and possibly Lyubushkin. The rest are disposable. Luke Schenn is not a star but he is a playoff warrior with 2 cups and with him in the lineup last year Leafs went to the second round. We need some Luke Schenns. Up front, too many high scoring poster boys who disappear in the playoffs. My suggestion. Consider next year a rebuild yet again. Let Marner and Tavares play out their contracts and kiss them goodbye. Draft the best players you can in the next draft with the intent of letting them mature in the minors. Move heaven and earth to get a top rate goalie a.s.a.p. One who can steal you a game here and there. If he gets hot in the playoffs it could be a pleasant surprise. Summer 2025 with Marner and Tavares gone go after another top notch center in the free agent market but continue to build through the draft as was supposed to happen.

We need a goalie that's consistent with samsanov you never know who's gonna show up and that doesn't cut it in the playoffs

Keep this front of mind, if Shanahan is fired, everyone below him is gone. Now you're effectively into a rebuild.

I know I'm in a minority but I would leave the core four/five alone. Replace Keefe with Berube or Brind'Amour, sign Brett Pesce and find a steady backup for Woll.

Marner for Adrian Kempe and some cap space please. He'll get to golf every day in LA.

Has Treliving won stanley with any team?

Marner will go to Chicago, you heard it here first, wanna know why? Marner loves to be in the spotlight playing with another superstar like Matthews as exemple, he is great in the regular season and will be trilled to pair with bedard.

Hey Toronto have you seen how good proper play-off teams actually are? & you really thought 69 goal Matthews was the NHL story of this year?

Keep Mathew’s and nylander as the core offense. That’s it. Trade Tavares, Marner, Samsonov. Fire Keefe and Shanahan. Can we PLEASE find a GOOD goaltender? They will never win if they do not have top 10 goalie in the league.

If they can dump marner and Tavares they could start building a championship roster

Find a way to trade Tavares and Rielly

The team stays the same, no one is moving because of NMC for one more year lol!

The leafs are a monopoly. They do not need to do anything. The only pressure is from fans (who keep on paying) and the media, who keep on earning.

Buy outs and change coach and president

They should put the Leafs in the PWHL...see how they do against other girls.🤣🤣🤣

B's fan. This team is closer than you think. Marner to Anaheim for Gibson and 2nd pairing D-man. Marner wants to "the man," let him be the man. Gibson paired with Woll in a B's-type rotation seasons Woll for the starting role and reduces Gibson's workload, making him fresher. You have to pay for a quality goaltender; it would be a money in, money out deal.

Would he go buy some Islanders pajamas??

You simply do not get rid of elite players, which are so hard to find, Tavares can be renegotiated after next year for substantially less, or you can move him. Leaf's have very good prospects that can be brought up. The Leafs' took the Bruins to 7 games and overtime, and they just beat the Panthers 5 - 1, everyone in L:eaf's Nation is very emotional now, lets simmer down and not over react and destroy what's here.

why would they eat any $? bad assumption

You keep Marner and you find a way to get rid of Tavares. Samgoalnov needs to go too

Where they go after every season. The Tin Cup series awarded to the first one playing golf AKA Matthew’s Open.

Lame excuses! Just blow it up, end of the story! Fire Shanahan and the entire coaching staff, get rid of Samsonov, Liljegren, Rielly, T.J.Brodie, Giordano, Tavares, Marner and Matthews, bring in a new coach and start all over again. That's the only right way to fix it! Anything else will only make it worse!

Lol almost all those goals were the goalie out of position.

How smart are the agents? Marner gets out, taveres can go, Matthews is short term and nylander is long term: ALL AFTER fleecing the leafs because they are ALWAYS desperate 😂 Mark Hunter is close to another Memorial Cup; just saying...

shanahan is directly responsible for not getting rid of rielly and marner 2 of the most overrated players in the league and if you follow the leafs we have studs coming up on defence but you know how long it takes a defenceman to develop very few make the lineup within the first couple of years so in that being said im thinkin 2027 we will be fn bulls so i was 1 when they win there last 1 so i better start laying off the beer and burgers if im gonna be around for the next one go leafs go

Sam bein' nice cuz' he's on the American network,,,,,,c'mon Sam just say it,,,,Shanny should be fired along with the whole coaching staff. Marner's gotta go and other guys with term on their deals to let people know the party's over. Try to sign Montour and Pesce. Loose Liljigren,,,Robertson,,,Jarnkrok,,,Kampf. Bring in big bodies. Hire Berube to coach. Develop a new identity on your 3rd and 4th lines. ETC ETC ETC

You people need to learn that no team is gonna trade for any of those team breaking/cap destroying contracts for players who refuse to play in the playoffs. 🤷 😂

The coach isn’t the problem, Matthew’s always hurt can’t score much in playoffs makes league highest money soon, Marner soft never shoots or likes to get hit, Taveres is slow and playoffs are fast paced. Nylander is ok but for 11.5 million no thanks

Its such a crock of crap ...wondering what went wrong...its like the Leafs have committed a Felony by not winning the Stanley Cup....why would any player want to play for Toronto...they have the most distractions and pressures in Toronto than anywhere by far in the NHL....ITS A GAME! Marner has avearaged 95 pts this past 3 or 4 years . Maybe let the owners and management make the neccessary moves...and if fans dont like their moves ..then they should go first. NO need of the fans rideculing Marner after his contributions to make it to the playoffs for so long..after the leafs couldnt make it to the playoffs for well over a decade. If the leafs went 3 rounds ..the fans would still Trash Marner & the team. There are no gaurantees in the playoffs..but because there isnt a cup every year....they almost demand it in the following year. It do not work like that ...each year there is a 3 % chance of a team winning the cup. Most fans do not know math. Trades yes....but constant ridecule and trash talk of the team you are suppose to support is a big NO

Get rid of Tavares and marner

It's funny that each of their albatross contracts (and make no mistake, they are albatross contracts), used to be look upon with such glee and delight by "leaf nation". Now, they wanna run half of the "core fore", out of town, because they finally understand what we all understood years ago. 😆 Never change, leaf fans. Never change.

Nylander SUCKS!! Do these people watch the games?? Both Marner and Nylander need to go, Both do not compete hard enough for the salaries they get. Even if you lose both trades they are both massive liabilities when the games matter.

maybe? keefe wasnt even a good regular season coach, he should have been gone, well, he should never have been hired, not built of the stuff., new career period.

Where do they go from here? Not to the Stanley cup finals, that's forsure.

Outlook: Grim. The only solution is Mitch Marner for Pierre Luc Dubois.

1959, lets leave it at that lol

If Don Cherry survived the poppy outburst, he would accuse Shanahan & Treviling of advocating slavery by having the players play soft.

Bullshit! Won't be eating anything! Off season lots wiggle room. A bunch arm chair TV analyst that are guessing

Marner doesn’t deserve to be getting Sh!t on the way he has been over the last week. Nobody scored for the leafs in the playoffs! He plays the PP the PK top line, from his draft year he is behind one player in points….. Mcdavid…. Toronto doesn’t deserve him. The fans treat him like garbage. Leafs fair weather fans are the worst

just getting rid of marner and not getting bent over again is what needs to happen. teams will want to do a sign and trade so they will have to give up the goods to get him. if he comes back and gets an extension that is a wrap for the matthews era

Matthews is a bust. Less than 0.5 goals over 8 years of playoffs. 1 goal in last 10 playoff games, bailed over the sniffles when others play with punctured lungs, punctured sternums, dislocated shoulders, torn ACL'S and your boy jumped ship. He's highest paid player, this is all on his failed butt.

lmao, the Leafs' defense is what almost won them the series... yet buddy here thinks they need to address the defense? I'm not saying it looks good on paper, but based on playoff results it's the forward group that needs to be addressed...