Not only is it really satisfying doing it manually but it's a huge part of the gameplay loop. You will find you get more playtime out of the game than if you just have it all done automatically. You just need to find the balance of manual and automation that makes it fun for you. Because you will lose out on a lot of playability if you're just getting frustrated
hehe love it when smaller channels pop up in my feed, always feels alot more genuine! also great tutorial im definitely someone he hasn't really dived in manual targeting so this is pretty helpful for me! thank you!
I quite like the 3.15 min rule. you basically mark the target at start location. wait 3 mins and 15 sec and mark it at the end. the distance in meters/100 is the speed so 700m = 7knots and you also get a pretty good heading estimate from that too. maybe do it 3 times to get a better read, but this means you can travel along with the target marking points as you go and don't have to be 90 deg to target. still need to ID it to get the range though.
That's a good one. On a related note, I forgot to mention that a 30 knot torpedo travels about one kilometer per minute. Useful for timing multiple hits.
@@dukas54 Well uboat seems to use a number of annoying distance measures at once (what the hell is a chain?) so maybe measure with the ruler tool as i think that's in meters. and you can switch measurement systems in the games config screen. If you don't want that then maybe use google to search for a relevant converter eg 0.5nm is 926m
@@dukas54 Sorry if i'm spamming not sure if my reply made it or not. Basucally it works for me but i've got my game settings to mixed km/knots so in that mode i can use the ruler tool to measure in meters. the default chain doesn't mean much to me but you can google a converter to find nm to m (1nm is 1852m)
I don't even know what the game looks like without meters. If it gives you yards instead, you could calculate a similar trick, especially since 1 nautical mile is almost exactly 2000 yards
@@fiftyfour5454 exactly 😅 Btw g you're interested there's an old video by Don de Courcelle, in silent hunter 5 about how to synchronize torpedo attacks so that they all detonate at the same time when attacking multiple targets. It's silent hunter 5 but the principle should transfer to uboat.
Wow, great explanation, calm and meaningful. And all that from a new, growing channel. I didn't realize you have such small amount of subscribers, sir. In this case please have a comment for the sake of the algorithm. I hope more people will find you in their feed, as I just did. It's not often that I watch a 30 minute long video with a full interest for the whole duration of it. Very nice job.
I followed every step the first time after watching this video, was feeling very confident until the torpedo flew in the opposite direction of the freighter. I had a save just before intercepting so i could practice. A few times doing this i realized that if you had an officer doing the TDC instead of yourself then you had to push the little button to relay the information to him so he could input it 😅 i felt so stupid. I ended up sinking 18000 tons that patrol after i figured it out lol
Nice video! I was getting frustrated watching other u-boat tutorials to find that they tend to either gloss over the details or basically cheat and calculate everything using the map tools. Good work keeping it comprehensible while also getting into some of the theory and math.
My favorite move because drawing the trajectory from stadimeter measurements at a safe distance incurs significant error and is highly dependent on navigation accuracy, so estimating angle on bow is accurately is hence difficult, I like to first measure speed as a conserved quantity and then put my boat down offset from the target's future position. Tracking the target with the periscope, once the angle on bow is exactly 90°, symmetric parts on the target align, so I swiftly set the angle on bow to 90° and measure the distance with the stadimeter, and los! Worked like a charm the first time. No need for the map.
This is very well done, a nice tight explanatory compilation of the targeting systems and methods in Uboat.... ...which illustrated my absolute, desolate stupidity when it comes to anything mathematical. I slept through math class (except when the teacher hit me with a piece of chalk thrown like a major league relief pitcher), was nearly catatonic in geometry and trig, comatose in arrays, and a drooling vegetable in calculus. So, for me, Uboat shall always be played in the Entertaining mode. Because I prefer to stay awake and conscious while playing a game. But, thanks for doing this excellent video. It helped me realize that I really don't know what I don't know. 😋
Nice. But this is what I've been trying to explain to the Silent Hunter types since the beginning; UBOAT is for more people than just the hardcore sim audience, because it can be played in many different ways.
If you want an accurate AoB using the map tools, I find the bearing tool to be the best. With the bearing tool selected, first click on the target, then click on your uboat. If the AoB is right, it directly gives the correct value. If the AoB is left, just subtract the value from 360.
That's a good point; clicking on a vessel displays its relative bearings. But again, that is only if you have contacts visualization on and are willing to use information you shouldn't have.
There is also apparently an up to 20% error factored into the game given the variety of differences within each class. Sweet video- appreciate the additional options!
I believe fixed wire method was not being used because it was not reliable in choppy seas. In the game, the periscope and UZO is stabilized unlike the real life. So measuring with this method was unreliable. There is a mod in workshop that makes the periscope and UZO welded to boat. So if you want more immersion you can try this mod but it is not savegame compatible. Other than that, I recently found your channel and really enjoyed your videos. Keep it up man you make original content unlike others.
Yep. One source out there says the fixed wire was useful as a double check in certain circumstances, but not as the primary method for determining speed. Also, thanks.
I am terrible at this game but somehow still enjoy it haha. No matter if I let AI control the targeting or if I very carefully use manual solutions…. I still always miss just ahead or just behind moving enemy ships. I can sink them when they are sitting still in the harbor though! lol
I wish there would be a decimal point in the distances on the map bearing tool when using knots and nm. A km is already smaller then a nm, but then you need to work in whole numbers, this kills all accuracy when trying to work out a ship's speed and bearing.
i keep missing but i dont know why my, angle is perfect i use the range with the markers bc in waves i get different results and the speed should be also right but every shot is too short and i have no idea what im doimg wrong
Either plotting and timing their movement on the map or looking more into the historical methods based on bearing change and trigonometry (again, tvre.org is your friend)
if you have the course it easy to work out speed and AoB with a little simple math and then you set up your attack preferably crossing the T ahead of the ship and plot your firing solution
Nice video about historic versions and methods but it hets a little confusing as you explain the current gameplay with mods(quite usefull but break the saves on patches). A shorter Guide on how to Manual TDC on Vanilla would be great.
I think something is off with my game settings because when I try to measure in the velocity my periscope stays locked on so I can't actually measure the speed
You are "locked" onto the ship. Once you start your timer it seems like your periscope holds still and allows the enemy ship to pass through. When I lock onto the ship, place my vertical line to the front of the ship and hit the stopwatch, my periscope just tracks the front of the ship and doesn't stay still to allow the ship to pass through the line. How did you get the ship to pass through the line while you are "locked" to the ship? I'm doing something wrong with the controls no doubt...
You might be using the stopwatch tool in the top right; Clicking on the button next to "velocity" on the bottom of the screen unlocks the periscope and pulls out the stopwatch that is specifically for the fixed wire method. It also does the math for you. It's also possible that you're looking at a stationary ship, or that you've encountered a bug I haven't seen.
@@fiftyfour5454 yeah unfortunately I had to restart my campaign and I set the stabilization setting to "enabled" instead of "partial stabilization" and I no longer have the issue.
I bought the game. Ive not played it since 2020. I love Silent Hunter 5 I thought it would be like silent hunter. Its nothing like silent hunter. If I want to do maths, I'll go to work.
This ain't 100% realism, 100% includes no scope stability and darker night, try getting your information when you cant even see the ship, and no scope stability or lock.
I never claimed it was. The beauty of UBOAT is that it can be played in many different ways and at many different levels of realism. My intent here was to straddle as many of those playstyles as possible, but personally I think I prefer about 70% on the realism scale.
@@justinchamberlain8913 No, I have not, but I could perhaps be convinced to try it with FPP only and everything. But I don't think that will ever be my preferred way to play.
This is so bloody basic. Learn to plot,track, and kill a ship based on passive sonar alone. Anyone who can only kill a ship at 90 degree angles, knows next to nothing.
I admire the hardcore commitment to methods that are decades ahead, but this video is, as you put it, aimed at people who know next to nothing. People who would get interested in this stuff if they were only given a helping hand.
Fucking youtube, i search for "simple uboat torpedo tutorial" and I get this. I'm gonna watch it, for sure, later. Damn though this search engine is falling apart. (nothing to do with you, enjoy the like.)
