Torque Converter Install and Setback Clearance - THE SKID FACTORY - [Quick Tech]

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Today on The Skid Factory, Al Shows you how to correctly install a Torque Converter into your Transmission and how to measure your Converter "Setback Clearance"
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@cammo275 4 года назад

still waiting to you blokes take a trip to NZ and momentarily change the channel name to the "THE SKUD FUCKTERY" lmfao

@andrewswinton2059 4 года назад

They did already....?

@yowie0889 4 года назад

"Thus valve cover uz risplundint un wrunkle rid! Sweet as bro! Luts hev an L&P"

@HotForgeChaos 4 года назад

They were here last month you chuch

@cammo275 4 года назад

@@HotForgeChaos but was the name changed to the skud fuckery lol

@jimclarke1108 4 года назад

The torque converter will talk to you very quick if its not installed properly))

@802Garage 4 года назад

Thank you so much for actually explaining the three clunks. Nobody ever does! I rarely work with autos, but still wanted to know.

@andershaugen5463 4 года назад

Al was extremely close on his Norwegian pronounciation 👍

@dubCanuck1 4 года назад

"If you don't know what's inside a torque converter, just install it incorrectly and you will find out within a month" 😂

@ClickClickDirt 3 года назад

Hahaha

@madgreek253 4 года назад

Why do I get the feeling Al wanted to say "Dont be a dumbshit, have a professional fix your car" at the end.

@PaulGerstenberger 4 года назад

This is extremely timely. I just destroyed a Ford AOD transmission a couple weeks ago when I mated it with a 351W that had a flexplate for a E4OD. I assumed they were the same. I assumed wrong.

@MrZX1206 4 года назад

This comment scares me a little. I needed a different flexplate for my 347/4R70 because the balance was different. The flexplate didn't specify what it was for, only the teeth and balance. I guess I'll have to measure it so can sleep.

@PaulGerstenberger 4 года назад

@@MrZX1206 AOD to 4R70W should be ok. I think. I'm replacing my busted AOD with one next week.

@gemini3558 4 года назад

Paul Gerstenberger , never ass/u/me as it will make ass out of you and me !!!😜👍🇦🇺

@crezychameau 4 года назад

Shit, that's too bad the video didn't come earlier to warn you :( I don't know a lot about auto transmission, is it salvageable ?

@PaulGerstenberger 4 года назад

@@crezychameau It could probably be rebuilt, but all I wanted was one more road trip this winter. That transmission wouldn't have been good for my long-term power goals anyway, so I am replacing it with a newer and stronger unit sooner than I had planned.

@VicReinz52 3 года назад

In had to pull the transmission away from the torque converter when pulling it off the car because the motor was seized. What did I break or have to do different when reassembling?

@chuchoelroto1318 Год назад

I should have watched this vidoe before I attached my motor to the transmission. I didn't ever take the torque converter out of my trani, but I didn't check to see if it was set in correctly.

@MatteoPascolini 4 года назад

351 Cleveland Aficionado, Not a Ford Wrecker

@17jds303 4 года назад

Didn’t even need the lights off to get it all the way in

@TheRealMrCods 4 года назад

Above my pay grade 🤣🤣🤣

@mrstfu 4 года назад

I hope you enjoyed the Kvikk Lunsj guys, it's more or less Norways pride and glory in chocolate snacks. Oh and come to Gatebil in july next year, I'll be your guide whenever I can stand upright

@hughmoore810 4 года назад

The Skid Factor Perhaps you should have a look at the pages of that colouring book from Rudi. Duckman of VW You Tube fame got one from a supporter & it certainly was not for "G" classification.

@LaTeamPrep 13 дней назад

Swapped a 722.616 bell housing to a 722.649 transmission for obviously more torque at the wheels, but the 980 Nm torque converter do not fit into the 722.616 bell housing! The Stock 722.616 torque converter is only rated for 330nm. With that said, I know the rated torques are not only the job of the torque converter, but also planetary gears etc. My question, is there a 722.616 TC match to the 722.649 one! Hope this is not confusing, thanks in advance!

@mooosestang 3 месяца назад

So you unbolt it from the flex plate through the inspection cover before removing the transmission? Is it possible to clock the torque converter 180 degrees with the transmission still in the car in the same manner?

@twistedtuned4273 2 года назад

can you take it out with the engine, for example the engine is seized and you have to???

@Blackadar56 2 года назад

Thanks for the helpful information. I was looking for the cause of flex plate bolts rubbing on the engine spacer plate and inspection cover. Turns out we missed one detail when connecting the flex plate to the torque converter. Make sure the torque converter drain plugs are lined up with the holes flex plate on BOTH sides!

@petelattimer6808 4 года назад

the rare times ive seen an Auto in the UK and the gearbox has been removed (all factory units, i admit) ive never seen anyone take the torque converter off the flywheel/flexplate. its not correct but ive never seen anyone do it that way, and never seen anyone having issues either. personally i stick with Manual transmissions. far more reliable and easier/cheaper to repair if something DOES fail, especially with all the electronics involved in modern Autos.

@randy1ization Год назад

we installed the 4l60e onto the chevy 4.3 with convertor in place.. with convertor pushed all the way back inside the bellhousing we have around 5/16 th of an inch space between the flywheel and torque convertor. Im going to pry the convertor from against the back of the bellhousing , towards the flex plate until it touches, then take a measurement. how much clearance should I have.. right now I think its way too much. also should I shim behind or in front of the torque convertor to flywheel bolts ? thanks.

@mauriceupton1474 20 часов назад

Torque converters need to be mated in automatic transmissions properly. There are 3 distinct placements positions as they interconnect. You must feel them go past each one, or it will destroy the mating pump connection when you start the engine.

@garatt3430 3 года назад

Thanks for this tech mate,very timely,I would have just bolted the C4 up,but thats because of my inexperience with auto’s full stop,anyway,just measured up at 4.27mm so learnt something new,thanks again

@helplmchoking 4 года назад

I love these videos, I either learn how to do something properly and not balls it up, or I learn it's definitely outside my skill range and not worth learning as I go. Either way, super valuable! There's a reason you guys are my favourite channel on this site!

@cme2cau 4 года назад

"We've got the clearance, Clarence." "Roger, Roger, what's the vector, Victor?"

@nomadmike2677 4 года назад

This was a timely video for me.. I am currently pulling a Turbo 350 out of my 84 El Camino for rebuild... So I will be checking to see if the setback may be the problem as something has come apart inside

@nomadmike2677 4 года назад

As it turns out I have about 5 mm... I don't know if that's too much or not. I wish I could post pictures, I know how you Aussies love a good ute... Well it's a bit of a nugget but still... lol

@Turbochargedtwelve 4 года назад

If it’s an aftermarket converter the manufacturer should be able to give you the acceptable range. If it’s factory a service manual should have the spec.

@randy1ization Год назад

with older transmissions being rebuilt 3 to 5 times, in thier life, distances likely change ALOT., especially with shitty out of spec chinese parts.

@kanz2844 3 года назад

HELP ME PLEASE , I HAVE TH200 IN MY CAPRICE V6229 , AND HE BREAKE MY ENGINE STARTER ..... SO MANY TIMES ,...... THE TORQUE CONVERTER HAVE A RARE AXIAL MOVEMENT WHEN HE IS PUT INSIDE OF TH200 .... IS THIS NORMAL ??? HOW Y CAN REPAIR IT ( SORRY MY BAD ENGLISH I DONT SEPEAK ENGLISH )

@Randomgearhead 4 года назад

I've installed one a 727 and litterly used a 50lb plastic mallet swinging it as hard as I can. Worked fine afterwards

@peterbrady2165 11 месяцев назад

Isnt that a C10 transmission. If you have a clearance problem the convertor builder is at fault or was given the wrong information or the flex plate is wrong.

@TedGabrielWilliamsREV 2 месяца назад

Do you have a video of reinstalling this transmission? We have our torque converter completely installed, have the transmission on the transmission jack and the transmission in place but when we start to pull the transmission to the motor with the bell housing bolts it now seems like the torque converter is set back too far and it bolts aren't coming through the flywheel. What do you recommend?

@dieselauthoritymillertime1276 Год назад

Awesomeness if you actually use your brain a bit 😂😂😂 I’m now subscribed love your vid mang

@Mosesk1988 4 года назад

Whats the go with towing auto cars? Some people say you should disconnect the tailshaft with towing. I have flat towed mine in Neutral when i blew a tranny line, also when a person fell asleep at the feel that crashed into me it was also towed away in Neutral behind a tow truck would of gone over 100kms an hr because it was on a main hwy. Just curious, i have never had a problem with my gearbox and its a 4l60e. Love ya work boys

@jaydunbar7538 4 года назад

It depends on the vehicle, newer vehicles the pump in the transmission is mechanical so it's circulating while moving regardless if the vehicle is on or not. Older vehicles this was not the case so the transmission would be running at full speed with no coolant/lubrication movement. This was standardized around 2002 in the US if I recall correctly.

@eduardosuarez5617 5 месяцев назад

What’s the best way to shim torque converter when the gap is too big, mine has 1/2 inch gap between the flex plate and torque

@pacora07 Год назад

I do not get it. if you remove the transmission and then the torque converter(let say we are doing a rebuilt)after putting the transmission and the torque converter back again, would you not have the same clearance you had before it not that you changed the flex plate or something else. I am not sure about those transmission you guys are working on. I have a 4l60E. and to me it is a very straight forward procedure. remove the tranny, remove the converter, work on your rebuilt and install the tranny with the converter back in the engine. how can you lose clearance there.

@billyleath4992 2 года назад

I have a bother inlaw putting the motor in a 2007 Mustang V6 and I've trying to tell him that he can't just bolt the torque converter to the engine and put it in all at once, he's trying to tell me that the only way to get it in ! I was just wondering if I could anyway be wrong😅

@classicstangbrn8964 4 месяца назад

Never heard of ever having to do that, but I did encounter one with so much clearance the torque converter studs didn't go through the flexplate even with the transmission bolted up tight.

@burntxtoastt 2 года назад

Is the 3 clicks with all transmissions?? I’m doing a mk4 Jetta rn. And I only have 2 clicks

@TheRandog100 5 месяцев назад

If everything in my 4l65e is stock then why would I need to shim the bolts?

@kreggkittredge253 4 года назад

Torque converter drain plug ....the old shit did it differently

@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 3 года назад

Never saw a gm with converter drain plug but ford and mopar, yes.

@shawnwines7490 17 дней назад

If you are replacing the torque converter I don't see why u can't remove the transmission with the tc still on the engine then put new tc on transmission when remounting

@jeffcharest2118 3 года назад

yup,good movie.much better than tommy ! the three clicks answers my quest.

@MaryWalters-z5x 6 месяцев назад

Wasn't that flexplate on backwards? I was always taught the tabs are on outside.

@BS-km9oe 4 года назад

Will you need to shim the starter out as well so that in engages with the flywheel the same as before?

@ClementJim-t5u 3 месяца назад

What could cause the torque converter rub against the pump wall

@beastoftheeast2146 4 года назад

I've installed a couple of them on subaru 4eat transmissions

@Fluzz574 4 года назад

be excellent to each other!

@thenewnormal8853 4 года назад

Party on dude

@ChevTheMechanic 4 года назад

Was there any issues, distance-wise, with the starter engagement?

@RedneckMechanics 4 года назад

Somehow they didnt teach that to me in school, thanks for that tech tip.

@BenitoGutierrez-rb5ge 2 месяца назад

Thanks. For. Video very helpfu

@hampusjohansson5630 4 года назад

Nice unboxing in the end, realy fun to se you guys open fan mail :0

@tenyakoveli7367 Год назад

Talk too much, makes confusing people.

@jameshanks8608 5 месяцев назад

Would having the converter pulled out too far cause it to not shift out of 1st gear?

@CharleyGeorge 4 года назад

I love how Al geeks out on stuff.

@georgealmeida7382 2 года назад

You just pulled it off so everything was lined up 😂

@randy1ization Год назад

Seems like u could just shim behind the converter?

@hackjobgarage9289 2 года назад

What about a converter with anti-baloon plate? spacing still 1\8 - 3\16?

@millertime610 2 года назад

Hello! Amazing video! Question: I have a BB Mopar 440 bolting up to a 727. My converter pilot is now bottoming out in the crank 1/16 short of the flexplate. Is it ok for it to bottom out in the crank or does it need play? Trying to figure out how many spacers I need…. Cheers!

@JohnAtsu-hz5vz Год назад

After feesing conventer when I fix the state when you start their noses in the car

@bobbybenning6525 Год назад

So the flexplate was no good not the torque converter?

@kelli217 4 года назад

It looked like this was shot at a high frame rate, but the settings panel didn't say anything about 1080p50 or p60. Weird.

@fordtough4850 4 года назад

I Put a converter in a 95 Chevy 4l60e and it went in three clicks and the clearance looks spot on but it’s a little shaky and won’t come back off any ideas?

@pkuudsk9927 4 года назад

You missed 1 important step .The fitment of the snout to crank.I am not saying you didn't check it, just forgot to mention the importance of it and how it can ruin your day if you don't. I can see it in your eyes how much grief this has been fixing this one so it's understandable . Some jobs you just can't get rid of fast enough when they turn south as soon as you start them . You give someone a quote to fix and miss by a mile when you fall into a job like this.

@watsisbuttndo829 4 года назад

Gotta say its been maaaaaaany sleeps since i did any cleveland/C4 wrangling but that flexplate looks unfamiliar. The step in the outer circumference where the converter bolts up looks a lot deeper than i remember. As you mentioned, havent been supplied the wrong plate have you?

@joshuafelder2701 2 года назад

Watching this and discovering that I didn't know how to install the torque converter I finished installing 10 minutes ago that then started screaming at me 9 and a half minutes ago. Fun stuff.

@bigunone 4 года назад

Separater plate locates the starter do not try to run an older Ford without it! Ask me how I know!!! Lets just say it's a hell of a lot harder to pull and replace the transmission when your flat on your back in the middle of the night trying to get ready for a race in the morning, because while exhausted from working a 12 hour shift you figured you didn't need it! Woody gets a white shirt because he never gets greasy.

@izzyboss6875 4 года назад

1:10 ...... G’day gecko 🦎

@PrescribedFire 2 года назад

What about checking side play on the converter drive hub and input shaft? Is the fitment of the input shaft and converter as critical as setback?

@lsgemini7686 4 года назад

You must do this while wearing a Hughes cap! 🤙🏼

@someyoungguy6990 4 года назад

So what Al is saying is fitting a Torque Converter is no Captain snap ring if you use ya brain but checking your setback can be!And you know you are at the top of your game when you can look at a printed t-shirt and call it out by name.

@edgardodejesus7200 2 года назад

You can’t go wrong by measuring put it back the torque converter,it is great idea.Thank you soo much Great video👍👍

@professorginz2379 2 года назад

Thank you, Thank you,Thank you,! I ruined my pump and torque converter, and installing the new ones I am experiencing the same lack of clearance. My flex plate has a spacer, so now I know that I need to remove it. There are plenty of transmission videos on RU-vid, but you are the only one to thoroughly explain this.

@jubthreesixnine688 4 года назад

Moist

@mikeymasi 4 года назад

Wood: "I don't have kids, whaddyatalkinbeet" Al: "not that you know of" 😂😂👊

@alexcorona 4 года назад

whale oil beef hooked I once said this during a courtroom jury selection and everyone busted out laughing. It also got me dismissed 😂

@donnylarocque5620 2 месяца назад

What happens if it don’t sit in the crank

@johnswimcat 2 года назад

Superb video. We are changing the auto box on a Vito and this should be very helpful

@coreyelliot8509 4 года назад

And. If you have pulled the pump apart make sure the pump inner gear goes in the same way it come out on the c4 there’s a chamfer on one face of the gear

@FreedomGinger Год назад

Very helpful. I seen 3 things I did I wasn't supposed to do.

@fitzyholden1036 4 года назад

Not had that problem with too little clearance before, but good to know that fix. Reken I might even remember that trick many years and lemon squashes from now. Thanks Al.

@patricklions9066 3 года назад

Hot dam, someone who knows some shit and can explain it efficiently, outstanding

@abdulhassan1107 3 года назад

Exactly what I was searching for!! I'm putting together a roller block 302 and a C4 but the flexplates sold today are .030" thicker than original stock, and therefore, need to check the sitback. Thanks a lot for the video, mate.

@NOMORE-ss9qx 4 года назад

Hope you sort those teeth Alan, sounds like you're hurting? :/

@jtp682 Год назад

Good morning. I am installing a TH350 and have some experience with installing transmissions. I have a question.... Since the torque converter sags ever so slightly from its own weight when resting in the transmission, prior to bolting to the flexplate,, should you lift it up ever so slightly (take the weight off) as you tighten the first torque converter to flexplate bolt? Or just pull it forward and bolt up without lifting on it?

@theskidfactory Год назад

There is a spigot in the crankshaft that supports the converter at the engine end.