Torture Testing Cheap vs Expensive Dremel Tools 

You guys done welders yet?

Microwave

Angle Grinders.

Car jacks!!

Torque wrench

You and me both actually

I was searching for a ball cutter

That name avatar combo lol

You should put you profile picture as a Chevrolet logo.

Always brush with polishing compound

She's right but there may be more to it than that. The randomized scratch pattern will bounce light in more directions. Which we perceive as sparkle. Why we like sparkle is interesting too. Sparkle imitates what clean water looks like in bright sunshine. So it triggers instincts in us.

Smarrrt

@@1pcfred Random Information I'm going to remember

tell your girl that she has a really cool job

Hot wheels monster truck drag race has to be the best tool test I have ever seen. My harbor freight tool has been dragged off the table by my dogs at least 50 times. Still kickin.

Pick up where he left off... finish what he started and you will always have that Bond.

finish the clock man, ill help u i got a little experience

yo grandfather was a tweaker

Gee wait, taking care of machinery extends its life? Wow (Not sarcasm towards you, but to those who cry about their tools breaking in a year or two when they've never done any maintenance on them at all)

A dremel from 30 yrs ago is not the quality of the current ones.

@@FirstLast-bi8xi true...

@@jackryan4313 LOL! I understood exactly what you meant. It's sad, but true.

@@FirstLast-bi8xi Yep, I also have a 30+ year old Dremel that’s going strong, but sadly I would not expect a new one to be the same.

I was thinking the same.

I have the Chicago Electric "rotary tool" replaced a very old Dremel. While the new Dremels are surely nicer, it is nicer, more powerful, and heats up less then my old Dremel did. I've had it about 2 years, but I remember when I got it being very impressed and thinking... "even if I have to replace it every year, there's no way the Dremel is worth the price difference"

That's what I'd like to see if it's possible. I bought a Chicago Electric rotary tool a few years ago. I use it very infrequently and it's starting to die.

Yeah me too

I was hoping for this as well.

With a rotary tool I'd argue the accessories matter much more than the tool itself.

@@fatpad00 kind of, but the issue is with the tool and it's compatibility with the accessories, or vice versa - if the most common/best accessories fit the tool. There are some cheap brands that use some proprietary standards or attachment methods that vastly limit their compatibility. That's a part of the quality of the tool and the hassle of use, which includes finding the bits, needing to order them from China or whatever, instead of getting the off the shelf or a quick shipping. That being said, in terms of a rotary yes, the accessories matter a lot, but if they're interchangeable, then the quality of the tool matters a lot - the ability to control the speed of the tool, how comfortable it is to use (i.e. ergonomics), the durability of the motor, the specs of it etc. Basically the things that you can't change but will impact your use of the tool. BUT, it's also worth pointing out, that in terms of a rotary, it's very important to remember, HOW TO USE the tool, that it's not a torque tool, but a speed tool. I've seen many people complain about them getting stuck or slowing down or overheating due to pushing hard to do the job faster, instead of using it as intended.

My philosophy has always been, if I want a tool, buy the cheapest one possible, abuse it till it breaks, then buy a replacement, now armed with basically all the information in your list. Usecase, ergonomics, etc. Once you know what you dislike about a cheap one, you can shop for a mid or high end to suit your needs

@@jakezanders6598 That's not a bad idea, but I'm a person that uses hates buying something sub-par, that hates wasting money, so I spend hours or days researching, spending time rather than money.

@@rubbers3 makes sense. In a professional setting, I value my time way more than a few cheap tools. And I suppose I'm really only thinking of sub $200 tools anyways. I wouldn't do that with a table saw or something like that

Personalize ads 🙂 I don't mind watching them I don't fast forward these.

I still dont watch them, other than sams!

I never fast forward Donuts ads. They make them unique and entertaining. Way more likely to buy from their ads and they r memorable

I find the best adds are the ones you don’t even notice, Nitto tires has been sponsoring RU-vidrs for ever but have never made them do a real ad for their company if my memory is correct. They understand that by exposing a large audience to their product, and it’s a good enough product, they’ll sell units. Tires can be the most expensive thing most people will ever buy for their vehicle especially if you buy Nittos. Coopers used to be the only tire I’d trust on my ride but since they got sold to Goodyear I had to look at other options.

@@slycarlo8747 what about circular saw??

Amazon fell directly on the chuck for sure

It's better to use something like an impactor, like a weight on a pendulum that way you know all of the tools are getting hit the same way with the same force. When you drop them you can't control HOW the tool will fall even if you drop them from a jig or something.

Yeah I noticed that too. They definitely need a more consistent test for the impact durability section. It's kind of pointless if they just land willy nilly. I bet if the harbour freight landed chuck side first it would be just as broken as the others.

Yes. Control the variables and get valid comparisons that may indicate a high probability of a consistent repeated outcome or expectation that can be logically derived from the testing observations.

As much as I agree with you about the variability of the drop test, well actually all of the tests, I still think it got one point across. No matter what brand you get an unfortunate drop will damage it. Just because you payed 6 times as much for the Dremel it doesn't mean it will take the abuse shown in the video and not be damaged. Yes they could have made a more scientifically relevant test to show exactly how much force it takes to damage the tool, but in the end it's more that you should try to not drop it from a ladder in the first case. Measuring the power draw would have been interesting as it would show if the ratings on the box were actually true. Then compare the thermals as what's not going into making the spindle turn is going to generate heat. The less heat the more mechanical power. Still this is once again something that's hard to measure reliable as a efficient fan can blow a lot of that heat out of the tool body. Finally put them in a jig with a constant friction to see what it takes to stall them and end it with a burnout test where they are left to run under load until they fail. My expectation would be that the Dremel should last the longest, simply because at that price the materials used should be better. However I'm in no way sure about that. A friend of mine worked sorting warranty claims for Bosch and Dremel tools a few years back. I think it was just after Bosch bought Dremel. And I remember him talking about the quality of Dremel tools in words that were not to flattering. I do remember him talking about a jeweler who complained about the runout of the chuck on a Dremel they'd bought. He measured it and had a chat with his contact at Dremel who just said that sure there were some runout, but these were cutting and polishing tools, not precision tools. If they wanted a power tool with a lot better tolerances then they would have pony up a lot more money and buy some other brand. I've used both Dremel and other rotary machines, and in general the Dremel machines feel better, both as in the materials used, the molding used and in the ergonomic design. However one machine from Black & Decker was actually better in the hand and more "agile" to work with. However it had pronounced runout making it eat cutoff disks and drill bits. Now what really makes a big difference is the tools used. And here I think Dremel has pretty good quality. They also have an incredible width of tools, but unfortunately they do tend to be very expensive. The cheap brands tends to sucketh badly when it comes to tool quality. Cheap cutoff discs are my pet pewee. The cheap stuff just tends to dissolve when the disc meats the metal. I've had cutoff disks that seemed to simply melt. I remember a cut that ate four of the cheap ones, not because they exploded but because they simply wasn't tough enough. At the same time a Dremel brand cutoff disk did a copy of that cut in one go with a good deal left after the cut was finished. Now there's something I would like to see tested. What brand of cutoff disks for these rotary tools last the longest, cuts the fastest, and at what cost?

What in an application this size would be better than a ball bearing? Roller bearing?

YEEEEESS! Car jack country is full of surprises! I had a mid-range priced jack a couple years ago, and it started drooping and leaking oil wayyy too early (after being used like 3-4 times, well within ranges of intended use)

I would probably look more at typical floor jacks. Scissor jacks should really only be used in emergency situations, or to provide some clearance to get a floor jack underneath if the car is too low

A showdown between jacks? One might even call it, a good ol Jack Off!

@@spazmaticaa7989 Yep, I've had about 5 scissor jacks fail on me in my lifetime. Thankfully only while lowering or raising the vehicle to place actual jack stands. It's still a bit scary though, and is the reason people say to never work under your car with just a scissor jack.

Yes do this. Comparing jacks would be useful

We bought ours I believe over 8yrs ago and still going strong. Lots of support and high quality parts on top of great warranty. Use the tool adequately for what it’s fcking designed to be used for and you’ll see years of usage. Sad to say, but too many people use tools for the wrong applications and then complain when it fails🤦‍♂️

Did try to get a rotor for mine, was been priced over 80% of the MSRP. Bought cheap tool after dremel, worked actually longer then a dremel does.

I dropped my battery powered dremel in the water bucket I keep below my belt grinder (so it is full of steel particles). I wouldn't turn on after that. So I just took it apart, cleaned everything out with qtips and rubbing alcohol, and it went back to working like it did before.

nice pfp

I mean the cheaper one too, but i only needed to remplace the brush over 6 years, and i use it a lot lot, and also drop it a lot lmao

also worth mentioning durability, i think it will outlast the others

@@rogerivy2919 Yep, that's another good point👍 I can definitely say that the original Dremel tool that I now own already lasts longer than the non-dremel one that I owned before.

also if something has literally become the name of the item itself like dremel or xerox, it was likely for good reason

I got a dremel for 45$, definitely worth it

Yeah I think there needs to be a more consistent test for that category. The Harbour freight landed flat on the side where as the others landed bit side first and took them out.

Also the heavier ones take a bigher hit

It was obvious the Harbour freight one landed on its bit and the real Dremel one landed exactly on its side…. Not a controlled variable at all…. So not scientifically valid…. Fun and hey…’MURICA I guess…. Low standards…. Sad.

I have the Dremel 395 @ 35,000 RPMs. It’s a beast!

Thought the same thing so I watched the drops in .25x speed. The 2 that broke landed head first. Harbor Freight landed on the side. I know these tests were more for humor than anything but I'd hate to see someone use these results as a way to determine which one to actually purchase. My Dremel works good as new and it's over 20 years old.

I use mine every chance I get, I just love it

I bought one years ago to do my dogs nails, and I use it for so much more shit than I thought.

this is another US product not keeping stuff in house. China is coming.

It’s still 9.99. Only 20$ in commifornia

@@mikestoms4015 Shouldn't it be free there?

Probably because he's not rebuilding power steering racks ha

Does he have something going on? Hope he is okay if he does

Except for the new B2B isn’t as good as the old

Dremel accessories are over priced. The cheap tools fail in crucial points like switches, collet slips, speed controller. And most likely in the worst possible time.Like most tools If you use one everyday get a branded one. If you use it once a month get a cheap one … maybe.

@@TheLexiconDevils my policy is first buy of a tool, get the cheap one. If it breaks, then investing in the more expensive one is worth it. If it doesnt, well then you saved a bit of cash.

Had m6 dremels for 15 plus years and still Goin like new. Buy once cry once.

If it weren't for safety glasses, I would have lost an eye to a broken Chicago electric brand rotary bit... So I can agree lol though I wouldn't go lower than midrange for any tool you want to use frequently.

Hyper Tough is Test Rite brand. It's good stuff for excellent prices

They finally invented wireless power.oh wait Tesla already did dat

@@cognizancecognizance8815 this is the most braindead comment i’ve seen this year

@@cognizancecognizance8815 even if you’re trying to do Sarcasm = failed. Funny = failed. Clever = failed. Troll = failed. Cordless tools have been around since before I was able to use them. And that’s longer than Tesla’s have been around. Shoot Elon was still working for PayPal and cordless tools were already being used. They weren’t very good and used nickel cadmium batteries I belibe but they were still there.

@@ardz. They aren’t truly incorrect. Nikola Tesla did invent a form of wireless electrical connection with the tesla coil however long ago, it’s just really inefficient. The comment is probably about elon but there’s still a chance it’s not.

Hell no. The batteries on those are garbage. I've had 4 go bad in 2 years. I threw my dremel away and bought a Dewalt version. Those batteries last.

Yep, it's a dead ringer in appearance and performance to my 20 year old Dremel. IMO, it was the winner of this contest.

I've not seen anyone do ads better than Donut purely for the fact some of them are hilarious.

ya man their ads are so fun

donut is the only channel that I won't skip the ads

And they have a countdown

Except for the RAID ad. I hate RAID.

Can 2nd this. My uncle was telling me a story once about how cheaper brands, he starts feeling a vibration (like something wiggling loose kind).

_most of my tool choices come down to how the tool feels_ - Even more importantly, how long it will last before you have to replace it! The issue of quality fade has gotten so infuriating that it seem as though merely expecting a product you bought to just work is too much to ask nowadays.

The harbor freight hit on the side, and the Dremel hit on the chuck. So, just don't drop it on the chuck, I guess

Is your concrete reason a concrete floor?

I am disappointed there was no actual torture test.

@@fasfgasdfagadsf the part where they hold the tools’ families hostage is on the donut underground

@@fasfgasdfagadsf I mean, I don't think it would be possible to drown these tools like a drill, a drill is much more durable because they're meant to drown to do underwater jobs, not much of a reason to Dremel underwater. And if there's water near your workstation, thats a problem

check out the tourque test channel

Torque test channel

Heres your sticker

They did one like 3 month ago

@@DrBonesFolo That was a 3/8 drive impact test, I want to see a 1/2 drive impact test.

PLOT TWIST you are not in the USA or Canada. Always wished such a store exists where I am stuck at...

@@ruikazane5123 damn, im sorry they aren't located in you're area. You could always try to go to their web site and have things shipped to you or ebay(I know having to wait for shipping sucks) best of luck I hope you can find something similar

@@hatefunwrx That's why I would be moving out of here when it becomes easy...customs here sucks and we suffered eBay orders not getting here for years and even outright nowhere I could have already made good progress on my project if not for the absurd local prices, because ordering them online at the local sites does not give you a chance to test them out before checkout and shipping is tough...

@@ruikazane5123 that's nuts as hell. It should never be like that anywhere, it's just wrong.

Good idea

there's nothing to collab on i'm afraid, Donut Media is irrelevant compared to Project Farm

@@victortitov1740 donut has more than 2x the subs than project farm

Thats because it is a cheap tool with a high price tag on it. useless

I also hate dremel is a forced name for all rotary tool. Dremel is just the crap expensive brand. I've bought chinese rotary tools for $10 that still work whereas the only dremel I purchased barely survived 5 months usage.

@@furyofgungnir yeah but I use a cheap one not the real dreamel because like you say they are over priced for what I’m doing. The tool it self don’t suck and they have a use. The thing is you can’t use it for the wrong job or else it will overheat or break. Like for example if you were to use a dreamel tool to grind down flat bar steel it would not work the best, for that you could use a angle grinder, or something with more power.

I had the exact same problem. My first one lasted for a decade but then the next one lasted 4 days sending black plastic everywhere.

Mines been good for years now. I wonder what you use them for that they melt on you. Mine gets hot sometimes, but I just make sure to give it some air, and not cover the vents when I use it.

Also Dremel attachments are superior to Hobo Freight

@@ryanpaul5604 honestly, everything beats cheap johnny knocksville

My dremel is black & it’s still polishing …

That one is built on the same mold my first dremel came out of

Yeah it looks like a clone of my 30 year old Dremel.

It definitely does.

I have that one and it also sounds EXACTLY like the older Dremel as well

Dremels that I have purchased seen to heat up under a load to the point you need gloves to hold them.

Btw, I subscribed during the starting advertising cause the job the video production crew did was already convincing.

Hyper Tough is the Walmart version of Test Rite brand tools... they are a low cost, medium quality brand that are definitely durable for home projects. It's worth your money. Great products in my opinion

I hate the feel in hand of most hyper tough tools and maybe my use cases are a bit too much for it being as I have to maintain 120 acres of land and 15 dedicated off-road vehicles for playing and maintaining it so every tool I invest in gets heavy use and some abuse. I like a bargain as much as next person but apart from their pry bars at the local Walmart they offer nothing I can rely on. I have a a battery powered dremel I got a few years ago and I’m surprised as much as next person that it still functions today because I don’t treat it well I treat it like a tool so usually gets stored in my shed outdoors in a bucket for weeks or even months at a time.

@@Getfuqqedfedboy I've had the same problem. I've tried using "hyper tough" drills, rotary tools, and others from Walmart. They're not bad if you only do small things around the house but when I've tried them on more demanding projects the shortcomings are very apparent.

Thinking about grabbing the hyper tough cus I'd be using it for more like the vents and body design. Figure it would do the job nicely, specially since polishing seemed fine enough for whatever i'm trying to clean up that someone didn't take care of.

I bought a hypertough 4" grinder and I beat the absolute piss out of the poor thing. The $20 I spent 3 years ago has definitely felt better than the time I $120 and broke it shortly after.

Same I would love a donut 4wd247 ep

Might be tricky to work together, one in USA and one in Australia. Otherwise not a bad idea.

Well even just a guest appearance on beers in the shed or 4WD247 have said they would love to go to America

I have a couple B&D RTX rotary tools and they're pretty capable as far as doing the Dremel thing goes. I got one off a clearance table in a big box store for $10 and another on clearance in Walmart for $15. I have other rotary tools for more demanding tasks so my little rotary tools live easy lives. There's definitely places where they're just the thing to use.

This isn't Project Farm. LOL You can only expect so much from this crew.

@@jrcook927 Project Farm is a great channel, with loads of useful information. I understand where you’re coming from but side by side comparisons shouldn’t be done if not done correctly.

@@thatautogarage3644 I agree whole heartedly. My comment wasn’t aimed at yours as much as it was to sarcastically mock these clowns attempt to do tool comparisons. They’re not in it for the data and results. They’re in it only for views. So I don’t expect anything of substance from them.

@@jrcook927 That I completely understand, I do enjoy watching them for some reason even though the tend to get info wrong across all the different video types. Some they nail though and it's very entertaining.

I saw that too

It was never about the tools. You just watched a 20min ad.

@@pheelix- Wow, you see all, don't ya, pal? The thing is, the narrative should still make sense. The Harbour freight tool won in the end, so it makes even less sense to overlook the mistake at 6:33 But by all means keep going on thinking you're clever. Oh, and you watched a 20 min ad too, you know.

@@andoletube Not sure how the Harbor Freight tool won when the tests weren't even performed correctly. I bet if that Harbor Freight tool landed on the front like the other 2 did, it would not be working as well.

Project Farm did a recent test on torque wrenches. Depends on your application but generally no don’t buy a cheap torque wrench. Buy a mid tier brand or used high end & get it calibrated

Interesting. What qualifies as a mid-tier brand though.