Tory MP defects to Labour, woke civil servants and arms sales to Israel | PoliticsJOE reacts to PMQs 

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This is becoming one of my favourite UK politics podcasts primarily because it has taken enshittification as a roadmap and gone off-road with it. What else should one do when the political landscape is best traversed in a clown car? Keep up the good work folks.

I respect Ava for saying i dont feel qualified to answer that.

NET ZERO TORIES BY 2030!

I liked the bit where Rishi didn't answer any questions.

To answer Oli's fingerprint question - a healthy layer of dermis needs to be removed, but you cannot permanently remove fingerprints. Not least, the trick only works for pre- and post-accident. If you burn them, thereafter, your fingerprint profile just looks odd. In fact, it probably makes you statistically more identifiable as the idea that your fingerprint is unique is a myth - your fingerprint is unique *enough* to be a decent forensic tool, but suffers in the face of other DNA forensic tools. Look up the case of Brandon Mayfield for more on this. Also, to further expand - we don't just have fingerprints - we have the same pads on our feet, as do most primates. They're useful, because the increased surface area caused by folds of skin equal more friction - so great for gripping things, like branches - as well as the fact that our palms are *excellent* heat sensors. Fingerprints also form as a combo of genetics and environmental factors in the womb, we think. Anyway, that's all I've got on fingerprints.

Rishi sunak literally values life differently depending on the ideology and political systems of different peoples. He assumes Palestinian lives are worthless.

MPs defecting from Tory to Labour just shows me how identical they are. How easily they accept each other. They are supposed to be opposites..

If Labour acquire Tory politicians and Tory polices we are just changing the blue rosettes to red and redecorating number 10 again.

Sadly, it's hard to disagree with Olie on the chance Farage could be PM if Starmer doesn't deliver. The warning signs are there. The country's at a fork in the road. As is the planet.

32:43 *AVA SANTINA:* “Probably because that's where you find your fingers-it's on the hand.” I just want to acknowledge how consistently hilarious Ava is in every podcast. Oli asks if there are “any bits of housekeeping” no fewer than three times in four minutes and, as the podcast slowly dribbles to a close, he finally gets around to asking, “Want to finish the record?” 1:07:19 and Ava says, with a quiet sort of resignation, “We could have finished it a while ago but there we are.” Quite true.

St.Peters in Rome has the sizes of other Cathedrals marked on the floor showing it is bigger than all the rest.

Rishi is right, there is no comparison between Hamas and Israel. Israel are demonstrably worse.

Rishi Sunak implying he's a straight talker is the funniest thing he's every said

In the studio where the mics are hot, Three jesters sit, stirring the political pot. Oli, Ava, and Ed, a trio so keen, Dissecting the news with a satirical sheen. Oli Dugmore, with a quip so slick, Cuts through the spin, double-quick. Ava Santina, with insight so bright, Shines a light on the left and the right. And Ed Campbell, with a chuckle so deep, Finds the humour in politics, never cheap. Together they stand, the holy trinity, Of podcasting fame, with no hint of timidity. Likes, dislikes, they've got a few, From absurd policies to a political coup. But one thing's for sure, they love the jest, In a world of chaos, they're simply the best.

Jeremy Corbyn's Labour cared about an economy that worked for people...

It's interesting to see the kind of people Labour are courting and the kind of people Labour are expelling or suppressing...

Labour is a broad church of center and far right politicians

Ed sweetly saying "we've got RU-vid money" made me laugh and made my day, for some reason.

Speaking of Cathedrals, found out the other day several of them in the UK have their own police forces. knowledge.

ah yes sunni and shia, my favourite 60s muslim pop duo

HPV is strongly linked to increased risk of testicular, throat and mouth cancers for unvaccinated men.

Ollie's paint jokes went over everyone's head and it's not okay

WHAT IS THE STARBURST LEGEND!????

If you add the pretty radically right Tories, and the definitely radical right Reform ‘Party’, then there is a huge radical right vote in this country

Prepare for chaos. This is what we live for

St. Peter's Basilica in Rome is the world's largest church. The largest in terms of congregation is in South Korea.

I thankfully never heard the starburst story I am not going to Google it

Steven Flynn - he makes me want to move to Scotland and vote independence every time he askes a question.

This prompted me to look up Oli's old Tab article on the Welsh language. Its a piece that brings the same seriousness, attentiveness, depth of knowledge and astute insights that Oli has brought to Joe's coverage of Welsh politics: that is to say none at all. The irony of a London based person pointing to the 'self gratifying [admiration] of Celtic history' is almost too much to bare. I submit that the current state of the Welsh language, and the discourse around it, has rather more to do with over a hundred years' of English history: with policies set in Westminster designed to bring about the language's demise. I don't doubt that, like Oli, those policy makers believed that the interests of Welsh people would be best served by adopting the English language and culture. After all, what cultural value could 'the senior language of the men of Britain' have compared with language of Shakespeare, or Milton? Its a minor example of an anglo-centric world view that has in no way aged badly. Whether investing resources into the Welsh language is good value, is a point upon which reasonable minds may differ (as it is with any culture funding). Regardless, it seems disingenuous to discuss our response to the fact that Welsh is endangered, without any mention of how that came to be so. It is a shame that Mr Dugmore did not make use of either his time at Cardiff university, or the occasion of writing on this topic to do any reading or thinking on the subject. Of course, when you can vomit out some unnecessarily acerbic nonsense and call it journalism, I suppose knowing things is redundant.

The International Rules Based Order: 'When people we don't like do it, it's bad' 'When people we like do it, it's good'

Physiognomy really is spot-on.

Bless that MP...... calling the BBC left wing or impartial.......😂

Philip Davies is my MP in Shipley, West Yorkshire. He is a despicable individual.

Methinks this is gonna cost a decent amount of progressive votes, if Labour still had any

Ed is using Oli's mic today. When it is used by Ed you cannot see the cable because we see it head on, but Ed is at an angle to us so the cable and plug are visible. I would get out more but..... p94 etc

It must be clarified If someone decides to walk over to the other Political Party in the commons Then that person should automatically be deselected from the Party How than can she/they have a seat in the Commons if not been selected or representing that original area any longer

I’m looking at Alcatraz right now: people, under closely supervised circumstances, swim en masse from Alcatraz every year (several of my friends and coworkers have done it). It would be a horrible and almost invariably fatal thing to do under prison escape conditions, particularly after months of prison meals.

I feel like we're getting to the culmination of Oli Dugmore's anarchist arc. Get that man a copy of the bread book, stat.

when a tory defects to Starmer's party, it tells you that there is no effing difference between the two parties,both Tory.

I don’t know the starburst story 🤷🏽‍♀️

Finding myself at work during awkward silences wanting to say '....should we roll the clip...'

In the Commons where the MPs play, A Tory defector caused quite the fray. Crossed the floor with a step so bold, To Labour's side, from blue to red he strolled. Woke civil servants, oh what a term, In Whitehall's halls, they stand firm. Diversity's their game, inclusion their aim, In the bureaucratic maze, they stake their claim. And then to Israel, where arms deals flow, A topic so grave, it steals the show. But in satire's light, we take a jab, At politics' dance, and the gift of the gab. So PoliticsJOE with a chuckle and a wink, Unpacks the news, faster than you can blink. With a comedic twist on the PMQs, They serve up the satire for all to muse. In a time when 3s are sometimes better than 2s .

Just Googled the Starbust story. Cripes.

Wow nutsack had the nuts to say Isreal was a democratic state, not an apartheid state...

Fingerprints are for HD touch. You can feel textures more precisely.

Fingerprints are there for gripping 😂😂

He's ditched the nutty left and muslim vote and gone full throttle after the middle England Brexiteer vote. The man is playing a very good game of politics.

The bizarre moment is Sunak claiming that private industries are able to export weapons of war without explicit permission from the UK government is giving both false legal advise and dangerous rhetoric as anyone who wishes to provide weapons to any party can now point at the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom as a legitimate argument that they should be allowed as "the UK government doesn't directly provide arms or ship arms .....[to Isreal].... And when it comes to the situation in Rafa. and so on. He hopes we forget about the pictures he take with Zelensky whenever a convenient photo-op arises anytime the UK promises aid to Ukraine, I am not for 1 moment suggesting we should not provide aid to allies but if Ukraine were to use storm shadow missiles to exclusivity target Russian civilians we certainly would not be providing more and more as the conflict proceeded

I used to watch PMQ religiously (no puns about religion), but it's just a show nothing more. I do watch a couple of reviews of PMQ and like yours it breaks down q&a without all the rabble shouting and deranged faces.

Note, Derbyshire (as part of East Midlands) just elected a Labour Mayor and threw out the Tory PCC

My mates finger exploded by being between a swift drag flick and a hockey stick, his fingerprint now looks like a cartoon of an explosion

Had the same sex ed as Olly, we also didn't understand the need for the close up

ive been listening a while but getting more good vibes

This line from Red Dwarf usually comes to mind whenever I watch pmq’s Kryten : That was an important speech, sir, and it needed to be made. Might I suggest, however, that the rest of this discourse is continued by those with brains larger than a grape?

Quick clarification: lsræI is not a democratic state in that Palestinian’s with lsræIi citizenship are de facto second class citizens in lsræI.

Oli was rather emulsional today

Nice work by Ava-Santina (or Ava Santiago as Ed called her on the Podcast!) on GMB this morning; good luck in your application to the Garrick!

Such a refined intro. classy.

Poor Ollie’s excellent paint puns whooshing over Ava & Ed’s heads 😓

Utmost respect for Ava just saying she doesn’t want to comment on foreign affairs when she doesn’t feel she’s qualified to do so 🎉

here for the limmy quote

You can erase fingerprints with pineapple juice and I think it lasts a couple weeks, I think they grow back either way. the other option is permanent scarring. Like a brand.

I would think if Farage did come in he would have to spend quite a bit of time pissing on the skip fire that is the Tory party !!

Hay isn’t NOT IN Wales, Saesneg! It’s in Herefordshire - on the river WYE!

I too remember that video .... tumescent

Ed's hair is looking normal, that won't last long

tune in for 'Overton Window' bingo

What, and Labour just accept them? So sick of all these ppl tbh 😂😂😂 all clowns 🤡 😂

Made the mistake of googling the starburst thing

Arms and compenents via Cyprus. Sunak is gaslighting.

Labour is very welcoming to Tories. Do you get it yet?

Good pisscasting. (Sadly... we're so back). Ed's out of frame in the wide.

Lawd Jeezus Christ... The 3 of you... 🙏

Can someone please explain to me the urban legend about the starburst and the genital warts? I’m curious but don’t want to google it

The woman who gone to labour done a deal.

is pissing on tents a thing in the uk?

love podcast hate nons it's the politics Jo podcast ladies and gentlemen

Has Ollie been working out? Looking hench man.

Is she standing down?

Ed and Ollie are so pink and doughy compared to Ava😄

Sorry what!? Farage shareholder in what now?

I saw that exactly same clip at school of the close up bellend never did the condom banana thing tho

Elphicke is a tricky one. I think the Labour party will have considered it carefully with the optics and concluded that the shock benefit of having a quite right leaning MP defecting and slating the Conservatives outweighs the fuss over her history and voting record. No doubt finally swayed because she is standing down at the next election so won't be in the party for very long. It's not 100% ideal but Labour will take the number and stunning most of the political world is the bigger story.

Only nation got cheap energy bills is France Paris. Awesome.

Farage is 40-1 to become prime minster after Rishi. Boris is at 35-1.......

Morden Mosque is the biggest.

18:45: once again, dancing on the edge of the Politics Joe Pisscast.

Did Ollie out himself as a Hindu nationalist?

To me, it sort of looks like Oliver Dowden is mouthing along with Sunak. As if he wrote the question himself, perhaps? 44:06

Complete self-indulgent bollocks. 22 minutes I'll never get back. And I so wanted to like this. Lesson learned I suppose.

Love podcasts, hate religion

hi ed.

Just the tip 😂

New nickname: Sex-Ed

Can the left please reclaim the phrase “common sense”

Don't use the word scab

Keir is pleased at the defection because in his mind it proves his true conservatives mantra now being labours domain.

Which side of the house is the Tory side?

Wee Mikey Gove needs back on the front bench. Ive been at festivals and not gouched as much as he does in Westminster. You take the right approach to commentating on our politics. You guys laugh at it because it is a joke. Chancers and con artists 'running the country'. Aye into the ground......